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Post by refugeepea on Dec 1, 2016 16:54:50 GMT
I've read various articles of how Rosie justified her speculation on why she came to this conclusion. I can't condone what she said. Just because her daughter was diagnosed in September, it does not make her an expert. I learn something new everyday and I'm 7 years into this with 2 kids high and low on the spectrum. One of the reasons she stated was he doesn't smile. My HF kid with Autism is *overly* animated. He doesn't clap like others. Again, my kids are complete opposites with this as well. One does it fine, the other hates to slap his hands together. While I don't think that this was said to make Donald Trump mad, it was not right to say anything about this child who is a minor. It does not matter if he does or does not have Autism! It's one thing to say things behind closed doors out of concern. She put it on her blog for all to see. There has since been a sort of apology. I hope she learns if you know 1 kid with Autism, you know one kid with Autism.  |
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Post by myshelly on Dec 1, 2016 16:58:46 GMT
She isn't the first or only person to write that speculation. It was a pretty popular theory/rumor before she repeated it.
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Post by micheley on Dec 1, 2016 16:59:45 GMT
I think Rosie and the other arm-chair psychiatrists bringing this up should STFU. It's beyond unnecessary.
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Post by refugeepea on Dec 1, 2016 17:02:30 GMT
She isn't the first or only person to write that speculation. It was a pretty popular theory/rumor before she repeated it. It's still wrong. |
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Post by ChicagoKTS on Dec 1, 2016 17:08:59 GMT
I despise Mr. Trump to the depths of my soul but leave his child alone. What this child may or may not have is no one's business.
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Post by lesley on Dec 1, 2016 17:10:08 GMT
I've read various articles of how Rosie justified her speculation on why she came to this conclusion. I can't condone what she said. Just because her daughter was diagnosed in September, it does not make her an expert. I learn something new everyday and I'm 7 years into this with 2 kids high and low on the spectrum. One of the reasons she stated was he doesn't smile. My HF kid with Autism is *overly* animated. He doesn't clap like others. Again, my kids are complete opposites with this as well. One does it fine, the other hates to slap his hands together. While I don't think that this was said to make Donald Trump mad, it was not right to say anything about this child who is a minor. It does not matter if he does or does not have Autism! It's one thing to say things behind closed doors out of concern. She put it on her blog for all to see. There has since been a sort of apology. I hope she learns if you know 1 kid with Autism, you know one kid with Autism. I agree so much with this. And I also think, so what if he is on the spectrum? He's just one of millions of others who are, it's not a huge deal, or anything to be ashamed of or embarrassed about. It just means he's wired up differently. TBH, given his father's attitudes, I hope for his sake he isn't autistic. I can't imagine his dad being particularly compassionate or understanding towards him. |
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 1, 2016 17:11:50 GMT
It doesn't matter is he does or doesn't. It has nothing to do with her. It just sounds like she is trying to get back at Trump for being so hideous to her.
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Post by myshelly on Dec 1, 2016 17:17:56 GMT
She isn't the first or only person to write that speculation. It was a pretty popular theory/rumor before she repeated it. It's still wrong. I don't think it's ok to talk about a kid just because their parent chooses to be in the public eye. However, when people talk about this as a possible context/explanation for things Trump has said or believes, I think it becomes relevant in terms of how it influences and frames his beliefs and policies. It's a fine line and I'm not necessarily saying Rosie was on the right side of it (I didn't read her post), but there are valid reasons for talking about it. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Dec 1, 2016 17:20:44 GMT
She isn't the first or only person to write that speculation. It was a pretty popular theory/rumor before she repeated it. ^^^ that. The video she posted was made by someone else, not by her. She said what she did so that if it was true, it might be a great opportunity to raise awareness and to tie in with Melania's anti-bullying campaign to help stop bullying of kids with autism just for being 'different.' (if I recall the article I saw correctly.)
it's not like she was commenting on how ugly he was, or that he looked stupid, or anything like that- while I agree that a candidate's family shouldn't be raked over the coals for stuff like that, this wasn't like that. (And if people didn't write speculation, then no one would read US magazine, or any number of other magazines on the rack at the supermarket.)
It may not have been in 'good taste' for her to say it, but again, she wasn't the first one to do it. And last I looked, we're still free to say what we think, aren't we? (with notable exceptions prohibited by law, of course.)
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Dec 1, 2016 17:23:06 GMT
I wish kids were not brought into all this ugliness. I remember how Amy Carter was ridiculed for not being "pretty". Just let the kids be.
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Post by basketdiva on Dec 1, 2016 17:29:01 GMT
I don't think it's ok to talk about a kid just because their parent chooses to be in the public eye. However, when people talk about this as a possible context/explanation for things Trump has said or believes, I think it becomes relevant in terms of how it influences and frames his beliefs and policies. It's a fine line and I'm not necessarily saying Rosie was on the right side of it (I didn't read her post), but there are valid reasons for talking about it. I don't get this at all. Even it is true about Barron, how does it influence Trump's position on immigration, taxes, etc.? |
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Post by oh yvonne on Dec 1, 2016 17:32:45 GMT
This was not a big popular rumor at all until Rosie decided to share that video someone made. I read the man who made it feels really bad about it now, because it blew up after she shared it.
It was a stupid, impulsive and mean thing to do and Rosie is just as awful as DT is. She is such a repulsive human being.
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Post by not2peased on Dec 1, 2016 17:37:09 GMT
I can't stand Trump but still thought Rosie was WAY out of line with her comments.
kids should stay out of it, and "outting" someone for a medical issue, orientation, etc isn't appropriate, no matter how "well meaning" the person thought they were
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Post by anniebygaslight on Dec 1, 2016 17:38:25 GMT
I think Rosie and the other arm-chair psychiatrists bringing this up should STFU. It's beyond unnecessary.  exactly. |
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Post by papersilly on Dec 1, 2016 17:42:25 GMT
unfortunately, this might become one of those "you can't put the horse back in the barn" rumors. it's out there and even if it isn't true, it will just be out there. Barron will become a teenager while his father is in office and the press may capture him doing things that are typical teen but some people will misuse that to perpetuate the rumor again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 17:45:21 GMT
I do understand about taking the opportunity to raise awareness. But again...that is for the Trumps to decide to do if it turns out Barron indeed has autism. Not for anyone else to use Barron as the poster child. ITA with this! Why didn't Rosie use her own child to raise awareness? Why bring a child she doesn't even know personally into it? Her lame excuse about concern and awareness are unacceptable. |
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Post by gar on Dec 1, 2016 17:48:09 GMT
I think I read this morning that Mrs Trump is suing over it? Wish I could remember where I saw that.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 17:49:23 GMT
Rosie was wrong to say anything.
True or no, this is an opportunity for the trumps to help/lead the cause! They can do so much to help find a cure.
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 1, 2016 17:50:44 GMT
I can't stand Trump but still thought Rosie was WAY out of line with her comments. kids should stay out of it, and "outting" someone for a medical issue, orientation, etc isn't appropriate, no matter how "well meaning" the person thought they were I agree. The only time a special need the kid may or may not have should be discussed in public is when his mother is the one doing the talking. Although it would certainly be a great cause/platform for the future first lady to address (whether her son has it or not), that is for her to decide & no one else. The only comment I have about him is that he's a nice-looking young man. |
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 1, 2016 17:52:27 GMT
I think I read this morning that Mrs Trump is suing over it? Wish I could remember where I saw that..... I usually roll my eyes about the whole litigation thing, but in this case I would support her decision to do so. |
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Post by gar on Dec 1, 2016 17:54:11 GMT
I think I read this morning that Mrs Trump is suing over it? Wish I could remember where I saw that..... I usually roll my eyes about the whole litigation thing, but in this case I would support her decision to do so. But who will she sue if it's been a fairly wide spread 'discussion'? |
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Post by myshelly on Dec 1, 2016 17:55:40 GMT
I don't think it's ok to talk about a kid just because their parent chooses to be in the public eye. However, when people talk about this as a possible context/explanation for things Trump has said or believes, I think it becomes relevant in terms of how it influences and frames his beliefs and policies. It's a fine line and I'm not necessarily saying Rosie was on the right side of it (I didn't read her post), but there are valid reasons for talking about it. I don't get this at all. Even it is true about Barron, how does it influence Trump's position on immigration, taxes, etc.? It doesn't. That's not what people are talking about (which I would think kind of obvious); people are talking about it in regards to policies it does influence. People are talking about it in response to statements he has made on vaccines, his position on mandatory vaccine policies, his positions on healthcare. |
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Post by ntsf on Dec 1, 2016 17:58:25 GMT
just reminding people.. autism is not a disease.. to be "cured".. autism is a developmental disability.. a difference in the brain. and other things.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:15:41 GMT
I usually roll my eyes about the whole litigation thing, but in this case I would support her decision to do so. But who will she sue if it's been a fairly wide spread 'discussion'? I think she threatened to sue the man that made the video originally if he didn't take it down. He posted it on You tube and Rosie tweeted it. |
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Post by lisae on Dec 1, 2016 18:25:00 GMT
Trump's 3 oldest children have been front and center in this campaign and now the transition team. They are fair game, but the little boy is not. I don't care if she were a doctor who specialized in the autism, it would not be appropriate for her or anyone to speculate about him publicly.
I like Rosie fine as an actress but shooting off her mouth like this will continue to make her a target.
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Post by schizo319 on Dec 1, 2016 18:25:34 GMT
Good Lord. I'm not sure which of the two I dislike the most (RO or DT). She had no business commenting on the mental status of anyone else's child. Given her past issues with trump, it comes across every bit as petty and vindictive as everything that comes out of the his foul mouth. I thought they both behaved like children years ago during their first spat and it appears nothing has changed. Frankly, I think they're exactly alike (loud, crass, attention-seeking, self-serving, egotistical, obnoxious, etc.) - that's why they can't stand each other.
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Post by jenis40 on Dec 1, 2016 18:31:52 GMT
This is not cool at all. I dislike Trump immensely but this is beyond the pale. I had some measure of sympathy for O'Donnell due to his heinous attacks but that has completely dissipated. Kids are off limits period.
This does nothing to further autism awareness and if anything makes it seem like it should be something to be ashamed of. No matter how nicely she phrased her speculation, she was obviously using it as a weapon.
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Post by jenis40 on Dec 1, 2016 18:32:10 GMT
Double post
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Post by annabella on Dec 1, 2016 18:35:52 GMT
I was really shocked Rosie went this low. It's clear retaliation for everything he did to her and she used a kid to do so. To me he just looked tired in all those clips. I think Melania suing Rosie is ridiculous, they sue for everything. Donald is still suing the two restaurants that pulled out of his hotel in DC last year because they didn't want to be affiliated with him after his Mexican comments. However I do wonder if the speculation is true, if this is the real reason why Melania doesn't want to take him out of school mid-year?
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Post by scrappyesq on Dec 1, 2016 18:37:36 GMT
As much as I hate Trump she needs to STFU. Leave the kids out of it.
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exactly.
