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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 12, 2014 18:40:13 GMT
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 12, 2014 18:51:39 GMT
I'm not exactly against the medical use (or even recreational use) of marijuana, but this is just ridiculous. There are no reliable studies to show the effects of breast milk laced with weed. And I don't buy "Your body automatically kind of filters it.” either.
"Kind of" doesn't give me a whole lot of reassurance.
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Post by marianne on Aug 12, 2014 18:58:42 GMT
I'm not exactly against the medical use (or even recreational use) of marijuana, but this is just ridiculous. There are no reliable studies to show the effects of breast milk laced with weed. And I don't buy "Your body automatically kind of filters it.” either. "Kind of" doesn't give me a whole lot of reassurance. note: bold mine on quoted article comment Poppycock! If that were the case, why do breastfeeding mothers have to watch what they eat re: gassy foods, etc.? Because it gets into the baby's sytems via mommy's milk, you moron! God save us from idiots who rationalize their stupid behavior!
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 12, 2014 18:59:04 GMT
Crazy...
Another one here in Colorado that just gets to me. Now the state is starting a campaign for teens on not to smoke pot. So Colorado passes the right to smoke pot, but now starting this campaign for teens that is it bad for you. Call the kettle black? Oye. Ever since Colorado made pot smoking legal, it is just a mess all over the place. (According to my police friend, he says it is SO much more worse that it was before it was legal..)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 19:02:20 GMT
Crazy... Another one here in Colorado that just gets to me. Now the state is starting a campaign for teens on not to smoke pot. So Colorado passes the right to smoke pot, but now starting this campaign for teens that is it bad for you. Call the kettle black? Oye. Ever since Colorado made pot smoking legal, it is just a mess all over the place. (According to my police friend, he says it is SO much more worse that it was before it was legal..) Is that any different than smoking being illegal, and providing gruesome warnings on the packaging and large advertising campaigns about how bad it is for you? Or the dangers of alcohol?
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Post by loco coco on Aug 12, 2014 19:05:54 GMT
Crazy... Another one here in Colorado that just gets to me. Now the state is starting a campaign for teens on not to smoke pot. So Colorado passes the right to smoke pot, but now starting this campaign for teens that is it bad for you. Call the kettle black? Oye. Ever since Colorado made pot smoking legal, it is just a mess all over the place. (According to my police friend, he says it is SO much more worse that it was before it was legal..) how is that any different from cigarettes? both have age limits to buy and you see dangerous cigarette warnings targeted to kids all the time (thankfully)
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Post by alibama on Aug 12, 2014 19:21:04 GMT
People are unreal.
A few years ago the city was redesigning a road, the guys were out there with the huge drills and the newspaper was interviewing people about it. (It really is a stupid design but that is beside the point). Anyway this very pregnant lady is out there giving the guys heck about the drilling noise causing damage to her unborn baby, she was smoking a cigarette while doing it. DUH. STUPID. That one made the national news.
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Post by rumplesnat on Aug 12, 2014 19:23:23 GMT
There are so many things that can go wrong during a pregnancy that are out of our hands, I just can't wrap my head around doing something voluntarily that may increase the risk.
She smokes weed during her pregnancy and the baby is born 2 months early. Coincidence?
Completely not worth the risk.
You're anxious and nauseous? You're pregnant. So am I. I'm anxious and nauseous. Suck it up.
ETA: I was a pack and a half a day smoker (cigarette) 15 years ago up until the day before I found out I was pregnant with my son. The moment I found out, I quit cold turkey.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 12, 2014 19:29:10 GMT
I'm not against the use of marijuana either, but jeez, some things you just don't do when you're pregnant. My cousins cousin (so on her other family's side) did meth while pregnant and had a baby born with a whole host of medical problems, addicted to meth. And they took the baby away. My cousin's parents are now that baby's foster family and I tell you that baby will never live a normal life. I don't see this as any different. You just don't engage in risky behavior when you are pregnant and nursing.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 12, 2014 20:03:44 GMT
Crazy... Another one here in Colorado that just gets to me. Now the state is starting a campaign for teens on not to smoke pot. So Colorado passes the right to smoke pot, but now starting this campaign for teens that is it bad for you. Call the kettle black? Oye. Ever since Colorado made pot smoking legal, it is just a mess all over the place. (According to my police friend, he says it is SO much more worse that it was before it was legal..) It's no different than campaigns that attempt to deter children from using tobacco and alcohol, two other substances that are legal for adults but not for minors. Marijuana is actually less deadly than alcohol and tobacco.
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Post by perumbula on Aug 12, 2014 20:11:03 GMT
You have to wonder if the fact that her daughter was two months premature had anything to do with marijuana smoking. That's really premature and if her mother was smoking mj the entire pregnancy, it couldn't have had a good effect on her baby.
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Post by freebird on Aug 12, 2014 20:51:59 GMT
What an idiot. Because smoking an unfiltered joint is obviously better than smoking a filtered cigarette. (which also calms people).
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Post by Erica on Aug 12, 2014 20:58:44 GMT
This reminds me of when I was pregnant. I was extremly depressed during the beginning of my pregnancy. My ob wanted to prescribe me prozac. I refused. He said it wouldn't hurt the baby. I couldn't and wouldn't take that chance.
It seems there are some women who have that nurturing and protective sense early on. And there are some women who are selfish and stupid and do what they want rather than do what is best for the baby.
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Post by bsn22 on Aug 12, 2014 21:06:31 GMT
I am surprised CPS isn't involved as well. Is there anything they can use to screen the breast milk similar to when you drink alcohol? I think there are a few states that consider it assault to use drugs while pregnant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 21:07:35 GMT
This reminds me of when I was pregnant. I was extremly depressed during the beginning of my pregnancy. My ob wanted to prescribe me prozac. I refused. He said it wouldn't hurt the baby. I couldn't and wouldn't take that chance. It seems there are some women who have that nurturing and protective sense early on. And there are some women who are selfish and stupid and do what they want rather than do what is best for the baby. You do know plenty of women have no choice but to take antidepressants even while pregnant right? That doesn't make them selfish or stupid.
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Post by eebud on Aug 12, 2014 21:08:45 GMT
Crazy... Another one here in Colorado that just gets to me. Now the state is starting a campaign for teens on not to smoke pot. So Colorado passes the right to smoke pot, but now starting this campaign for teens that is it bad for you. Call the kettle black? Oye. Ever since Colorado made pot smoking legal, it is just a mess all over the place. (According to my police friend, he says it is SO much more worse that it was before it was legal..) I hope the state is making enough in tax revenue to pay for the no smoking campaign.
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Post by Erica on Aug 12, 2014 21:50:33 GMT
This reminds me of when I was pregnant. I was extremly depressed during the beginning of my pregnancy. My ob wanted to prescribe me prozac. I refused. He said it wouldn't hurt the baby. I couldn't and wouldn't take that chance. It seems there are some women who have that nurturing and protective sense early on. And there are some women who are selfish and stupid and do what they want rather than do what is best for the baby. You do know plenty of women have no choice but to take antidepressants even while pregnant right? That doesn't make them selfish or stupid. I wasnt talking about taking antidepressants. I was referring to smoking pot. And that does make them selfish and stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 21:56:41 GMT
You do know plenty of women have no choice but to take antidepressants even while pregnant right? That doesn't make them selfish or stupid. I wasnt talking about taking antidepressants. I was referring to smoking pot. And that does make them selfish and stupid. Um okay. You were the one that brought antidepressants into it so it looked like you were making that connection.
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 12, 2014 22:04:02 GMT
Well one huge difference is smoking or drinking has never been illegal (well drinking for the most part..). So we make pot smoking legal, then put out a campaign saying it is bad for you. That just doesn't make sense.
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 12, 2014 22:05:32 GMT
Well one huge difference is smoking has never been illegal. So we make pot smoking legal, then put out a campaign saying it is bad for you. That just doesn't make sense. Alcohol prohibition didn't work! There are warnings on all alcoholic beverages.
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Post by Erica on Aug 12, 2014 22:08:15 GMT
I wasnt talking about taking antidepressants. I was referring to smoking pot. And that does make them selfish and stupid. Um okay. You were the one that brought antidepressants into it so it looked like you were making that connection. Yeah, I shouldn't have done thst. I guess what I was trying to say was that when a women becomes pregnant they get this protective feeling and wouldn't do anything to hurt the baby (like my refusal to take prozac, my ob strongly suggested taking it, but I refused because I didn't know for sure it wouldn't hurt the baby.) And then you hear a story about women smoking pot. She was just doing what she wanted, not what was best for the baby. I'm sorry for the lame explanation I gave.
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 12, 2014 22:09:13 GMT
Well to me it just doesn't make sense. On one hand, sure go ahead, it's better for you than smoking and drinking... but then turn around and then say 'nooo. wait, smoking pot is also bad. What kind of message is that to kids? I am not saying cigarettes is not also bad, but I am not debating that.. I am debating pot smoking and the mess it has created here in Colorado. Just my one unpopular opinion.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 12, 2014 22:12:58 GMT
Well one huge difference is smoking or drinking has never been illegal (well drinking for the most part..). So we make pot smoking legal, then put out a campaign saying it is bad for you. That just doesn't make sense. Um....drinking was illegal in the US for many years. Have you never heard of Prohibition?
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 12, 2014 22:28:32 GMT
Well one huge difference is smoking or drinking has never been illegal (well drinking for the most part..). So we make pot smoking legal, then put out a campaign saying it is bad for you. That just doesn't make sense. Um....drinking was illegal in the US for many years. Have you never heard of Prohibition? I did say above I said 'for the most part'.. Yes I have heard of Prohibition, thanks for pointing that out.
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Post by *Scrapper*Stamper* on Aug 12, 2014 23:18:07 GMT
I have issues with the fact that not one ailment she lists should EVER need marijuana. Sorry there are prescriptions that will treat better than a "street drug" does not fly with me. Actually pisses me off and I think she should lose custody of that child - JMHO
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Post by Zee on Aug 12, 2014 23:47:08 GMT
Well to me it just doesn't make sense. On one hand, sure go ahead, it's better for you than smoking and drinking... but then turn around and then say 'nooo. wait, smoking pot is also bad. What kind of message is that to kids? I am not saying cigarettes is not also bad, but I am not debating that.. I am debating pot smoking and the mess it has created here in Colorado. Just my one unpopular opinion. What mess has it created? All I ever hear about is all the $$ being made. I have yet to hear any serious negatives. I'm asking sincerely.
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 13, 2014 0:46:17 GMT
This reminds me of when I was pregnant. I was extremly depressed during the beginning of my pregnancy. My ob wanted to prescribe me prozac. I refused. He said it wouldn't hurt the baby. I couldn't and wouldn't take that chance. It seems there are some women who have that nurturing and protective sense early on. And there are some women who are selfish and stupid and do what they want rather than do what is best for the baby. Taking antidepressants while pregnant doesn't make a woman selfish and/or stupid nor does it mean they aren't nurturing or protective. I would think the highly publicized death of a huge star because of depression would temper this kind of attitude.
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 13, 2014 0:52:21 GMT
Well to me it just doesn't make sense. On one hand, sure go ahead, it's better for you than smoking and drinking... but then turn around and then say 'nooo. wait, smoking pot is also bad. What kind of message is that to kids? I am not saying cigarettes is not also bad, but I am not debating that.. I am debating pot smoking and the mess it has created here in Colorado. Just my one unpopular opinion. I'm with the others - while none of those things are good for any one person in large amounts, the fact of the matter is smoking (cigs or pot) and drinking are legal for adults. It doesn't mean we shouldn't have campaigns to try to get kids to understand the dangers. I'm not sure I understand your argument at all. I think that when you look at the tax revenue that Colorado has received in the past almost 8 months and offset that against the "mess" you talk about. I've done some googling and while there are articles out there - they are from groups that were originally, and still are, opposed to legalization in Colorado. I live in Washington - in the first month of legalization they've sold almost $4Million in legal pot. It's a booming business and a huge tax generator. While pot isn't for me, it is for many people, and as long as they are legal about, as with alcohol, it's no skin off my nose!
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Post by Erica on Aug 13, 2014 1:11:11 GMT
Well to me it just doesn't make sense. On one hand, sure go ahead, it's better for you than smoking and drinking... but then turn around and then say 'nooo. wait, smoking pot is also bad. What kind of message is that to kids? I am not saying cigarettes is not also bad, but I am not debating that.. I am debating pot smoking and the mess it has created here in Colorado. Just my one unpopular opinion. I'm with the others - while none of those things are good for any one person in large amounts, the fact of the matter is smoking (cigs or pot) and drinking are legal for adults. It doesn't mean we shouldn't have campaigns to try to get kids to understand the dangers. I'm not sure I understand your argument at all. I think that when you look at the tax revenue that Colorado has received in the past almost 8 months and offset that against the "mess" you talk about. I've done some googling and while there are articles out there - they are from groups that were originally, and still are, opposed to legalization in Colorado. I live in Washington - in the first month of legalization they've sold almost $4Million in legal pot. It's a booming business and a huge tax generator. While pot isn't for me, it is for many people, and as long as they are legal about, as with alcohol, it's no skoff my nose! Seems to me you need re-read what I worote. And the second thread i posted soon after. And if a person picks smoking pot over nurturing their child then they are stupid and selfish.
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Post by seikashaven on Aug 13, 2014 1:33:43 GMT
While I personally think the mother is a selfish idiot, I do have to wonder if she would have been permitted to breast feed if she was a cigarette smoker.
If both are legal then how can she be denied if they wouldn't deny cigarette smokers?
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