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Post by lovetodigi on Aug 13, 2014 17:31:20 GMT
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 13, 2014 17:43:21 GMT
Video, please!
We lived in South Korea from 2001-2003. It was really an interesting experience. It was such a mix of modern and old world culture. I'd love to see the video.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 13, 2014 18:01:43 GMT
What did you find surprising?
I was distracted by the lack of major car traffic.
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Post by kristalina on Aug 13, 2014 18:03:40 GMT
interesting!
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Post by alibama on Aug 13, 2014 18:07:32 GMT
My son is stationed in Korea at the moment (he is Air Force). He said its not to bad, as long as the prostitues aren't around lol. He loves the food. He really liked the Scooters running around selling McDonalds. Now I said we should have that here as long as they would bring me my Ice Coffee.
Some of the pictures he shared have been beautiful.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 13, 2014 18:11:13 GMT
Ok, how do you all see this video?
Alibama, is your son stationed in South Korea? It's much different there. The country is much more humane to it's people and there is consumerism similar to what we have in the states. And I never saw a prostitute once. I must have lived a sheltered life!
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 13, 2014 18:12:29 GMT
alibama...your son is in south korea north korea is an entirely different country
with a completely different government - a very oppressive one at that
if you already knew that..i apologize
but from the sound of your post....
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Post by lovetodigi on Aug 13, 2014 18:43:18 GMT
Video, please! We lived in South Korea from 2001-2003. It was really an interesting experience. It was such a mix of modern and old world culture. I'd love to see the video. The video is the photo at the top of the webpage in the link. Just look for the arrow at the bottom left of the picture. It is really interesting. I had no idea that North Korea had so much. The city in the video looks like it could be a city here.
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Post by marianne on Aug 13, 2014 18:43:30 GMT
I'm dumbstruck at how clean it is! I mean, there's not a piece of paper anywhere... anywhere! Amazingly clean for a city.
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Post by lucki on Aug 13, 2014 18:49:47 GMT
I can't get over how clean it is either. Plus the fact that there aren't advertising billboards all over the place!
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Post by myshelly on Aug 13, 2014 18:53:17 GMT
My son is stationed in Korea at the moment (he is Air Force). He said its not to bad, as long as the prostitues aren't around lol. He loves the food. He really liked the Scooters running around selling McDonalds. Now I said we should have that here as long as they would bring me my Ice Coffee. Some of the pictures he shared have been beautiful. There is no country called Korea. North Korea is a country. South Korea is a country. They are very, very different.
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Post by gar on Aug 13, 2014 18:54:26 GMT
Very interesting.
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Post by snappinsami on Aug 13, 2014 18:59:01 GMT
Wow... That was really interesting. There's definitely a level of fascination with North Korea because of how secluded they have been. The lack of advertising is interesting (as the writer pointed out, it just shows how saturated with it the rest of the world is). So very clean, and it seemed so uncrowded. Not a lot of traffic, and even the foot traffic didn't seem overwhelming.
Thank you for sharing that!
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Post by Peamac on Aug 13, 2014 18:59:13 GMT
I can't get over how clean it is either. Plus the fact that there aren't advertising billboards all over the place! The people don't have much money to spend on non-necessities, so there wouldn't be much to advertise.
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Post by Pamelou on Aug 13, 2014 19:00:04 GMT
I watched National Geographic's Inside North Korea on Netflix. It was interesting and worth watching.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 13, 2014 19:09:33 GMT
There is more than one "North Korea" -- there's the one that the government wants you to see and then there's the one behind the scenes. There are some fascinating videos on YouTube taken with hidden cameras, by journalists who went in as tourists and then took videos. There are also some that I've seen that were taken by North Koreans and then smuggled out of the country. Videos of the countryside and how people live there, and the horrible poverty and hunger that exists. The journalists aka tourists have said that the big city (cities? not sure where they traveled) are almost like model homes -- for show only, and for the families of the elite.
The propaganda and the reality are two different things.
The government keeps a grip by outlawing all news, internet, phone service, etc., except what they wish the people to have. I have a lot of South Korean friends from seminary (it was a Methodist seminary and Methodism is big in South Korea) and their dream is to see something happen like what we saw when the Berlin Wall fell.
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Post by Peamac on Aug 13, 2014 19:25:17 GMT
There is more than one "North Korea" -- there's the one that the government wants you to see and then there's the one behind the scenes. There are some fascinating videos on YouTube taken with hidden cameras, by journalists who went in as tourists and then took videos. There are also some that I've seen that were taken by North Koreans and then smuggled out of the country. Videos of the countryside and how people live there, and the horrible poverty and hunger that exists. The journalists aka tourists have said that the big city (cities? not sure where they traveled) are almost like model homes -- for show only, and for the families of the elite. The propaganda and the reality are two different things. The government keeps a grip by outlawing all news, internet, phone service, etc., except what they wish the people to have. I have a lot of South Korean friends from seminary (it was a Methodist seminary and Methodism is big in South Korea) and their dream is to see something happen like what we saw when the Berlin Wall fell.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 13, 2014 19:36:37 GMT
And I never saw a prostitute once. I must have lived a sheltered life! Wow - We saw them all.the.time. when I lived there! The street in Dongducheon we had to walk down to get home was full of clubs and prostitutes. The old women would stand outside on the street yelling at men to try to get them to come inside the whorehouses. There was even an area downtown called the Chicken Farm. It looked like stores with window displays, except the prostitutes lived in the window displays and men would browse window to window until they found a girl they liked. The man would go inside and the girl would close the curtains. It was crazy.
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Post by moosedogtoo on Aug 13, 2014 19:42:42 GMT
I'm sure the government forced them to edit out anything that wasn't completely complimentary.
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Post by birukitty on Aug 13, 2014 19:55:36 GMT
There is more than one "North Korea" -- there's the one that the government wants you to see and then there's the one behind the scenes. There are some fascinating videos on YouTube taken with hidden cameras, by journalists who went in as tourists and then took videos. There are also some that I've seen that were taken by North Koreans and then smuggled out of the country. Videos of the countryside and how people live there, and the horrible poverty and hunger that exists. The journalists aka tourists have said that the big city (cities? not sure where they traveled) are almost like model homes -- for show only, and for the families of the elite. The propaganda and the reality are two different things. The government keeps a grip by outlawing all news, internet, phone service, etc., except what they wish the people to have. I have a lot of South Korean friends from seminary (it was a Methodist seminary and Methodism is big in South Korea) and their dream is to see something happen like what we saw when the Berlin Wall fell. Exactly. This film makes North Korea look good. It reminds me of the part in the movie "Schindler's List" where they showed Nazi's making the propaganda film to show how nice, fair and well treated the Jews were inside the concentration camps. They made a "coffee shop" and a playground for the kids and a garden and even showed the prisoners playing soccer or some sport. This was an actual film (of course there were tons made), but it was nicely put into "Schindler's List" where he is shown the film. The point being what is actually going on in North Korea is far worse I'm sure than what is being shown watching those kids with their skates at the park. They just don't want the rest of the world to know. Debbie in MD.
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Post by ~KellyAnn~ on Aug 13, 2014 20:03:27 GMT
Propaganda at its finest.
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Post by alibama on Aug 13, 2014 20:04:19 GMT
Excuse the typo I thought she said the Video was South Korea. I watched the video but I didn't have the sound on. My son had been told many bad things about South Korea before he went but like I said before he thought it okay. He loves the food, he said he has to make himself eat at the commissary because he could easily spend it all trying the different foods. He has been surprised and his enjoying his time there so far.
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Post by georgiabeachbum on Aug 13, 2014 20:18:36 GMT
The only people I smiling were a couple of kids at the skate park.
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Post by lovetodigi on Aug 13, 2014 20:29:32 GMT
The only people I smiling were a couple of kids at the skate park. I can't imagine there would be a lot to be happy about there and they might even be arrested for suspicious behavior if they were caught smiling in public. So sad for the people that have no choice but to live under that ruler. Welcome to the board, georgiabeachbum. Hope to keep seeing you around.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 13, 2014 20:33:35 GMT
I was distracted by the lack of major car traffic. Lack of bicycle traffic as well. A few years ago I read the book: The Aquariums of Pyongyang: Ten Years in the North Korean Gulag - about a family that was sent to the concentration camps for 10 years and what life was like there. Even life before and after the camp was pretty bad. Boy, do we have it good here!
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 13, 2014 20:41:53 GMT
And I never saw a prostitute once. I must have lived a sheltered life! Wow - We saw them all.the.time. when I lived there! The street in Dongducheon we had to walk down to get home was full of clubs and prostitutes. The old women would stand outside on the street yelling at men to try to get them to come inside the whorehouses. There was even an area downtown called the Chicken Farm. It looked like stores with window displays, except the prostitutes lived in the window displays and men would browse window to window until they found a girl they liked. The man would go inside and the girl would close the curtains. It was crazy. Reminds me of when I first started dating my ldh. I lived in Houston near a major street. He said something about all the hookers and I had.no.idea who he was referring to. I had never noticed them, so as we drove down the street, he pointed........ there, there, there, there, there, there, there..... It was as if they were appearing out of a great fog or something.
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Post by Jili on Aug 13, 2014 20:46:44 GMT
There is more than one "North Korea" -- there's the one that the government wants you to see and then there's the one behind the scenes. There are some fascinating videos on YouTube taken with hidden cameras, by journalists who went in as tourists and then took videos. There are also some that I've seen that were taken by North Koreans and then smuggled out of the country. Videos of the countryside and how people live there, and the horrible poverty and hunger that exists. The journalists aka tourists have said that the big city (cities? not sure where they traveled) are almost like model homes -- for show only, and for the families of the elite. The propaganda and the reality are two different things. The government keeps a grip by outlawing all news, internet, phone service, etc., except what they wish the people to have. I have a lot of South Korean friends from seminary (it was a Methodist seminary and Methodism is big in South Korea) and their dream is to see something happen like what we saw when the Berlin Wall fell. Exactly! I've read several essays about daily life in N. Korea and seen these types of photos before. Pyongyang certainly does seem spacious and clean. I agree that the government there is very careful about what kind of image is portrayed of the city. There is no traffic because there are very few cars. Traffic is directed by people (women) because of the constant power outages. The city is for the wealthy and elite to experience. It truly reminds me of the Capitol in the Hunger Games. The daily lives of those outside the city are nothing but grim.
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Post by annabella on Aug 13, 2014 20:50:13 GMT
They could have cleaned the train station before filming the video. Or like DC eating is not allowed on the subway so there's minimal trash. Also there's guards at the entrance to subway so they are probably very strict on littering with harsh punishments just like Singapore doesn't allow chewing gum. I noticed they hid away all the homeless children.
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Post by I-95 on Aug 13, 2014 20:50:55 GMT
Wow. I've been to Sth. Korea, but that video surprised me as to how modern and CLEAN Nth. Korea is....did I mention CLEAN? How do they do that?
I was also surprised by the number of huge buildings that are lit up...if you fly anywhere near Nth Korea at night you Sth Korea lit up like a Christmas tree and Nth Korea in total darkness. How do they get the whole country to turn the lights off?
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Post by bsn22 on Aug 13, 2014 21:45:39 GMT
That's what I was thinking, too.
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