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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:09:56 GMT
Ok, so hopefully I won't have too many neurotic travel questions. We really don't travel by plane much, and never in this situation, so bear with me.
We are Canadians, living in Canada. Our originating flight is in the USA, so we are entering the country by car. Because the kids and I have NEXUS (global entry/trusted traveler) cards, we do not need passports to cross the border by vehicle.
I can't get a straight answer whether or not TSA will want passports because we're Canadian citizens. We've already legally entered the country. We don't have to go through customs and immigration for any portion of our flights. According to the TSA website, a provincial driver's license or NEXUS card are acceptable ID for them. But then I call to make sure (obviously we don't want to be turned away for our flight, so that's why I'm being slightly neurotic) and they can't give me a definite answer. We leave in under two months, so if we need to get passports, then I need to get on it.
Oh, and I got my NEXUS card with an enhanced driver's license. I don't have a passport because it was reported lost/stolen (from my van), and now I have major hoops to jump through to get it reissued. We don't fly internationally. We just go to the US by car, and this is the first time I've had a flight with just NEXUS and an enhanced license.
As a Canadian, do I have to have a passport to board a domestic flight within the US?
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Post by gar on Aug 13, 2014 23:13:58 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual.
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Post by scrapsotime on Aug 13, 2014 23:19:51 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. I don't have a passport. I've never had one. I haven't left the country (US) since I was 12. That was trip to Canada. |
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:20:06 GMT
Why? I don't fly out of my country which is the only thing I would need it for. The only other country I visit is the US, and my NEXUS card is more secure than a passport. With it, I don't even really go through inspection crossing the border. I get a nod and a wave or a "have a nice day" at most.
But, my last passport was reported lost/stolen, and now I need to see a commissioner for oaths (an attorney in practice, not just a member of the BC Law Society or I'd be golden since my gf's DH is one) have a sworn oath taken that it was in fact lost/stolen for both DS and I (they both went missing) to the tune of $100, plus go through an original application all over again for both of us. I'm looking at close to $400 for passports to be issued for the kids and I.
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:20:30 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. I don't have a passport. I've never had one. I haven't left the country (US) since I was 12. That was trip to Canada. And if you were 12, all you needed was a birth certificate.  |
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 13, 2014 23:21:49 GMT
I believe you would.
An example:
I entered France via train from Amsterdam. In order to take a train from France to London, I had to show my passport, even though I had already entered France.
Plan on having a passport, because I think you will need it.
EDIT: I see you are only traveling domestically. Now I'm not sure. Your best bet would be to call your airline and ask, or call TSA and ask.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 13, 2014 23:23:11 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. Not usual at all on this side of the Atlantic. I think only about a third of Americans have passports, and Canadians is something like half. I know many, many adults who have never traveled outside of the USA. It's a big country. |
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:25:29 GMT
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 13, 2014 23:30:07 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. Not usual at all on this side of the Atlantic. I think only about a third of Americans have passports, and Canadians is something like half. I know many, many adults who have never traveled outside of the USA. It's a big country. I'm 51 and have been to Baja and Canada all before passports were required. I have never had a passport  Dh has been all over the world but never had a passport. But all his travel with with the Navy  |
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Post by amom23 on Aug 13, 2014 23:30:24 GMT
For the simple fact that even in the US airports can vary so much in how they handle security I would say you are better off having those passports in your hand.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 13, 2014 23:33:36 GMT
I'm not sure who you're flying, but United's website reiterates the TSA standards and goes a bit further in saying if you're NOT a US or Canadian you must have your passport. It sounds like your Canadian driver's license would be sufficient. I personally would have my passport, but I'm a belts and suspenders kind of person. United |
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:35:10 GMT
I'm not sure who you're flying, but United's website reiterates the TSA standards and goes a bit further in saying if you're NOT a US or Canadian you must have your passport. It sounds like your Canadian driver's license would be sufficient. I personally would have my passport, but I'm a belts and suspenders kind of person. UnitedThanks! We're flying Alaska. |
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:39:02 GMT
Well according to Alaska they're good with non-photo govt ID like your SSN and a health club membership or credit card for US citizens, so I think an enhanced driver's license (for car and marine crossing only) and NEXUS card will most likely be fine. NEXUS means I've gone through a thorough screening by DHS and CSIS for trusted entry. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 23:43:47 GMT
You shouldn't need anything more than the ability to prove the person named on the boarding pass is the person boarding. Your NEXUS card OR your driver's license should be enough. Emphasis on SHOULD. But, knowing my luck I'd get the only guy in the airport who thinks I have to have a passport and there not be anyone around to override his decision about it.
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:47:38 GMT
You shouldn't need anything more than the ability to prove the person named on the boarding pass is the person boarding. Your NEXUS card OR your driver's license should be enough. Emphasis on SHOULD. But, knowing my luck I'd get the only guy in the airport who thinks I have to have a passport and there not be anyone around to override his decision about it. Yeah and I'll have a 6 and 4 year old flipping out excited they're going on plane AND going to Disneyland. Picture 4 year old DS (in my profile pic) "They're x-raying my cackcack (backpack)??". All at 5 in the morning.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 23:53:02 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. It is very normal in the US to not have a passport. It is a six day drive going coast to coast with no sight seeing along the way. We can do a LOT of traveling and not ever need to leave our own borders. It is only been the past few (5?) years that any kind id other than a driver's license has been needed to cross between the US and Canada or the US and Mexico. Unless planning a trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific trip there has been no need for most people to have one. Most people travel to places that requires a passport about as often as the average person in your country visits the US or Canada... a fun idea but prohibitively expensive. |
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Post by Nanner on Aug 13, 2014 23:53:27 GMT
When we connect on flights in the U.S., I have to show my passport. Granted, we are originating our flight in Canada, but we always have a connection in the U.S. when we go to Hawaii - either Denver, San Francisco or LAX. And I have to show it then.
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 13, 2014 23:55:47 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. It is very normal in the US to not have a passport. It is a six day drive going coast to coast with no sight seeing along the way. We can do a LOT of traveling and not ever need to leave our own borders. It is only been the past few (5?) years that any kind id other than a driver's license has been needed to cross between the US and Canada or the US and Mexico. Unless planning a trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific trip there has been no need for most people to have one. Most people travel to places that requires a passport about as often as the average person in your country visits the US or Canada... a fun idea but prohibitively expensive. When I got the enhanced license I told the woman at the DMV I just wanted to go to Target and Trader Joe's. I didn't want to fly to France.  Well, I would love to someday. But it's not in the cards right now. Even flying from Canada to the US is expensive. We're saving over $1000 for the 4 of us by driving across the border and flying out of WA instead of home.  |
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Post by moodyblue on Aug 14, 2014 0:03:16 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. A quick Google search shows that the state of Illinois, where I live, covers more square miles than England does - and that's just one of the 50 states. You can travel a long ways and see a lot of different climates and terrain without ever leaving the USA. And you could also go to Mexico and Canada without a passport not all that long ago. |
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Post by ihaveonly1l on Aug 14, 2014 0:09:40 GMT
Children under 18 do not need any ID to fly. We were just at the airport and I was a bit nervous with our older son. He's tall. When we walked up the TSA agent asked him how old he was. He said 16 and that was it.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 14, 2014 0:22:17 GMT
Have you called Alaska airlines? They may be the best resource for you.
Gar, I never had a passport until we moved to South Korea in 2001. I grew up in Minnesota and we frequently went into Canada with nothing more than a smile. I also traveled into Mexico as late as 2004 with just a driver's license. Even now, we only need a passport card to travel by car into Canada.
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Post by Tamhugh on Aug 14, 2014 0:49:50 GMT
GAR, I think it is just more common for Europeans to have them. Travel between countries is more similar to our travel between states in regards to distance. We have passports, but a lot of our family members and friends do not. As for the TSA, it is anyone's guess what they will require on any given day.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 14, 2014 1:03:50 GMT
I'd take a passport to avoid the hassle at the airport. It may be that NEXUS is all you need, but if you get some non savvy clerk, you will have trouble.
Isn't there a phone number you could call to make sure? (either TSA or the airline?)
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Post by melanell on Aug 14, 2014 1:10:51 GMT
I can't answer your question but I can't imagine not having a passport....have your current ones lapsed ir something like that? I'm not meaning to be rude - it just struck me as unusual. I think only about a third of Americans have passports, and Canadians is something like half. I know many, many adults who have never traveled outside of the USA. It's a big country. That makes me wonder what percentage of Americans see all 50 states. I know I definitely haven't. I would imagine the majority do not. I would like to, though. I know my father has seen all 48 contiguous states, but he did that before he had kids. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 14, 2014 1:26:49 GMT
I think only about a third of Americans have passports, and Canadians is something like half. I know many, many adults who have never traveled outside of the USA. It's a big country. That makes me wonder what percentage of Americans see all 50 states. I know I definitely haven't. I would imagine the majority do not. I would like to, though. I know my father has seen all 48 contiguous states, but he did that before he had kids. It has to be minuscule. I have one of those goofy travel apps connected to my facebook - it tells me that I've traveled to 12% of the world, and 27 different countries, I consider myself pretty well traveled. But I haven't visited all 50 states. I still have 10 to go. I need to swing through the northern part of the country - Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota and Montana are missing, along with a few Southern States. |
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Post by gloryjoy on Aug 14, 2014 2:15:57 GMT
Are you flying out of Bellingham to Disneyland?
We fly to Vegas out of Bellingham all the time but we do have passports.
What about phoning the airport in Bellingham and talking to them. I know that when we check in we have to produce our passports but I think in your case the Nexus card would work. Once you check in and clear their customs, you don't need your ID anymore.
However I would be concerned about coming home from Los Angeles.
We got our passports in 10 days so you have plenty of time if you go that route.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 14, 2014 2:20:17 GMT
That makes me wonder what percentage of Americans see all 50 states. I know I definitely haven't. I would imagine the majority do not. I would like to, though. I know my father has seen all 48 contiguous states, but he did that before he had kids. DH has been in all 50 states, but only touched down in Alaska for a medical emergency on a flight (not his emergency.). I still have 3 states to go--Michigan, Alaska, and Hawaii. Were military and drive to each new assignment, so that hits a lot of states. OP, I hope you have an answer to your question. |
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Aug 14, 2014 2:42:49 GMT
Play it safe, HAVE the passports, hand carry them. It is impossible to say what TSA would want at any given time in any given location. It is beyond screwed up. If you have them and DON'T need them, that's one thing. But NOT HAVE THEM and it turns out TSA wants them, you are so out of luck.
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Aug 14, 2014 3:23:22 GMT
Not usual at all on this side of the Atlantic. I think only about a third of Americans have passports, and Canadians is something like half. I know many, many adults who have never traveled outside of the USA. It's a big country. I'm 51 and have been to Baja and Canada all before passports were required. I have never had a passport Dh has been all over the world but never had a passport. But all his travel with with the Navy I'm 56 and my husband is 57, neither of us has had a passport. |
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 14, 2014 3:47:36 GMT
Well according to Alaska they're good with non-photo govt ID like your SSN and a health club membership or credit card for US citizens, so I think an enhanced driver's license (for car and marine crossing only) and NEXUS card will most likely be fine. NEXUS means I've gone through a thorough screening by DHS and CSIS for trusted entry. I agree completely - you should only need a government issued ID that has a matching name to the name on the ticket. No need for a passport once you're IN the country. |
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Well, I would love to someday. But it's not in the cards right now. Even flying from Canada to the US is expensive. We're saving over $1000 for the 4 of us by driving across the border and flying out of WA instead of home. 
