twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Aug 16, 2014 14:01:17 GMT
I think you need to stop thinking about it as "your" spot. Public street, public parking, the end. Sorry but the "public street, public parking, the end" is not true. Not being snarky….this is exactly how parking districts get started. Just because it is public street only gives the person the right to park there until people complain. My city just passed the parking district policy basically giving homeowners the ability to (with 60% of homeowners on board) making their PUBLIC street into a specific parking zone. This came about because the homeowners were not able to park their vehicles in front of their homes. There is also many HOAs in this area that require parking permits on the vehicles to park unless it is designated as 'visitor spot'…almost ALL are public streets. That argument might fly if there were no spots left for her to use, but that isn't the case here. She can park, she just can't park in the most convenient spot. I've lived in areas that had parking permits required for street parking, but that is usually where there would be no residential parking available if it weren't restricted.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Aug 16, 2014 14:05:18 GMT
All of you who are saying she should just deal with it, and you would would never ask someone not to park in a specific spot, and "first come first served," are you paying attention to these basic facts? 1. There is one spot that borders Rebel's house, and many many spots on two streets that border the church. 2. This church van driver (or occasional church van driver) is choosing not to park in any of the empty parking spots that directly border the church, but is choosing instead to park across the street, in the one spot in front of Rebel's house, which is less convenient for him than the empty spots he is choosing not to park in. I would never intentionally park in front of someone's house if there were multiple options available to me that were not in front of anyone's house, but were, in fact, in front of the place I intended to be. It would be a whole different story if the church side of the streets were constantly full and the van had nowhere else to park. This is not the case. He has lots of places to park, all of which are more convenient for him. Why is he choosing to park in an inconvenient spot that also inconveniences another person? I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the other spots are more convenient. Is this a large church van (like one that would be used for cargo or for transporting a youth group as opposed to minivan size)? If so, maybe this spot provides the easiest access for him to pull out of the spot. Maybe the visibility is better. Maybe street traffic is "busier" going the other direction during the times of the day when he has to leave (i.e. he is parking opposite of rush hour traffic). Distance isn't the only factor when you are considering convenience.
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Post by moodyblue on Aug 16, 2014 14:07:04 GMT
Does this church have a parking lot? If so, I'd expect him to park the car in the lot.
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Aug 16, 2014 14:14:21 GMT
I don't know if I'd say anything, but, if the street spot is open, whoever is home first would take it leaving the driveway for our second car. This is what I would suggest. Ask your DH to park on the street, especially if he gets home before you.This is my idea^^^^then when you get home, hubby could move his car to the drive-way and you could park in the street!
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Post by rebelyelle on Aug 16, 2014 14:29:14 GMT
Tough situation as everyone had said. But I agree that a friendly conversation with someone at the church might be the best way to go. I love the idea from hollymolly to present it as a safety issue. Good luck. Yeah, I think this is a good idea too. Like I said, it's mostly an annoyance. But when I either have groceries/lots of bags, or have DS with me, it gets to be a hassle. It can be a fairly busy street at certain times.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Aug 16, 2014 15:40:16 GMT
I haven't read all the replies, but since it is street parking, there's not much you can do.
I live on a street where parking is scarce. We can park five vehicles in tandem (long narrow driveway), but don't. One vehicle is always behind the gate- vintage, seldom driven. One car is parked in the driveway in front of the gate, and the third is parked on the street, generally in front of the house. It does annoy me when my neighbor who has a similar driveway arrangement parks one of the seven family vehicles in front of my house, but oh well.
Another neighbor parks his white panel van, a motor boat and its tow vehicle, and his BMW on the street, and puts his jet skis in the driveway. He also has a friend parking a broken down car on his side of the street, which he pushes back and forth every 48 hours to avoid towing. He does move his own vehicles around to avoid a tow situation.
I can't stand it, but there is nothing to do. If there is no street parking, we can squeeze two vehicles in our driveway without opening the gate. No HOA, so no limits on number of vehicles or where one may park.
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Post by picotjo on Aug 16, 2014 16:49:26 GMT
Maybe the van driver *is being considerate. If he is transporting a youth group or younger people , by parking when he is he may be leaving the closer spots for older people. Who knows? I do agree since it's a public road Op can't claim a spot.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 16, 2014 16:52:44 GMT
It's annoying, but the street *is* public. The van has as much of a right to that spot as you do.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 16, 2014 18:35:57 GMT
All of you who are saying she should just deal with it, and you would would never ask someone not to park in a specific spot, and "first come first served," are you paying attention to these basic facts? 1. There is one spot that borders Rebel's house, and many many spots on two streets that border the church. 2. This church van driver (or occasional church van driver) is choosing not to park in any of the empty parking spots that directly border the church, but is choosing instead to park across the street, in the one spot in front of Rebel's house, which is less convenient for him than the empty spots he is choosing not to park in. I would never intentionally park in front of someone's house if there were multiple options available to me that were not in front of anyone's house, but were, in fact, in front of the place I intended to be. It would be a whole different story if the church side of the streets were constantly full and the van had nowhere else to park. This is not the case. He has lots of places to park, all of which are more convenient for him. Why is he choosing to park in an inconvenient spot that also inconveniences another person? None of that matters. It is a public street with public parking. That's the end of it. Yep. I understand the facts. Still agree with scrappower. The OP doesn't own the spot. It's not hers. There's not assigned parking.
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Post by sues on Aug 16, 2014 19:44:57 GMT
I would never ask someone else not to park in a certain "spot" on a public roadway. Ever. I would find anyone that asked me to rude. It's a public street, you park in the closest available spot. Right. And it seems that you didn't read much of the thread beyond the original post. There are many more "closest available spots" to the church than the spot in front of Rebel's house. And that's all Rebel wants to do, park in the "closest available spot" to her house. ITA. It's not about ownership over a public street. It's about being considerate to the homeowners on a residential street. When we moved here, we really didn't think much about the parking situation because it seemed like everyone had garages and driveways they used. People with more cars used the street too- but there's a lot of street parking, so no big deal. One day our next door neighbor stopped DH and asked him to stop parking his car on the far side of our driveway. (It was not in front of his house or our house. It fell between the two.) He told him it was his only street parking option for his work van. Then he showed DH something we hadn't realized; the layout of our street left one space for this neighbor, and no front-of-the-house street spaces at all for the next two. Because of a fire hydrant, the mailboxes, and our street ending in a sort of a half culdesac- these people really only had their driveway. Of course - it didn't affect us, so we never noticed. Then we were totally mortified! We must have seemed really inconsiderate. DH apologized- and we never parked there again. Sure, it's a public street- but why on earth would we choose to be inconsiderate? I think you should not regularly park in front of someone else's house if it can be avoided. We're used to seeing a flood of strange cars on the street during the summer and during football season- but guest parking is different. That's the way it goes - public street, and all. But when someone is parking in front of another home regularly when they could be parking in front of their own house- it's just rude. In the case of the OP- the church has a parking lot. They should be using it. I'd make a call to the office, explain the situation and nicely ask them not to park the van in front of your house. They will probably understand and agree. Maybe- like us, they don't realize how they are inconveniencing you. If they do not agree- sadly, there's nothing else you can do. It would be a surprising response from a church, though.
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Aug 16, 2014 20:00:35 GMT
We have a similar scenario. Everyone on our street has at least a 2 car driveway, so parking for families who live here isn't typically an issue. However, from our driveway all the way past our neighbor's house is no parking because another street T's in there. This leaves my neighbor absolutely no parking in front of their house, and a limited amount for us. A few months ago, my neighbor on the other side had 3 cars they were juggling, so every morning he would park one on the street. Instead of putting it in front of his house, he would put it in the space between our houses. This left less room for us, who already have less than most people. Bugged me. I didn't say anything because it was only for a few weeks and wasn't worth it.
However, if I had the op's situation where it was happening all the time, the other person had another place to park and I had a difficult driveway, I would definitely nicely ask them to park elsewhere.
Sure, its a public street but like sues said, it doesn't kill anyone to be considerate.
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Post by I-95 on Aug 16, 2014 20:18:02 GMT
I suppose fire bombing it is out of the question?
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 16, 2014 20:21:32 GMT
I suppose fire bombing it is out of the question? Yes, I think Rebel and her dh wouldn't want to be teaching that sort of response to their ds. hehe
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 16, 2014 20:30:00 GMT
I think you need to stop thinking about it as "your" spot. Public street, public parking, the end. I've never hard of shared driveways before - how very interesting. Here it is not uncommon to have huge driveways. My parents' driveway parks 5 cars. My grandpa's driveway parks 6 cars. Mine only parks 2 and feels small, lol, but it's all mine. I think it depends on the street. For many residential streets, it's not unreasonable to think of the spot in front of your home as your spot. There's no good reason for anyone else to park there other than occasionally. I might mention to the church that it's safer for you to park in front of your home AND for the van to park in front of the church so none of you need to cross the road more often than necessary. Oops - I must have missed a page. Hollymolly already said that. Good idea to bring cookies with you!
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Post by Olan on Aug 16, 2014 20:39:22 GMT
In my area we have zoned parking. I live between two metro stops in a pretty up and coming area and always have trouble finding a parking spot on my block let alone right in front. Thats city life for you. Public street equals public parking but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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Post by utmr on Aug 16, 2014 21:10:37 GMT
It's pretty insufferably rude to park in front of someone else's house without permission, barring some unusual situation (party, etc).
Personally I would tell the church to move. Once. The second time I would tell then by certified return receipt letter. The third time I would have them towed. And towed again until they figured it out. They are a business and need to park in their own lot and not repeatedly inconvenience the neighborhood.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 21:14:56 GMT
It's pretty insufferably rude to park in front of someone else's house without permission, barring some unusual situation (party, etc). Personally I would tell the church to move. Once. The second time I would tell then by certified return receipt letter. The third time I would have them towed. And towed again until they figured it out. They are a business and need to park in their own lot and not repeatedly inconvenience the neighborhood. No one is going to tow a vehicle from a public parking space.
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Post by smokeynspike on Aug 17, 2014 0:31:09 GMT
I think you need to just deal with it, as much as it would annoy me to not park in front of my house.
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Post by Nanner on Aug 17, 2014 1:17:13 GMT
We also live across the street from a church, and also share a driveway with our neighbour. We park one of our vehicles in the driveway and the other in front of our house, if it's available. If it's not, we just park across the street. Yes, of course I prefer to park in front of our house, but really, walking across the street takes about a minute or less, no big deal. It doesn't bother me even the tiniest bit.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 17, 2014 1:53:20 GMT
I think you need to stop thinking about it as "your" spot. Public street, public parking, the end. Sorry but the "public street, public parking, the end" is not true. Not being snarky….this is exactly how parking districts get started. Just because it is public street only gives the person the right to park there until people complain. My city just passed the parking district policy basically giving homeowners the ability to (with 60% of homeowners on board) making their PUBLIC street into a specific parking zone. This came about because the homeowners were not able to park their vehicles in front of their homes. There is also many HOAs in this area that require parking permits on the vehicles to park unless it is designated as 'visitor spot'…almost ALL are public streets. See and I find that to be crap. I'm sorry that you don't get to park right in front of your house, but if everybody did this, where would people park?
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 17, 2014 1:55:36 GMT
Public streets, yes, but residents still have some rights. Recently our neighborhood got up in arms about students from the high school parking along all the nearby streets instead of buying a parking pass. The city responded by issuing passes for residents. Now, along certain streets, you have to have a pass if you live there. Each house received 2 passes only. If I were you, since you wave at the driver, I would go chat with him one day and explain your problem nicely. I would not do that if there were still an open spot in my driveway. I sympathize, as I had my neughbor's employees from his hack money laundering business park in front of our house., leaving the front of theirs open. And they're a corner house so they've got enough street parking for 5 cats. Two would budge bumper to bumper in front of my tiny yard every damn day for years. I finally mentioned it nicely and now they hate us. But they don't park there. I am curious as to how much room 5 cats need. Do they bring their litterboxes and park them?
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Post by maryland on Aug 17, 2014 2:00:35 GMT
I would do a polite note. Maybe she or he would agree to park at the church instead. Just a thought! If they give you a hard time, I guess there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe whoever gets home first could park on the street spot if it's available. Although I am not good at backing out into a busy street either, so I would walk a distance before parking in the driveway too.
I know what an inconvenience street parking can be. When I moved into my husband's apt. I had to park on the street. He only had one spot in the parking garage so he parked there. Even when he was out of town, I wouldn't use his spot. It was a really hard spot to get into, and I don't have his fancy parking skills! I was so glad when we moved to a house and we could both park in the driveway. It was good exercise walking from a farther away spot, but it was a pain when I had lots of stuff to carry in.
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Post by Judy26 on Aug 17, 2014 2:20:33 GMT
Perhaps you could suggest that it is hard to back out of your driveway because your view is blocked when the van is there. More of a safety than convenience reason might be better received.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 17, 2014 2:36:00 GMT
A few nails pushed through cardboard and placed "nail up" in the gutter in front of your house would solve the problem.
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Post by tiggerpooh2380 on Aug 17, 2014 2:49:21 GMT
I can see the annoyance, and I would be annoyed as well.. but I would never say anything.
My DH and I bought a house at the end of March,(we have a double lot) we have a big driveway but there are houses who park on the street, there is one guy who drives a big work van and ALWAYS parks it in front of our house on the lot part, not the house part, its a pain to see to get out of the driveway, and it annoys me. It didn't take me long to realize that he actually is trying to be courteous and only park in spots where he is not blocking someone's view from their porch. By now I have gotten used to being able to back in and see to get out, and I think that its nice he doesn't want to block someone's porch or windows to see.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 17, 2014 2:50:46 GMT
It's pretty insufferably rude to park in front of someone else's house without permission, barring some unusual situation (party, etc). Personally I would tell the church to move. Once. The second time I would tell then by certified return receipt letter. The third time I would have them towed. And towed again until they figured it out. They are a business and need to park in their own lot and not repeatedly inconvenience the neighborhood. I'm trying to imagine my reaction if someone approached me in that manner over a public parking spot. If I was in a good mood, I would probably laugh it off. If you actually found a towing company stupid enough to basically steal my legally-parked car, I would be colossally pissed. To the OP, I guess you could ask, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't feel any more entitled to that spot than anyone else.
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Post by dnkmmw on Aug 17, 2014 4:09:19 GMT
It's pretty insufferably rude to park in front of someone else's house without permission, barring some unusual situation (party, etc). Personally I would tell the church to move. Once. The second time I would tell then by certified return receipt letter. The third time I would have them towed. And towed again until they figured it out. They are a business and need to park in their own lot and not repeatedly inconvenience the neighborhood. I have to ask, where do you live that you can get legally parked vehicles towed because you want to park there? It seems like you might not be too familiar with living in a city. Many businesses don't have lots and thus patrons must park on the street. I don't think the OP ever said the church had a lot. I live in Chicago, and rarely park on the street near my house. Yet, there is almost always a car parked in front of every house on this block. I would be pretty darn annoyed if people rang my doorbell every time they wanted to park in public street parking in front of my house. Dawn
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Post by Heart on Aug 17, 2014 4:19:45 GMT
I have a very narrow driveway that will only hold one car wide. We can park one in front of the other, but it's a pain. My DH and I work opposite schedules, so doing the "car dance" is not practical, really. The street directly in front of my house is restricted and doesn't allow parking. I can park across the street (in front of someone's house), though- which I did for quite a while.
The spot directly in front of my house seems to attract accidents, though. 2 of our cars have been totaled while parked on the street in 3 years.
Now my DH parks in the driveway (he has the newer car) and I park around the corner in front of someone else's house.
The idea that you shouldn't park in front of another person's house seems out of touch with reality - I mean, I really don't have any options.
Rebel; I'm sorry you are dealing with this. If someone was parking in "my spot" (which is now around the corner), I would be annoyed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 4:33:36 GMT
It's pretty insufferably rude to park in front of someone else's house without permission, barring some unusual situation (party, etc). Personally I would tell the church to move. Once. The second time I would tell then by certified return receipt letter. The third time I would have them towed. And towed again until they figured it out. They are a business and need to park in their own lot and not repeatedly inconvenience the neighborhood. You would TELL them to move, following up with a certified letter and then have them towed repeatedly? Good luck with that.
It might be NICE for them to not park there, but they've broken no laws or ordinances and have just as much legal right to park there as OP does.
Do you routinely have other cars "towed"? I'm wondering what kind of magic power you have that gives you the ability to have a vehicle towed that hasn't broken any law.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 17, 2014 5:48:58 GMT
It's pretty insufferably rude to park in front of someone else's house without permission, barring some unusual situation (party, etc). Personally I would tell the church to move. Once. The second time I would tell then by certified return receipt letter. The third time I would have them towed. And towed again until they figured it out. They are a business and need to park in their own lot and not repeatedly inconvenience the neighborhood. Whaat? You are suggesting that permission is required from a householder to park outside their house on a public street that has no limitations? That makes no sense at all. Neither does your second paragraph. How could a car be towed if no law or bye-law is being broken. Just because you say so?
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