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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 4:37:32 GMT
Yeah, I'm thinking that java is one of a few right-wing peas who left and have now come back without admitting that the group hair-flip out of here was insincere. And you are completely inaccurate in that thought. Why not stick to the topic at hand rather than showing an intolerance for a differing opinion. My political leaning whether it be left, right or somewhere in the middle is not up for debate. Actually your writing style is pretty identifiable. Silly to post under an assumed name, don't you think?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 5:05:25 GMT
Maybe this will make you feel better. They're still out there. There are millions more behind them. 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 6:09:54 GMT
And you are completely inaccurate in that thought. Why not stick to the topic at hand rather than showing an intolerance for a differing opinion. My political leaning whether it be left, right or somewhere in the middle is not up for debate. Fine. Not a right-wing pea, who left and came back. But a pea who has been a part of our community under another name and chosen to now post under another name, regardless of your political leaning. Happy now? I don't have an intolerance for differing opinions, but for cowards who change identities when they don't like how people have been responding to them as their original identity. You are joking here right.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 14, 2017 9:56:05 GMT
Why is he lying about the number of people at his inauguration? It really doesn't matter - he took the oath and he's now president, even if nobody was there to watch it. But he seems to truly believe that there was a huge crowd and continues to sell that story, even though there are photos and data to show that it is demonstrably false.    
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 14, 2017 11:04:06 GMT
Why is he lying about the number of people at his inauguration? It really doesn't matter - he took the oath and he's now president, even if nobody was there to watch it. But he seems to truly believe that there was a huge crowd and continues to sell that story, even though there are photos and data to show that it is demonstrably false.     Yes, those photos are true and they show all the people who were down at the Capitol end of the Mall and extending back onto the Mall toward the Washington Monument. Of course there were a lot of people there, the Capitol is where the inauguration takes place. It's the rest of the Mall that the photos show a contrast -- President Obama filled the Mall all the way back as far as it could go, past the Washington Monument even (I was there so I know that's a true fact). Trump did not fill the Mall that far back. Those are the photos that he seems not to believe, even though they are there in living color. Also he claims that all the parade viewing stands were filled when there is photo evidence that they were not. It's not that any of us really care about all that stuff, it's that he keeps bringing it up! Like the illegal voters thing. Why does it matter??? HE WON for pete's sake. Ugh, now I feel my blood pressure going up. But my thought is that if he can lie about little things like that, things that don't matter, then he has to be lying about big things also. and eta: If indeed there were as many illegal votes as Trump seems to think there were then it actually DOES matter. Because that would be a serious problem with our voting system. However, Trump prefers just to toss out accusations with no proof, and then he proposes no plan for investigating the allegation. It's just hot air.
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Post by elaine on Feb 14, 2017 11:30:15 GMT
Fine. Not a right-wing pea, who left and came back. But a pea who has been a part of our community under another name and chosen to now post under another name, regardless of your political leaning. Happy now? I don't have an intolerance for differing opinions, but for cowards who change identities when they don't like how people have been responding to them as their original identity.You are joking here right. Says another returning under another identity pea. Post under your real/old pea name and we'll talk.
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Post by lucillebluth on Feb 14, 2017 13:40:10 GMT
leftturnonly, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with those photos. No one is saying that there wasn't a crowd there--there were several hundred thousand people. But see the white areas in several your photos? Clearly the crowd didn't extend all the way to the monument. I had house guests who came to attend the inauguration, and they said that there was plenty of space on the parade bleachers. (Trump also told a bizarre lie about the weather. It was a grey day, and rained when Trump spoke--Franklin Graham, I think, even mentions that--but Trump claimed that God looked down and wouldn't let it rain, and the sun came out. Such a strange thing to lie about, when anyone there knew it to be false.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 14:11:21 GMT
leftturnonly , I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with those photos. No one is saying that there wasn't a crowd there--there were several hundred thousand people. But see the white areas in several your photos? Clearly the crowd didn't extend all the way to the monument. I had house guests who came to attend the inauguration, and they said that there was plenty of space on the parade bleachers. (Trump also told a bizarre lie about the weather. It was a grey day, and rained when Trump spoke--Franklin Graham, I think, even mentions that--but Trump claimed that God looked down and wouldn't let it rain, and the sun came out. Such a strange thing to lie about, when anyone there knew it to be false.) Here's a hint for the slower folks: Crowds fill front to back. So taking a picture at the front of the crowd will always look fuller than taking a picture of the back of the crowd, or an overhead of the ENTIRE crowd. Trump filled the front to the middle. Obama filled the entire mall. Not complicated.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 14, 2017 15:16:46 GMT
leftturnonly , I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with those photos. No one is saying that there wasn't a crowd there--there were several hundred thousand people. But see the white areas in several your photos? Clearly the crowd didn't extend all the way to the monument. I had house guests who came to attend the inauguration, and they said that there was plenty of space on the parade bleachers. (Trump also told a bizarre lie about the weather. It was a grey day, and rained when Trump spoke--Franklin Graham, I think, even mentions that--but Trump claimed that God looked down and wouldn't let it rain, and the sun came out. Such a strange thing to lie about, when anyone there knew it to be false.) Well actually @pyccu said exactly that: There was a huge crowd. Now why it was so damn important to him that people know just how YUGE the crowds were that he sent Spicer out to make an ass of himself at the news conference- I have no idea. But then I also don't know why people felt the need to point out President Obama's crowds were bigger - or now they want to pretend there wasn't a crowd at all. The entire thing is beyond ridiculous.
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 14, 2017 15:23:03 GMT
Oh yes! Lets talk about his crowd size instead of his ties to Russia. That's one of the reasons he does this (IMO)
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Post by scorpeao on Feb 14, 2017 15:27:16 GMT
I think a mental health evaluation should be required for anyone running for president. My dd was subjected to more screening to get into the Navy than the President of the United States is subjected to, including a security clearance where I had the FBI at my house interviewing me and neighbors. Now, I'm not an expert, but I don't think my dd is privy to the top secret information that Trump is.
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Post by loco coco on Feb 14, 2017 15:37:19 GMT
if you are "literally" sick over this then you need to quit reading the news. Move on and focus on better things
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Post by lucillebluth on Feb 14, 2017 15:37:22 GMT
leftturnonly , I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with those photos. No one is saying that there wasn't a crowd there--there were several hundred thousand people. But see the white areas in several your photos? Clearly the crowd didn't extend all the way to the monument. I had house guests who came to attend the inauguration, and they said that there was plenty of space on the parade bleachers. (Trump also told a bizarre lie about the weather. It was a grey day, and rained when Trump spoke--Franklin Graham, I think, even mentions that--but Trump claimed that God looked down and wouldn't let it rain, and the sun came out. Such a strange thing to lie about, when anyone there knew it to be false.) Well actually @pyccu said exactly that: There was a huge crowd. Now why it was so damn important to him that people know just how YUGE the crowds were that he sent Spicer out to make an ass of himself at the news conference- I have no idea. But then I also don't know why people felt the need to point out President Obama's crowds were bigger - or now they want to pretend there wasn't a crowd at all. The entire thing is beyond ridiculous. I guess it's not a huge crowd unless it's the hugest crowd, to Trump. People felt the need to point out that it was far short of Obama's crowd because Trump himself had predicted an impressive number (can't remember his exact words, but he was calling for a record crowd). It's only natural to compare.
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 14, 2017 15:41:16 GMT
if you are "literally" sick over this then you need to quit reading the news. Move on and focus on better things We all need to be literally sick over this administration, this is our country, we won't even recognize this country if he lasts 4 years.
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Post by loco coco on Feb 14, 2017 15:45:52 GMT
if you are "literally" sick over this then you need to quit reading the news. Move on and focus on better things We all need to be literally sick over this administration, this is our country, we won't even recognize this country if he lasts 4 years. and thats how you feel. There were plenty of people who didnt like Obama but I didnt see anyone saying they were literally ill. Thats a bit much
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 14, 2017 15:48:33 GMT
We all need to be literally sick over this administration, this is our country, we won't even recognize this country if he lasts 4 years. and thats how you feel. There were plenty of people who didnt like Obama but I didnt see anyone saying they were literally ill. Thats a bit much This is so much bigger than people just don't like Trump! ETa: And there were people calling Obama the Antichrist and losing their ever loving minds. But to compare Obama to Trump in my mind is just crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 15:52:24 GMT
We all need to be literally sick over this administration, this is our country, we won't even recognize this country if he lasts 4 years. and thats how you feel. There were plenty of people who didnt like Obama but I didnt see anyone saying they were literally ill. Thats a bit much Maybe not sick, but there were a lot of people convinced he was gonna take their guns, impose martial law and become a dictator. Oh and several who hung Obama effigies. On another message board there *was* a woman who said she was up all night sobbing after Obama's election, but I assume she was an anomaly.
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Post by loco coco on Feb 14, 2017 15:56:46 GMT
and thats how you feel. There were plenty of people who didnt like Obama but I didnt see anyone saying they were literally ill. Thats a bit much Maybe not sick, but there were a lot of people convinced he was gonna take their guns, impose martial law and become a dictator. Oh and several who hung Obama effigies. On another message board there *was* a woman who said she was up all night sobbing after Obama's election, but I assume she was an anomaly. You're right, the extreme hatred definitely goes on both sides. And guess what? None of that happened, just like people think Trump will become a dictator, its not gonna happen.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 14, 2017 15:59:54 GMT
I'll just point out that if Trump is truly mentally ill and unfit for the presidency, there's no need for a coup. That's the nice thing about our Constitution, we actually have a perfectly legal process to remove an incapacitated president. Although it does require that the people around him actually feel he's unfit - not a bunch of people watching him on tv and armchair diagnosing him.
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 14, 2017 16:01:20 GMT
It's not extreme hatred for trump, it's extreme paying attention to what he is doing!
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Post by Prenticekid on Feb 14, 2017 17:09:37 GMT
if you are "literally" sick over this then you need to quit reading the news. Move on and focus on better things At this point, it is our job to stay current with the news, although we do need a spreadsheet! Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them. Now, we are dealing with something totally different than being anti-whoeverisintheWH. We have a full out delusional autocrat in the WH who has surrounded himself with extremists and incompetents. We are in a completely different realm, and it cannot be ignored just so we feel better about it.
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Post by nicoleq on Feb 14, 2017 17:19:32 GMT
Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them. Just so I'm clear, if you were not a President Obama supporter, you're calling everyone a racist, "for the most part". It would have nothing to do with his politics or policies. You're just a straight up racist... for the most part.
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Post by hollymolly on Feb 14, 2017 17:36:56 GMT
Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them. Just so I'm clear, if you were not a President Obama supporter, you're calling everyone a racist, "for the most part". It would have nothing to do with his politics or policies. You're just a straight up racist... for the most part. Please do not think that all Obama supporters believe that anti-Obama was "for the most part" racism. I do not support that assumption.
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 14, 2017 17:40:01 GMT
Just so I'm clear, if you were not a President Obama supporter, you're calling everyone a racist, "for the most part". It would have nothing to do with his politics or policies. You're just a straight up racist... for the most part. Please do not think that all Obama supporters believe that anti-Obama was "for the most part" racism. I do not support that assumption. nor do I.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 14, 2017 17:43:55 GMT
Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them. Just so I'm clear, if you were not a President Obama supporter, you're calling everyone a racist, "for the most part". It would have nothing to do with his politics or policies. You're just a straight up racist... for the most part. I think there was a strong component of racism to the completely out-of-proportion hatred of Pres. Obama. That's why we saw so many images of and references to monkeys in the White House. Certainly not everyone who disliked Pres. Obama was a racist. I'm sure that you and the rest of our anti-Obama peas respect everyone equally. There's still a long history of conscious and UNconscious racism in this country. "I'm not a racist, BUT ... " yeah, okay.
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Post by Prenticekid on Feb 14, 2017 17:44:12 GMT
Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them. Just so I'm clear, if you were not a President Obama supporter, you're calling everyone a racist, "for the most part". It would have nothing to do with his politics or policies. You're just a straight up racist... for the most part. Not everyone. Those who had a hatred for Obama, those who actually expressed racist sentiments about Obama and his family, those who blamed him for every little thing every moment of the day. If it were anything else, then there would not have been on a constant barrage against Obama at the levels that we saw. And, we would not now be where we are now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 17:44:17 GMT
I liked the post because I agreed with the majority of it.
I do not feel that the millions of people who voted for Romney were all racist. I think most voted for him because they liked the Republican platform.
I *do* think that the good ole boys in D.C. had a problem with Obama bc of his race however.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 17:56:35 GMT
if you are "literally" sick over this then you need to quit reading the news. Move on and focus on better things At this point, it is our job to stay current with the news, although we do need a spreadsheet! Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them. Now, we are dealing with something totally different than being anti-whoeverisintheWH. We have a full out delusional autocrat in the WH who has surrounded himself with extremists and incompetents. We are in a completely different realm, and it cannot be ignored just so we feel better about it. Ahhh, just like everyone that voted for Trump is a racist also (for the most part), right? I'm seeing the trend now. Answer me this: I voted for Obama once. What does that make me? Racist or no? Does it make a difference whether I voted for him the first time vs. the second, and vice versa? WTF.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 14, 2017 18:14:04 GMT
I hate blanket statements.
They diffuse the point of the statement. Saying "all" or nearly all to something in a statement, although partially true, can now often be thrown out as false and discarded.
People were racist against Obama. People were not. Can we separate the two and then talk?
That being said, I have heard PLENTY of Obama bashing and statements not excepting of "his policies" ending or somewhere mentioning he was black. (but I'm not a racist mentality)
I have heard some statements from people against Obamas policies and other things not bringing race into it. They were welcome but not as common 'round here. But not all statements against him were racist.
Heck, I didn't agree with everything he did and said. I don't think I could say I'd agree with everything anyone says.
ETA " 'round here" was referring to those in my life that I heard the most from concerning Pres. Obama. One who could never not say something negative. My experience, not town/state/location
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Post by betty on Feb 14, 2017 20:06:55 GMT
Those who are anti-Obama were always (for the most part) racist, so having to deal with his presidency was nothing new to them Not everyone. Those who had a hatred for Obama, those who actually expressed racist sentiments about Obama and his family, those who blamed him for every little thing every moment of the day. If it were anything else, then there would not have been on a constant barrage against Obama at the levels that we saw And, we would not now be where we are now And there aren't those now who are blaming President Trump for "every little thing every moment of the day"? You know, "a constant barrage against" President Trump? Same thing, different President.
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