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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 16, 2017 16:45:54 GMT
It can be irritating when they clearly take your information from FindAGrave - using your photos and even a screenshot of your memorial - and put it all in their tree wrong. I see it and have this pretend conversation with them that goes something like this.... "Dude! I laid it all out for you! All you had to do was put the people in the right spots in your tree, and you mucked it all up. Do you not see this? What you have makes no sense at all! Look at the surnames of the children, for goodness sakes! Isn't that a clue? Hello.... hello.... hello.... anybody home?" I have one photo I took that has popped up as a hint for my ggrandfather. It's the headstone for his wife and son. Not only isn't it for him, he is neither buried in the same cemetery OR THE SAME STATE and that information was right there where they got the photo from. I politely did explain that in a message .... and everything's still all wrong in that public tree. My gravestone photo is the profile picture for people not even buried in the same state as him. Hopefully, anyone looking at that tree will actually take a moment to wonder why. And then take another moment to wonder why the children have different last names. They didn't even have children together! The headstone profile photo is for someone not even mentioned on the page. This doesn't surprise me at all. Someone probably took your info from findagrave and entered it all correctly in THEIR tree. Then ancestry starts popping it up in hints in other people's trees for not just that individual, but also their immediate family. Someone saves it to their tree without looking - there you go. I have a picture I found of my husband's fourth great-great grandfather in a book (which was crazy exciting - yes that's crazy exciting in my world) - I swear every time someone copies that picture to their tree it shows up as a hint for 5 people in my tree. While that does happen, this person is the one who brought the photo from FindAGrave to Ancestry. She is ground zero here. I don't know who may copy it from her tree. It's a distant twig on an outlying branch that very few on her side would even venture near. People on my side will probably look at her tree and hopefully go "WOAH! That's messed up!" Oddly, she was interested in my real ggrandmother (the one we've been searching for) because of what we only think was her maternal surname. The gravestone actually is for my real ggrandmother. My real ggrandmother is not who she has included in her tree. She mucked it up royally!
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Post by shutterbug2sue on Feb 16, 2017 17:59:40 GMT
Reading this thread is making me think I need to renew my ancestry membership... But it's a big rabbit hole I don't have time for now!
I've had the world membership and filled in a bunch of gaps on my husband's side. The search and realizing the info links is exhilarating!
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Feb 16, 2017 18:08:57 GMT
Speaking of FindAGrave, I just signed up to that site. They have my maternal grandfather's year of birth wrong. I went to edit it, but it is still showing the wrong year. Does anyone know what I did wrong? UNLESS you are managing that memorial entry, you enter what needs to be edited and hopefully, sometime in the next month, the manager will edit it. IF the person managing it is NOT a direct descendant, YOU can request them to transfer it to YOU, that you are a grandchild of his and that makes you a direct descendant. They have to give it up to a direct descendant UNLESS they are also a direct descendant also. Then, the edits you make will happen immediately. That is why I asked for management, so that I could do the changes and corrections myself. And it makes it easier to add pictures and put them in the order you want, etc.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 16, 2017 18:49:13 GMT
Speaking of FindAGrave, I just signed up to that site. They have my maternal grandfather's year of birth wrong. I went to edit it, but it is still showing the wrong year. Does anyone know what I did wrong? UNLESS you are managing that memorial entry, you enter what needs to be edited and hopefully, sometime in the next month, the manager will edit it. IF the person managing it is NOT a direct descendant, YOU can request them to transfer it to YOU, that you are a grandchild of his and that makes you a direct descendant. They have to give it up to a direct descendant UNLESS they are also a direct descendant also. Then, the edits you make will happen immediately. That is why I asked for management, so that I could do the changes and corrections myself. And it makes it easier to add pictures and put them in the order you want, etc. I manage some pages. Unless I go to FindAGrave and check, I don't know if someone has sent in something needing attention or not. Make sure you sent in the correction the right way or it might never even get seen. On every memorial page there, in the right corner is a button that says EDIT. If you click on that, a page will open up with a whole list of different things that you may want to edit. Click the correct line and put in your correction. The person who manages the page will get a message that there is an edit waiting for their approval. Sometimes, managers go missing. A dear friend of mine had thousands of memorials and died. I don't think anyone has taken up her work. If you don't get any response, you can contact FindAGrave and tell them that you have waited for however long (I'd wait at least a month) and gotten no response. They can make the changes from a higher managerial position. ALSO --- lesson learned the hard way. People can be extremely protective of their pages. You'd think someone with a hundred thousand memorials would be more than happy to turn one over to actual family..... but, some of them hate to let any of them go. If you want to take over management of a memorial that doesn't appear to be run by direct family, you can ask for the management to be transferred to you by using the same EDIT button and finding the line that says "Suggest any other correction or addition." The politer you ask, the better. It's also a good idea to say how you are related and ask if they aren't family if they would mind letting you be the manager. If you do not get a response, again, you can take it up the chain of management. You need to be within 4 (I think it's 4) generations of direct relationship to have any expectation of transfer. On the plus side, most people are very happy to have their memorial taken over by family who cares and don't care how they are even related to you.
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Feb 16, 2017 19:12:11 GMT
UNLESS you are managing that memorial entry, you enter what needs to be edited and hopefully, sometime in the next month, the manager will edit it. IF the person managing it is NOT a direct descendant, YOU can request them to transfer it to YOU, that you are a grandchild of his and that makes you a direct descendant. They have to give it up to a direct descendant UNLESS they are also a direct descendant also. Then, the edits you make will happen immediately. That is why I asked for management, so that I could do the changes and corrections myself. And it makes it easier to add pictures and put them in the order you want, etc. I manage some pages. Unless I go to FindAGrave and check, I don't know if someone has sent in something needing attention or not. Make sure you sent in the correction the right way or it might never even get seen. On every memorial page there, in the right corner is a button that says EDIT. If you click on that, a page will open up with a whole list of different things that you may want to edit. Click the correct line and put in your correction. The person who manages the page will get a message that there is an edit waiting for their approval. Sometimes, managers go missing. A dear friend of mine had thousands of memorials and died. I don't think anyone has taken up her work. If you don't get any response, you can contact FindAGrave and tell them that you have waited for however long (I'd wait at least a month) and gotten no response. They can make the changes from a higher managerial position. ALSO --- lesson learned the hard way. People can be extremely protective of their pages. You'd think someone with a hundred thousand memorials would be more than happy to turn one over to actual family..... but, some of them hate to let any of them go. If you want to take over management of a memorial that doesn't appear to be run by direct family, you can ask for the management to be transferred to you by using the same EDIT button and finding the line that says "Suggest any other correction or addition." The politer you ask, the better. It's also a good idea to say how you are related and ask if they aren't family if they would mind letting you be the manager. If you do not get a response, again, you can take it up the chain of management. You need to be within 4 (I think it's 4) generations of direct relationship to have any expectation of transfer. On the plus side, most people are very happy to have their memorial taken over by family who cares and don't care how they are even related to you. Yes, this. I always ask politely and tell them how I'm related. I have some that I am NOT the direct descendant because they are first cousins or a great-aunt. But the person was happy to give them to me. However, there is a jerk that has tons and won't let me have the great-uncle (husband of the great-aunt) and he tells you he only does the basics and he doesn't want to give up. I'm not blood related to the great-uncle but I knew his family better than some of my own and would love to get all of them and get them linked up and some bios done... I have a great aunt and uncle who died at 9 and 3 that I want, they obviously have so descendants but I grew up knowing about them and seeing their graves often and a family member still lived in the house they lived and died in and they are very real to me. I just want them to belong to a relative that cares. I'm very likely the only one that knows anything because I'm the oldest granddaughter to the oldest child. Oh and I don't see why they should care, it STILL says that they started that memorial and still shows up in their list, just not bold like the ones you still manage.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 16, 2017 19:34:00 GMT
AngieandSnoopy - In cases like that, I make sure to send in edits so they can be linked to the correct parents. If the edits are refused or ignored, you could try taking it up the chain.... But I prefer to link to these orphan pages from the parents and siblings that I manage and perhaps add a little bio on these pages that I control. Let's face it. Your pages are more likely to be checked anyway since the others were kids with no descendants. (There are directions on how to put an active link to another memorial on your page at FindAGrave in the question/answer section.)
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 17, 2017 12:17:38 GMT
Reading this thread is making me think I need to renew my ancestry membership... But it's a big rabbit hole I don't have time for now! I've had the world membership and filled in a bunch of gaps on my husband's side. The search and realizing the info links is exhilarating! I don't have time for it right now either. I would love to spend hours poring over records, but work is very busy now. Maybe this summer.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Feb 17, 2017 14:05:23 GMT
I also wonder if I should do another family tree for my ex-husband? I've his name on mine, with his mom and dad and I actually know more about his side of the family than my own! I'm basically doing this for my sons even though they couldn't care less right now. Those who have it all down, do you do separate trees or keep it all on one? I have a separate tree for DH's family. When I started my tree on Ancestry.com, I made a maternal tree for myself, as well as a paternal tree, which is not the normal way to go about it. I'm not sure I would do that again, but for me it is easier to work on it that way.
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Post by melanell on Feb 17, 2017 14:52:59 GMT
I also wonder if I should do another family tree for my ex-husband? I've his name on mine, with his mom and dad and I actually know more about his side of the family than my own! I'm basically doing this for my sons even though they couldn't care less right now. Those who have it all down, do you do separate trees or keep it all on one? I do research my DH's side as well. On ancestry, I have one giant tree. I've named it after the kids, since it is their full tree, as opposed to my tree & DH's tree. So instead of using my name for the tree, I used something like Leo & Ben Miller's Tree". Save
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Post by melanell on Feb 17, 2017 15:27:00 GMT
I do research my DH's side as well. On ancestry, I have one giant tree. I've named it after the kids, since it is their full tree, as opposed to my tree & DH's tree. So instead of using my name for the tree, I used something like Leo & Ben Miller's Tree". SaveHmmm...good idea! Can I edit my tree to have my sons at the beginning instead of me? I'm trying to see it in my head. I still have to watch videos on this whole thing. I'm still the first person in ancestry's eyes, because I started mine off that way as well, but then I just added my kids and started branching out from them. They're only one step away from me so it's easy to just click on their names if I wish. That's when I changed the tree name to indicate what i was actually doing. I never checked to see if I could edit the original person, because I didn't want to choose one kid over the other. Save
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 17, 2017 23:41:20 GMT
I do research my DH's side as well. On ancestry, I have one giant tree. I've named it after the kids, since it is their full tree, as opposed to my tree & DH's tree. So instead of using my name for the tree, I used something like Leo & Ben Miller's Tree". SaveHmmm...good idea! Can I edit my tree to have my sons at the beginning instead of me? I'm trying to see it in my head. I still have to watch videos on this whole thing. Sure. Just make one of your kids the home person for that tree. Go up to the buttons just under the address bar and click on TREES. Find the tree you want to change, and click on Manage tree. It will tell you who your home person is and right under that is a button to change it.
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Post by Karene on Feb 18, 2017 2:57:13 GMT
If you are looking for Quebec information, check out the Drouin Collection on Ancestry. It has birth, marriage and deaths records. I have found my grandparents' families on there with great success. Another site is bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/lovell/ which has tons of city directories. It is really helpful if your ancestors lived in Montreal. Under the left hand menu, open up the title Montreal et sa banlieue, then Serie principale. This will list all the years of city directories. Pick a year and then the way you wish to view the directory. The early ones don't have many options but the later ones let you search alphabetical by last name or by street. It will list the address and the adults living there and their occupations. I was able to track my family's moves around the city. You can also see you lives with or near your family.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 3:26:18 GMT
For anyone interested, Ancestry sent me an email that its offering free UK record searches through 2/20/17. You don't have to have a paid or trial subscription, but you do need an account (free): "We're opening up our site for you to explore more than 1 billion UK records—so you can find out if you're one of the 60 million plus Americans with British ancestry. It's for three days only, so now's the time to find those crown jewels hidden in your family tree." www.ancestry.com/cs/ukrecords
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