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Post by peabay on Feb 17, 2017 3:46:22 GMT
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But having just sent my third daughter to school, I know how much more competitive it's become. It's a whole different world.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 3:50:00 GMT
I graduated HS in 77....applied to 3 SUNY schools..got in all three and chose SUNY Geneseo.. SUNY Geneseo was the only school out of the 4 I applied to in 1987 that didn't accept me. I ended up at SUNY Oswego and had a blast!!!
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 17, 2017 3:53:09 GMT
In the 1980s.. Harvard, Cornell, Georgetown, Stanford, MIT, Yale Heehee.. There was no option for me.. I didn't go to college. DD just applied to one and got in.... paid for as well. Well she pays about $800 a semster.. she just started her second semester as a Freshman
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 17, 2017 4:03:14 GMT
I applied to 5 University of California schools, Stanford and Cornell
Edited to add - I was interested in civil or mechanical engineering so applied to only schools that I thought were best at that. We used a college counselor which helped. I'm not sure why I didn't apply to more schools like MIT and Michigan.... I assume my boys will apply to a lot is schools to cast a wide net
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Post by likescarrots on Feb 17, 2017 18:07:40 GMT
I graduated high school in the late 90s. Iapplied to one school, it was a small, local state school. 2 years in i wanted to transfer so I applied to the one school i wanted to transfer to, and went there. 9 years after graduating i decided to go to grad school and applied to 1 school. So technically 3 but only one at a time and i went to each school.
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Post by threegirls on Feb 17, 2017 18:22:57 GMT
I just applied to one. I don't know what I would have done if I wasn't accepted. I had no back-up plan! This was in the mid-80's.
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Post by mallie on Feb 17, 2017 19:34:56 GMT
I always caution people in low income brackets to be very careful about this assumption. As I said before, I applied to everyone and their brother. The Ivy and Ivy-like schools offered packages that well exceeded state schools. Every state and family circumstance is obviously different. But I caution people that if you have the grades and scores for an Ivy or other elite school that offers 100% meet need based financial aid - apply. Those schools have huge endowments and are extremely generous with their packages (at least in my experience). My brother was 10 years younger than me. He was also a National Merit scholar and was accepted to Harvard. His package did not come close to covering all the costs, and considering how expensive housing would have been, he would have needed significant loans. And no, my family was not wealthy LOL, but he was the youngest child by 7 years, so Mom and Dad only had him and my disabled brother as dependents. The only significant savings they had was in retirement accounts, but they were completely debt free, and even though Dad was definitely no higher than lower-middle-class based on income, that all counted against them. So while we had always heard about the generous endowment and aid packages (from the counselors at the high school), my parents expected contribution was prohibitive. And then there was the travel issue--it was expensive to get back and forth to school if he were to go there. Need-based is very subjective, and it often does not correlate with the reality of what a family can really afford to pay. The only other school he applied to was WVU. He was accepted into the honors college and had a wonderful experience. Seven years later, he walked out of WVU with a masters in Economics, no debt, over $7,000 in the bank, and a well-paying job that he wanted doing research with the federal government. And BTW, he works with other economists who attended Ivy League schools, so it wasn't even a matter of settling for a lower-paying job by not going to Harvard. He never wanted a life on Wall Street or in big business, so his path met his needs. Our experience with our girls was that the idea of the elite schools throwing full rides at great students was a myth. (Just like going to a community college and transferring to a 4 year school and getting the 4 year school to accept all of the cc credits is a myth.) My girls were excellent students, great extracurriculars, great references and none got any offers that amounted to more than 33% of the cost. Two of them were told that they got the #1 merit scholarship to the colleges in question and even then, these "huge" scholarships only amounted to 33% of the cost. So those schools apparently do not even have full rides, if the admissions counselors are to be believed. My dd's fiance's brother was just offered the biggest scholarship to the private college he wants to attend and that figure will cover 75% of the costs, but the other 25% would result in him having to take out massive loans which would be a bad idea considering he wants to be a music teacher. In fact, the only person I know who got a full ride to an elite school went there for accounting, became an accountant -- so, ironically, he really could have gone anywhere. I would not encourage any student to apply to a private college and operate under the assumption that they will get enough money. I would tell them to do so only as a "Well, let's see."
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Post by Flowergirl on Feb 17, 2017 19:43:57 GMT
I graduated HS in 77....applied to 3 SUNY schools..got in all three and chose SUNY Geneseo.. DS is finishing up his senior year there, and it's also DH's alma mater. DD (HS Sr) is on the train right now headed there for siblings weekend. I'm hoping what happens in Genny stays in Genny this weekend! 😉
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Post by Flowergirl on Feb 17, 2017 19:53:51 GMT
I graduated HS in 77....applied to 3 SUNY schools..got in all three and chose SUNY Geneseo.. SUNY Geneseo was the only school out of the 4 I applied to in 1987 that didn't accept me. I ended up at SUNY Oswego and had a blast!!! Hey fellow Laker! I graduated from Oswego in 87. I kept your seat in Hewitt Union warm for you! I visited with DS back in 2012 for the first time since I graduated when he was doing college visits. Parts of the campus really changed--especially the new union/student center/hockey rink. And downtown, the travesty of Bucklands being torn down for a McDonalds. All the poor Oswego kids that never got doused by a beer dumped from the balcony while they were on the dance floor. I took my kids down to water street and showed them Old City Hall, where Mom spent entirely too much time on the weekends 😂. DS (now a sr) chose Geneseo. DH went there as well.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 17, 2017 20:01:15 GMT
My brother was 10 years younger than me. He was also a National Merit scholar and was accepted to Harvard. His package did not come close to covering all the costs, and considering how expensive housing would have been, he would have needed significant loans. And no, my family was not wealthy LOL, but he was the youngest child by 7 years, so Mom and Dad only had him and my disabled brother as dependents. The only significant savings they had was in retirement accounts, but they were completely debt free, and even though Dad was definitely no higher than lower-middle-class based on income, that all counted against them. So while we had always heard about the generous endowment and aid packages (from the counselors at the high school), my parents expected contribution was prohibitive. And then there was the travel issue--it was expensive to get back and forth to school if he were to go there. Need-based is very subjective, and it often does not correlate with the reality of what a family can really afford to pay. The only other school he applied to was WVU. He was accepted into the honors college and had a wonderful experience. Seven years later, he walked out of WVU with a masters in Economics, no debt, over $7,000 in the bank, and a well-paying job that he wanted doing research with the federal government. And BTW, he works with other economists who attended Ivy League schools, so it wasn't even a matter of settling for a lower-paying job by not going to Harvard. He never wanted a life on Wall Street or in big business, so his path met his needs. Our experience with our girls was that the idea of the elite schools throwing full rides at great students was a myth. (Just like going to a community college and transferring to a 4 year school and getting the 4 year school to accept all of the cc credits is a myth.) My girls were excellent students, great extracurriculars, great references and none got any offers that amounted to more than 33% of the cost. Two of them were told that they got the #1 merit scholarship to the colleges in question and even then, these "huge" scholarships only amounted to 33% of the cost. So those schools apparently do not even have full rides, if the admissions counselors are to be believed. My dd's fiance's brother was just offered the biggest scholarship to the private college he wants to attend and that figure will cover 75% of the costs, but the other 25% would result in him having to take out massive loans which would be a bad idea considering he wants to be a music teacher. In fact, the only person I know who got a full ride to an elite school went there for accounting, became an accountant -- so, ironically, he really could have gone anywhere. I would not encourage any student to apply to a private college and operate under the assumption that they will get enough money. I would tell them to do so only as a "Well, let's see." My DD never applied to the elite schools, so I don't have any personal experience for how it is today vs. the 1980s and 1990s when my siblings and I were applying. However, she went to a pretty elite high school in VA, and a lot of her friends were applying to them. DD had a 4.4 weighted GPA, and she just barely made the top 20% of her class (she was #88 out of 450-some students). There were several high-achieving students from low income families who attended this health science magnet program, and I only know of one who got a full ride to an elite school based on academics. One of her friends did get a full ride to U of Michigan for ice skating, but that was some kind of special memorial scholarship or something--I forget the details, but I don't think it was for the purpose of competing for the school. From what I know through friends who went through the process, the elite schools offered huge packages that brought the costs down significantly, but if you qualified for those, you could also qualify for packages at state schools. After deducting the package from the overall cost, the state schools usually came out significantly cheaper. Of course, for some, the elite education was worth taking out all those loans. For others, it wasn't. There is always that argument for why you go to college. Is it to prepare for a career? Or just to become educated, which then leads to a career. In a perfect world , education just for the sake of education would be wonderful, but in reality, you better have some way to pay back those loans. Stretching yourself financially hinders a student's ability to change paths during college. They get locked into that business degree they planned for because they can finish in four years before the aid package runs out, even if they realize that isn't really what they want to do. Mom and Dad might have been okay co-signing for loans for a finance or engineering major that would lead to a salary that could make the payments, but not for the history or English major that won't. That's a lot of pressure on a student to follow through with a degree regardless of whether it's a good fit.
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Post by perumbula on Feb 17, 2017 20:09:53 GMT
Class of 1992. I applied to one, BYU-Hawaii. My parents made me pay for my own admission fees, so I didn't see any point in throwing away money on back up schools. I was very eligible for the one I wanted. There were people who thought I was crazy for only applying to one school, and a private not easy to get into school either. I just couldn't conceive of them saying no. Which was kind of naive of me, but it worked out. I spent two years there and it was an amazing experience.
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Post by dillydally on Feb 17, 2017 20:41:47 GMT
1986 grad. I applied to 2. The state school down the road that I had always assumed I'd go to, and an out-of-state school that I only visited because I was tagging along with my cousin on a college visit (my aunt was trying to keep her from following her boyfriend - it didn't work. . I didn't get on-campus housing at the state school, so I went to the out-of-state one, which was about the same price as in-state; until my junior year when out of state tuition took a bit of a hike. The common app makes it a lot easier to apply to lots of schools since kids don't have to type/hand-write each app!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 17, 2017 20:45:42 GMT
My brother was 10 years younger than me. He was also a National Merit scholar and was accepted to Harvard. His package did not come close to covering all the costs, and considering how expensive housing would have been, he would have needed significant loans. And no, my family was not wealthy LOL, but he was the youngest child by 7 years, so Mom and Dad only had him and my disabled brother as dependents. The only significant savings they had was in retirement accounts, but they were completely debt free, and even though Dad was definitely no higher than lower-middle-class based on income, that all counted against them. So while we had always heard about the generous endowment and aid packages (from the counselors at the high school), my parents expected contribution was prohibitive. And then there was the travel issue--it was expensive to get back and forth to school if he were to go there. Need-based is very subjective, and it often does not correlate with the reality of what a family can really afford to pay. The only other school he applied to was WVU. He was accepted into the honors college and had a wonderful experience. Seven years later, he walked out of WVU with a masters in Economics, no debt, over $7,000 in the bank, and a well-paying job that he wanted doing research with the federal government. And BTW, he works with other economists who attended Ivy League schools, so it wasn't even a matter of settling for a lower-paying job by not going to Harvard. He never wanted a life on Wall Street or in big business, so his path met his needs. Our experience with our girls was that the idea of the elite schools throwing full rides at great students was a myth. (Just like going to a community college and transferring to a 4 year school and getting the 4 year school to accept all of the cc credits is a myth.) My girls were excellent students, great extracurriculars, great references and none got any offers that amounted to more than 33% of the cost. Two of them were told that they got the #1 merit scholarship to the colleges in question and even then, these "huge" scholarships only amounted to 33% of the cost. So those schools apparently do not even have full rides, if the admissions counselors are to be believed. My dd's fiance's brother was just offered the biggest scholarship to the private college he wants to attend and that figure will cover 75% of the costs, but the other 25% would result in him having to take out massive loans which would be a bad idea considering he wants to be a music teacher. In fact, the only person I know who got a full ride to an elite school went there for accounting, became an accountant -- so, ironically, he really could have gone anywhere. I would not encourage any student to apply to a private college and operate under the assumption that they will get enough money. I would tell them to do so only as a "Well, let's see." Most don't give merit scholarships at all. A free ride from MIT means that your family's income is so low the family contribution is zero. 100% need met policy means that they will offer financial aid to meet the difference between the family contribution and the cost of the school (including housing). Now many families may disagree with their ability to pay the expected family contribution - and as twinsmomfla99 pointed out there may be other schools that offer significant packages that will exceed the amount an elite school will offer as they do NOT offer merit scholarships. I am curious what kind of package I would have been offered at some of these other large state universities in other states - I didn't apply to any out of state public school and the California system in the 90s definitely didn't offer much merit money - or they didn't offer it to me. Most of the private universities offered packages that made attending less expensive than staying in California and attending even CalPoly (which was cheaper than the UCs). But my family contribution wasn't zero, and I did leave college with loans (modest in size and fully repaid within 5 years).
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 17, 2017 20:58:14 GMT
I'll add these are the schools that give no merit scholarships: Yale Harvard U Penn Columbia MIT Cornell Georgetown Pomona Williams Amherst Haverford Wellesley Colgate Middlebury Bates Barnard Vassar Thomas Aquinas Holy Cross Connecticut College
BUT - some of these school have become way more generous for middle income families than when I was a kid:
Princeton - full ride (includes room&board) if your family makes less than $54,000; free tuition for families making less than $120,000
Full ride schools if family income less than $60,000: Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Duke,
Harvard and Yale - full ride if less than $65,000
Stanford - full ride if less than $65,000, no tuition if less than $120,000
MIT - no tuition for families making less than $75,000
Dartmouth - no tuition for families making less than $100,000
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Post by melissa on Feb 18, 2017 20:43:03 GMT
I was in the early 80's and I applied to something like 11 or 12 schools.
My mom was ill and I didn't get to go on college visits until I was accepted. I knew what Rutgers and Princeton looked like and had a concept of the vibe, but did not want to go to either because they were too close to home. Though, had Princeton accepted me off the wait list, I probably would have gone.
I spread a wide net as I was torn about what I wanted. I was interested in exclusive Ivies (not all of them though) and/or schools with strong science/engineering and schools with 6 year BS/MD programs. I applied as an engineering major anywhere that it was a choice. Got into the state school (Rutgers) and every non-Ivy I applied to. I was wait listed at all 3 Ivies that I was interested in. Some of the schools on my list I only applied to because they had a combined BS/MD program. So glad I didn't get into any of those programs! Got into the schools, but not the 6 year programs. Went to RPI because science and engineering won out but changed my major at the end of first semester freshman year when I found out what bioengineering really was back then. Went on a tour at our reunion this year and found out that what bioengineering is NOW is what I wanted to do then! LOL!
I think the whole college thing kind of caught my parents by surprise. Not that they didn't expect that I would go, but they did not keep up with costs so all the money they had saved for me was gone quickly (my fault for not taking the scholarship to Rutgers) and I was just not prepared. Didn't really know what I wanted to do (which is normal) and only knew where I did NOT want to go (anything super close to home!)
In contrast, dd did things very differently. She only applied to one school and we knew she was going to be accepted. She goes less than half time at the moment. Planning to pick up the pace once she has a more steady, predictable job as a ballet dancer.
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Post by raindancer on Feb 18, 2017 20:49:12 GMT
I applied to three in 1994and was accepted by all of them. Then I dropped out and got married and got a job. In 2010 I applied to one and was accepted. In 2014 I applied to one grad program and was accepted.
I have no idea what my kids will do but it will be dependent on scholarships and other financial support they can get so they have as little debt at the end as possible.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Feb 18, 2017 22:36:34 GMT
I applied to five that I recall. Had to see where the most financial aid was going to come from. I reeeeeeeeeeally wanted to go to Georgetown (I was accepted) but it was too much money. Me too! I had enough money saved to pay for one year at Georgetown or 4 years at a "super cheap" out of state university. I am encouraging my daughter to apply to my alma mater. The tuition instate is $7,000 a year. If your parents or grandparents attended you can apply for instate tuition. When I started in 1981 it was $225 a semester for out of state tuition, by the time I graduated it was around $2K. It pretty much doubled every semester. It is still a bargain.
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Post by utmr on Feb 19, 2017 1:06:03 GMT
I found a 1983 calendar from UT Arlington. 12 months of pictures of happy commuter students smiling in front of different buildings. The last page - front and back - was the application. Basically name address, high school, what other colleges did you attend, did you take the SAT (they didn't ask for your score, just did you take it) and what major. That was it.
DDs comment: it takes more paperwork to join a gym. It was so different back then.
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Post by brina on Feb 19, 2017 1:56:55 GMT
I applied to 5, got into 3. Got offered very generous aid because my family had no money. Chose the 'most prestigious' of the three and found it was still hard to be on aid. Their estimate of costs were not truly the costs of some things. And it was hard to be at work when your friends were at parties or out having fun - and that work was part of your aid package, so not a choice.
Should have taken the SUNY-Buffalo offer that was more generous in their stipend. One of my best friends was going there - a year ahead of me - and I worried, probably rightly, that going there as well would have ruined our friendship. Also, I wouldn't have met my husband.
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Post by Grom Pea on Feb 19, 2017 2:31:26 GMT
I applied to 5, two were within my grasp and 3 were reach schools and I got into the two. Back in the day my dad and uncle all talked about how they decided to go to mit and just went as of it was just a matter of selecting a school. Then again they are both brilliant so I guess maybe people can still do that today if they're smart enough. I did not make the cut :-P
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Post by jennifercw on Feb 19, 2017 2:31:42 GMT
Class of 1990, Texas resident living in Maryland (military family) at the time:
Smith - accepted Bryn Mawr - accepted University of Maryland Baltimore County - accepted William & Mary - denied University of Virginia - wait listed, application withdrawn Virginia Tech - accepted
My top 2 choices, after visiting all 6, were Smith and Virginia Tech. Two very different options! Smith did offer some financial aid, but not enough for it to be affordable so I ended up at Virginia Tech. Loved it there and have absolutely no regrets.
My dd is a senior and Virginia Tech is currently her top choice. She applied to three total, two out of state and one in. She has already been accepted at both other schools (rolling admission at one and early decision at the other) but is still waiting to hear from VT.
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Post by psiluvu on Feb 19, 2017 2:41:32 GMT
1986 - it cost $50.00 to apply to 3 so I applied to one reach, one target, one safety, got accepted at all 3 and decided on the target school because it was bilingual (French/English). No early admissions then everyone got their letters mid June.
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Post by anniefb on Feb 19, 2017 3:38:16 GMT
It was the 1980s and I applied to just 1 - the one in my city.
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Post by moodyblue on Feb 19, 2017 4:04:04 GMT
I graduated high school in 1974. Right after school started my senior year (so about September 1973) I applied to the one place I had wanted to go since I was a little kid, a private college near where I grew up. I was accepted within weeks and that was the end of the process. I never considered or applied anywhere else.
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Post by mom on Feb 19, 2017 4:59:35 GMT
I applied to 2 and got into 2 - this was in 1998.
I ended up following a boyfriend, and dropped out to get married. Mistake!
I applied to a 3rd school & got in after my divorce. I finished my degree, then I married to my DH. After my divorce I got a ton of grants (mom with 2 kids =no money) so I was able to graduate debt free.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 19, 2017 5:06:29 GMT
Our experience with our girls was that the idea of the elite schools throwing full rides at great students was a myth. (Just like going to a community college and transferring to a 4 year school and getting the 4 year school to accept all of the cc credits is a myth.) My girls were excellent students, great extracurriculars, great references and none got any offers that amounted to more than 33% of the cost. Two of them were told that they got the #1 merit scholarship to the colleges in question and even then, these "huge" scholarships only amounted to 33% of the cost. So those schools apparently do not even have full rides, if the admissions counselors are to be believed. My dd's fiance's brother was just offered the biggest scholarship to the private college he wants to attend and that figure will cover 75% of the costs, but the other 25% would result in him having to take out massive loans which would be a bad idea considering he wants to be a music teacher. In fact, the only person I know who got a full ride to an elite school went there for accounting, became an accountant -- so, ironically, he really could have gone anywhere. I would not encourage any student to apply to a private college and operate under the assumption that they will get enough money. I would tell them to do so only as a "Well, let's see." Most don't give merit scholarships at all. A free ride from MIT means that your family's income is so low the family contribution is zero. 100% need met policy means that they will offer financial aid to meet the difference between the family contribution and the cost of the school (including housing). Now many families may disagree with their ability to pay the expected family contribution - and as twinsmomfla99 pointed out there may be other schools that offer significant packages that will exceed the amount an elite school will offer as they do NOT offer merit scholarships. I am curious what kind of package I would have been offered at some of these other large state universities in other states - I didn't apply to any out of state public school and the California system in the 90s definitely didn't offer much merit money - or they didn't offer it to me. Most of the private universities offered packages that made attending less expensive than staying in California and attending even CalPoly (which was cheaper than the UCs). But my family contribution wasn't zero, and I did leave college with loans (modest in size and fully repaid within 5 years). I think it's certainly evolved in twenty years. When I went to school, there wasn't much aid for middle class families (typical of many things - make too much to qualify for aid, but not exactly rolling in the dough enough to fully pay for college or a significant chunk of it). I think the aid packages have expanded since then.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Feb 19, 2017 14:24:13 GMT
I haven't read the thread. Just popping in to mention that this trend of applying to 15-20 colleges (because "selectivity" is now the holy grail) has wreaked havoc for the counselor departments of the higher-income high schools I work at. Their workload during application season is out of control.
And the emphasis on selectivity means that kids are applying to too many "reach" schools, which results in what? ...those schools being able to publicize stats about how much MORE selective they've become.
[btw: I told my kids, for merit aid reasons, that they should apply to schools where they would be in the top 25% of accepted students. Most of their friends were being told to accept the offer of the most selective school that would accept them. (And yes, there were a lot of rejection letters.) And now, 4-6 years later, the loan payments have started and some of these kids are financially overwhelmed.]
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Post by Legacy Girl on Feb 19, 2017 19:49:55 GMT
Back in the 80s...I visited many schools, but none seemed to be the right fit. When I found my school and fell in love with it, I knew it was where I was meant to be. I applied early decision and was accepted in December of my senior year of high school. Loved every minute of it and never regretted only applying to one school.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 19, 2017 20:14:11 GMT
I haven't read the thread. Just popping in to mention that this trend of applying to 15-20 colleges (because "selectivity" is now the holy grail) has wreaked havoc for the counselor departments of the higher-income high schools I work at. Their workload during application season is out of control. And the emphasis on selectivity means that kids are applying to too many "reach" schools, which results in what? ...those schools being able to publicize stats about how much MORE selective they've become.
[btw: I told my kids, for merit aid reasons, that they should apply to schools where they would be in the top 25% of accepted students. Most of their friends were being told to accept the offer of the most selective school that would accept them. (And yes, there were a lot of rejection letters.) And now, 4-6 years later, the loan payments have started and some of these kids are financially overwhelmed.] yes, yes, yes!!!! We have had several conversation about how applying to a large number schools is completely skewing the acceptance rate statistics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 4:10:09 GMT
SUNY Geneseo was the only school out of the 4 I applied to in 1987 that didn't accept me. I ended up at SUNY Oswego and had a blast!!! Hey fellow Laker! I graduated from Oswego in 87. I kept your seat in Hewitt Union warm for you! I visited with DS back in 2012 for the first time since I graduated when he was doing college visits. Parts of the campus really changed--especially the new union/student center/hockey rink. And downtown, the travesty of Bucklands being torn down for a McDonalds. All the poor Oswego kids that never got doused by a beer dumped from the balcony while they were on the dance floor. I took my kids down to water street and showed them Old City Hall, where Mom spent entirely too much time on the weekends 😂. DS (now a sr) chose Geneseo. DH went there as well. Ugh. I know! Makes me sick every time I'm there! I frequented the Gamma parties but didn't eat the fruit in their famous punch, the one piece of advice I listened too Good times though. I could rely go for a sub from the sub shop!
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