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Post by pierkiss on Feb 28, 2017 22:01:06 GMT
What!?!?? Take that money and invest it!
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Post by elaine on Feb 28, 2017 22:06:49 GMT
Is LLR truly MLM, like other companies with upline and downline? Just curious. I know one of the nurses I work with had a LLR party. Otherwise, I would only know about it from here and FB. On FB, I think I found out about it first in my sewing groups when people were looking to copy the looks. It doesn't take much. They use very simple patterns. No, no upline and downline. No "supervisor" making money off of consultants she signs up. Wrong on my part! Sorry!
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Post by justkaren on Feb 28, 2017 22:32:04 GMT
Is LLR truly MLM, like other companies with upline and downline? Just curious. I know one of the nurses I work with had a LLR party. Otherwise, I would only know about it from here and FB. On FB, I think I found out about it first in my sewing groups when people were looking to copy the looks. It doesn't take much. They use very simple patterns. No, no upline and downline. No "supervisor" making money off of consultants she signs up. There is most definitely a downline and the top person making money off those below her. See Page 16 of the LLR becoming a consultant.....
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Post by elaine on Feb 28, 2017 22:40:57 GMT
Sorry for the misinformation - I had an acquaintance who is a consultant tell me there wasn't. Clearly, I am wrong!
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Post by myshelly on Feb 28, 2017 22:44:01 GMT
Sorry for the misinformation - I had an acquaintance who is a consultant tell me there wasn't. Clearly, I am wrong! I am not a consultant. But I am in several FB groups for consultants/about becoming a consultant. There is some kind of upline status. It doesn't work the same as most MLMs (as in the upline does not get commission off downline sales), but it is my understanding there is a one time payment bonus for getting someone to sign up underneath you. And they do use the terms upline/downline.
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Post by justkaren on Feb 28, 2017 22:49:53 GMT
Sorry for the misinformation - I had an acquaintance who is a consultant tell me there wasn't. Clearly, I am wrong! lol.. I am thinking it isn't discussed as much as other MLMs. Based on the compensation, I think in the case of LLR, the majority of the $ is currently made by being the consultant and not the "Sponsor" or "Trainer" that sits on top, unlike other MLM that have been in business for tons of years. In a couple years if LLR is still *hot*, this may very well change! With that said, I have bought from one consultant who CONSTANTLY live feeds/videos with discussions on how great it is to be a LLR consultant and how shes bought a house, cars, etc during her one year in business, etc. And then it ends with - contact me if you're interested! And she will also always link to her "girls" when the have sales, etc.
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Post by nepean on Feb 28, 2017 23:16:05 GMT
Thank you for your quick answers. I was hoping I had somehow read wrong, or was confused or mistaken. Someone I know has just advertised becoming a new consultant. I literally just bought her & her family toilet paper (among other things) last month because she couldn't afford it. I'm guessing she used their tax refund to pay for the start-up kit. I'm kind of heart-broken for their kids, and now really hoping she does exceedingly well in a very over-saturated market. Thanks again for your quick answers. Love you, peas. See that would totally piss me off! I can see on one hand, that she is attempting to bring in an income to her family and I acknowledge that and good for her. BUT. On the other hand she could have set aside $1000 of the tax refund - assuming this WAS funded from a tax refund to cover emergencies. If she went into debt to do this then she is a fool!!! I love to help people when they need it, and I have done so many many times, but I will say that I am easily jaded by this kind of behaviour. People need to learn to act responsibly. My DH and I have worked for many years, often long hours, and we choose to make grown up decisions that we sometimes don't like because we didn't have the money at the time. We denied ourselves our wants, so we had our needs. Heck! we STILL do this. It really pisses me off when people make poor choices, then put their hand out. Now of course there are situations that occur that just suck, and life happens through no fault of their own, that is entirely different. I am mostly a stay at home Mom, I work 2 days a week at my kids school. So I have school breaks off with my kids. My family has made sacrifices for me to stay home with the kids, and with DHs' work and travel schedule it just makes sense for us. I have one friend and almost every break, she is asking (hear...expecting) me to watch her kids while her and her DH are at work. They never came fed, so I was feeding them breakfast, lunch, snacks, and sometimes even dinner. I have done it a lot, but I am now burned and at the point that she will now be hearing the word, NO! She never pays me to watch the kids, she does say thank you, but there is never even a small gift card as a thank you. Then, they head off on a week long cruise.....Must be nice! Two incomes, no childcare costs, nice family cruise. I am refuse to assist in this any longer. Call me selfish, but we always had to pay for childcare, and never expect/ed freebies. Sorry for the rant.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Feb 28, 2017 23:24:14 GMT
Thank you for your quick answers. I was hoping I had somehow read wrong, or was confused or mistaken. Someone I know has just advertised becoming a new consultant. I literally just bought her & her family toilet paper (among other things) last month because she couldn't afford it. I'm guessing she used their tax refund to pay for the start-up kit.
I'm kind of heart-broken for their kids, and now really hoping she does exceedingly well in a very over-saturated market. Thanks again for your quick answers. Love you, peas. HOWEVER, isn't a good thing she's trying to start a business with that money to work and be self sufficient instead of buying tattoos, an iphone and manicures??? Although, I did JUST read that luluroe is in the middle of a class action suit for charging sales tax in areas that don't tax clothes. Also, the quality apparently is going downhill right now. I am truly hoping she is incredibly successful, and that this is lucrative for her. And I wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise, but since you brought it up..... we can check "yes" on her having manicures, an iphone, and multiple tattoos (that I can see). One still fresh pink from just being done, and pic posted on FB. But for her kids, I want this to work for her so bad.
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Post by CeeScraps on Feb 28, 2017 23:27:34 GMT
Here's my guess with what will occur over time with LLR........
1. People will look back at photos and say....Did I really wear those? No, it's not all of them, but from what I see quite a few. 2. There will be an ugly LLR day at work or an ugly LLR parties will crop up (think ugly Christmas sweaters). 3. There will be ugly LLR fun runs!
Just my predictions.......
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Post by KikiPea on Feb 28, 2017 23:29:14 GMT
No thanks! I think it's ridiculous.
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Post by rickmer on Mar 1, 2017 0:25:30 GMT
i have never heard of it. other than seeing threads here and having no clue what it is. are they affiliated with lulu lemon for the home party crowd??
i guess i could see people wearing them but don't even realize it...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 0:26:09 GMT
That's the kicker - I think if you got in it early, you probably did great.. but dear god I CRINGE when I see LuLaRoe... no more! NO MORE! LOL I think most of their outfits are ugly. There's a vendor show coming up that my cousin keeps bugging me to do. I saw the list of people and there's 3 lularoe people. It seems like everyone I know has a consultant and none of them are the same person. It's nuts. Most of it is ugly.. I agree. My friend and I sold crafts at a craft and vendor sale so my MIL stopped by to support us. She LOVES clothes so I asked her if she checked out the LuLaRoe booth and she went on about how shocked she was to find out the clothes were for sale. She honestly thought the booth was there to collect old clothing for charity. She could not believe people actually wear the stuff, but she is sort of a fancy lady. haha At a different craft and vendor show, I stopped by thinking I would buy daughter (size 0-2) something. As soon as the sales person saw my figure, she came over and tried to very sweetly direct me away from the display. I was mortified.
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Post by elaine on Mar 1, 2017 0:33:22 GMT
I think most of their outfits are ugly. There's a vendor show coming up that my cousin keeps bugging me to do. I saw the list of people and there's 3 lularoe people. It seems like everyone I know has a consultant and none of them are the same person. It's nuts. Most of it is ugly.. I agree. My friend and I sold crafts at a craft and vendor sale so my MIL stopped by to support us. She LOVES clothes so I asked her if she checked out the LuLaRoe booth and she went on about how shocked she was to find out the clothes were for sale. She honestly thought the booth was there to collect old clothing for charity. She could not believe people actually wear the stuff, but she is sort of a fancy lady. haha At a different craft and vendor show, I stopped by thinking I would buy daughter (size 0-2) something. As soon as the sales person saw my figure, she came over and tried to very sweetly direct me away from the display. I was mortified.That is difficult to believe. Lularoe has a ton of clothing for plus-sized people. They are one of the few brands out there who consistently use larger plus-sized models in their advertising photos. It is actually more suited for larger women, IMO, than the 0-2 set. And a lot of it looks good on plus-sized women. That some women don't like the style, I completely understand. I just have a hard time believing that a consultant would have turned you away because of your size. You would have/could have been a gold mine for their line if you are larger than a typical L-XL (how I'm reading your post). Your daughter, not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 0:40:54 GMT
Most of it is ugly.. I agree. My friend and I sold crafts at a craft and vendor sale so my MIL stopped by to support us. She LOVES clothes so I asked her if she checked out the LuLaRoe booth and she went on about how shocked she was to find out the clothes were for sale. She honestly thought the booth was there to collect old clothing for charity. She could not believe people actually wear the stuff, but she is sort of a fancy lady. haha At a different craft and vendor show, I stopped by thinking I would buy daughter (size 0-2) something. As soon as the sales person saw my figure, she came over and tried to very sweetly direct me away from the display. I was mortified.That is difficult to believe. Lularoe has a ton of clothing for plus-sized people. They are one of the few brands out there who consistently use larger plus-sized models in their advertising photos. It is actually more suited for larger women, IMO, than the 0-2 set. And a lot of it looks good on plus-sized women. That some women don't like the style, I completely understand. I just have a hard time believing that a consultant would have turned you away because of your size. You would have/could have been a gold mine for their line if you are larger than a typical L-XL (how I'm reading your post). Your daughter, not so much. oh, she did not kick me out of the booth completely!! She just did not give me a second to explain what I was looking for and sweetly tried to usher me away from the display she had in the front. She was probably just overly excited to be of service to me..but I felt horrible!! I would not be caught dead in their stuff but was shopping for someone much younger/cuter than myself.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Mar 1, 2017 1:03:16 GMT
I'd rather use all that money on clothes and handbags for myself...then again MLM isn't my thing and I'm no salesperson so if they can't make that money back and then some more great!
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Post by LiLi on Mar 1, 2017 1:17:08 GMT
I was so excited about the randy shirts and bought quite a few. It's been less then a year, maybe 3-5 wears each. I follow washing instructions and lay flat to dry. Yet, every single one of them is pilling. What a waste of money
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Post by Merge on Mar 1, 2017 1:25:14 GMT
You can get similar styles on Amazon for a fraction of the price, and without the hassle of stalking people's FB to find what you want/like. I predict all those consultants are left holding a bunch of unsellable merchandise in less than a year.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Mar 1, 2017 2:02:43 GMT
I think lularoe is absolutely hideous. I can't imagine paying that much for a MLM that will be outta style as quickly as it (sadly) became a style.
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Post by Prenticekid on Mar 1, 2017 2:30:56 GMT
Thank you for your quick answers. I was hoping I had somehow read wrong, or was confused or mistaken. Someone I know has just advertised becoming a new consultant. I literally just bought her & her family toilet paper (among other things) last month because she couldn't afford it. I'm guessing she used their tax refund to pay for the start-up kit. I'm kind of heart-broken for their kids, and now really hoping she does exceedingly well in a very over-saturated market. Thanks again for your quick answers. Love you, peas. It is unlikely that she used a tax refund. LLR keeps new consultants on the ropes for weeks or months before letting them but in. A month ago, she would have been in the que. It would have been luck to get the call and the refund at the same time. Consultants are taught/encouraged to take out loans and use credit cards to pay the fee. They then have to keep buying new inventory to pay off the loans and credit cards.
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 1, 2017 2:42:36 GMT
Last month I went with a friend to a big multi-consultant sale set up in the gym of a local elementary school. It was kinda bizarre, stepping inside this gym that had become a huge Lula-world where everyone inside was wearing hideous leggings but I digress... When looking at a display of dresses I overheard a customer ask a consultant about the start up costs. The consultant said "The lowest is ten thousand, but I made that back in two months!" Shocked and horrified I googled when I got home and saw the same $5,000+ minimum to sign up. I cannot even imagine. People have got to be putting this on credit cards.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Mar 1, 2017 2:59:27 GMT
someone I know just recently became a consultant. She went with the 10K starter set but had to spend additional money for leggings and a few other pieces. Then there were the clothing racks to hold everything; the hangers, the signage, the packaging etc. Im guessing she actually spent about 15K if not more. She said that her upline said it would take a minimum of 6 months to break even and she is a tad bit stressed about that part. She seems to be doing well even though she isn't really selling online like most consultants seem to be. That said, the first time I saw LLR, I hated it. I felt the same as many have stated here. Then I got a pair of leggings and a monster was born. I wear LLR to work every day right now under a business casual type setting. I have gotten so many compliments on what I wear. Ive been stopped by people not even in our group to ask me where I get my skirts/shirts etc. (i wear longer skirts with high boots so many of my awesome leggings are concealed ) I am not a skinny good looking girl either. Im just picky about what I wear and what I buy. I have had a couple pieces pill up out of the blue but for the most part everything looks like I bought it yesterday. I have had problems with clothing from a regular store too so I don't feel like either one is better. All I know is Im comfortable in it and I like it.
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Post by k8smom on Mar 1, 2017 3:22:50 GMT
I have a friend from high school who just became a consultant and she confirmed everything that's been said in this thread. (Start up costs, lack of selection, market over saturation, cost). She's my age (55) and added me to her FB Luluroe page and I deleted myself. She added me back and I deleted myself again but this time I chose the option that keeps her from adding me again, so she called me. I told her the following and she was a tad offended: - I'm fat. Leggings are not a friend of cellulite.
- I'm cheap, there's no way I'm paying that much $ for leggings to wear around the house.
- I loathe the patterns... who is designing these leggings and what is the demographic?
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Post by AmandaA on Mar 1, 2017 3:32:55 GMT
elaine was correct above about sizing for a 0-2... it just doesn't work with LLR. A few tops will fit, but as far as leggings go it is a bust. OS are too big and the "tween" are too short (like capri length) if you are much over 5ft tall. It has been a good thing for my wallet and an easy out for party invites.
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 1, 2017 3:44:00 GMT
Whoa that is a huge amount for start up... ..I have 3 pieces I have bought and like them all. I don't wear them too much though. One outfit matches my football team, Denver Broncos, so I have a maxi skirt and top that are those colors.. (top is plain and the skirt is orange/blue) Very fun to wear on Bronco days. The other top is black/red pattern and looks good with a plain black maxi skirt.. (it is for summer).. otherwise I am good with what I have bought. The leggings don't fit me and I wouldn't buy a busy pattern unless it was just for home.. but they don't fit (I'm plus and tall, and they are just to short for me) and I wouldn't wear a crazy pattern on my legs!! Yikes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 4:04:12 GMT
Here's my guess with what will occur over time with LLR........ 1. People will look back at photos and say....Did I really wear those? No, it's not all of them, but from what I see quite a few. 2. There will be an ugly LLR day at work or an ugly LLR parties will crop up (think ugly Christmas sweaters). 3. There will be ugly LLR fun runs! Just my predictions....... I don't have any personal experience w/them, just see them as a name on this board sometimes in a thread title. So I decided to do some google image searching. Not my style. Do people really wear them like this? Also came across quite a few "lessons learned" type blog posts - like this one: thirtysomethingmomcom.wordpress.com/2016/05/20/first-blog-post/
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Mar 1, 2017 4:07:06 GMT
Wow! I cannot believe people pay that much to be a consultant - that might be where the owners are making the real money!
I heard the hype about how wonderful the leggings are on Facebook and was intrigued. I bought one pair to check them out. My consultant included a scratch-off card in the order, and I won a free pair of leggings. I emailed her to see if it was legit and she said yes. So, I got my free pair, and while I was choosing that pair, I realized I could get a plain black pair, which I had not seen in the first order. So, I have three pairs. I don't wear the patterned ones outside of the house much, except maybe to the mailbox - but I wear them several times a week, as soon as I get home, I put them on. They are the softest, most comfortable pants I have EVER had! I love them. They are great for my body type with a long tunic top (I didn't find any LulaRoe tops that I liked, so I just wear tops I have). I am an apple shape with most of my weight in my tummy - and have relatively skinny legs compared to my upper body, so they are flattering on me. So, so soft and comfortable! But, I'd never pay that much to be a consultant!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 1, 2017 4:37:46 GMT
Most of it is ugly.. I agree. My friend and I sold crafts at a craft and vendor sale so my MIL stopped by to support us. She LOVES clothes so I asked her if she checked out the LuLaRoe booth and she went on about how shocked she was to find out the clothes were for sale. She honestly thought the booth was there to collect old clothing for charity. She could not believe people actually wear the stuff, but she is sort of a fancy lady. haha At a different craft and vendor show, I stopped by thinking I would buy daughter (size 0-2) something. As soon as the sales person saw my figure, she came over and tried to very sweetly direct me away from the display. I was mortified.That is difficult to believe. Lularoe has a ton of clothing for plus-sized people. They are one of the few brands out there who consistently use larger plus-sized models in their advertising photos. It is actually more suited for larger women, IMO, than the 0-2 set. And a lot of it looks good on plus-sized women. That some women don't like the style, I completely understand. I just have a hard time believing that a consultant would have turned you away because of your size. You would have/could have been a gold mine for their line if you are larger than a typical L-XL (how I'm reading your post). Your daughter, not so much. This is what my plus size friends that like LLR say too. One friend is easily a size 26-28 and she has 5-6 pairs of the leggings and she loves them.
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Post by sean&marysmommy on Mar 1, 2017 5:09:39 GMT
One of my best friends is a consultant, and she wears all kinds of crazy combos...but she's kind of a free-spirit, bohemian chick and somehow it works on her. I mean, if I focus on the outfit, I'll think "wow, that's nuts..." but I always think my friend looks great. lol
She's always trying to get me interested, but it's just not for me. I don't like big, bold patterns on my shirts, and I don't wear leggings outside of the house unless I'm exercising, so it's a no-go. However, I do have a few things she's given my toddler (two leggings and a dress) and they are adorable on her.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Mar 1, 2017 11:28:55 GMT
I live in a small midwest town and there are a TON of consultants here. Just recently I have noticed an increase in unwanted LLR being posted on the FB sale boards. People who got caught up in the craze or felt obligated to buy from a friend, and are now getting rid of them below retail.
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Post by Merge on Mar 1, 2017 11:47:25 GMT
Here's my guess with what will occur over time with LLR........ 1. People will look back at photos and say....Did I really wear those? No, it's not all of them, but from what I see quite a few. 2. There will be an ugly LLR day at work or an ugly LLR parties will crop up (think ugly Christmas sweaters). 3. There will be ugly LLR fun runs! Just my predictions....... I don't have any personal experience w/them, just see them as a name on this board sometimes in a thread title. So I decided to do some google image searching. Not my style. Do people really wear them like this? Also came across quite a few "lessons learned" type blog posts - like this one: thirtysomethingmomcom.wordpress.com/2016/05/20/first-blog-post/Yikes. Honestly I've never seen anyone mix patterns like that. I love my patterned leggings, but I wear them with long, flowy tunic tops and cardigans in solid colors. I also don't wear LLR as I mentioned above - there are plenty of "buttery" leggings available for lower prices from other retailers, even in plus sizes. They are very popular with the teachers at my school.
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