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Post by mikewozowski on May 9, 2017 18:55:59 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals?
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Post by jenis40 on May 9, 2017 19:10:55 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? Well we've had multiple congressional and independent investigations on hers so I would say we already know. Can you say the same for the Russian interference investigations?
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on May 9, 2017 19:27:00 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? Well we've had multiple congressional and independent investigations on hers so I would say we already know. Can you say the same for the Russian interference investigations? In all fairness, even with the investigations I don't think we know probably know the full truth - simply due to the nature of the situation - many people involved, confidentiality/security issues etc - just the same as hundreds of other similar situations over the course of history.
While I have no intention of disrespecting the lives lost in Benghazi, I think the current situation is so far-reaching, and has such huge world safety ramifications, that it's crucial to get to the bottom of it yesterday/last year. if that makes sense?
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Post by flanz on May 9, 2017 19:32:14 GMT
It takes time for investigations like this. Anything released early could jeopardize the case. The purpose at this stage is to prove the need for an independent investigation and prosecutor. It took 18 months for Watergate to break. This is so much bigger and so much worse. It needs to be done right. Give it time. You're right. I just wish I had a bit more patience, lol. I also wish I had confidence in the investigators. If these investigations are being run by Republicans in the House and Senate.... what's the point? An independent, outside investigation is needed! And don't get me started on the FBI. Comey "needed" to tell the world about the NOTHING in the 30K Clinton emails... and felt no compulsion to tell us that Trump was being investigated for ties with Russia!!! GRRR!
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Post by jenis40 on May 9, 2017 19:37:52 GMT
Well we've had multiple congressional and independent investigations on hers so I would say we already know. Can you say the same for the Russian interference investigations? In all fairness, even with the investigations I don't think we know probably know the full truth - simply due to the nature of the situation - many people involved, confidentiality/security issues etc - just the same as hundreds of other similar situations over the course of history.
While I have no intention of disrespecting the lives lost in Benghazi, I think the current situation is so far-reaching, and has such huge world safety ramifications, that it's crucial to get to the bottom of it yesterday/last year. if that makes sense?
I don't quite follow you here. Are you saying there are classified evidence in the case of HRC so we'll never know the whole story? But in the case of the Russian investigations we should?
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Post by inkedup on May 9, 2017 19:53:24 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? So you are more concerned about the actions of a failed presidential candidate than you are about whether or not the active, sitting President is in cahoots with Russia? We're wasting our breath. Doesn't matter what Trump and co do....some people will always think that what Hillary did is worse.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on May 9, 2017 20:23:31 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? So you are more concerned about the actions of a failed presidential candidate than you are about whether or not the active, sitting President is in cahoots with Russia? We're wasting our breath. Doesn't matter what Trump and co do....some people will always think that what Hillary did is worse. Because it was worse. After all, she had e-mails.
If there was treason in the Trump campaign, it was only minimal treason. How does that even begin to compare with a private e-mail server? In fact, since the amount of treason was so obviously minimal and the risks to our country so negligible, why bother investigating it at all? Instead, we should totally start a 9th Benghazi inquiry and sort through those e-mails again, just to make sure we didn't miss anything. You wouldn't want to risk a losing presidential candidate who used to be Secretary of State being allowed to continue these things, would you? /s for anyone who wasn't sure.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 9, 2017 20:54:02 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? Atta boy-deflect! 🙄
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Post by lucyg on May 9, 2017 21:51:25 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? What "many" scandals are you talking about? Please include only actual scandals, not the bullsh*t made-up ones spread by Republican operatives.
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Post by hollymolly on May 9, 2017 21:56:56 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? What "many" scandals are you talking about? Please include only actual scandals, not the bullsh*t made-up ones spread by Republican operatives. Did you mean Russian operatives? But I guess that's pretty much what you said.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on May 9, 2017 22:34:03 GMT
In all fairness, even with the investigations I don't think we know probably know the full truth - simply due to the nature of the situation - many people involved, confidentiality/security issues etc - just the same as hundreds of other similar situations over the course of history.
While I have no intention of disrespecting the lives lost in Benghazi, I think the current situation is so far-reaching, and has such huge world safety ramifications, that it's crucial to get to the bottom of it yesterday/last year. if that makes sense?
I don't quite follow you here. Are you saying there are classified evidence in the case of HRC so we'll never know the whole story? But in the case of the Russian investigations we should? No. Not at all and I apologize if I came across that way. I was simply using "classified information" as one of the reasons we won't hear the "full" truth, in both situations as well as any others that may arise.
When stuff like this goes down, there are going to be so many different angles and perceptions, even by the people who were there at the scene or involved in some other way. It's well-known that eyewitness statements can vary significantly from one witness to the next. It's human nature. Add in the whole military/government/security/whatever-else-hoopla and I doubt even the people who are/were directly involved know the full truth. Every good criminal knows that the best way to beat the rap is to keep their cronies in the dark about the other cronies.
I didn't/don't object to the Clinton e-mail investigation, although I do admit I am tired of hearing about it. But right now I'm afraid for the sanctity of our country and, frankly, the safety of our world. The thoughts of what could be in our (nearer than we expect) future are daunting, in large part due to the Trump/Russia potential connections. I feel quite strongly that it needs to continue to be investigated - especially now with the firing of Comey - although I truly fear that it's too late.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on May 9, 2017 23:04:56 GMT
will we ever know the real truth about hillary and her many scandals? Holy FUCK!!! Do we have to remind once again that HILLARY ISN'T the fucking President! This has NOTHING to do with her. But keep trying to spin it... Trump supporters have NO DEFENCE left for this idiot they elected and this is how they respond again and again ad nauseum. Sick of it.
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