uksue
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Post by uksue on Jun 6, 2017 13:54:04 GMT
I try hard to find at least one thing Trump does right each day. Yesterday, for example, he did put his pants on appropriately. The day before, he did not pick his nose while in view of the cameras. The day before that, he did not grab anyone's pussy (AFAIK - maybe it just wasn't reported). Unfortunately, the things he manages to do right are vastly overshadowed by the things he manages to get woefully, horrifically wrong. Even if you totally agree with his viewpoints - we need to repeal Obamacare, ban Muslims and build a wall - it must be at least a little disappointing that he is just so damn bad at getting things done. Inexperience, incompetence, and a general lack of understanding of how things are done properly seem to be his weaknesses. The ACA repeal - well, they can't seem to get enough people on board to do it properly and there has been a huge outrage at the number of people who will lose their care. The AARP has gotten in on it, and old people tend to vote and have lots of time to call up their representatives and yell at them. Their replacement is going to increase premiums up to 800% for some older folks, and shockingly, they aren't happy about that. The Muslim ban - first it was a ban, then it wasn't. Then the courts said a ban isn't constitutional, and it became not a ban again. But then the tweets started up saying "its a ban! Let's not be politically correct, it's a ban! It's totally a ban!" Which doesn't help him one bit in the courts. The wall - no budget for it in Congress. The Mexicans aren't paying for it. The wall hasn't been built. Yeah, I know, there was that little news piece on the wall being started - but that was a wall that has been there for years, not a new wall. The thing is that for that sort of project, there are lots of moving pieces. It's not so easy as "here's the money, let's start building." First you have to convince people to budget the money - it's going to be an uphill battle to cut the amount of programs necessary to fund the wall without a tax hike. Oh....but he wants to cut a bunch of taxes too. Second, if you manage to get the funding, you need to do the planning - although when has a lack of planning ever stopped Trump from doing something? Third, once you've done the planning and got the budget, you still need to get the land to build the wall on. The Native Americans on the border reservations aren't going to allow it. The people in Texas on the border don't want it - and I have a feeling they WILL attempt to protect their land. That will mean going to court, or taking it by force. No matter how much people in Texas may support the GOP, how many will support an effort to take their neighbor's land at gunpoint? Most of them will figure out that if they can take one person's land by force, there's nothing stopping them from taking THEIR land by force. I guess if you're a Trump supporter, this isn't concerning at all. Because he probably has some 5D chess moves lined up and we just can't understand his methods because we aren't smart enough. You know what I find astounding? The people who are willing to throw away their honor and integrity to defend a man who is unworthy. The guy lies - we have it on camera and he admits that he has a malleable relationship with the truth - but people whose careers depend on their own credibility are willing to throw that away to defend this person. Why? If I had an employee, a friend, a family member who did the things Trump does, I would not be willing to cosign a loan or speak on their behalf because I know that they have not earned that trust. And it's my credibility on the line when they lie again, since I'm the one who vouched for them. The wall- totally unattainable in my opinion. Either trillions is going to have to be spent to compensate landowners along the preferred route , or he takes the 'cheaper' but Ecologically disastrous route of taking it through areas of outstanding natural beauty. Of course we all know he gives no thought whatsoever to Ecological matters so that's the route he will probably take if he does go for this stupid wall.
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Post by dulcemama on Jun 6, 2017 13:56:29 GMT
This is exactly what I am continually shaking my head over. I don't understand why Republicans aren't standing up against this in droves. They aren't saving the party by this unswerving loyalty. They're giving it a horrible reputation. I don't understand how they don't see that.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jun 6, 2017 13:57:48 GMT
Trump tweeting against Qatar while we have an active US military base there is mind boggling.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Jun 6, 2017 14:32:28 GMT
Politics ain't for pussies! I love how the liberals put up with 8 years of the conservative pea bullshit but after 4 months of Trump most of them have left the kitchen because they can't take the heat. Buh Bye
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Sarah*H
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Post by Sarah*H on Jun 6, 2017 15:11:24 GMT
Now we can add a new one - encouraging countries in the middle east to cut off Qatar which happens to be the location of US Central Command. Security, schmecurity.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 6, 2017 15:37:16 GMT
Politics ain't for pussies! I love how the liberals put up with 8 years of the conservative pea bullshit but after 4 months of Trump most of them have left the kitchen because they can't take the heat. Buh Bye Ha ha!! Lol!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 15:38:22 GMT
Now we can add a new one - encouraging countries in the middle east to cut off Qatar which happens to be the location of US Central Command. Security, schmecurity. And Britain shares that base with them!
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jun 6, 2017 15:41:17 GMT
Now we can add a new one - encouraging countries in the middle east to cut off Qatar which happens to be the location of US Central Command. Security, schmecurity. Makes me laugh that Saudi is there with bells on cutting ties with Qatar because of terrorist activities...ho ho..the hypocrisy and irony there is astounding!
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 6, 2017 16:23:22 GMT
Gee...I wonder how this poll will end? On this board, today? What a surprise. LOL (didn't vote for the record...why bother?) I guess I don't really understand the reasoning behind this comment, although no reasoning is needed.  It is certainly your right to vote, not vote, read a thread/post or not, and respond to a post/thread or not. If you are going to take the time to read the thread and post why would you not vote? It seems strange to instead only make a sarcastic remark about what type of people are here. "Why bother?"...then why bother responding to anything? You have been here a long time and there obviously has to be something that you like about the community or why would you stay? IMO it just seems strange to comment about a poll but not vote because you feel your vote is not the popular one. If everyone who picks that answer has that same response you certainly won't be truly represented in the poll.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 6, 2017 18:12:00 GMT
Now we can add a new one - encouraging countries in the middle east to cut off Qatar which happens to be the location of US Central Command. Security, schmecurity. It is actually mind boggling. If safety was a concern for Trump he would have banned Saudi's from traveling here. Oh and white dudes who own guns. Let's deport them!
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 6, 2017 18:15:44 GMT
And it must be exhausting to focus and find fault with every breath Trump takes. Oh my goodness. What I would give not to! I remember Bush 43's presidency. I was so disheartened by the many things he did, including a war we should not have been in, but holy moly!!! I'd prefer him a million times over. I'm NOT trying to find fault in what Trump does and I am not one to believe that the majority of Americans should choose what they want for the country (please refer to slavery, prohibition, women's rights, etc.); however, Trump crosses the line daily and an overwhelming majority of people, Republicans and Democrats alike agree with specific. We're not out to get him!! We're out to save what's left of our Republic! He does NOT know what he's doing and it is NOT good for our country that he does not. Of course this poll is going to show that educated Americans understand that noneducated, angry people react angrily. This. And because pretty much everything he does scares the ever-loving **** out of me. I've been saying it since before the election - the US will never be the same.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 6, 2017 18:16:26 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit BAZINGA
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jun 6, 2017 18:34:15 GMT
Gee...I wonder how this poll will end? On this board, today? What a surprise. LOL (didn't vote for the record...why bother?) I guess I don't really understand the reasoning behind this comment, although no reasoning is needed.  It is certainly your right to vote, not vote, read a thread/post or not, and respond to a post/thread or not. If you are going to take the time to read the thread and post why would you not vote? It seems strange to instead only make a sarcastic remark about what type of people are here. "Why bother?"...then why bother responding to anything? You have been here a long time and there obviously has to be something that you like about the community or why would you stay? IMO it just seems strange to comment about a poll but not vote because you feel your vote is not the popular one. If everyone who picks that answer has that same response you certainly won't be truly represented in the poll. It's hard to be a martyr if you don't let people know about it.
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Post by LiLi on Jun 6, 2017 19:17:00 GMT
It must be so disheartening constantly trying to defend the indefensible. And it must be exhausting to focus and find fault with every breath Trump takes. Â I would say it is fairly easy to see the faults. Takes no focus or effort at all, the faults are blaring on the surface. To ignore them? Sheesh. Unless you're blind, deaf and living on a deserted island... Completely, exhausting pretending that shit is okay in your head.
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Post by mnmloveli on Jun 6, 2017 23:51:26 GMT
It must be so disheartening constantly trying to defend the indefensible. And it must be exhausting to focus and find fault with every breath Trump takes. Â They're so exhausted, they've all driven themselves crazy ! Love to watch and listen to them rant. LMAO
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Post by mnmloveli on Jun 6, 2017 23:56:02 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 23:59:54 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out ! And what money would that be?
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jun 7, 2017 0:08:09 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out ! Doling out to whom? Oh yeah..the Saudis and Russians. My bad.
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Post by lisae on Jun 7, 2017 0:36:43 GMT
I think it is saying that we should 'ban all Muslims' in his speeches. That alienates all Muslims including those with extremist views whether they are wanting to come into our country or are already here. These attacks are perpetrated mostly by people who were born in the country of the attack or have lived in the country for years. They are usually on a watch list. The travel ban not only alienates it does nothing to fix the problem. Putting more resources toward monitoring activities of people on the watch lists is where I think we should be spending our efforts. In other words, Trump, fix our problems at home rather than blaming people who aren't even in this country. But then it is Trump's nature to blame someone else. Taking responsibility for an issue means work and the man is downright lazy.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 7, 2017 1:16:03 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out ! Please tell me you don't think we're doling out money to the Brits? And I hope you have lots and lots of free time for watching/laughing/mocking, because it's only going to get worse over the next 3.5 years or until impeachment, whichever comes first.
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Post by mnmloveli on Jun 7, 2017 1:53:44 GMT
Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out ! Please tell me you don't think we're doling out money to the Brits? And I hope you have lots and lots of free time for watching/laughing/mocking, because it's only going to get worse over the next 3.5 years or until impeachment, whichever comes first. I happen to have lots and lots of time for watching and laughing 😂 I'm enjoying every minute of President Trump annoying all of the haters and bullies.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 7, 2017 2:28:03 GMT
Please tell me you don't think we're doling out money to the Brits? And I hope you have lots and lots of free time for watching/laughing/mocking, because it's only going to get worse over the next 3.5 years or until impeachment, whichever comes first. I happen to have lots and lots of time for watching and laughing 😂 I'm enjoying every minute of President Trump annoying all of the haters and bullies. I'm afraid you don't get to call us bullies (well, I guess you can say whatever you like, but if you want to be taken seriously ... ) without offering some evidence. There may be a bully or two among us, but you're name-calling a whole boatload of undeserving people here. Assuming you're talking about all the Trump haters, which yes, I will most certainly cop to being one of those. He makes it sooooo easy! And while you're here, maybe you can explain when Trump is going to start making America great again. Because so far, all he's done has been to destroy, not create, and when he claims he's making the rest of the world respect us again, well ... the rest of the world just smirks. You can't possibly have not noticed all this going on around us, can you? P.S. as more and more Republicans, conservatives, former supporters turn on him (and they are) ... is it still called hating and bullying? Or is that only when liberals do it?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 7, 2017 2:38:26 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out ! Hallucinating? Delusional much?
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jun 7, 2017 13:16:31 GMT
I happen to have lots and lots of time for watching and laughing 😂 I'm enjoying every minute of President Trump annoying all of the haters and bullies. I'm afraid you don't get to call us bullies (well, I guess you can say whatever you like, but if you want to be taken seriously ... ) without offering some evidence. There may be a bully or two among us, but you're name-calling a whole boatload of undeserving people here. Assuming you're talking about all the Trump haters, which yes, I will most certainly cop to being one of those. He makes it sooooo easy! And while you're here, maybe you can explain when Trump is going to start making America great again. Because so far, all he's done has been to destroy, not create, and when he claims he's making the rest of the world respect us again, well ... the rest of the world just smirks. You can't possibly have not noticed all this going on around us, can you? P.S. as more and more Republicans, conservatives, former supporters turn on him (and they are) ... is it still called hating and bullying? Or is that only when liberals do it? Well said Lucy. She still didn't answer your question about who the US is doling out money to. I am interested to know, cause if the US is giving away money, I will get in line!
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jun 7, 2017 13:56:10 GMT
Now we can add a new one - encouraging countries in the middle east to cut off Qatar which happens to be the location of US Central Command. Security, schmecurity. And Britain shares that base with them! I am ashamed to admit I did not know that- about the US base or that it is shared. My my.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 7, 2017 14:14:55 GMT
- Sadiq Khan on Trump's upcoming state visit Once President Trump stops doling out all the money to countries who say they dont believe in our policies, just watch those red carpets come right back out ! Given that it's a quote from the mayor of London, am I to assume you're under the impression that the US doles out money to the UK?
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Post by used2scrap on Jun 7, 2017 14:17:41 GMT
And Britain shares that base with them! I am ashamed to admit I did not know that- about the US base or that it is shared. My my. I think it's quite possible POTUS had no idea about the base when he started tweeting his anti Qatar rants. He is incredibly dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:27:35 GMT
And Britain shares that base with them! I am ashamed to admit I did not know that- about the US base or that it is shared. My my. The Qatari Airforce is there too. It's used as a base for the US and RAF in the airstrikes on ISIS in Iraq. It was a very strategic base for NATO coalition forces since the Desert Storm days too from what I understand.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 15:25:22 GMT
I'm afraid you don't get to call us bullies (well, I guess you can say whatever you like, but if you want to be taken seriously ... ) without offering some evidence. There may be a bully or two among us, but you're name-calling a whole boatload of undeserving people here. Assuming you're talking about all the Trump haters, which yes, I will most certainly cop to being one of those. He makes it sooooo easy! And while you're here, maybe you can explain when Trump is going to start making America great again. Because so far, all he's done has been to destroy, not create, and when he claims he's making the rest of the world respect us again, well ... the rest of the world just smirks. You can't possibly have not noticed all this going on around us, can you? P.S. as more and more Republicans, conservatives, former supporters turn on him (and they are) ... is it still called hating and bullying? Or is that only when liberals do it? Well said Lucy. She still didn't answer your question about who the US is doling out money to. I am interested to know, cause if the US is giving away money, I will get in line! She can't answer it because it's not true when attached to a statement made by Safiq Khan. The United States spends very little on foreign aid relative to the size of its economy, particularly compared with other rich countries. The U.S. spent about 0.17 percent of its GNI on ODA in 2015. By comparison, Sweden, the top contributor by this metric, gave 1.4 percent of its GNI in overseas development aid that year. The United States ranks among the bottom third of OECD countries, close to Portugal and Slovenia, in ODA spending.  Even without the prospective cuts that she refers to (that Trump is going to make), other countries, including Canada, the United Kingdom and Germany, are paying far more on economic assistance for the world’s poorest people as a share of their economy than the US do.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 7, 2017 15:35:22 GMT
It must be so disheartening constantly trying to defend the indefensible. And it must be exhausting to focus and find fault with every breath Trump takes. Â You're ridiculous.
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