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Post by peachiceteas on Jun 30, 2017 17:28:37 GMT
What? Rewind a second. Tracie Claiborne took money from people/scrapbookers for a medical procedure, and then that procedure was funded by someone or something else? What happened to all of the donated money? God wanted her to keep the money because she is blessed. I hope you're kidding me. If you're not, that woman is more vile than I had ever imagined possible. I would even go as far to say if she kept that donated money... that is beyond disgusting.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 30, 2017 17:32:29 GMT
I truly hope she's learned a lesson. This link just shows a locked pinterest link for me. Any hints?
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 30, 2017 17:37:24 GMT
What? Rewind a second. Tracie Claiborne took money from people/scrapbookers for a medical procedure, and then that procedure was funded by someone or something else? What happened to all of the donated money? There is a wonderfully interesting thread someone can link - I wish I could but can't search for it right now. anyway here is my take on the summation: Tracie purchased a type of insurance coverage that technically met the Affordable Care Act requirement but did not cover medical care that she knew she might or did need. Her pacemaker or some part of it needed to be replaced. She asked the hospital for some fee waiving and they initially said no. So she posted about it in her group and someone suggested where could they donate to help her pay for the procedure or equipment or both. Tracie put up a link to allow people to donate directly to her husband's paypal account. She far exceeded the cost of the medical care in donations. But, because God is good, he influenced or directed the hospital on the day she showed up for surgery to completely waive the cost. I'm not sure she mentioned to the hospital that she had $20K now in donations. So there were no medical costs. Then someone mentioned they also had a medical need (since Tracie did not need the money she got) and Tracie offered to pray for her. Following the large unneeded donation Tracie got a new IPAD and planned a trip someplace and I don't know what all. She also posted pics of all the eating out she was doing - yummy steaks and fabulous desserts. No, the money was not returned to the donors. As far as I know it was not used to augment her free medical care. Because God wanted her to have it.
That's my recollection anyway.
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Post by peachiceteas on Jun 30, 2017 18:00:03 GMT
What? Rewind a second. Tracie Claiborne took money from people/scrapbookers for a medical procedure, and then that procedure was funded by someone or something else? What happened to all of the donated money? There is a wonderfully interesting thread someone can link - I wish I could but can't search for it right now. anyway here is my take on the summation: Tracie purchased a type of insurance coverage that technically met the Affordable Care Act requirement but did not cover medical care that she knew she might or did need. Her pacemaker or some part of it needed to be replaced. She asked the hospital for some fee waiving and they initially said no. So she posted about it in her group and someone suggested where could they donate to help her pay for the procedure or equipment or both. Tracie put up a link to allow people to donate directly to her husband's paypal account. She far exceeded the cost of the medical care in donations. But, because God is good, he influenced or directed the hospital on the day she showed up for surgery to completely waive the cost. I'm not sure she mentioned to the hospital that she had $20K now in donations. So there were no medical costs. Then someone mentioned they also had a medical need (since Tracie did not need the money she got) and Tracie offered to pray for her. Following the large unneeded donation Tracie got a new IPAD and planned a trip someplace and I don't know what all. She also posted pics of all the eating out she was doing - yummy steaks and fabulous desserts. No, the money was not returned to the donors. As far as I know it was not used to augment her free medical care. Because God wanted her to have it.
That's my recollection anyway.
WOW. You have got to kidding me. I wonder if her sponsors are aware of THAT. Evil. I bet there were people who donated who couldn't afford to but did so out of the kindness of their heart. And subsequently she's sat on a free 20,000 dollars. She should have donated every penny raised to a local children's hospital.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 30, 2017 18:08:04 GMT
I truly hope she's learned a lesson. What did I miss? I have no
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Post by cbscrapper on Jun 30, 2017 18:08:43 GMT
I'm curious why the donations went to her husband's account and not her.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 30, 2017 18:09:00 GMT
Let me try a second post. I quoted myboysnme and then my typed response wasn't showing. She pinned this quote on her pinterest board: Forget it enough to get over it, remember it enough so it doesn't happen again. Is the quote showing up for anyone? I copied the URL link and pasted it in my first post. At the bottom of the quote it shows it's pinned on her Pinterest page. Yes, I do follow her on Pinterest. She usually has some good pins.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 30, 2017 18:36:22 GMT
Elle stated that she's never directly sponsored the podcast and that any mention is related to her sponsoring a crop earlier in the year. She also stated that she doesn't have plans to sponsor again in the future. Did you mention the pacemaker donation issue? I was actually very vague. My concern was making unsubstantiated accusations that could come back and harm me in some way. I stated that she has done some questionable things in her personal life recently that took advantage of her business contacts and left it there. I finished off my email by imploring her to do her own research if she was considering longterm support.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 30, 2017 18:42:12 GMT
Wouldn't most people have donated via a credit card or PayPal? So, exactly how hard would it be to return the money? She knows exactly who it came from, right? Login, Payments, Partial Refund, Full Refund... I've never given to a "Go Fund Me" but I doubt people mailed her cash unless someone who personally knows her gave her cash in person. $20,000 is a lot of money. I know people who work full time that don't make that. I would hope she would have the courage and integrity to at least attempt to refund the money since she got a free procedure. Do you think she didn't disclose the $20,000 to the hospital's financial people since she received indigent care (charity)? Generally, don't you have to disclose your bank statements and IRS tax forms to get a decision for indigent care? An account set to accept money via Go Fund Me donations would be "hidden" quite well and not factored into the equation to see if she qualifies for care. The Go Fund Me account amount won't show up on her bank statement nor IRS tax forms. It's free, untaxed money. Right? Untraceable and not required for disclosure??? I'm not a tax lawyer nor a tax accountant so I don't know how all of this works. I'm just wondering if she disclosed this large amount of money to the hospital's financial people prior to their decision to give her indigent care. These are just questions that I'm asking because I don't know how this works. With this said, I am grateful she was able to have her pacemaker replaced and wish her the best of health. Take care of yourself, Tracie. It wasn't a go fund me. It was paypal directly and she insisted she never asked for one red cent while constantly pushing the button she created for direct to paypal donations.
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Post by peachiceteas on Jun 30, 2017 18:42:38 GMT
With this said, I am grateful she was able to have her pacemaker replaced and wish her the best of health. Take care of yourself, Tracie. This. I don't wish people ill health. In an ideal world every single one of us would be healthy and able to live a long life without any medical issues. But I am really surprised nobody is screaming out about how bad this is if she truly has just received 20k for free. It doesn't matter if 20,000 people all donated a dollar. That is money that was donated for her medical condition and if it's not being used for that it should be donated to another worthy cause. Plenty of kids suffering with cancer in this world who NEED that money.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 30, 2017 18:45:34 GMT
With this said, I am grateful she was able to have her pacemaker replaced and wish her the best of health. Take care of yourself, Tracie. This. I don't wish people ill health. In an ideal world every single one of us would be healthy and able to live a long life without any medical issues. But I am really surprised nobody is screaming out about how bad this is if she truly has just received 20k for free. It doesn't matter if 20,000 people all donated a dollar. That is money that was donated for her medical condition and if it's not being used for that it should be donated to another worthy cause. Plenty of kids suffering with cancer in this world who NEED that money. Why is no one screaming? Because she kicks anyone out of her groups who dares to question her. It controls the dialogue and prevents those unaware from connecting the dots or piping up to question her if they start to put it all together. Her own personal cult.
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 30, 2017 18:49:16 GMT
I think she had some out of pocket expenses related to the surgery but it seems after the donations from the scrap gals community, the pacemaker company, discounts from the hospital and doctors it wasn't too much. I do no think she profited from the surgery but it seems what they had to pay is far far far less then what was presented which floated between $40-60K.
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Post by violetfall on Jun 30, 2017 18:54:57 GMT
I'm most upset that she took our money and then she goes online and on her podcast bragging about all that she has - new iphone7, ipad pro, ipad pro pen, new laminating machine, new foil pen, Disney trips, cruises, retreats, restaurant meals constantly.
We pay over $1,600 a month for medical for my family because my husband is self-employed and I am home at the moment with a baby. On top of what we pay, we still have a yearly family deductible in the thousands, co-pays each time we go to the doctor and for prescriptions. I have never asked anyone to pay for my bills and I never will. I would sell what I had in my home including my cell phone and ipad pro (that I don't even own!), furniture, jewelry or apply for a loan or credit card.
I could sympathize a bit more if this was truly an emergency surgery but she knew it was coming so she should have planned for it. If you are paying the bare minimum health coverage then you need to put money away for things like this or get a job where health coverage is provided.
I am appalled that she took advantage of her viewers by asking for donations and then not refunding it all when it wasn't needed. We aren't talking about tens of dollars, we are talking about tens of thousands of dollars! I honestly cannot even listen to the podcast anymore because my opinion of her has tarnished so badly and by association, I don't look at Jen or Tiffany the same way either because they apparently condone her actions.
I hesitated to come on here and write this but I have a feeling a lot of us in the facebook group or listeners of the podcast have an icky feeling over this whole money button thing.
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 30, 2017 19:00:43 GMT
violetfall I can't listen to the podcast anymore either. I think what she did and how she went about it was gross. I'm having a hard time with Tiffany & Jen also. I haven't stopped following them on social media yet but I don't pay attention to their content anymore.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 30, 2017 19:12:26 GMT
I'm most upset that she took our money and then she goes online and on her podcast bragging about all that she has - new iphone7, ipad pro, ipad pro pen, new laminating machine, new foil pen, Disney trips, cruises, retreats, restaurant meals constantly. We pay over $1,600 a month for medical for my family because my husband is self-employed and I am home at the moment with a baby. On top of what we pay, we still have a yearly family deductible in the thousands, co-pays each time we go to the doctor and for prescriptions. I have never asked anyone to pay for my bills and I never will. I would sell what I had in my home including my cell phone and ipad pro (that I don't even own!), furniture, jewelry or apply for a loan or credit card. I could sympathize a bit more if this was truly an emergency surgery but she knew it was coming so she should have planned for it. If you are paying the bare minimum health coverage then you need to put money away for things like this or get a job where health coverage is provided. I am appalled that she took advantage of her viewers by asking for donations and then not refunding it all when it wasn't needed. We aren't talking about tens of dollars, we are talking about tens of thousands of dollars! I honestly cannot even listen to the podcast anymore because my opinion of her has tarnished so badly and by association, I don't look at Jen or Tiffany the same way either because they apparently condone her actions. I hesitated to come on here and write this but I have a feeling a lot of us in the facebook group or listeners of the podcast have an icky feeling over this whole money button thing. Very concisely written. That is how I feel about the situation in a nutshell. She failed to plan and rather than suffer the consequences of that, she took advantage of both sides of the aisle: her customers AND the doctors/hospital. Then she turns around and BRAGS about it. When we received our first baby gift (a huge box of diapers from a distant former coworker of my husband's) I bawled my eyes out. I was appreciative of every single thing people did for us because no one else is required to provide for our family. She not only appears to be responding in a manner that suggests she desereved all of this, but she doesn't appreciate what people gave to her or the sacrifices they made in order to help so she didn't have to make any sacrifices of her own. People like her are why people like me side eye people truly in need because it gets hard to not wonder who really needs it and who is merely taking advantage.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 30, 2017 19:15:28 GMT
scrapaddict702 said it best - anyone who even hints of having a problem with anything she does gets kicked from the group so fast most followers never even know they were ever there. The only time they know is if Tracie takes the time to shame them for whatever they said or did before deleting all of that as well. I used to enjoy Tracie coming here even if she was controversial with her comments and positions. I like that. The money thing however was filled with lies and deceit and twisted facts. I work in a hospital and have worked in many hospitals over the past 30+ years and never has anyone had a clerk at check in 'go in the back to talk to someone' and then come out and tell them, "We decided to give it to you for free." People on her own followers list had heavy needs similar to hers and all she does is offer to pray for them. She has an enormous following, has styled herself a scrap 'celeb' and I know that today's celeb is tomorrow's has been. I think she is a runaway train that needs someone to pull the break.
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Post by quinmm14 on Jun 30, 2017 19:45:32 GMT
scrapaddict702 said it best - anyone who even hints of having a problem with anything she does gets kicked from the group so fast most followers never even know they were ever there. The only time they know is if Tracie takes the time to shame them for whatever they said or did before deleting all of that as well. I used to enjoy Tracie coming here even if she was controversial with her comments and positions. I like that. The money thing however was filled with lies and deceit and twisted facts. I work in a hospital and have worked in many hospitals over the past 30+ years and never has anyone had a clerk at check in 'go in the back to talk to someone' and then come out and tell them, "We decided to give it to you for free." People on her own followers list had heavy needs similar to hers and all she does is offer to pray for them. She has an enormous following, has styled herself a scrap 'celeb' and I know that today's celeb is tomorrow's has been. I think she is a runaway train that needs someone to pull the break. Yeah, the hospital thing. There's not a single one of us that truly believe she walked in and boom, free medical care. I don't think it would be a stretch to opine that all of this was set up prior to her procedure and most importantly that she knew it was taken care of.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 30, 2017 19:47:30 GMT
scrapaddict702 said it best - anyone who even hints of having a problem with anything she does gets kicked from the group so fast most followers never even know they were ever there. The only time they know is if Tracie takes the time to shame them for whatever they said or did before deleting all of that as well. I used to enjoy Tracie coming here even if she was controversial with her comments and positions. I like that. The money thing however was filled with lies and deceit and twisted facts. I work in a hospital and have worked in many hospitals over the past 30+ years and never has anyone had a clerk at check in 'go in the back to talk to someone' and then come out and tell them, "We decided to give it to you for free." People on her own followers list had heavy needs similar to hers and all she does is offer to pray for them. She has an enormous following, has styled herself a scrap 'celeb' and I know that today's celeb is tomorrow's has been. I think she is a runaway train that needs someone to pull the break. Yeah, the hospital thing. There's not a single one of us that truly believe she walked in and boom, free medical care. I don't think it would be a stretch to opine that all of this was set up prior to her procedure and most importantly that she knew it was taken care of. That's where she's stuck between a rock and a hard place. She's an over sharer, so she has to lie to not state things she doesn't want to discuss. If she just says she'd rather not talk about it, then people would know she's hiding something and have even more questions because she usually shares more than people care to know/hear.
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Post by dasmith2 on Jun 30, 2017 20:20:23 GMT
God wanted her to keep the money because she is blessed. I hope you're kidding me. If you're not, that woman is more vile than I had ever imagined possible. I would even go as far to say if she kept that donated money... that is beyond disgusting. She kept it all....far as what we know I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong ladies
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 30, 2017 20:55:03 GMT
I've said it before, I'll say it again: baby Jesus didn't come down on the blue planet and present her with a miracle on the day of her surgery. As myboysnme explained, hospitals don't just hand out freebies on the day of because the patient brought evidence of how generous other people have been to her. What a lie. And a bad story too! Who's going to believe such cow crap? Outrageous, exaggerated, classic narcissist needing to assert they're special, above the rest and, thus, worthy of your praise and admiration. Quick recap including everything she has talked and/or posted since publicly: - received new technology and more all of a sudden (latest iPhone, iPad Pro, purse, trip to Disneyland, etc.) - eating out every day it seems (because why care about money or educate oneself to cook healthy?) - first "decent" meal since surgery (quoting Tracie herself on IG) was FRIED ONION and STEAK (eating out, of course)... After heart surgery! Granted, the pacemaker isn't necessarily related to her weight BUT any "heart doctor" (quoting Tracie herself, again) would tell a patient with a pacemaker to keep healthy and in her case, get healthy (at least lose some weight) - contradictions with her past public pledges about her health about not eating sugar (just days after her surgery she went to rest at her mother's and ate two bowls of vanilla ice cream with hot chocolate sauce, boasting about how yummy it was on IG) (then went on to more sugary crap and post about it because why not?) - suddenly announces her wonderful husband (you know, the one from the Paypal account button) has surprised her with a major phone plan upgrade so she can use the Internet wherever she is (to exert her dictatorial leadership in her FB group and post more nonsense and evidence about what truly is happening with all those donations to IG, I'm sure) - brags about deserving to buy a new Calvin Klein bag on sale because she's out of a "monogrammed purse" (yes, sounds like a true essential to have in one's wardrobe) after her surgery with some money or gift card a relative gave her (I don't care it was only 40-50 bucks, it's the bragging and deserving that grates me... and the total lack of awareness of how she is coming across #TracieLiterallyCannotStopShowingOff #BadScammerAlert) If you ask me, she knew she was getting serious discounts (and probably sweet-talked/begged her way into those, just like she did online). She just continued to press the matter to gather sympathy and donations. It worked. She paid off other medical bills she still had (and did mention) so she could go back to a life of leisure while others had possibly made some sacrifices to help her out. Why pay off debt and restrict yourself when you can get others to do it for you? I dislike this woman with a passion. I refuse to back down. I'll continue to post about her vile character and how it's showing up online continuously. Tracie Claiborne, you thought the Southern ladies were something, be prepared for the vigilante attitude of the global women. You are not going to get away with this as easily as you have before. Thank you to those still belonging to her group and posting the screenshots whenever she does something horrible (like public shaming and cyberbullying). You are a great help to the cause. Oh, she can delete but we can help the Internet remember... And that quote she pinned? Don't be fooled. She isn't interpreting it the way we do, she is looking at it from the perpetual victim/poor persecuted martyr perspective: move on from all the hurt others (probably us "badmouthing" her publicly) have caused but don't forget (because she'll get revenge by growing more important in the scrap community, or so she believes, and making us even more jealous of her *ahem*).
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 30, 2017 21:21:32 GMT
I am sick of frivolous Go Fund Me accounts. Somebody on my Facebook was asking for money for her daughter to take a class trip. Meanwhile she continues to post pictures of all the activities their family does, every weekend they are taking mini trips and dining out at new trendy (expensive) places. Then I saw somebody posted on her Facebook asking her how her planning was going for a trip to Disney World!
Tracie is just another grifter. If you are following her you are just adding to her hubris.
Bah humbug [/rant over]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 22:55:07 GMT
I am sick of frivolous Go Fund Me accounts. Somebody on my Facebook was asking for money for her daughter to take a class trip. Meanwhile she continues to post pictures of all the activities their family does, every weekend they are taking mini trips and dining out at new trendy (expensive) places. Then I saw somebody posted on her Facebook asking her how her planning was going for a trip to Disney World! Tracie is just another grifter. If you are following her you are just adding to her hubris. Bah humbug [/rant over] Don't blame GoFundMe (this time). She used PayPal as a way to avoid the fees and so that a total would not be shown to contributors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 20:44:48 GMT
It continues on her Insta. No way in hell shes not reading peas . Is that a threat?
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Post by pancakes on Jul 2, 2017 20:54:14 GMT
It continues on her Insta. No way in hell shes not reading peas . Is that a threat? "if you're an awful person online than you're an awful person in real life." hahahahaha the hypocrisy.
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Post by Frazzled Mom on Jul 2, 2017 21:08:40 GMT
"if you're an awful person online than you're an awful person in real life." hahahahaha the hypocrisy. It's ironic she doesn't see how clearly she is guilty of exactly that. Personality disorders are fascinating. (Well, unless you claim to be the leader of the free world and then it's just scary...)
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Post by mom on Jul 2, 2017 21:13:33 GMT
Good gosh! Please, please promise me she will live a life without the internet. The hypocrisy is laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 21:47:12 GMT
I doubt she will leave the internet. For the same reason Trump will not leave twitter.
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Post by JustTricia on Jul 2, 2017 22:39:29 GMT
Was it on her Instagram page? I don't see it. Wonder if someone called her out so she deleted it.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 2, 2017 22:51:49 GMT
In response to the latest "social media brings out the worst in us" lettering project:
1) The font is difficult to read, which means readers are more focused on deciphering the words than considering their meaning.
2) The stream of consciousness style of writing is appropriate for personal journal entries, not on posts meant for public consumption.
3) Scolding people who use social media as a fellow user on one of your social media accounts undermines credibility & dilutes the message. It's also obviously disrespectful to the host.
4) While I & others choose to engage anonymously online, most of us have never shamelessly solicited & kept donations under false pretense, sneakily posted on various forums for the purpose of gossiping & belittling others, indignantly insulted anyone who disagreed with our opinion on scrapbook related topics, &/or treated people as poorly as she has (allegedly) using her own name & photo.
5) I'm surprised no one in her life - spouse, child, parent, friend, business partner, etc. - has encouraged her to stop the constant display of blatant narrcisism & lack of business acumen that undoubtedly has & will continue to damage her reputation & success.
6) Since she still hasn't learned to think before she posts, I predict it will disappear in 3, 2,...
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jul 2, 2017 23:20:16 GMT
Sigh. I was sooo happy to see this off the front page.
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