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Post by 2peafaithful on Jun 29, 2014 14:20:23 GMT
I am baking the Belle Magic cookies today and it reminded me to ask the peas this. 22 year old is a picky eater. Always has been. He eats very healthy. When he was a teenager he decided he would never drink a soft drink again, eat ice cream or eat candy bars. He was the only one of my kids that ever drank soft drinks and he gave them up on his own. Anyway, he loves moms cooking. I am super grateful that he does. He doesn't eat a lot of sweets and limits his sugar intake but if I have something here and he likes it he will eat it. He loves a good sugar cookie. He isn't a chocolate kids or really rich sweets so if he has something it is usually a plain sugar or oatmeal cookie.
A few years ago I made the Belle Magic cookies. He saw them, smelled them and tried them. He won't try a lot of new things but he thought they looked promising. He loved them!
Then it hit me afterwards OH CRUD he HATES cream cheese. Hates it. I wasn't thinking about it when he tasted them.
Because I know he is very particular about what he eats I feel badly that I didn't tell him once I remembered and connected the two. I know it sounds small and silly but I truly feel like I am keeping that from him. I haven't made them in a couple years (when he was home) but he will talk about them here and there and I just feel like I should come clean!
Never say another word about it? Tell him if he ever brings it up again or ask me to make them? Don't make them again and see if he forgets about them. I do think he would ask me to make them again though. First world problems for sure.
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Post by emleyth on Jun 29, 2014 14:27:11 GMT
Both of my kids (14 & 21) hate cream cheese, mayo (and miracle whip), sour cream and mustard, but each has a few foods that include one (or more) of those ingredients they enjoy. I keep quiet until they see me cooking and they realize what they've been eating, then I simply point out that they've liked it in the past and will enjoy it in the future. So far, they still ask for those things ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) E
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Post by Crazyhare on Jun 29, 2014 14:27:25 GMT
If you didn't make them for him again, I would just come clean the next time he mentions them.
"You know I remembered after you ate them that they have cream cheese in them. That's why I never made them again."
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Post by shevy on Jun 29, 2014 14:28:48 GMT
I do this with DH. Sometimes I think (and he agrees) that he diednt like something because he tried it once and never again. But if I make something that had an ingredient that isn't an overt taste and he eats it, I don't feel guilty. In fact we've had discussions about this and he's tried more things because of it.
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Post by ~Tracy~ on Jun 29, 2014 14:29:42 GMT
If you didn't make them for him again, I would just come clean the next time he mentions them. "You know I remembered after you ate them that they have cream cheese in them. That's why I never made them again." Sounds like a perfectly honest and good answer! You're a sweet mom for thinking of his preferences and trying to make sure you honor them!
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Jun 29, 2014 14:36:34 GMT
I'm a big believer in don't ask, don't tell.
My father also hates cream cheese. Used to love cheesecake. Till he was told what was in it. Now he won't touch the stuff. Ridiculous, I know. But if your son has only a few things he loves, why risk taking one of those away by sharing that info? I say don't lie, but don't offer.
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Post by cropaholicnora on Jun 29, 2014 14:43:24 GMT
If you didn't make them for him again, I would just come clean the next time he mentions them. "You know I remembered after you ate them that they have cream cheese in them. That's why I never made them again." I think that's a great answer!
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Post by styxgirl on Jun 29, 2014 14:46:41 GMT
A few years ago I made the Belle Magic cookies. He saw them, smelled them and tried them. He won't try a lot of new things but he thought they looked promising. He loved them! Then it hit me afterwards OH CRUD he HATES cream cheese. Hates it. I wasn't thinking about it when he tasted them. Guess he doesn't hate cream cheese as much as he thought he did! LOL![](http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj614/styxgirlnicole/thumbup2_zpsca3ca5f7.gif)
If he doesn't like it because it's unhealthy to eat, I would make the cookies again, but tell him they have cream cheese in them before he eats more.
If he just thinks he doesn't like cream cheese, I would make more, let him start eating them and raving about how good they are and then reveal the surprise ingredient. (I'm ornery like that). ![](http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj614/styxgirlnicole/laugh_zps3d9e274d.gif)
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Post by calgal08 on Jun 29, 2014 14:46:51 GMT
If I told my kids the ingredients I use with most of my baking/cooking they'd starve to death (black beans in brownies, flax in pancakes, grated carrots in meatballs, etc. etc.)
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Post by oktrae on Jun 29, 2014 14:50:40 GMT
If I told my kids the ingredients I use with most of my baking/cooking they'd starve to death (black beans in brownies, flax in pancakes, grated carrots in meatballs, etc. etc.) My DH would starve too... He thinks all the veggies are for smoothies....
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Post by queenofshoes on Jun 29, 2014 14:51:00 GMT
I would tell him if he asked, but otherwise let him enjoy the cookie. My father hated mayo and refused to eat it. Little did he know my mom put it in the mashed potatoes that he scarfed down all the time. He never knew and it didn't hurt him.
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Post by 2peafaithful on Jun 29, 2014 14:59:59 GMT
"You know I remembered after you ate them that they have cream cheese in them. That's why I never made them again."
That sounds like a doable what to handle it.
Styx-So true. It is totally in his mind but I respect that. It has actually happened more than once time with the cream cheese! The other time it was a cake with frosting and he ate it, loved it and than asked what kind of frosting it was. That was when I just thought he didn't like it but didn't know he really had a major issue with it.
Tiffany- His fiance has asked for the recipe! I have no problem sharing it with her BUT that would put that out there about what is in them.
He is health conscience but I don't think it is a health thing but more of a I think that is really nasty thing.
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Post by kelbel827 on Jun 29, 2014 15:03:12 GMT
I have issues with all white and creamy unless it's a dessert item. I don't like cream cheese unless it is fully blended in the dessert. I would never spread cream cheese on a bagel or eat dips made with cream cheese, but if blended in cookies where I can't see it, it's all good. Maybe he's that way too.
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Post by 2peafaithful on Jun 29, 2014 15:05:07 GMT
Kelbel-Maybe a little age will help lean him that way. I believe he is still at the place of it won't enter by body!
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Jun 29, 2014 15:07:12 GMT
Uh oh. Yeah, now I think you're gonna have to fess up - at least to her. Then you can let her decide how/if to break the news, lol.
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Post by BeckyTech on Jun 29, 2014 15:09:45 GMT
That's what my mom did to me on occasion. I shrugged my shoulders and continued to enjoy whatever it was. It helped me to be a little bit more open about trying other things.
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Post by winogirl on Jun 29, 2014 15:22:35 GMT
I'm a big believer in don't ask, don't tell. My father also hates cream cheese. Used to love cheesecake. Till he was told what was in it. Now he won't touch the stuff. Ridiculous, I know. But if your son has only a few things he loves, why risk taking one of those away by sharing that info? I say don't lie, but don't offer. This. My mom hates all dairy products. Not lactose intolerant, just doesn't like. I try to keep cheese to only one dish at holidays and I let her know what to avoid. One time I guess she wasn't listening to me and helped herself to a serving of cheesy potatoes. My sister and I watched in a mixture of horror and glee as she ate and enjoyed the whole serving. I never told her she just thinks she doesn't like cheese.
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Post by Grom Pea on Jun 30, 2014 1:14:53 GMT
I probably would tell him afterwards, my dad insisted that he hated cinnamon, so much so that my mom and I made him cinnamon twists (out of biscuits) and made him some plain sugar ones. When he said he liked the reddish ones better I was certain to tell him he liked cinnamon, lol.
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Post by akathy on Jun 30, 2014 1:38:36 GMT
He's 22 and engaged? I think he can handle the truth. "DS, your fiancée asked me for the recipe for those cookies you like so much. I totally forgot they had cream cheese in them when you ate them. Would you still like me to give her the recipe?"
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Post by fotos4u2 on Jun 30, 2014 1:59:59 GMT
I must be weird because I wouldn't even give this a second thought. I have two extremely picky eaters who refuse to eat certain things, but I don't think I'd ever feel guilty if they ate something on that list inadvertently and liked it!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 30, 2014 2:00:02 GMT
He's 22 and engaged? I think he can handle the truth. "DS, your fiancée asked me for the recipe for those cookies you like so much. I totally forgot they had cream cheese in them when you ate them. Would you still like me to give her the recipe?" This. I agree it's time to fess up and if he doesn't eat them, so be it.
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Post by elaine on Jun 30, 2014 2:03:25 GMT
I'm different from the rest of you, I wouldn't say a word and I would hand over the recipe to the fiancé without saying anything about the cream cheese.
I think that it will be a big deal, or something to avoid, only if you treat it as such.
Cookies with cream cheese are very different than cream cheese on its own or as a spread. Rugaleh are Jewish pastry cookies made with cream cheese dough and fruit filling. They are amazing. You can't taste cream cheese, but the cream cheese makes the dough very rich and moist.
just because someone doesn't like pudding doesn't mean they will hate a cake that has pudding mixed in for moistness. Cake and pudding are two different things, just like cream cheese and cookies with cream cheese are two different things.
Let him decide after his fiancé makes them for him whether or not he wants to eat them.
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Post by Goldynn on Jun 30, 2014 2:14:57 GMT
I would let him know so that you don't continue to feel like you're keeping something from him. But then it could go either way as far as if he'll still like them or not.
I had a friend who came to dinner with her husband who was a very picky eater. I made lasagna with a mix of sausage and ground beef. Friend arrived and told me in kitchen he didn't like sausage. We sat down to eat and he was wolfing it down. I mentioned the sausage (figured he knew and could taste it) and he carried on eating everything but the lasagna, lol! I just don't get it since he wasn't standing on any sort of principle, but taste. He obviously liked it, why not keep eating it?
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 30, 2014 12:44:51 GMT
I'm of the opinion that they don't need to know everything. Just let them enjoy it.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jun 30, 2014 12:54:12 GMT
Both of my kids (14 & 21) hate cream cheese, mayo (and miracle whip), sour cream and mustard, but each has a few foods that include one (or more) of those ingredients they enjoy. I keep quiet until they see me cooking and they realize what they've been eating, then I simply point out that they've liked it in the past and will enjoy it in the future. So far, they still ask for those things ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) E This is totally me (except I do like mustard). But there are a few things I like that have those as ingredients (deviled eggs, cheese cake, BK chicken sandwiches, probably a couple others too), as an adult it doesn't phase me. That said, if I come across a new recipe that looks good except it has an offending ingredient in it (even though logically I know I probably wouldn't taste it), I won't make it or try it. So if you made those cookies and told me before I had one that they had cream cheese in them, I'd be hesitant to try it. But if I ate one, liked it, then found out there was cream cheese in it, I'd just shrug and eat more ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by justkallie on Jun 30, 2014 13:06:23 GMT
I'm different from the rest of you, I wouldn't say a word and I would hand over the recipe to the fiancé without saying anything about the cream cheese. I think that it will be a big deal, or something to avoid, only if you treat it as such. Cookies with cream cheese are very different than cream cheese on its own or as a spread. Rugaleh are Jewish pastry cookies made with cream cheese dough and fruit filling. They are amazing. You can't taste cream cheese, but the cream cheese makes the dough very rich and moist. just because someone doesn't like pudding doesn't mean they will hate a cake that has pudding mixed in for moistness. Cake and pudding are two different things, just like cream cheese and cookies with cream cheese are two different things. Let him decide after his fiancé makes them for him whether or not he wants to eat them. I totally agree with this. My 10 year old son is a very picky eater, and many of 'hates" are not based in taste or allergy. He just thinks he doesn't like the food. Same with my husband. To me, it is a very negative trait, as it is so limiting, and you are further supporting the behavior by catering to it. The way I have dealt with it with my son is I will ask him how he liked the food that was prepared. If it is a positive response, I will ask him what he thinks is in the dish. I want to know whether he can identify the flavors to actually know if there are flavors he likes or dislikes. Sometimes, the response is "I can't believe you put sausage it. I don't like sausage!" And then I remind him that he said he liked the dish, and he compromises by saying - "OK, I don't like sausage alone, but mixed in, it is fine." This has happened so many times, I have lost count. Now, as he is realizing his palate actually enjoys flavors he claimed he hated, he is taking more interest in recipes and food preparation and has opened up many dialogues about food that will only help him in the future. I had a child who only wanted chicken nuggets and mac and cheese, and now he eats loves to taste different olive oils, has tried and enjoyed sushi, has tried vegetables such as fennel, radishes, kohlrabi and celery root, will try any new charcuterie or cheese we come across over here, and has asked for cookbooks to try and make new recipes. As for your son, he is old enough at this point to ask himself what are in certain foods before trying if his food limitations are that important to him. I don't think that it is, more that it is just a habit for him, and not necessarily a very positive one to encourage.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 30, 2014 13:40:42 GMT
I'm a big believer in don't ask, don't tell. My father also hates cream cheese. Used to love cheesecake. Till he was told what was in it. Now he won't touch the stuff. Ridiculous, I know. But if your son has only a few things he loves, why risk taking one of those away by sharing that info? I say don't lie, but don't offer. This.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 30, 2014 15:14:18 GMT
My DS is the same way. He doesn't like sauces. For him, it's the texture. Mayo is just eggs and oil and a little lemon juice. But the texture can really throw people off.
DS is 17 now, but when he was younger, I would just tell him that when an ingredient we don't like is mixed with other things, the flavor changes. I don't warn him if there are ingredients in a food he doesn't like. He likes my cooking, so he just eats now.
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Post by ginacivey on Jun 30, 2014 15:22:08 GMT
cream cheese guilt?
if he doesn't morally object to cheese then why feel guilty
it's not your job to keep up with his dislikes and be 'open' about all ingredients
i really think you are WAY overthinking this
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Post by eastcoastpea on Jun 30, 2014 15:23:51 GMT
I'm different from the rest of you, I wouldn't say a word and I would hand over the recipe to the fiancé without saying anything about the cream cheese. I think that it will be a big deal, or something to avoid, only if you treat it as such. Cookies with cream cheese are very different than cream cheese on its own or as a spread. Rugaleh are Jewish pastry cookies made with cream cheese dough and fruit filling. They are amazing. You can't taste cream cheese, but the cream cheese makes the dough very rich and moist. just because someone doesn't like pudding doesn't mean they will hate a cake that has pudding mixed in for moistness. Cake and pudding are two different things, just like cream cheese and cookies with cream cheese are two different things. Let him decide after his fiancé makes them for him whether or not he wants to eat them. I totally agree with this. My 10 year old son is a very picky eater, and many of 'hates" are not based in taste or allergy. He just thinks he doesn't like the food. Same with my husband. To me, it is a very negative trait, as it is so limiting, and you are further supporting the behavior by catering to it. The way I have dealt with it with my son is I will ask him how he liked the food that was prepared. If it is a positive response, I will ask him what he thinks is in the dish. I want to know whether he can identify the flavors to actually know if there are flavors he likes or dislikes. Sometimes, the response is "I can't believe you put sausage it. I don't like sausage!" And then I remind him that he said he liked the dish, and he compromises by saying - "OK, I don't like sausage alone, but mixed in, it is fine." This has happened so many times, I have lost count. Now, as he is realizing his palate actually enjoys flavors he claimed he hated, he is taking more interest in recipes and food preparation and has opened up many dialogues about food that will only help him in the future. I had a child who only wanted chicken nuggets and mac and cheese, and now he eats loves to taste different olive oils, has tried and enjoyed sushi, has tried vegetables such as fennel, radishes, kohlrabi and celery root, will try any new charcuterie or cheese we come across over here, and has asked for cookbooks to try and make new recipes. As for your son, he is old enough at this point to ask himself what are in certain foods before trying if his food limitations are that important to him. I don't think that it is, more that it is just a habit for him, and not necessarily a very positive one to encourage. I agree with these posts. I myself won't even try cream cheese on a bagel. The thought of it grosses me out. Offer me a key lime cheese ball and I'm all over it. You didn't purposely deceive him when him tried them. Would it really make you feel better to tell him and take the chance that he feels he must stop eating them when you already know that he likes them?
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