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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 17, 2017 19:46:17 GMT
Hahahahahahahahaha that's funny continue or expand a successful program? Why ever would that work? ( sarcasm ) 1- FREE? You can't expect republicans to give anyone anything ( unless your mega rich ) I mean that would be helping those horrible thieves mooch off the system AND egads its birth control so it has to be a horrible sin. Only a heathenous culture would do such a thing. 2- it works - heaven forbid we take what works and use it other places. Must re-invent the wheel every time. 3- 'They' made that program so 'we' must remove it. Doesn't matter what works, only who started it. We can't have any successful programs from 'them' ( both sides ) Luckily state government is saner than federal. It was a Democratic program that unfortunately did hit too many of your points in 2015. But luckily ALL Republicans don't fit your narrative: rewire.news/article/2016/04/08/colorado-contraception-program-overcomes-gop-opposition/ |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 17, 2017 19:46:56 GMT
let me double check with her Thanks, I always love to hear about things that actually work! |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 17, 2017 19:49:31 GMT
I have a friend who worked in a school/clinic attached to one of these studies. Teen pregnancy in that school dropped 70% during the study. That is a huge decrease and it lowered the tax burden had that drop not occurred. What was the study? University of New Mexico hospital- Atrisco heritage clinic/ high school |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 17, 2017 19:59:28 GMT
University of New Mexico hospital- Atrisco heritage clinic/ high school Do you have additional details? Google tells me it's a clinic that offers free Long term birth control to students confidentially - so in many ways a smaller version of Colorado with similar dramatic drops in rates. If that's not accurate and you have details, I'd be interested in learning more. |
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Post by chances on Jul 17, 2017 20:20:00 GMT
Like previous posters have mentioned, some states will not replicate Colorado's policy. More importantly, there is not a single policy or program that works for all places.
Local studies are necessary to account for the specific circumstances in a given community. Also, aggressive government insistence on birth control to minority communities may not be welcomed. At least two of the studies defunded were for Native American commuties.. After centuries of government sponsored genocide, theft of native children, and forced sterilization, trust from the community is low. Any successful program is going to have to account for these type of unique issues.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 17, 2017 20:32:57 GMT
University of New Mexico hospital- Atrisco heritage clinic/ high school Do you have additional details? Google tells me it's a clinic that offers free Long term birth control to students confidentially - so in many ways a smaller version of Colorado with similar dramatic drops in rates. If that's not accurate and you have details, I'd be interested in learning more. yeah, there were at least two studies going On, I believe Part of why you may not find it is that the study isn't complete, so findings aren't published. I believe this may be the one, but I will ask. Exemplary Sexual Health Education Evaluation There are other studies the university has conducted. |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 17, 2017 22:56:16 GMT
Did you actually read the article before you went spouting off? Because I don't see how you could have, and then come up with these responses. I read the article and am quite sure I fundamentally disagree with WHY this administration has chosen to end funding for these programs. It doesn't mean that I don't think there are far better uses of the money than a scattershot of 81 different programs all researching what works. We know what works. Please send me the millions to see if middle school sex education or parent workshops are as effective as access to to free long term birth control. The "better uses" of the money planned by the GOP include massive tax breaks for the mega-rich. There are no plans to replace any of the killed-off programs with more hands-on substitutes that actually work. The powers-that-be believe in abstinence only. There will be no other options for these sexually active teens. (Additionally, they are dumping studies in the middle of their term, effectively making the millions already spent on research just money down the drain.) Your opinion about the uselessness of these programs vs. the functionality of just handing out birth control freely is kind of pointless if they aren't planning on the handing out of birth control freely part of the equation. |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 18, 2017 18:17:01 GMT
Darcy Collins, I think I was unnecessarily critical of your comments on this thread yesterday and I apologize for that.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jul 18, 2017 18:28:35 GMT
Hahahahahahahahaha that's funny continue or expand a successful program? Why ever would that work? ( sarcasm ) 1- FREE? You can't expect republicans to give anyone anything ( unless your mega rich ) I mean that would be helping those horrible thieves mooch off the system AND egads its birth control so it has to be a horrible sin. Only a heathenous culture would do such a thing. 2- it works - heaven forbid we take what works and use it other places. Must re-invent the wheel every time. 3- 'They' made that program so 'we' must remove it. Doesn't matter what works, only who started it. We can't have any successful programs from 'them' ( both sides ) Luckily state government is saner than federal. It was a Democratic program that unfortunately did hit too many of your points in 2015. But luckily ALL Republicans don't fit your narrative: rewire.news/article/2016/04/08/colorado-contraception-program-overcomes-gop-opposition/I'm glad that they eventually got enough Republican support to fund the program, but it took over a year and if you read the comments in the article, it's pretty depressing what we are up against (equating IUD's with abortion and other falsehoods). And this was for a state that is more moderate. I don't see anything like this working in the more conservative states. I think it's a shame because in my mind this program is a common ground for both sides - reduces teen pregnancies, reduces abortions, reduces government costs, etc. |
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