georgiapea
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 21, 2017 22:28:31 GMT
Have you compared your own natal chart to that of anyone else with the same condition?
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 23:13:32 GMT
Have you compared your own natal chart to that of anyone else with the same condition? I actually just looked at Chester's natal chart yesterday to see if there was any significance to his passing, and there are a lot of relations with his chart to mine, including the place the moon was when he was born. It was in the same exact place when I born (and there are 360 places in total the moon can be, when it comes to natal charts because it goes by degrees) And we did a poll with the group I'm in that experience this condition, on what their sign was and it ranked the highest in Pisces as well as many there are empaths too.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 22, 2017 1:04:49 GMT
all I have to do now is just show an astrologer my natal chart Anxiety is a brutal load. {{{Hugs}}} to you and to all suffering. I hope you can feel connected to yourself again some day and that it will be a good experience. I have to say that my natal chart explained things so well when I was about 22 that I actually copied some of the dead-on interpretations to try to get my parents to understand what my life was like at that moment in time. I didn't care if they believed in the alignment of the planets, I just wanted them to understand my life a little better. Yeah, that didn't go over too well. C'est la vie!
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Post by gramasue on Jul 23, 2017 0:22:31 GMT
I am also one who had never heard of this! It sounds awful. I'm off to google it and find out more. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Sending you hugs and hoping for a better tomorrow!
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 23, 2017 20:35:33 GMT
all I have to do now is just show an astrologer my natal chart Anxiety is a brutal load. {{{Hugs}}} to you and to all suffering. I hope you can feel connected to yourself again some day and that it will be a good experience. I have to say that my natal chart explained things so well when I was about 22 that I actually copied some of the dead-on interpretations to try to get my parents to understand what my life was like at that moment in time. I didn't care if they believed in the alignment of the planets, I just wanted them to understand my life a little better. Yeah, that didn't go over too well. C'est la vie! Thank you leftturn. It brought tears to my eyes when you talked about connecting to one self. Oh I've been there when it didn't go as planned when it came to sharing the astro interpretation, it's not for everyone Even if it's about just to find an understanding in what one is going through still has a connection to being open to it. I had a wonderful connection with someone this morning when I was reading their chart about what their purpose is. I would mention something like a symbol, and they would say they just saw a show on that earlier today. And the same number I shared with them in numerology kept coming up in every other aspect I used to explore their purpose. (for instance: my numerology life path number is different than my galactic tone number) Hope you enjoy the New Moon today!
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 24, 2017 2:21:40 GMT
Anxiety is a brutal load. {{{Hugs}}} to you and to all suffering. I hope you can feel connected to yourself again some day and that it will be a good experience. I have to say that my natal chart explained things so well when I was about 22 that I actually copied some of the dead-on interpretations to try to get my parents to understand what my life was like at that moment in time. I didn't care if they believed in the alignment of the planets, I just wanted them to understand my life a little better. Yeah, that didn't go over too well. C'est la vie! Thank you leftturn. It brought tears to my eyes when you talked about connecting to one self. Oh I've been there when it didn't go as planned when it came to sharing the astro interpretation, it's not for everyone Even if it's about just to find an understanding in what one is going through still has a connection to being open to it. I had a wonderful connection with someone this morning when I was reading their chart about what their purpose is. I would mention something like a symbol, and they would say they just saw a show on that earlier today. And the same number I shared with them in numerology kept coming up in every other aspect I used to explore their purpose. (for instance: my numerology life path number is different than my galactic tone number) Hope you enjoy the New Moon today! It's pouring rain, so I didn't even know it was a new moon. I'm a full moon kinda girl, myself. I was in the car earlier today driving to pick someone up and flicked on the radio. I'm in an area I'm not usually in and don't know the stations, so I was skipping around for about a minute when I landed on someone talking about the person we are now and the person we will be in the future. The person we are today holds all the power. Our future self is dependent on what our present self does. Our actions today need to purposefully keep our future self in mind. I thought that was a pretty strong message, so I turned the radio off then so I'd remember it better. Your mention of purpose just brought it right back to me. Don't ask me why I included it in this post, because I have no explanation. It came to me. You're a sensitive. Voila. All this may seem to be off topic to your thread, but I'm not so sure that it is. If you have trouble keeping a good connection with physical reality, I bet it's very easy to slip into a state where you're more sensitive than people normally are. It sounds like your radio dial is picking up a station most sets aren't receiving and you can't seem to adjust the dial to pick up the regular stations correctly again. As it's happened to me all of my life, I believe that signs do come to those who are alert to them. I don't think that you are crazy for tuning in to that part of you. It is my hope for you that if it is good and right that your dial will once again be able to clearly tune in and pick up all of you. May the white light surround you always.
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Post by elaine on Jul 24, 2017 4:05:03 GMT
I know that this is unrelated to astrological charts, but from psychiatry's DSM 5 -
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Aug 14, 2017 5:48:12 GMT
Thank you leftturn. It brought tears to my eyes when you talked about connecting to one self. Oh I've been there when it didn't go as planned when it came to sharing the astro interpretation, it's not for everyone Even if it's about just to find an understanding in what one is going through still has a connection to being open to it. I had a wonderful connection with someone this morning when I was reading their chart about what their purpose is. I would mention something like a symbol, and they would say they just saw a show on that earlier today. And the same number I shared with them in numerology kept coming up in every other aspect I used to explore their purpose. (for instance: my numerology life path number is different than my galactic tone number) Hope you enjoy the New Moon today! It's pouring rain, so I didn't even know it was a new moon. I'm a full moon kinda girl, myself. I was in the car earlier today driving to pick someone up and flicked on the radio. I'm in an area I'm not usually in and don't know the stations, so I was skipping around for about a minute when I landed on someone talking about the person we are now and the person we will be in the future. The person we are today holds all the power. Our future self is dependent on what our present self does. Our actions today need to purposefully keep our future self in mind. I thought that was a pretty strong message, so I turned the radio off then so I'd remember it better. Your mention of purpose just brought it right back to me. Don't ask me why I included it in this post, because I have no explanation. It came to me. You're a sensitive. Voila. All this may seem to be off topic to your thread, but I'm not so sure that it is. If you have trouble keeping a good connection with physical reality, I bet it's very easy to slip into a state where you're more sensitive than people normally are. It sounds like your radio dial is picking up a station most sets aren't receiving and you can't seem to adjust the dial to pick up the regular stations correctly again. As it's happened to me all of my life, I believe that signs do come to those who are alert to them. I don't think that you are crazy for tuning in to that part of you. It is my hope for you that if it is good and right that your dial will once again be able to clearly tune in and pick up all of you. May the white light surround you always. Thank you! That is a beautiful analogy! I'm feeling some Sagittarius energy in your words ... knowing you'd remember what you heard on the radio better if you turned it off takes some building of awareness
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Aug 14, 2017 6:00:52 GMT
I know that this is unrelated to astrological charts, but from psychiatry's DSM 5 - Thank you for sharing, Elaine. And this is the main reason why I don't really label myself anymore with having depersonalization/derealization. I just call it an experience of mine. There are over 7,000 members in the support group I'm in. I'm not saying that all of them have this, but this is why I don't do labels anymore, because there could be many there that don't technically have this disorder, but do share many of the symptoms and experiences as others, and I feel that's enough to know that there is something going on with them that is looking to be balanced and to work on filling that void. And when you don't look at the label then it's easier to fill that void in a more personalized way, which I feel works better that way. Many in that support group share ways that helped them, but we've learned that it's not something that can help everyone. Just like I found what worked for me, may not work for others.
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Post by mlynn on Aug 14, 2017 9:21:23 GMT
mymindseyedpea . You said something about time. I came to realize some time ago that I experience time differently than other people. Is that what you meant? ?
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Aug 14, 2017 18:22:24 GMT
mymindseyedpea . You said something about time. I came to realize some time ago that I experience time differently than other people. Is that what you meant? ? Yes, I do experience time differently. It doesn't feel linear to me. It's like I can jump from one conscious state into another conscious state that feels like one universe to another. I've done a lot of deeper research since then. But when I first started experiencing this I didn't know what it was. I wasn't even aware that time felt different to me. I just knew existence felt off to me. And then the realization when happen when someone would talk about time and I would notice I wouldn't be able to relate. It still happens, like at work sometimes on a Monday my manager will ask me how the weekend went at the store. And I wouldn't remember because it felt like it never happened or that it felt so long ago because of how many unparalleled states of consciousness I have been in since then. It became a joke at a former job, where my coworker would ask me something that happened an hour ago and I wouldn't remember and he would ask: "Too many Malia's ago?" It used to be very challenging when I didn't know what was going on like I was afraid my memory was gone or that I was going crazy. But now I don't mind it anymore. I remember when I took lunch once at that former job for an hour, I went in the break room and got totally wrapped in the show that was on that it felt like I was there for about 3 hours. I started to panic and looked at the time and I still had 20 more minutes. I came back from lunch as if I was just getting on for the beginning of my work day because I felt so rejuvenated and refreshed, it was awesome. And it's been nice to know in the past 4 years that I'm not the only one that experiences this, that there are many I know now who share this. I'm not saying that linear time doesn't exist, (and now I see that as jumping from one conscious state to a parallel one) but I do believe now that other patterns of time exist as well and I guess part of me was ready to explore those.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 17, 2017 5:53:52 GMT
Yes, I do experience time differently. It doesn't feel linear to me. It's like I can jump from one conscious state into another conscious state that feels like one universe to another. I have done that on occasion. One time I was walking down a street and there was a stop sign ahead of me. I realized that in a minute, I'd be even with the stop sign and then I'd be turning around to look back at where I was at that moment. I walked down to the sign and then turned around and looked at the spot I had just been. Throughout, my whole awareness of time was altered. It almost felt like I was in both spots at the same time. Einstein thought about what time is. If you are unfamiliar with his ideas, Google Einstein and time. There's hard science (meaning experiments have been done) that show that time is relative even on an atomic level. The simplified idea is that the faster an object moves, the slower time advances for that object. Maybe for you, the awareness of the passage of time depends on how fast your thoughts are racing? IDK. Just throwing the idea out there for you to think about. What I do know is that if I drive the same route every day, I get to the point where I am aware of traffic the entire time, but I don't remember it for very long. That's fine until the day I'm in the middle of a simple drive to somewhere like the Post Office and midway there I suddenly don't know exactly where I am or how to get where I'm going. I had the same trouble in marching band, playing the same songs over and over until I would suddenly not know where we were in the music or what direction the next step would be. It's a bit like being hit with cold water and momentarily disorienting. I chalk it up to my ability to attend (or not), i.e. attention disorder. Those experiences share that change of consciousness or awareness with what you have described but are limited to moments in situations where I have learned to expect it. Based only on my experiences, it sounds to me like you just don't pay as much attention to the more mundane details of life. Your brain goes on autopilot during those times and you take back control when you think that something needs your attention. It would feel like you suddenly woke up or just became more alert, and could be disorienting enough that you could more quickly forget the immediate past than what is normal. (Like how you forget what you're saying when someone interrupts you.) Again, I'm just thinking out loud... uh, typing out loud? ... and maybe this difference in attention doesn't apply to you specifically. I'd be surprised if it doesn't apply to at least some of the members of your group, though. And if it applies to anyone, learning tricks to strengthen attention to the menial/trivial/mundane details of life may lessen the effects felt when the person begins to actually focus and pay attention to something they find more interesting. It's the abrupt transition from being on autopilot and only aware of some things to being aware of everything that is so disorienting. FWIW, I'm a Leo.
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Post by rodeomom on Aug 17, 2017 14:20:28 GMT
I think I had about 4 episodes of something like this at age 16. They only lasted for a few minutes each time. I can't imagine living day to day like that. The episodes were something that I never forgot how it felt and I'm 56 years old.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Aug 17, 2017 17:23:26 GMT
Yes, I do experience time differently. It doesn't feel linear to me. It's like I can jump from one conscious state into another conscious state that feels like one universe to another. I have done that on occasion. One time I was walking down a street and there was a stop sign ahead of me. I realized that in a minute, I'd be even with the stop sign and then I'd be turning around to look back at where I was at that moment. I walked down to the sign and then turned around and looked at the spot I had just been. Throughout, my whole awareness of time was altered. It almost felt like I was in both spots at the same time. Einstein thought about what time is. If you are unfamiliar with his ideas, Google Einstein and time. There's hard science (meaning experiments have been done) that show that time is relative even on an atomic level. The simplified idea is that the faster an object moves, the slower time advances for that object. I can see how that idea goes with my "everything is energy" way of understanding the world, so yes. I love Einstein's theories - "Imagination is more important than knowledge." "Logic will take you from point A to B, imagination will take your everywhere." Maybe for you, the awareness of the passage of time depends on how fast your thoughts are racing? IDK. Just throwing the idea out there for you to think about. Yes, it seems that the more in my head I am the slower time seems to go. What I do know is that if I drive the same route every day, I get to the point where I am aware of traffic the entire time, but I don't remember it for very long. That's fine until the day I'm in the middle of a simple drive to somewhere like the Post Office and midway there I suddenly don't know exactly where I am or how to get where I'm going. I had the same trouble in marching band, playing the same songs over and over until I would suddenly not know where we were in the music or what direction the next step would be. It's a bit like being hit with cold water and momentarily disorienting. I chalk it up to my ability to attend (or not), i.e. attention disorder. Those experiences share that change of consciousness or awareness with what you have described but are limited to moments in situations where I have learned to expect it. Yup, I see it as staying in the subconscious mind for too long, and something out of the ordinary from this auto pilot patterns triggers a glitch and we come back to the conscious state and disassociate when the switch occurs.
Based only on my experiences, it sounds to me like you just don't pay as much attention to the more mundane details of life. Your brain goes on autopilot during those times and you take back control when you think that something needs your attention. It would feel like you suddenly woke up or just became more alert, and could be disorienting enough that you could more quickly forget the immediate past than what is normal. (Like how you forget what you're saying when someone interrupts you.) I know what you are talking about, and thank you for sharing your take on it. I'm definitely not interested in the mundane. I see its importance for structure and being realistic but it's hard for me to stay in that environment for long periods of time. Like, instead of answering 10 math problems the same way, I would be more interested in exploring other ways to solve them. Again, I'm just thinking out loud... uh, typing out loud? ... and maybe this difference in attention doesn't apply to you specifically. I'd be surprised if it doesn't apply to at least some of the members of your group, though. And if it applies to anyone, learning tricks to strengthen attention to the menial/trivial/mundane details of life may lessen the effects felt when the person begins to actually focus and pay attention to something they find more interesting. It's the abrupt transition from being on autopilot and only aware of some things to being aware of everything that is so disorienting. I think with my awareness, is I'm too aware to an overwhelming level when I really put my focus on my awareness. I just got an insight just now about how an overwhelming awareness sits with the physical environment (earth energy) and how it sits with the other environments as well (the emotional (water energy) and mental (air energy) ) And I'm seeing it as, if one is too aware of being in a structured environment then they will feel like they want to break out of it. If one is not too aware of being in a structured environment then they will feel safe and belonging because there is a balance to their neutral level of awareness to the neutral giving of such an environment.
Maybe the mundane is more suitable with the subconscious way of going about things, because it's routine oriented. That's how anything gets programmed into our subconscious is through routine. So if one is completely conscious of every single thought, feeling, detail and energy and what it means to them, then patterns will feel too suffocating and repetitive. Now let's put this same awareness into the emotional. There's depth and room for flow. Add the mental, and there's space to expand. So, this is probably why I love to explore beyond because it suits my level of awareness. Therefore, I'm not against the mundane, but it feels toxic for me to be in it when it's the only thing there is for me to explore.
FWIW, I'm a Leo. That's the sign the Sun was in when you were born. There's a lot more in the sky
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