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Post by Olan on Sept 22, 2017 22:10:01 GMT
Fair point. I'm allowing my personal opinion of you as someone who enjoys creating drama influence my response. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'll at least own up to my opinion. I'm going to validate your opinion of it being dramatic in this case - she could have just as easily sent a direct link to her friends that would have been just as effective at getting them here, if not easier. The Peas would have been none the wiser as the thread would have remained buried on page 20-something. Instead, she bumps the thread with a note that she's doing it for her off-board friends to find it easier on page 1. Of course it's dramatic, anyone who's followed the boards this summer knows what this thread is about, and followed it. When it's all of a sudden bumped a month or two later, of course they're going to come in and see why. Thank you for weighing in. Once you've seen why the thread is bumped then what? What would be the next step to make this thread bump more dramatic? No response required. I've bumped a benign thread with a simple . and had someone hound me and then assign a nefarious reason as to why very recently. Let me help you with the then what part....we all share a dramatic friend that we love. Whenever she starts ramping up with the complaints one of us speaks loudly over her. I can't do it so when it's just one on one I pretend I dont hear her. She may repeat herself a time or two but as long as a keep my eyes fixed....She's only encouraged when someone "co-signs" her complaint or feeds into her need for drama. This really isn't about engaging with the peas so for arguments sake you're right (disregard the helpful advice I gave the other pea) I'm bumping this thread for dramatics and not to discuss it with my Off-board dinner guests then you "feeding" into the drama is why I'll be back to bump another thread. See how that works? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 4:13:15 GMT
Jesus Olan, your rambling makes you seem like you're on drugs or drunk. I don't even know what the hell you just said. Just a bunch of random gibberish trying to convince everyone that you're not trying to cause drama. Ugh.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 23, 2017 6:14:05 GMT
Has somebody actually asked you for a link to this thread?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 23, 2017 12:52:41 GMT
Has somebody actually asked you for a link to this thread? Most likely not, it's just a way to seek attention! |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Sept 23, 2017 14:24:15 GMT
This pea has always been a strong one, a challenging one, someone worthy of thought and respect. She has always been coherent. This is no longer the case. Sad.
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Post by Olan on Sept 24, 2017 10:54:02 GMT
This pea has always been a strong one, a challenging one, someone worthy of thought and respect. She has always been coherent. This is no longer the case. Sad. This pea lives in South Africa and believes I value her opinion. Annie and Paper are desperate for engagement. If you click the blue or possibly combine Olan+their screen name you'll see how Paper will come into a discussion between another pea and I simply because I refuse to address her. You guys were helpful in pointing out that pattern during the Beyoncé thread I think. Now If I was being inflammatory and dramatic that would be the thread to bump no? Also Annie could be ignored by me 5+ times in a thread yet she still comes back *shrugs* kinda useful though because a pea thing is being embarrassed when you are the last poster on a thread. Much Like being the last to say something in an actual conversation. Annie likes having the last word so I never feel like I am closing a thread down hahaha |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 24, 2017 11:24:31 GMT
This pea has always been a strong one, a challenging one, someone worthy of thought and respect. She has always been coherent. This is no longer the case. Sad. This pea lives in South Africa and believes I value her opinion. As this is an international board, this comment makes no sense at all. Rather in unison with the rest of your posts, now I come to think of it. |
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Post by lesley on Sept 24, 2017 12:52:38 GMT
This pea lives in South Africa and believes I value her opinion. As this is an international board, this comment makes no sense at all. Rather in unison with the rest of your posts, now I come to think of it. Of course it makes sense anniebygaslight. You or I wouldn't have triggered that response, because we're not in South Africa, and therefore cannot be deemed racist simply because of where we live.  |
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Post by Olan on Sept 24, 2017 12:59:19 GMT
As this is an international board, this comment makes no sense at all. Rather in unison with the rest of your posts, now I come to think of it. Of course it makes sense anniebygaslight . You or I wouldn't have triggered that response, because we're not in South Africa, and therefore cannot be deemed racist simply because of where we live. Allow ScrapsonRock to have her own response this doesn't involve you. You guys gang up on me and then get surprised when I'm unbothered. Many of you lack critical thinking skills and can't see that I use the same cadence for my rebuttal that she used in her response. Her location is something I recall because she made a comment in a thread titled My Son Got Called a Racist and never returned to respond. Edit: Annie's name contains the word gaslight. *bangs head* wow. |
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Post by Olan on Sept 24, 2017 13:01:44 GMT
"When PoCs speak on racism, racist whites come out of the woodwork to whitesplain why history, statistical data and firsthand accounts proving the existence of racism is anecdotal. However their fictitious tales about being teased by the mean “black girls” in third grades as scientific fact.
"The reality is whenever you’re a person of color speaking out against racism and white supremacy, it’s a safe bet that you will be on the receiving end of gaslighting. Gaslighting is defined as a form of psychological abuse in which the abuser attempts to manipulate the victim into questioning their memory, perception, and sanity. It is essentially the attempt of one person to overwrite another’s reality.
Gaslighting also occurs every time a white person tells a person of color not to bring race into a discussion or when they accuse PoCs of playing the race card."
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Post by happymomma on Sept 24, 2017 13:03:06 GMT
Why should she have to explain why she bumps a thread? Whether she wants to show a friend, start drama, exercise her fingertips, whatever.
I didn't know there were any rules regarding thread bumping.
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Post by Olan on Sept 24, 2017 13:08:43 GMT
Why should she have to explain why she bumps a thread? Whether she wants to show a friend, start drama, exercise her fingertips, whatever. I didn't know there were any rules regarding thread bumping. Thank you. The petty in me would love to bump every thread I've ever started especially the ones that get little response despite high view count but the growth in me prevents that  plus I know the peas love drama. They accuse me of it but if we compared the number of hours they log vs the hours I log well it would be clear which one of us deserves the label drama queen. I think many of you forget the number of years I participated without the black power spin hahaha I get the nature of the board. |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Sept 24, 2017 16:31:49 GMT
As this is an international board, this comment makes no sense at all. Rather in unison with the rest of your posts, now I come to think of it. Of course it makes sense anniebygaslight . You or I wouldn't have triggered that response, because we're not in South Africa, and therefore cannot be deemed racist simply because of where we live. Of course not. According to this very special pea, Nelson Mandela was a racist.  She just, out of the ends of her own fingers, proved some of the most hotly disputed arguments on the board regarding her posts, BTW. Broad brushstrokes, no brainpower. Thank you lesley and anniebygaslight. I saw the post before she added to it and as I am an equal opportunity offender (I ignore all kinds of idiots) I left it alone. I am happy to talk with you two though, any day, any subject. |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Sept 24, 2017 16:37:19 GMT
This pea lives in South Africa and believes I value her opinion. As this is an international board, this comment makes no sense at all. Rather in unison with the rest of your posts, now I come to think of it. Isn't it priceless when a pea has a moment like this, makes a post like that which, out of the tips of their own fingers, proves everything they have been denying for ages? Hoisted by their own petard. Thank you you for this post anniebygaslight . I saw the one liner earlier today before the addition and I chuckled, but as I am an equal opportunity ignorer of racist peas on both sides, I left it. I am happy to talk to you any time though. Peace. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 17:20:26 GMT
"When PoCs speak on racism, racist whites come out of the woodwork to whitesplain why history, statistical data and firsthand accounts proving the existence of racism is anecdotal. However their fictitious tales about being teased by the mean “black girls” in third grades as scientific fact. "The reality is whenever you’re a person of color speaking out against racism and white supremacy, it’s a safe bet that you will be on the receiving end of gaslighting. Gaslighting is defined as a form of psychological abuse in which the abuser attempts to manipulate the victim into questioning their memory, perception, and sanity. It is essentially the attempt of one person to overwrite another’s reality. Gaslighting also occurs every time a white person tells a person of color not to bring race into a discussion or when they accuse PoCs of playing the race card." You're going down the wrong track with your version of what " gaslighting" means as Annie's user name Olan. I can't speak for Annie but I'm guessing that her user name is either based on the 1940 'ish British film called Fanny by Gaslight which was based on a book and the plot has a setting in the late 1800's.........when Victorian Britain was lit by gas lamps. The book or film has nothing to do with racism or a WW2 phrase created by the British Royal Air Force. The meaning and uses of this was a term for aircraft landing with only candle lights on the landing strips/runway to guide their landings. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 24, 2017 17:35:07 GMT
"When PoCs speak on racism, racist whites come out of the woodwork to whitesplain why history, statistical data and firsthand accounts proving the existence of racism is anecdotal. However their fictitious tales about being teased by the mean “black girls” in third grades as scientific fact. "The reality is whenever you’re a person of color speaking out against racism and white supremacy, it’s a safe bet that you will be on the receiving end of gaslighting. Gaslighting is defined as a form of psychological abuse in which the abuser attempts to manipulate the victim into questioning their memory, perception, and sanity. It is essentially the attempt of one person to overwrite another’s reality. Gaslighting also occurs every time a white person tells a person of color not to bring race into a discussion or when they accuse PoCs of playing the race card." You're going down the wrong track with your version of what " gaslighting" means as Annie's user name Olan. I can't speak for Annie but I'm guessing that her user name is either based on the 1940 'ish British film called Fanny by Gaslight which was based on a book and the plot has a setting in the late 1800's.........when Victorian Britain was lit by gas lamps. The book or film has nothing to do with racism or a WW2 phrase created by the British Royal Air Force. The meaning and uses of this was a term for aircraft landing with only candle lights on the landing strips/runway to guide their landings. Precisely that. One glance at my avatar would have given Olan a clue. However, she is so busy looking for racism where it doesn't exist that she can't see the blindingly obvious. As for the gobbledygook in her edit - well, no, let's not give her the satisfaction. |
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Post by tara on Sept 24, 2017 17:50:26 GMT
You're going down the wrong track with your version of what " gaslighting" means as Annie's user name Olan. I can't speak for Annie but I'm guessing that her user name is either based on the 1940 'ish British film called Fanny by Gaslight which was based on a book and the plot has a setting in the late 1800's.........when Victorian Britain was lit by gas lamps. The book or film has nothing to do with racism or a WW2 phrase created by the British Royal Air Force. The meaning and uses of this was a term for aircraft landing with only candle lights on the landing strips/runway to guide their landings. Precisely that. One glance at my avatar would have given Olan a clue. However, she is so busy looking for racism where it doesn't exist that she can't see the blindingly obvious. As for the gobbledygook in her edit - well, no, let's not give her the satisfaction. Well now I want to see the movie! |
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Post by Olan on Sept 24, 2017 18:06:41 GMT
"When PoCs speak on racism, racist whites come out of the woodwork to whitesplain why history, statistical data and firsthand accounts proving the existence of racism is anecdotal. However their fictitious tales about being teased by the mean “black girls” in third grades as scientific fact. "The reality is whenever you’re a person of color speaking out against racism and white supremacy, it’s a safe bet that you will be on the receiving end of gaslighting. Gaslighting is defined as a form of psychological abuse in which the abuser attempts to manipulate the victim into questioning their memory, perception, and sanity. It is essentially the attempt of one person to overwrite another’s reality. Gaslighting also occurs every time a white person tells a person of color not to bring race into a discussion or when they accuse PoCs of playing the race card." You're going down the wrong track with your version of what " gaslighting" means as Annie's user name Olan. I can't speak for Annie but I'm guessing that her user name is either based on the 1940 'ish British film called Fanny by Gaslight which was based on a book and the plot has a setting in the late 1800's.........when Victorian Britain was lit by gas lamps. The book or film has nothing to do with racism or a WW2 phrase created by the British Royal Air Force. The meaning and uses of this was a term for aircraft landing with only candle lights on the landing strips/runway to guide their landings. I wasn't going down any track. I was pointing out the irony in her name. I'm sure that wasn't lost on many |
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Post by elaine on Sept 24, 2017 18:07:25 GMT
Do you ever read someone’s ignorant rambling attacks and just become embarrassed for them when it becomes apparent that they didn’t understand one iota what they took offense at? And then go on, at pains, to display that ignorance multiple times?
I do.
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 14:22:39 GMT
I'm sorry her actions are upsetting you.  But, I can't help but think that a call out thread such as this is more likely to increase contact between the two of you than to decrease it.  I know what you are saying, but just this past week Olan asked that people publicly call her out on her behavior when she was crossing the line. This is what she asked for. Damned if you do, harassed if you don't. Damned if you do? Really? This is what happens when white women are allowed to decide where’s the line and what constitutes crossing it. Note Olan didn’t engage in personal attacks, name calling, being snarky for no good reason etc. none of this was typical of my participation on the board. And before anyone says anything I don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of me bumping old threads. These threads should serve as a reminder of how open you were to hearing out a Black woman in America. Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling |
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Post by zella on Mar 18, 2021 21:22:47 GMT
My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced?
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 21:36:13 GMT
Let’s stop putting words in Olan’s mouth. I have no problem saying whatever it is on my heart. |
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Post by Legacy Girl on Mar 18, 2021 23:07:36 GMT
Truly don't mean to offend, but I'm genuinely curious. Why are you speaking of yourself in third person?
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 23:19:25 GMT
Truly don't mean to offend, but I'm genuinely curious. Why are you speaking of yourself in third person? Not offended. Glad you asked 😏 I tag myself for anyone wanting to research if I have in fact kept my participation free of personal attacks, name calling, generally bitchiness. Receipts essentially. I don’t speak of myself in third person during face to face interactions though online it’s helpful to hyperlink your reputation in a thread ripe with personal attacks. Excuse the pretentiousness of it all 🤣 |
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 23:25:15 GMT
Jesus Olan, your rambling makes you seem like you're on drugs or drunk. I don't even know what the hell you just said. Just a bunch of random gibberish trying to convince everyone that you're not trying to cause drama. Ugh. This was a really rough time for me as far as mental health goes. I had a really bad work environment in addition to everything Black people were experiencing as far as racial violence goes. I was likely high at the time of this “rambling”. I’ll remind everyone how trendy it is for white women to talk openly about their cannabis usage so it would be in pretty poor taste to damn me for it. I wouldn’t care if you did. Cannabis helps with not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. Especially people YOU don’t think highly of. 😏 no pun |
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Post by LiLi on Mar 18, 2021 23:25:16 GMT
My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced? A few thoughts... Your post here, shows you are probably not as sensitive to racial overtones as you think you are. Pointing out bias and racism is important wherever it occurs. You can have connections, with black people and still do and believe racist things. Using people you love to "prove" you aren't racist is gross (for lack of a better word). |
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Post by zella on Mar 19, 2021 13:38:59 GMT
My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced? A few thoughts... Your post here, shows you are probably not as sensitive to racial overtones as you think you are. Pointing out bias and racism is important wherever it occurs. You can have connections, with black people and still do and believe racist things. Using people you love to "prove" you aren't racist is gross (for lack of a better word). Aww, thanks LiLi. File this under can't win for losing. Yeah, if I said it was a friend I'd agree, but it's my husband for fuck's sake, and as i said, I'm more sensitive because hubby has been dealing with it his whole life. I haven't. He is calm about it. I am fit to be tied. I stand against racism anywhere I see it and always have. But sure, let's just keep on calling white allies names because they can't (apparently) say anything in this fight. So if I see racism I just have to stay quiet because I'm that dirty-word? You know, white? Of course it's important to point it out. But why not work where your words and anger are more likely to reach their intended targets? Here it's largely preaching to the choir. Oh, sure there are some bad apples here, but not the entire batch. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 13:57:43 GMT
If white is such a dirty word why are so many Black people dead behind nothing else but someone else’s hatred of them? You denying privilege and doing the woe is me act is predictable. Please stop making someone else responsible for the guilt you feel. You have Black family members to “unpack” that with why bring a complete stranger into the mix? For the people in the back... I CAN’T MAKE YOU FEEL ANYTHING. http://instagram.com/p/CMUdRA2FmLN |
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 13:57:54 GMT
A few thoughts... Your post here, shows you are probably not as sensitive to racial overtones as you think you are. Pointing out bias and racism is important wherever it occurs. You can have connections, with black people and still do and believe racist things. Using people you love to "prove" you aren't racist is gross (for lack of a better word). Aww, thanks LiLi. File this under can't win for losing. Yeah, if I said it was a friend I'd agree, but it's my husband for fuck's sake, and as i said, I'm more sensitive because hubby has been dealing with it his whole life. I haven't. He is calm about it. I am fit to be tied. I stand against racism anywhere I see it and always have. But sure, let's just keep on calling white allies names because they can't (apparently) say anything in this fight. So if I see racism I just have to stay quiet because I'm that dirty-word? You know, white? Of course it's important to point it out. But why not work where your words and anger are more likely to reach their intended targets? Here it's largely preaching to the choir. Oh, sure there are some bad apples here, but not the entire batch. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 19, 2021 14:03:38 GMT
Jesus Olan, your rambling makes you seem like you're on drugs or drunk. I don't even know what the hell you just said. Just a bunch of random gibberish trying to convince everyone that you're not trying to cause drama. Ugh. This was a really rough time for me as far as mental health goes. I had a really bad work environment in addition to everything Black people were experiencing as far as racial violence goes. I was likely high at the time of this “rambling”. I’ll remind everyone how trendy it is for white women to talk openly about their cannabis usage so it would be in pretty poor taste to damn me for it. I wouldn’t care if you did. Cannabis helps with not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. Especially people YOU don’t think highly of. 😏 no pun Thank you so much for sharing this tidbit. I think that being open about our personal struggles like this is empowering for everyone and goes a long way towards all of us seeing each other as human beings and not just a collection of internet posts (and this goes for all of us here - not just you). No condemnation here on any of what you said. I can only imagine how Black people have felt over the past few years and especially last year - if weed helped you through, particularly with mental illness, that’s awesome. I haven’t been responding to your recent posts because I don’t want to center myself in these discussions in any way, but I do read and ponder almost everything you post. Some of it makes me uncomfortable, and it’s probably better for me to just sit with that and listen some more instead of inserting myself in the conversation. |
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plus I know the peas love drama. They accuse me of it but if we compared the number of hours they log vs the hours I log well it would be clear which one of us deserves the label drama queen. I think many of you forget the number of years I participated without the black power spin hahaha I get the nature of the board. 
