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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 14:08:00 GMT
I wasn’t preaching to the choir and the responses (and complicit silence) should let everyone know I was and still am very much in the right place if I wanted to call out implicit bias and outright racism. You are in a hateful ass thread about a Black woman who did nothing but bring to the board issues of race and racial violence. But because no one wanted to deal with the complex emotions that come along with a “reckoning” like this, you decided instead to focus in on MY shortcomings instead of the societal ones you uphold every day. I was bullied and then called the bully. Now zella is trying to tell me I’d find more in your face racism someplace else. No one gets the irony in that? You do realize this isn’t an issue a Black person should even be tasked to fix. It’s like asking rape victims to corral the rapists. As much as white women love to boast about their Black family members why don’t you go over to Reddit and call out racism. See where it gets you🤷🏾♀️ |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 19, 2021 14:15:02 GMT
My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced? Not really your choice where she points out racism. What "level" of racism is worthy of pointing out? Where do you draw the line? That group is just a little racist so they shouldn't be called out? White liberal women have done so much to perpetuate the stereo types of black women, and have gaslighted them for years! At schools, in the work place, in the women's movement, every where liberals gather. It is time for white women to stop telling black women how to act, and time to support them. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 19, 2021 14:17:50 GMT
A few thoughts... Your post here, shows you are probably not as sensitive to racial overtones as you think you are. Pointing out bias and racism is important wherever it occurs. You can have connections, with black people and still do and believe racist things. Using people you love to "prove" you aren't racist is gross (for lack of a better word). Aww, thanks LiLi. File this under can't win for losing. Yeah, if I said it was a friend I'd agree, but it's my husband for fuck's sake, and as i said, I'm more sensitive because hubby has been dealing with it his whole life. I haven't. He is calm about it. I am fit to be tied. I stand against racism anywhere I see it and always have. But sure, let's just keep on calling white allies names because they can't (apparently) say anything in this fight. So if I see racism I just have to stay quiet because I'm that dirty-word? You know, white? Of course it's important to point it out. But why not work where your words and anger are more likely to reach their intended targets? Here it's largely preaching to the choir. Oh, sure there are some bad apples here, but not the entire batch. You sound like you care and are hurt. But you are making this about you. It is not about you. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 14:19:29 GMT
This was a really rough time for me as far as mental health goes. I had a really bad work environment in addition to everything Black people were experiencing as far as racial violence goes. I was likely high at the time of this “rambling”. I’ll remind everyone how trendy it is for white women to talk openly about their cannabis usage so it would be in pretty poor taste to damn me for it. I wouldn’t care if you did. Cannabis helps with not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. Especially people YOU don’t think highly of. 😏 no pun Thank you so much for sharing this tidbit. I think that being open about our personal struggles like this is empowering for everyone and goes a long way towards all of us seeing each other as human beings and not just a collection of internet posts (and this goes for all of us here - not just you). No condemnation here on any of what you said. I can only imagine how Black people have felt over the past few years and especially last year - if weed helped you through, particularly with mental illness, that’s awesome. I haven’t been responding to your recent posts because I don’t want to center myself in these discussions in any way, but I do read and ponder almost everything you post. Some of it makes me uncomfortable, and it’s probably better for me to just sit with that and listen some more instead of inserting myself in the conversation. If you can only imagine what I was going through where was your compassionate response? I remember you. 👀 My posts here at 2peas were very human (when I read some of my responses I get choked up, this is like a raw journal for me) and few responded in a compassionate way at all. After the election and with the continued racial violence against Black people, there likely wasn’t a Black person alive whose mental health was not suffering. So the idea that no one could see what I was going through here doesn’t ring true for me. What makes the most logical sense and would fall in line with past behavior is you saw what I was going through and were not moved to help. So umm no I was very vocal about how I was feeling and a small portion of the pea population was incredibly cruel. Another segment was silent as it happened. And then the rest jumped on or OFF the I hate Olan bandwagon depending on the climate at the time. Everyone thanks me now but the old threads speak for themselves |
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Post by Merge on Mar 19, 2021 14:32:29 GMT
Thank you so much for sharing this tidbit. I think that being open about our personal struggles like this is empowering for everyone and goes a long way towards all of us seeing each other as human beings and not just a collection of internet posts (and this goes for all of us here - not just you). No condemnation here on any of what you said. I can only imagine how Black people have felt over the past few years and especially last year - if weed helped you through, particularly with mental illness, that’s awesome. I haven’t been responding to your recent posts because I don’t want to center myself in these discussions in any way, but I do read and ponder almost everything you post. Some of it makes me uncomfortable, and it’s probably better for me to just sit with that and listen some more instead of inserting myself in the conversation. If you can only imagine what I was going through where was your compassionate response? I remember you. 👀 My posts here at 2peas were very human (when I read some of my responses I get choked up, this is like a raw journal for me) and few responded in a compassionate way at all. After the election and with the continued racial violence against Black people, there likely wasn’t a Black person alive whose mental health was not suffering. So the idea that no one could see what I was going through here doesn’t ring true for me. What makes the most logical sense and would fall in line with past behavior is you saw what I was going through and were not moved to help. So umm no I was very vocal about how I was feeling and a small portion of the pea population was incredibly cruel. Another segment was silent as it happened. And then the rest jumped on or OFF the I hate Olan bandwagon depending on the climate at the time. Everyone thanks me now but the old threads speak for themselves Ok, thanks for sharing your perspective. |
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Post by LiLi on Mar 19, 2021 16:35:38 GMT
Olan I just read through my participation early in this thread. I actually felt embarrassed to the point my face flushed and got hot. I am sorry for my insensitive comments. I am trying to learn and be better. I hear you, and although I can never truly understand what you go through, I definitely see some of the issues you face. Adding this in: Turn off notifications. This isn't going to do anything except make you look bad, too. It's like my two littlest bickering earlier. Oi, don't give it power.  Olan isn't the easiest to converse with. However, she only liked 3 posts of yours yesterday at the same exact time when you were both responding to one another during a conversation. Hardly stalking, definitely not harassing. Plus you have sworn at her and cursed at her again and again and she hasn't done that to you that I could find. I would like to go on the record and say I was completely wrong. What I emotionally want to do is delete, but I said it and am owning it. I remember what the title of this thread said, no way no how was it okay. Olan wasn't to blame in any part of this. I was wrong to imply they were equally to blame. Stating Olan was hard to converse with, was my issue and I am sorry I put that out there. I ended up a part of the pile on. Again, I apologize.
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 18:03:03 GMT
Olan I just read through my participation early in this thread. I actually felt embarrassed to the point my face flushed and got hot. I am sorry for my insensitive comments. I am trying to learn and be better. I hear you, and although I can never truly understand what you go through, I definitely see some of the issues you face. Adding this in: Turn off notifications. This isn't going to do anything except make you look bad, too. It's like my two littlest bickering earlier. Oi, don't give it power. Olan isn't the easiest to converse with. However, she only liked 3 posts of yours yesterday at the same exact time when you were both responding to one another during a conversation. Hardly stalking, definitely not harassing. Plus you have sworn at her and cursed at her again and again and she hasn't done that to you that I could find. I would like to go on the record and say I was completely wrong. What I emotionally want to do is delete, but I said it and am owning it. I remember what the title of this thread said, no way no how was it okay. Olan wasn't to blame in any part of this. I was wrong to imply they were equally to blame. Stating Olan was hard to converse with, was my issue and I am sorry I put that out there. I ended up a part of the pile on. Again, I apologize. I’m hard to converse with. People who love me have shared that AND observed that in my participation here. Ownership is not a bad thing. When I acknowledge I am not perfect I can stop trying to be and just get to the work of life. A funny: I have a 4yr old almost 5 yr old niece who acts JUST like me. It’s eye opening watching her weave a story together. I’m like what sis?! And my sister will say umm that’s exactly how you talk Lisa 🤣 I do appreciate you thinking about what you said back in 2017. It kinda leads me down the path of more ownership and asking myself “Why is it important these women own what they said to you”. I think the answer is to confirm I wasn’t as crazy as I felt. Still pondering |
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Post by Laurie on Mar 20, 2021 1:52:45 GMT
My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced? WITAF? So much wrong with this post. I will start with the simplest point...what makes you think she isn’t trying to address the racism over there too? Is there some sort of rule that says you can only address racism at one place at a time? |
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Post by Olan on Mar 20, 2021 2:09:24 GMT
I think what zella and a lot of other peas feel is that 2peas is a mostly liberal space without in your face racism. I’d agree with the fact that this is a mostly liberal crowd but that doesn’t at all mean there is no racism to tackle. Again all you’d have to do is look to the responses in this call out thread (my 2nd though btw the last was masked an an apology from you guessed it a liberal pea😉) to see that 2peas isn’t a racial utopia. The other thing to note is 2peas is/was the perfect space for me to speak my truth because THIS was the community I was apart of. No one treated me like it but that’s because you saw me as a Black woman who needed to STFU before seeing as a community member. A good read: amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/01/us/white-liberals-hypocrisy-race-blake/index.htmlLiberal women are the biggest support team for systematic racism. That’s just a fact: amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/06/racial-equality-working-class-americans-advocacywww.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/17/martin-luther-king-polite-racism-white-liberals/?outputType=ampElaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling [ Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling [ Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Search engine optimization activated |
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Post by hookturnian on Mar 20, 2021 2:27:16 GMT
Olan, I want to thank you for bumping all these threads. Clearly you have been trying for many years to raise race issues in America for Peas to discuss. It's also clear that many were dismissive of your efforts. You'd think that Trump being elected would have opened their eyes to the pervasiveness of racism in America.
I admit I lost respect for a number of peas. I also admit that if I had found 2peas back then I would not have joined. Thank you for not being cowed and for refusing to be run off. (Geez, the first few pages of "why does she even come here, she knows we all hate her". And the "muuuum she's looking at me!" Seriously! Grown women acting like primary school children)
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Post by Olan on Mar 20, 2021 3:33:34 GMT
Olan, I want to thank you for bumping all these threads. Clearly you have been trying for many years to raise race issues in America for Peas to discuss. It's also clear that many were dismissive of your efforts. You'd think that Trump being elected would have opened their eyes to the pervasiveness of racism in America. I admit I lost respect for a number of peas. I also admit that if I had found 2peas back then I would not have joined. Thank you for not being cowed and for refusing to be run off. (Geez, the first few pages of "why does she even come here, she knows we all hate her". And the "muuuum she's looking at me!" Seriously! Grown women acting like primary school children) I really appreciate you saying this. ❤️ |
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Post by zella on Mar 20, 2021 19:42:46 GMT
I'm genuinely sorry that you feel that way about this space, but I understand. I left for a couple of months for my own reasons, and may leave again. I just wish you could know how attacking me about this issue is utterly ridiculous. I have been working against racism since my 20's, even when surrounded by bigotry. The more I read, live and learn, the more I understand. For example I don't criticize the few times BLM protests turn violent. I understand why they do. I wish I could do more, but I am disabled; I can't march for example, or even be a part in a wheelchair. I wish I could. I will read your links. I wouldn't if I didn't care. |
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Post by zella on Mar 20, 2021 19:54:30 GMT
One more thing. I took this test. Perhaps you should too, any of the Peas. My results showed I had zero bias, and in fact slightly favored POC vs whites. It's virtually impossible to cheat or try to have a specific outcome on this "innate bias" test. Very interesting. testOver and out for me. I'm done. |
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Post by rodeomom on Mar 20, 2021 20:41:26 GMT
One more thing. I took this test. Perhaps you should too, any of the Peas. My results showed I had zero bias, and in fact slightly favored POC vs whites. It's virtually impossible to cheat or try to have a specific outcome on this "innate bias" test. Very interesting. testOver and out for me. I'm done. I took that test. It made no since to me. Because most of the time I had no idea which letter I was supposed to be using. My results: Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American children and African American children. I don't think this means anything. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 20, 2021 22:45:16 GMT
I'm genuinely sorry that you feel that way about this space, but I understand. I left for a couple of months for my own reasons, and may leave again. I just wish you could know how attacking me about this issue is utterly ridiculous. I have been working against racism since my 20's, even when surrounded by bigotry. The more I read, live and learn, the more I understand. For example I don't criticize the few times BLM protests turn violent. I understand why they do. I wish I could do more, but I am disabled; I can't march for example, or even be a part in a wheelchair. I wish I could. I will read your links. I wouldn't if I didn't care. I didn’t attack you. Why did you choose those words? I responded to you saying “My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced?” My first statement to you was please don’t put words in my mouth. You don’t know what I would say so it’s not only rude it’s presumptive AF. You also don’t get to tell me where to go or decide for me where racism is most pronounced. Merge mentioned being sympathetic to my plight but She doesn’t mention she tried to tell me how I should feel about another liberal pea attacking my character. That seems to be a common theme with liberal peas. You can’t decide what I take offense to. You can’t decide for me what’s racist and what’s not. And to what degree. You can’t tell me how I should feel about another pea wishing me death by police. You can’t accept an apology for me. That’s not your job. You don’t have that authority. It’s damaging to the trust any Black person would have in you as an ally. And zella a tip someone who has been an ally to Black people for even a short period of time WOULD NEVER. They wouldn’t whine white being a dirty word or take on the tone you did. They just wouldn’t. They also wouldn’t dare tell a Black person where they should go to find “real racism” they’d be shielding me from it. Every ally friend of mine recognized how damaging even this place was for a Black woman and would never tell me where I could go to find more damaging words or texts. Racism hurts. My 2peas experience hurt. I don’t know what that is so hard to understand. So when you say you’ve been an ally for decades and then come with the energy you came with...again I’ve found my people here and I’ve settled in. I rode out a lot of personal attacks on my character and overall fuckery to still be posting in 2021. The function of this thread was to run me away and it didn’t work. Instead the OP got shingles shortly after she authored this post 👀. My ancestors don’t play about me folks🩸🤣 So if you’d like to break up an incel group on Reddit or prevent the next January 6th you absolutely have my blessings. You mentioned not being able to March beside me but there is a lot to allyship work white women could be doing. This ain’t it. Perhaps before having your next allyship badge ceremony you could consult a panel of at least 3 Black people. Don’t include your husband for obvious reasons. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t include me though. Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling It wasn’t just Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling who showed her racist ass here at 2peas. However Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling was the only pea who dug her heels in and went out of her way to be antagonistic. If I am being honest had Papercraftadvocate and Peano’s full names been as easy a find (all of 5 seconds) I would have used my search engine optimization skills on them too. Anyway Elaine W. Shilling I hope you feel the shame you oughta feel for the way you spoke to me. If you watched Elaine double down on her hurtful racist comment over the years you should also feel shame. This is my hair flip! I am done explaining white supremacy to itself! |
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Post by Olan on Mar 20, 2021 22:59:00 GMT
Another thing:
If I’m advocating for the peas to become more active in social justice activism in an effort to prevent more Black citizens from being killed....I’m advocating and speaking on behalf of YOUR loved one no? Why in all the years did you never join me or offer any support? Hell you could have lead the charge!!! I would bet all my bitcoins the reception would have been so different!
Imagine if you had come and said hey ladies I’m scared for my husband. Or another pea had come and said Hey peas I’m scared for my young sons. Instead you sat around while I was attacked for bringing up issues no one wanted to discuss. Issues it turns out wouldn’t go away and would only intensify and turn into one interconnected shit show. Literally every thread I started could be bumped and be relevant right now almost 3-4 years later.
The number of interracial relationships doesn’t match the number of non-Black allies I see on the frontlines or even behind the scenes. That has always stood out to me. Especially since I have a several white family members and friends who have Black children.
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Post by Olan on Mar 20, 2021 23:05:20 GMT
I couldn't read all seven pages but from what I've gathered liking someones post is now abusive and bullying behavior. Calling someone a crazy bitch however is not. Listen I've got the memo. I've tried to allay fears regarding what nefarious reason would cause me to "like" new and old posts and will continue to like posts as I see fit. This is a public message board. For those who say I shut down dialogue: You can't insult me and then expect I engage you in a friendly manner. You can disagree with what I'm saying and still move on with your life. I disagree with a lot of the things I see here and yet I still had a great restorative weekend with family. That shouldn't be described as shutting down dialogue that just means I'm not going to entertain bullshit. I think Steve Urbanski should be charged with a hate crime and you don't. *shrugs* I think Beyonce/Oprah/Simone/Simone/Serena hate is really white women hating to see black women win but you disagree. Much like zingermack(sp) or librarylady(sp) I post articles I think the peas should know about. Ignore those threads if current events bother you. You could also call me a crazy bitter racist bitch like everyone else and go visit another thread! Am I missing something? For those who ask why I am still here: I am freeborn. For peas concerned about the "crowd" I'll bring over: If I wanted to invite a bunch of people who are as vehemently against racism (so if you are arguing with me does that mean you are for it?) as I am I would have already done so. Again I'll remind you this is a public message board. If you'd like to create a place where only white women can convene there is already a place for you somewhere else in the world wide web *shrugs*. Join them. They have cool costumesWow...you are reprehensible...unbelievable. Reprehensible? Howso? |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 20, 2021 23:44:16 GMT
I'm genuinely sorry that you feel that way about this space, but I understand. I left for a couple of months for my own reasons, and may leave again. I just wish you could know how attacking me about this issue is utterly ridiculous. I have been working against racism since my 20's, even when surrounded by bigotry. The more I read, live and learn, the more I understand. For example I don't criticize the few times BLM protests turn violent. I understand why they do. I wish I could do more, but I am disabled; I can't march for example, or even be a part in a wheelchair. I wish I could. I will read your links. I wouldn't if I didn't care. I didn’t attack you. Why did you choose those words? I responded to you saying “My goodness. I think there are so many places and examples of racism that are FAR worse than 2 Peas. Personally I can't recall this ever being an issue. Olan will say it's because I'm white. And I am. But my family is mixed race and I am FAR more sensitive to racial overtones than my black husband. Why not attack a Reddit board or something, where racism is far more pronounced?” My first statement to you was please don’t put words in my mouth. You don’t know what I would say so it’s not only rude it’s presumptive AF. You also don’t get to tell me where to go or decide for me where racism is most pronounced. Merge mentioned being sympathetic to my plight but She doesn’t mention she tried to tell me how I should feel about another liberal pea attacking my character. That seems to be a common theme with liberal peas. You can’t decide what I take offense to. You can’t decide for me what’s racist and what’s not. And to what degree. You can’t tell me how I should feel about another pea wishing me death by police. You can’t accept an apology for me. That’s not your job. You don’t have that authority. It’s damaging to the trust any Black person would have in you as an ally. And zella a tip someone who has been an ally to Black people for even a short period of time WOULD NEVER. They wouldn’t whine white being a dirty word or take on the tone you did. They just wouldn’t. They also wouldn’t dare tell a Black person where they should go to find “real racism” they’d be shielding me from it. Every ally friend of mine recognized how damaging even this place was for a Black woman and would never tell me where I could go to find more damaging words or texts. Racism hurts. My 2peas experience hurt. I don’t know what that is so hard to understand. So when you say you’ve been an ally for decades and then come with the energy you came with...again I’ve found my people here and I’ve settled in. I rode out a lot of personal attacks on my character and overall fuckery to still be posting in 2021. The function of this thread was to run me away and it didn’t work. Instead the OP got shingles shortly after she authored this post 👀. My ancestors don’t play about me folks🩸🤣 So if you’d like to break up an incel group on Reddit or prevent the next January 6th you absolutely have my blessings. You mentioned not being able to March beside me but there is a lot to allyship work white women could be doing. This ain’t it. Perhaps before having your next allyship badge ceremony you could consult a panel of at least 3 Black people. Don’t include your husband for obvious reasons. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t include me though. My bold... but I can not agree with this more |
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Post by zella on Mar 21, 2021 19:26:42 GMT
Olan and the others: I know my heart. It's hard to make your true feelings come across in print. But you have NO idea the things I've done, or said, or how I feel. Now fuck off and find someone else to bother.
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Post by Olan on Mar 21, 2021 20:42:27 GMT
You do recognize you “bothered” me first right? I didn’t ask you to weigh in on where I should go as a Black woman. And it was also you who insisted you knew how I would respond thus baiting me to respond. When I let you know if I cared I would share you could have left it at that. Maybe even considering I don’t have the energy to give a fuck about what you are doing given all the other things in the world I have to contend with. You engaged me first and then when you were bested it becomes an attack. Again a Karen/liberal pea commonality...minding the business that doesn’t pay you. And in doing so yes the words you type do reveal your heart.
You may feel big telling me to fuck off but what you are likely feeling (since you brought out the crystal ball) is cornered by truth.
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How could a racist have Black family members or friends? The same way serial killers has family members still living.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 22, 2021 2:51:09 GMT
Olan and the others: I know my heart. It's hard to make your true feelings come across in print. But you have NO idea the things I've done, or said, or how I feel. Now fuck off and find someone else to bother. Part of being an advocate or an ally is the acknowledgement, that what's in your heart, or what your intention is, doesn't not matter if you are offending the people you are advocating for. Listen, learn, do the work. No one is perfect. We all have things we can learn. It takes courage and compassion to say, yes I f'd that up, I still have work to do. I hope maybe you can learn something from Olan, she has a lot to teach us. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 1:29:22 GMT
Jesus Olan, your rambling makes you seem like you're on drugs or drunk. I don't even know what the hell you just said. Just a bunch of random gibberish trying to convince everyone that you're not trying to cause drama. Ugh. This was a really rough time for me as far as mental health goes. I had a really bad work environment in addition to everything Black people were experiencing as far as racial violence goes. I was likely high at the time of this “rambling”. I’ll remind everyone how trendy it is for white women to talk openly about their cannabis usage so it would be in pretty poor taste to damn me for it. I wouldn’t care if you did. Cannabis helps with not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. Especially people YOU don’t think highly of. 😏 no pun Did you really just quote something I said 4 years ago to try to prove me racist? Whatever. Fuck off Olan. You're a drama filled bitch and your continued bumping of old threads does nothing except show how you love to stir the pot. So kiss my ass and leave me out of your future drama. Oh, also; one last fuck you for good measure. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 23, 2021 13:27:35 GMT
Look at you still the same woman you were 4 years ago.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 23, 2021 15:25:21 GMT
This was a really rough time for me as far as mental health goes. I had a really bad work environment in addition to everything Black people were experiencing as far as racial violence goes. I was likely high at the time of this “rambling”. I’ll remind everyone how trendy it is for white women to talk openly about their cannabis usage so it would be in pretty poor taste to damn me for it. I wouldn’t care if you did. Cannabis helps with not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. Especially people YOU don’t think highly of. 😏 no pun Did you really just quote something I said 4 years ago to try to prove me racist? Whatever. Fuck off Olan. You're a drama filled bitch and your continued bumping of old threads does nothing except show how you love to stir the pot. So kiss my ass and leave me out of your future drama. Oh, also; one last fuck you for good measure. WOW that is so rude of you. Why are you so hateful? Your response to Olan totally makes her point. I think you might want to look in the mirror before you call someone a "drama filled bitch". |
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Post by Olan on Mar 23, 2021 15:44:46 GMT
Olan and the others: I know my heart. It's hard to make your true feelings come across in print. But you have NO idea the things I've done, or said, or how I feel. Now fuck off and find someone else to bother. If we combine her fuck off and then Little Miss Stagnant’s double fuck off we’ve got 3! That’s not counting pages 1-8 either 😎 And of course my treatment has absolutely nothing to do with me being a Black woman you can’t run off. Common phrases: I know my heart. I have black friends. I have an adopted X I marched with Martin Luther King (yes a pea said it) This has nothing to do with the color of your skin. Fuck off I champion x I am *lists protected group* |
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Post by zella on Mar 25, 2021 17:48:51 GMT
You can be a jerk of any color or creed. You're behaving like a jerk and I see why you have so many issues on here.
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Post by LiLi on Mar 28, 2021 1:47:47 GMT
Did you really just quote something I said 4 years ago to try to prove me racist? Whatever. Fuck off Olan. You're a drama filled bitch and your continued bumping of old threads does nothing except show how you love to stir the pot. So kiss my ass and leave me out of your future drama. Oh, also; one last fuck you for good measure. What exactly did she say that garnered that response? That was unkind and nasty. Stirring the pot? Or posting things us think of things that are sometimes raw and uncomfortable so we can make an effort to fix the problem of systemic racism ... to make life better for all? I can honestly say, Olan's posts make me think. I hope there are others that feel the same. Olan, you are definitely NOT crazy. Your struggle here is real, and I see it. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 31, 2021 14:53:24 GMT
You can be a jerk of any color or creed. You're behaving like a jerk and I see why you have so many issues on here. Describe the way in which I’m behaving like a jerk? What issues do I have outside of the same ones that exist offline. White people wanting to ignore racism and their culpability in it isn’t new and isn’t MY issue by the way. |
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Post by sabrinae on Mar 31, 2021 15:06:33 GMT
You can be a jerk of any color or creed. You're behaving like a jerk and I see why you have so many issues on here. The two being hateful jerks right now are you and mama of dudes. Racism and society’s role in it is uncomfortable. It should make people uncomfortable. I appreciate the posting of peas of color including Olan - it makes me continuously reasses myself and my own actions and where I fall short and where maybe I get some things right. As an aside, I’m never sure which terms I should use whether it be people of color or some other term so feel free to correct me if I’m using inappropriate terms. |
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Post by flanz on Mar 31, 2021 17:57:13 GMT
Olan, I want to thank you for bumping all these threads. Clearly you have been trying for many years to raise race issues in America for Peas to discuss. It's also clear that many were dismissive of your efforts. You'd think that Trump being elected would have opened their eyes to the pervasiveness of racism in America. I admit I lost respect for a number of peas. I also admit that if I had found 2peas back then I would not have joined. Thank you for not being cowed and for refusing to be run off. (Geez, the first few pages of "why does she even come here, she knows we all hate her". And the "muuuum she's looking at me!" Seriously! Grown women acting like primary school children) I agree with this. I am not familiar with the posts on the first many pages of this thread but I know you, Olan , to be a beautiful Black woman and your sharing your truth here, your calling us out on bullshit racist behaviors and your providing resources via links (not your job, as in we white people shouldn't expect Black people to educate us!) is all very much appreciated by me. Thank you! I also appreciate and respect the peas who have been listening and learning and growing and who are in this conversation as well as doing the work of anti-racism. It's lifelong work, important work. |
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