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Post by darkangel090260 on Jul 31, 2017 20:43:24 GMT
1. go up to parents my self and ask them as nicely as possible t o get there children under control 2. if that did not help would ask the flight attendant to deal with it them. 3. Stand up walk back get down on their level and then in my best mom voice tell them to sit down shut up and do not move again. Pretty much the point my kids would be taking cover.
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The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jul 31, 2017 20:54:42 GMT
Compwalla wins!
Yes, there are worse things than annoying children.
On a serious note, when we flew this summer, my dad's O2 ran out early (he is on oxygen). He passed out. We almost emergency landed. Luckily there were EMTs and a nurse on board and o2 canisters. We were in coach and my parents were in first class, so I didn't see him passed out. They had him awake by the time they came back and got us.
So, yeah. Worse things can happen.
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Post by mom2jnk on Jul 31, 2017 21:03:53 GMT
I feel for you. Three times i have been on flights turns into a nightmare by out of control children. Two of those involved parents constantly feeding the or kids candy throughout the flight. It was like being part of a PSA about how NOT to fly with kids. In those two cases, repeated requests by passengers to flight attendants were met with shrugs and smiles. The airlines were United and Delta. And then there was the Delta flight from Orlando to Chicago when FA told a passenger wih a cat in a carrier that she could let it out once they got up in the air. And yes, the FA was serious. Passengers around pre-preemptively complained and the FA got very angry at them. The cat owner herself kept saying she would never let the cat out on a plane and did not. But still. Stupid and unsafe. Sadly, I wonder if it is corporate policy that flight attendants are prohibited from disciplining or correcting children who are misbehaving. In our age of highly entitled parents and children, this would not surprise me in the least.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 31, 2017 21:16:05 GMT
This is first and foremost a safety issue. Yes, unbearably annoying, but the complaint shouldn't be about that. Complain about safety. That's really good advice. It keeps the emotions and opinions out of it while maintaining the focus on what is most important. I have a round-trip trans-Atlantic flight coming up and now I'm considering the possibility of being in the air with a dead body for 15 plus hours. Thanks, peas!
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 31, 2017 22:26:07 GMT
I feel for you. Three times i have been on flights turns into a nightmare by out of control children. Two of those involved parents constantly feeding the or kids candy throughout the flight. It was like being part of a PSA about how NOT to fly with kids. In those two cases, repeated requests by passengers to flight attendants were met with shrugs and smiles. The airlines were United and Delta. And then there was the Delta flight from Orlando to Chicago when FA told a passenger wih a cat in a carrier that she could let it out once they got up in the air. And yes, the FA was serious. Passengers around pre-preemptively complained and the FA got very angry at them. The cat owner herself kept saying she would never let the cat out on a plane and did not. But still. Stupid and unsafe. Sadly, I wonder if it is corporate policy that flight attendants are prohibited from disciplining or correcting children who are misbehaving. In our age of highly entitled parents and children, this would not surprise me in the least. I am not singling you out, but since there have been a few comments like this, I felt the need to respond. I am really skeptical that this is true. I have seen flight attendants on multiple airlines tell parents to keep their kids in check for doing things that are much less disruptive or dangerous than described in the OP. Things like walking with their kids up and down the aisle quietly, or letting their kids sit on the floor in front of their seats, or watching devices without headphones (I am not saying any of those things are OK, just that they are less disruptive than what OP described). I mean, if I have a kid unlatch a tray at the wrong time, the attendants are on it like a shot went off (not that I'm not on it too, just saying). I would be shocked if any airline was telling flight attendants to back off kids, particularly since the comments tend to go 90/10 anti-kid any time that there is an online article about kids on airlines. I mean, I didn't put this in my last post, but I once had a flight attendant literally run over one of my kids who was walking to the airline bathroom in the aisle like any passenger would do. Flight attendant didn't see the kid because she was pushing a cart. No harm, no foul -- kid was fine, honest mistake. But the flight attendant lit into me about the fact that the KID was in the AISLE (seven, going to the bathroom, like an adult might). I sincerely doubt they're being told to kid-glove parents.
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Post by peasapie on Jul 31, 2017 22:57:14 GMT
OP, you have my utmost commiserations. This scenario is my absolute worst nightmare! I regrettably have no advice to give but will be following your thread hoping the peas have a gem or two. My worst nightmare is the pilot was out drinking all night last night and failed to run all the checklists resulting in a fiery crash into the side of a mountain. My second-worst nightmare is that the person sitting next to me dies and I have to fly next to a dead body for several hours because there is already someone in the corpse closet. haha gee, now I have a few things to think about when I fly! I don't imagine legally they can make kids buckle in when the rest of the plane is free to get up. Imagine the lawsuits. "Enmity Airlines discriminates against children by strapping them into seats." They can't penalize parents by telling them they cannot drink, and flight attendants aren't there to maintain discipline, the parents are. Doing any of that would be a walking lawsuit. It sure is annoying as hell, isn't it? I take a lot of public transportation - planes, trains and buses - and I always have headphones and my iPad for this reason. (Even MORE offensive for me is when someone takes out an onion and liverwurst sandwich and proceeds to eat it beside me. Nowhere to hide from THAT horror.)
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Aug 1, 2017 0:11:39 GMT
I feel for you. Three times i have been on flights turns into a nightmare by out of control children. Two of those involved parents constantly feeding the or kids candy throughout the flight. It was like being part of a PSA about how NOT to fly with kids. In those two cases, repeated requests by passengers to flight attendants were met with shrugs and smiles. The airlines were United and Delta. And then there was the Delta flight from Orlando to Chicago when FA told a passenger wih a cat in a carrier that she could let it out once they got up in the air. And yes, the FA was serious. Passengers around pre-preemptively complained and the FA got very angry at them. The cat owner herself kept saying she would never let the cat out on a plane and did not. But still. Stupid and unsafe. Sadly, I wonder if it is corporate policy that flight attendants are prohibited from disciplining or correcting children who are misbehaving. In our age of highly entitled parents and children, this would not surprise me in the least. Safety rules are FAA law, and corporate policy is never above law. So this is a no for sure as it's not possible.
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Post by frenchie on Aug 1, 2017 0:49:18 GMT
I flew for AA for many years and I can say that what the OP described is not anything I ever witnessed on any of my flights. That said, I had my fair share of unruly passengers--adult and child--but never to the extent of the above.
We were never told that we couldn't reprimand a child. Safety has to be first. FAA regs state that all passengers must be seated with seat belts when the seatbelt sign is on. If ithe sign isn't on, it's strongly suggested, but you can't force someone to stay in their seat if they need to get up. I can't imagine flight attendants on any US carrier putting up with that behavior from both the parents and the children. The flight attendants absolutely should have intervened. I think you should write a letter to the airline about it. Make sure to include flight number, to/from, and date of flight. They will definitely contact the crew and ask questions.
Someone mentioned maybe it was a non- rev pilot and the f/as didn't say anything to them because of that, but that would be a sure way to lose their jobs (the non revs and the working crew)
If someone passes away on a flight and they don't make an unscheduled landing because of it, the crew will try their best to move the body to the last row if at all possible. On a completely full flight though, that could be difficult.
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Post by mallie on Aug 1, 2017 4:46:36 GMT
I feel for you. Three times i have been on flights turns into a nightmare by out of control children. Two of those involved parents constantly feeding the or kids candy throughout the flight. It was like being part of a PSA about how NOT to fly with kids. In those two cases, repeated requests by passengers to flight attendants were met with shrugs and smiles. The airlines were United and Delta. And then there was the Delta flight from Orlando to Chicago when FA told a passenger wih a cat in a carrier that she could let it out once they got up in the air. And yes, the FA was serious. Passengers around pre-preemptively complained and the FA got very angry at them. The cat owner herself kept saying she would never let the cat out on a plane and did not. But still. Stupid and unsafe. Sadly, I wonder if it is corporate policy that flight attendants are prohibited from disciplining or correcting children who are misbehaving. In our age of highly entitled parents and children, this would not surprise me in the least. Well, i know it can be dangerous. Last weekend i told two elementary school age kids who came into our store without parent w that they could not enter without shoes. Pretty basic, right? Parents come in w nd go off on me. Get verbally abusive and threaten physical violence to me. In front of dozens of people, in public. It ha made me quite leery of saying anything to kids, even for safety reasons. So f after thst, there is no way I would have gone up to drunk and belligerent parents on a plane and said anything.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Aug 1, 2017 4:47:38 GMT
Wow, the 1st tier peas are reading expressions of horror literally today (or were doing so last night?)
Got it. Hands duly slapped.
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Post by miominmio on Aug 1, 2017 6:51:03 GMT
Never ever fly Norwegian! Like NEVER!!!! I would rather swim across the Atlantic, towing my family behind me in a dinghy than fly with Norwegian.
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Post by annie on Aug 1, 2017 14:49:18 GMT
Book first class next time. They're virtually kid-free. Ah, rich people. /eyeroll
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Post by merry on Aug 1, 2017 15:12:04 GMT
Definitely write them. And feel good - this thread has had 1800+ views and all of us now know not to fly Norwegian!
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Aug 1, 2017 15:20:39 GMT
Book first class next time. They're virtually kid-free. Ah, rich people. /eyeroll I'm not rich, lmao. My comment is supposed to be funny, if my girl friend sat next to me telling this story, I'd say we need to book first class next time or jump from the plane. Or pack a costco pack of benydryl...
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