Just when he couldn't hit a new low..

The one Trump supporter I know is already spinning it hard. She says "what he meant was that the husband knew that he could die while serving his country, but bravely signed up anyway because he was willing to make that sacrifice". That it came out wrong during the call, and was taken out of context.

Sorry, but nope. If he meant that, he needed to have said that, even if he had to read it off of a piece of paper to make sure he got it right. Or immediately corrected himself and apologized for it coming out wrong.

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Yes, I can kinda sorta see that it could have been meant in a complimentary way, but then why wouldn't Trump say so? Why say the whole thing was fabricated?

This is not direct quotes, just what I think I remember.
The 'mother' is now speaking out. Quote for mother because Rep Wilson stated on The View that his mother died when he was young. The aunt and uncle raised him. There was also an Army officer in the limo and Wilson stated that he was holding the phone on speaker, so every in the limo heard the call. Wilson stated that she ha known him and the family since he was very young, She was the principal of the school he attended at the time.
They were the limo on the way to meet his body and dt knew they were on the way.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/355997-mother-of-fallen-soldier-trump-did-disrespect-my-family

Say stupid shit. Back-pedal. Swear you didn't say it.

Repeat.

This is what he does.

It's beyond the pale that the current POTUS has politicized fallen service members and their families. Repeatedly.

Not from where I'm sitting!

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Yes, I can kinda sorta see that it could have been meant in a complimentary way, but then why wouldn't Trump say so? Why say the whole thing was fabricated?

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Don't you miss having a president who doesn't need an interpreter?

Me three! Trump was the worst possible candidate I could possibly think of, but of course he's surprised us all with more cruelness than anyone ever expected. I mean, who disses families of fallen soldiers? Their loved one died to protect us and the families deserve nothing but solace, honor, and kindness during their grief.

He is his own worst enemy. Stories have been coming out all day about contacts NOT made...even a personal promise of a $25,000 gift/donation to the father of a fallen soldier that was never received.

HE opened this door. HE said former Presidents didn't contact the families of fallen soldiers. HE politicized the death of General Kelly's son. HE opens his mouth and bullshit rolls out and then we are wading in the stink for days.

Too many times what he refers to as fake news are headlines of his own making.

He is a disrespectful and infuriating piece of shit.

while I agree in part I also have to think that ignoring his asshattery isn't a good idea either.  Just because he is an asshat constantly do we ignore because he is who he is, or speak out each.and.every.time. so that it doesn't become our new normal.  Because it.is.not.normal.  (please make it go away)

I feel for the family and think they should be respected but if they want to speak out about it, so be it.  I also believe I heard the congresswoman on the View (doing other things- not listening closely) say that she has known the family forever and the young man that was killed all (or most) of his life so she too feels the closeness that normally might not be there.


 www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcnlLwwR5x4   (googled)  at about 5:30 she says she has a mentoring program that LaDavid and his brothers have been through and she's known the family her whole life.

Me three....... It had better be a BIG bench! 

m.sfgate.com/news/texas/article/Solace-or-silence-Not-all-families-of-fallen-get-12288992.php

WASHINGTON (AP) — Some got sympathy and solace. Some got silence. One got a promise of cash.
Relatives of people who died in military service have recounted varied interactions with President Donald Trump in the difficult days and weeks after their loved one's death. Despite Trump's boast that he reaches out personally to all families of the fallen, interviews with families members did not support his claim. Some never heard from him at all, and a few who did came away more upset.
The Associated Press reached out to the families of all 43 people who have died in military service since Trump became president and made contact with about half the families. Of those who would address the question, relatives of nine said they had heard from Trump by phone or mail. Relatives of nine others said they haven't.
Several spoke of being comforted by Trump but at least one call went awry: Cowanda Jones-Johnson told the AP that Trump spoke disrespectfully of her fallen nephew, Sgt. La David Johnson, when he called family members Tuesday. Johnson was among four servicemen killed in Niger earlier this month.
Chris Baldridge of Zebulon, North Carolina, told The Washington Post that Trump promised him $25,000 of his own money when they spoke in the summer about the loss of his son, Army Sgt. Dillon Baldridge, killed in Afghanistan, but the check never came. The White House said Wednesday, after the report, that "the check has been sent."

Others waited for calls that did not come.
After Army Sgt. Jonathon M. Hunter died in a suicide bombing attack in Afghanistan in August, his family was told to expect a call from Trump. But it didn't happen. Hunter, 23, from Columbus, Indiana, died 32 days into his first deployment since joining the Army in 2014.
Mark Hunter, his father, said a military casualty officer informed the family that Trump would call and the family was let down when he didn't.
"Disappointed that he at least didn't call and thank me for my son and our ultimate sacrifice," Hunter said. "That's all I wanted to hear. He didn't have to say nothing else. That's all I wanted to hear. From him — not the vice president."
The family spoke with Vice President Mike Pence, who grew up in the same southern Indiana city, at the ceremony honoring the return of the soldier's remains at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. So did several other families who lost loved ones in uniform.
Calling every family member isn't a presidential tradition. Trump's recent predecessors have reached out to Gold Star families through letters, private meetings and invitations. For Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, who saw far more war dead on their watch, individual phone calls would have been a time-consuming task. Still, Trump this week used his calls as evidence of his support for the military, suggesting he did more to honor the families than his predecessors.
"I think I've called every family of someone who's died," Trump said, then adding, "virtually everybody." He said it's his practice both to make phone calls and send letters.
Trump spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders repeated the claim Wednesday, saying the president "has made contact with all of the families that have been presented to him through the White House Military Office." She did not say whether that contact necessarily meant a phone call, or only a letter, and she did not not address the specifics of why families of some war dead have received neither.
When someone is killed in action, a Pentagon officer notifies next of kin and sends information to the White House office that is confirmed and assembled. "Once that process is completed, the president or other members of the administration can engage in contact," she said

That process appears to have broken down.
After Army Spc. Christopher Michael Harris, 25, of Jackson Springs, North Carolina, was killed in a suicide attack in Afghanistan in August, the White House offered to set up a call but "it fell through" and no letter came from the president, either, said his widow, Brittany Harris.
Aaron Butler, a 27-year-old guardsman from Monticello, Utah, was killed Aug. 16 at a booby-trapped building in Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan. His mother, Laura Butler, and family spokesman Bill Boyle said Trump has not called or sent a letter. The family is not complaining. "The family is very careful that they do not want to be pulled into a partisan slugfest," Boyle said.
Jodie Missildine's 20-year-old stepson, Alex Missildine, was killed Oct. 1 when an IED exploded near his vehicle in Ninawa Province, Iraq. He had been in Iraq for less than a month.
Jodie Missildine said the family had received an outpouring of support from Washington since receiving news of Alex's death. But when asked if Trump had been in contact, she demurred, saying, "We will not speak ill of a president who adores his troops."
In his claims, Trump made no distinction between combat and non-combat deaths. Past practice suggests that those who die fighting are more likely than military-accident victims to prompt a president to reach out personally to the family.
After U.S. Army Specialist Isiah Booker died Jan. 7 in Jordan, apparently when operating heavy construction equipment, President Barack Obama did not call. Neither did Trump after he took office that month. Chereisa Booker, of Schertz, Texas, said Trump had taken office by the time a condolence letter was processed and she and her husband received the letter. They also asked for and got one from Obama. But no calls.
Booker said "not really" when asked if she wanted to hear from Trump. But Sheila Murphy did after her son, Army Spc. Etienne J. Murphy, 22, died May 26 after an armored vehicle he was riding in rolled over in Syria.
"Because it was non-combat, I feel like maybe he thought it was an accident, it doesn't matter," Sheila Murphy said of Trump. "But my son was in Syria." She says she's waited in vain for a letter, even after writing to Trump six weeks ago to tell him she was still deeply grieving.
"I hate sunrises because I have to deal with another day that my son is not here," she told the AP Wednesday. "I welcome sunsets because I'm hoping that maybe when the sun goes down I won't have to deal with another sunrise. So sunrises are my enemy right now."
Cynthia Kimball received a letter from the president, but no call, after her Navy son John Henry Hoagland III died in the collision between the USS John S. McCain and a merchant vessel in August. "They said we could order more copies of it if we wanted," she said. "It was pretty generic. I hate to say that, because it did come from Washington and the president. But, I'm going to guess that it was the same or similar to the letter that everybody else received."
McCain, himself, though, called her and other families of the victims. He left a "really nice" phone message with his cell phone number in case she needed anything, she said. Kimball lives in Fort Benning, Georgia, and her son grew up in Cleveland, Texas.


Davies reported from Indianapolis. Associated Press writers Claudia Lauer in Dallas, Jonathan Drew in Raleigh, North Carolina, Emily Schmall in Fort Worth, Texas, Russ Bynum in Savannah, Georgia, Chris Carola in Albany, New York, Kristen de Groot in Philadelphia, Jennifer McDermott in Providence, Rhode Island, and Michelle Price in Salt Lake City contributed to this report.
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This story corrects that Sgt. La David Johnson was Cowanda Jones-Johnson's nephew, not her son.
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White House: John Kelly ‘disgusted’ by the way his son’s death has been ‘politicized’
Geobeats
GEOBEATS
Oct 18th 2017 11:46PM

""General Kelly is disgusted by the way that this has been politicized, and that the focus has become on the process and not the fact that American lives were lost. I think he's disgusted and frustrated by that," Sanders said.

However, according to Axios, "It was President Trump who first mentioned Kelly’s son, when he told Brian Kilmeade on Fox News Radio to ask General Kelly if he ever got a call from President Obama after his son was killed in Afghanistan in 2010.” "

Enough said! dt opened the conversation!

She said in an interview that she had known SGT Johnson since he was very young and was close with the family.  She had been his principal in elementary school.  She also said that she thought Trump had alerted the media about the call and that is what they asked her about when they were retrieving the body.  I can see why she would have been so angry.

to bring it all up for them again, when they STILL don't know anything about how / why he died?  that's awful.