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Post by jackib on Sept 2, 2014 23:59:54 GMT
UPDATE
I belong to our School Foundation as a trustee, the Superintendent was at the meeting. She was giving the School Board meeting summary and said that they were looking for the new teacher. Five years ago Mr. N worked in school district "A". He was let go because of enrollment and budget cuts. He got the job in our district. Last year he was in Mexico, it was an unpaid leave (He called it a sabbatical) School District "A" contacted him and offered him a job back with them and he took it.
I joked about dusting off my teaching certificate and applying but I don't have the right endorsement for what they need.
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Last Tuesday we had Open House at school. Here we follow DD's schedule and the teachers spend 10 minutes telling us about the class.
Today we found out her Social Studies teacher quit. DD said he took another job in a different district. The kids will have a sub for about 2 weeks. I hope the sub is good and whoever they hire can get up to speed quickly. |
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Post by redshoes on Sept 3, 2014 0:06:00 GMT
That is a bummer! Hopefully the position will be filled soon!
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Post by annabella on Sept 3, 2014 0:06:35 GMT
I've read about this, maybe on this board, that it's common for teachers to quit at the start of school, why is that?
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jackib
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Post by jackib on Sept 3, 2014 0:09:15 GMT
The thing is he was on sabbatical all last year studying in Mexico and then comes back just to quit. If my certificate wasn't 15 years out of date I would consider applying
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 3, 2014 0:10:41 GMT
I've read about this, maybe on this board, that it's common for teachers to quit at the start of school, why is that? I would assume it's because everyone is playing musical classrooms before they settle in for the year. If a better job opportunity opens up at the last minute, you better take it before the year actually begins as you will be somewhat committed at that point, not to mention new positions are harder to come by later in the year. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 3, 2014 0:13:06 GMT
The thing is he was on sabbatical all last year studying in Mexico and then comes back just to quit. If my certificate wasn't 15 years out of date I would consider applying Strange. He must really dislike the position or school. I believe some schools will hire you on under the condition you renew your certificate. You should look into it. It doesn't hurt! ......Well, except your daughter maybe. ; |
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Post by Outspoken on Sept 3, 2014 0:14:44 GMT
My 8th grade daughter is in a similar situation. She takes Algebra Honors and the teacher has accepted another position within the same district. And the teacher did this about 5 days before school started. BUT since it is within the same district, the current principal has to give the teacher permission to leave. The principal won't sign off until the right replacement is found. And because it's Algebra Honors, I have a feeling it might not happen any time soon. Very interesting.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 3, 2014 0:22:52 GMT
One reason some teachers move is the money. However, after July 15th in my district, another school in town is not supposed to hire any teacher under contract. They are pretty good about not putting each other in a bind. But if you think of any other job, it is done all of the time. I think people expect teachers to stay put. This happened to my son with an AP class two years ago. The new teacher was better (according to my son), so no loss there.
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Post by jackib on Sept 3, 2014 0:28:29 GMT
I think leaving people in the lurch like that is very unprofessional in any situation. Of course what was going on in the other district that they could hire him at the last minute like that. Did they have someone quit, larger than expected class size... I am guessing that he interviewed quite awhile ago.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 3, 2014 0:31:19 GMT
I've read about this, maybe on this board, that it's common for teachers to quit at the start of school, why is that? It's NOT common honestly. Does it happen?? Sure does and it's usually because offers come late. He may have gotten a better position somewhere. Here in NYS---you're required to give 30 days notice and you can be held to those 30 days. (a friend's daughter was and the school she is going to is ok with that as most are). |
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Post by christine58 on Sept 3, 2014 0:33:02 GMT
The thing is he was on sabbatical all last year studying in Mexico and then comes back just to quit. If my certificate wasn't 15 years out of date I would consider applying Strange. He must really dislike the position or school. I believe some schools will hire you on under the condition you renew your certificate. You should look into it. It doesn't hurt! ......Well, except your daughter maybe. ; Where I teach, when you're granted a sabbatical you HAVE to come back and teach for a year. (some sabbaticals are paid) If you leave, you have to pay back the district. I know of two cases that this happened. |
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Post by SabrinaM on Sept 3, 2014 0:53:10 GMT
The thing is he was on sabbatical all last year studying in Mexico and then comes back just to quit. If my certificate wasn't 15 years out of date I would consider applyingDo it! I would imagine they will work with you on this. My sister had a 4 year degree (not in education) and was able to teach while getting her certification. She loves teaching and it's working out great for her! |
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Post by ellen on Sept 3, 2014 1:23:47 GMT
This kind of thing happens all the time. A lot of positions are opened in August as enrollments change. When we've had people leave right at the start of a school year it has usually been because the new job is a better geographic fit for them.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Sept 3, 2014 1:43:03 GMT
In our state, you have to have permission or you can lose your license. Our superintendent doesn't say no to someone wanting to leave. Our last one would say no unless you tried 2 years in a row.
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Post by Linda on Sept 3, 2014 3:43:10 GMT
I'm sorry. All three years of middle school, my daughter had at least one teacher switch jobs or retire mid-year...I think 5 teachers total over the 3 years
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 3, 2014 4:57:11 GMT
Tomorrow is our first day of school. We had a teacher go on leave at spring break and did not return. She is still listed as a teacher at our school as she hasn't resigned. She has a job elsewhere, yet the principal can't interview anyone yet.
poor kids will have a rotation of terrible subs for the first few weeks.ugh.
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jackib
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Post by jackib on Sept 3, 2014 11:00:53 GMT
gorgeouskid can't the administration just terminate her employment? It is so unfair to the kids.
Linda, that is crazy.
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Post by SabrinaP on Sept 3, 2014 11:04:26 GMT
Here, a teacher under contract would not be released to go take another teaching job. If it were an upward movement to administration, we will usually release them, but not for a lateral movement to another district. It's really hard to find good candidates at this point in the year.
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Post by iowgirl on Sept 3, 2014 12:15:19 GMT
Our teachers are also under contract and are not released without very good cause.
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Post by mimima on Sept 3, 2014 14:27:48 GMT
My oldest started kindergarten with a sub as his teacher accepted a new job right before the school year.
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Post by whiskerfish on Sept 3, 2014 14:35:48 GMT
Geez, that's pretty bad. I could maybe understand an unexpected family move out of state ( business transfer, family illness, etc.), but a local move? Unprofessional.
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Post by scrapaddie on Sept 3, 2014 15:23:37 GMT
I've read about this, maybe on this board, that it's common for teachers to quit at the start of school, why is that? In our state, you gave to quit by July 10. Quitting after that means the school can prevent you from teaching in another school for a year |
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Post by scrapaddie on Sept 3, 2014 15:27:04 GMT
Tomorrow is our first day of school. We had a teacher go on leave at spring break and did not return. She is still listed as a teacher at our school as she hasn't resigned. She has a job elsewhere, yet the principal can't interview anyone yet. poor kids will have a rotation of terrible subs for the first few weeks.ugh. She must be on medical leave. It is possible that it is mental health related, so that physically she can work, but perhaps not at her chosen profession? |
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 3, 2014 21:37:04 GMT
Tomorrow is our first day of school. We had a teacher go on leave at spring break and did not return. She is still listed as a teacher at our school as she hasn't resigned. She has a job elsewhere, yet the principal can't interview anyone yet. poor kids will have a rotation of terrible subs for the first few weeks.ugh. She must be on medical leave. It is possible that it is mental health related, so that physically she can work, but perhaps not at her chosen profession? It's possible. It's a confidential thing, so I don't actually know. I just think that whatever the situation, she should have resigned or contacted to submit a resignation so that the kids can get a real teacher. Having rotating subs is not a good thing for young children. Their sub today was one of the good subs, but he didn't know until this morning that he was working, so didn't have anything planned. We got him some things to hand out and have the kids get started working. |
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Post by Belia on Sept 3, 2014 23:37:46 GMT
The climate and relationships in my district are so bad that for the past several years, we've had teachers quit at the very last minute. Like, the day before school starts. They waited on purpose, not because they've had to. We also had someone who knew she was going to retire refuse to tell administration until the very last possible minute.
In our case, at least, the administration has reaped what they've sown. They've made our district a MISERABLE place to work and have shown no loyalty or compassion to their staff, so they shouldn't be surprised when none is returned.
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Post by Pahina722 on Sept 4, 2014 0:22:08 GMT
There are no requirements here for giving notice. Teachers sometimes do quit at the beginning of the year, usually because they were waiting for another position to be officially opened at another school or to be officially informed that they have the position.
While it can be hard on the kids, I can't imagine that in other careers, you'd expect a person to quit before she had official signed contract for new position in hand. Why would anyone expect a teacher to turn in her resignation and cross her fingers that the dream job would come through?
I totally get the teachers who are working in bad districts, too. My college has had several people wait until the absolute last minute to put in their notice simply because administration has made faculty lives hell.
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Post by Country Ham on Sept 4, 2014 0:36:18 GMT
I know someone teaching the next county over. She really really wants to teach here in her hometown. Trust me if a position opened up she would be on it like white on rice. Who could blame her. No more driving 40 mins one way to work etc.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 4, 2014 0:55:09 GMT
If it is this late, there is something very desirable about the new position to warrant a resignation that close to school startin as you will burned any chance of returning to that district or being hired by someone who knows th e principal you screwed.
So teachers commute for an hour each way, b if they could get a job in a neighborhood school, big am sure they would jump on it.
Positions open this late because there are a couple of teachers who give resignations late creating a ripple effect of job openings.
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Post by BSnyder on Sept 4, 2014 1:10:35 GMT
My son's MS is right now hiring new teachers they didn't know they needed. His school had an influx of students whose parents waited until the first week if school to register. There were over 30 8th graders in that group of unexpected students. Those extra students now require extra teachers at this late date. The late registrations are throwing the whole school into a flux. I'm sure there will be teachers transferring from other schools into these positions. Positions in your desired school are sometimes hard to come by at the perfect time. Even though it's not optimal timing for anyone, as a teacher, if that's where you what to be, you may have to choose to make the jump. I would be surprised if he didn't have reservations about the change.
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Post by maryland on Sept 4, 2014 2:16:43 GMT
We had something like that too when my daughter was in 7th grade. She had a great teacher, well liked, for the first 2 weeks. Then he was fired. She had subs for a couple months before she got a new teacher.
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