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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 28, 2017 1:12:02 GMT
He has no idea how to be appropriate in social situations.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 28, 2017 1:15:14 GMT
Frankly, I think Warren was in the wrong to try to get ahead by claiming she had Indian blood. (and I really DO have Indian blood-provable!) My grandchildren had to PROVE affiliation with a tribe before they were granted any federal scholarship money. Why didn't SHE have to prove hers?? THAT is where the fault lies! She is a liar!! I didn't know anything about warren and why he calls her Pocahontas but did some reading today. I would suggest doing the same before taking Trump or right wing media at their word on this topic. It doesn't seem as simple as saying that she "made it up to get ahead". Or believing that she actually did benefit from claiming Native American history (which it sounds like she does have). |
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Post by Clair on Nov 28, 2017 1:29:24 GMT
Frankly, I think Warren was in the wrong to try to get ahead by claiming she had Indian blood. (and I really DO have Indian blood-provable!) My grandchildren had to PROVE affiliation with a tribe before they were granted any federal scholarship money. Why didn't SHE have to prove hers?? THAT is where the fault lies! She is a liar!! I didn't know anything about warren and why he calls her Pocahontas but did some reading today. I would suggest doing the same before taking Trump or right wing media at their word on this topic. It doesn't seem as simple as saying that she "made it up to get ahead". Or believing that she actually did benefit from claiming Native American history (which it sounds like she does have). This. I didn’t know why he called her Pocahontas until today but... Whether Warren is telling the truth or lying is a separate issue. If she is lying - she is wrong. As far as checking she was Native American and not having to show proof and Donnie’s grandkids needing to prove it - I would probably think that requirements are different now. What trump did today was just wrong and shows how ignorant and insensitive he is. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 28, 2017 1:32:01 GMT
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362017-native-american-group-trump-pocahontas-line-smacks-of-racism At the very beginning of this video before he made the comments he said he asked General Kelly/Chief Kelly what about the 'code talkers' ............. About Warren... 'The experts' say that half the country thinks they have Native blood. My cousins and I have heard the stores for over 70 years that we had Native blood, but you know what? We don't! Well my cousins don't and we have the same grandfather. And their father and my mother were brother and sister. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 1:49:59 GMT
Newsweek.... “Barack Obama, not Donald Trump, may be invited to the royal wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle bit.ly/2k1IJdv” Boy I hope so. The only problem is thin skinned vengeful bully trump will rant about it for days. Oh it wouldn't surprise me that Pres Obama gets an invite as both him and Michelle are friends of Prince Harry. Trump won't though, not as Head of State and most definitely not a private personal invite. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 28, 2017 1:54:06 GMT
Dem senator slams Trump's 'moral authority' after 'Pocahontas' remark BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 11/27/17 06:13 PM EST The top Democrat on the Senate Indian Affairs Committee slammed President Trump for referring to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) as “Pocahontas” during an event honoring Navajo Code Talkers who served in World War II. "Donald Trump's racist joke during Native American Heritage Month no less demeaned the contributions that the Code Talkers and countless other Native American patriots and citizens have made to our great country," Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.) said in a statement on Monday. "The days when the President of the United States was held as a moral authority around the world were over 11 months ago, but at what should have been a solemn ceremony to honor Native veterans, Donald Trump took low even lower," he added thehill.com/homenews/senate/362039-dem-senator-slams-trumps-moral-authority-after-pocohontas-remark |
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Post by jamieson on Nov 28, 2017 2:22:17 GMT
My son tells me she is 12% Native American. I can't vouch for the accuracy of this.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Nov 28, 2017 3:09:37 GMT
Frankly, I think Warren was in the wrong to try to get ahead by claiming she had Indian blood. (and I really DO have Indian blood-provable!) My grandchildren had to PROVE affiliation with a tribe before they were granted any federal scholarship money. Why didn't SHE have to prove hers?? THAT is where the fault lies! She is a liar!! My husband's family has been passing down the story that they've got Indian blood for generations. No one I've ever spoken to can prove a thing. AFAIK, no one has tried to prove anything, but it is absolutely part of his family's lore. I certainly wouldn't call any in this generation a liar simply because they haven't proven information that's been passed down for well over a century. IMO, if no one insisted Warren prove that generations of her family lied to her (and her siblings), that is on them, not her. |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Nov 28, 2017 3:15:36 GMT
TheOtherMeg please see lucyg post above. I think we have another one, or possibly the same poster, trying to derail the thread. Peace to you!
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Nov 28, 2017 3:23:08 GMT
TheOtherMeg please see lucyg post above. I think we have another one, or possibly the same poster, trying to derail the thread. Peace to you!  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 28, 2017 4:16:31 GMT
Transgender people can enlist in military on January 1, judge saysby Tim Stelloh / Nov.27.2017 / 9:32 PM ET A federal judge on Monday ruled that the government must allow transgender people to enlist in the military beginning on January 1, 2018. The order came after the government asked Washington D.C. District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly if it could push back the January 1 enlistment date, which was established under President Obama. Last month, Kotar-Kelly issued a preliminary injunction that blocked the Trump Administration's plans to exclude transgender people from the military. She said the government had offered no solid evidence that showed why the ban was necessary. “This is an important clarification because it means the military can’t do an end run around the judge’s decision,” d Jennifer Levi, of the GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, or GLAD, said about Monday's order. www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-people-can-enlist-military-january-1-judge-says-n824381He will probably try to appeal. But his losses are good!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 28, 2017 4:49:42 GMT
White House might ban staff from using personal mobile phones: reportBY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 11/27/17 02:10 PM ESTThe White House is considering banning staffers from using personal mobile phones while at work, five Trump administration officials told Bloomberg News.One official told Bloomberg the ban wasn’t related to leaks to the media, but instead stems from concerns about cybersecurity. The proposed ban would apply to everyone working in the Executive Office of the President. Staffers worry that a ban would mean they couldn't reach their friends and family while on the job, according to Bloomberg. White House-issued phones aren't able to send text messages, and staffers are already blocked from sites like Google Hangouts and Gmail, meaning many alternate forms of communication aren't available. Employees are already required to leave their phones in cubbies while attending meetings that involve sensitive or classified information. Politico reported in August that chief of staff John Kelly's phone had been breached as far back as December, but the White House said that Kelly hasn't used the phone since January and uses a government phone while at the White House. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/administration/361986-white-house-might-ban-staff-from-using-personal-mobile-phones-report White House-issued phones aren't able to send text messages
What will the Twitter-in-Chief do!??!!? NO TEXTS!!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 28, 2017 5:19:31 GMT
A couple things thait jumped out to me about the president's tacky Pocahontas jab today:
1. He said, "THEY call her 'Pocahantas'." THEY? No, Himself calls her that. He coined it and still tweets it. Could it be he knew he was stepping – no, leaping – over a line and, in that split second, decided to (uncharacteristcally) credit others for his oh-so-clever nickname?
2. Isn't Mr. Trump the man who for many years claimed he had Swedish heritage instead of German heritage? Whether he intentionally or inadvertently misled people, he misrepresented his heritage.
Should "they" start calling him "Abba"?
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 28, 2017 5:20:11 GMT
No matter what, if Obama is invited, it will get under Trump’s skin. If Obama is invited and he is not, there will be an epic Twitter tantrum. If they are both invited, he will be thoroughly ticked at the rapport Obama will have with other leaders while he gets (at best) begrudging recognition of his presence or (at worst) left to sulk in a corner by himself because no one wants to talk to him. There is no way they would want Trump there, they are humanitarians. Who gives a crap what his reaction will be. He will probably claim he turned them down. I hope Obama goes! What a strong message that will send. Maybe he won’t be able to attend because it conflicts with his indictment... or is at the same time he has to be in court...or he can’t go because he’s deemed a flight risk and no bail is set...or... |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 28, 2017 5:46:37 GMT
Also, just cause I can't restist tangents, I posted here once that I read that one of the DNA ancestry businesses reported that the most common surprise is when people learn they are no-part American Indian. Apparently, this is common lore in lots of families. Anecdotally, we've even had people post here about how surprised they were by their non-native results.
Sociologically, it's kind of fascinating that we (Americans, collectively) seem to have such a romantic view of native heritage - but our past and current history of treatment of the native population doesn't exactly reflect that romanticism...
Okay, I'll stop. Back to Himself! <insert off-key fanfare>
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Post by Clair on Nov 28, 2017 8:37:40 GMT
White House might ban staff from using personal mobile phones: reportBY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 11/27/17 02:10 PM ESTThe White House is considering banning staffers from using personal mobile phones while at work, five Trump administration officials told Bloomberg News.One official told Bloomberg the ban wasn’t related to leaks to the media, but instead stems from concerns about cybersecurity. The proposed ban would apply to everyone working in the Executive Office of the President. Staffers worry that a ban would mean they couldn't reach their friends and family while on the job, according to Bloomberg. White House-issued phones aren't able to send text messages, and staffers are already blocked from sites like Google Hangouts and Gmail, meaning many alternate forms of communication aren't available. Employees are already required to leave their phones in cubbies while attending meetings that involve sensitive or classified information. Politico reported in August that chief of staff John Kelly's phone had been breached as far back as December, but the White House said that Kelly hasn't used the phone since January and uses a government phone while at the White House. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/administration/361986-white-house-might-ban-staff-from-using-personal-mobile-phones-report White House-issued phones aren't able to send text messages
What will the Twitter-in-Chief do!??!!? NO TEXTS!! No Trump texts - I think not. I’d miss the crazy. As to the rest of this - this in not an uncommon practice at defense contractors on certain programs. Old fashion pagers are used to contact people. Pagers cannot transmit information and data out so they are usually allowed where phones are not. Phones can can create a huge security risk. |
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Post by anonrefugee on Nov 28, 2017 10:27:56 GMT
It's appalling to me he can't seem to honor anyone without diverting the moment with a slam at another. Heck, it seems he can't participate in any ceremony without tossing out a petty one-liner.
It's easy to be diverted by the content of the slam but it's also a big issue that he lacks the self control to perform what might be seen as his more light-hearted formal duties.
Even if he was 10 year old president of an elementary school student council he'd receive a big lecture about staying focused and being graceful to allow others their moment.
Something is wrong with him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 12:42:38 GMT
There is no way they would want Trump there, they are humanitarians. Who gives a crap what his reaction will be. He will probably claim he turned them down. I hope Obama goes! What a strong message that will send. Maybe he won’t be able to attend because it conflicts with his indictment... or is at the same time he has to be in court...or he can’t go because he’s deemed a flight risk and no bail is set...or... It would be wonderful if they revoked his visa waiver status  He would certainly come under some of the criteria, some of them would be : adverse behaviour (using deception, false representation, fraud, forgery, nondisclosure
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non conduciveness, adverse character, conduct or associations non-conducive to public good,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 14:29:59 GMT
From a very insecure little man...
“Melania, our great and very hard working First Lady, who truly loves what she is doing, always thought that “if you run, you will win.” She would tell everyone that, “no doubt, he will win.” I also felt I would win (or I would not have run) - and Country is doing great!””
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Post by thundergal on Nov 28, 2017 14:30:00 GMT
Sociologically, it's kind of fascinating that we (Americans, collectively) seem to have such a romantic view of native heritage - but our past and current history of treatment of the native population doesn't exactly reflect that romanticism... Such good insight...that's so true. |
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Post by thundergal on Nov 28, 2017 14:32:43 GMT
“Melania, our great and very hard working First Lady, who truly loves what she is doing, always thought that “if you run, you will win.” She would tell everyone that, “no doubt, he will win.” I also felt I would win (or I would not have run) - and Country is doing great!”” Oh good GOD. When I first saw her name I thought he was going to be talking about her Christmas décor at the White House, perhaps defending it. It's the most creepy holiday decorating I've ever seen. |
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Post by PLurker on Nov 28, 2017 15:16:42 GMT
From a very insecure little man... “Melania, our great and very hard working First Lady, who truly loves what she is doing, always thought that “if you run, you will win.” She would tell everyone that, “no doubt, he will win.” I also felt I would win (or I would not have run) - and Country is doing great!”” Is that supposed to complimenting his wife? Of course not, just backhand complimenting himself. As always. |
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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 28, 2017 16:16:31 GMT
President Trump's top spokeswoman on Monday defended his decision to call Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) "Pocahontas" during an event honoring Native American veterans. “I think what most people find offensive is Sen. Warren lying about her heritage to advance her career," White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters. Divert, Deny, but he/she/they did it. Always excusable. Whether Warren lied about her Indian Heritage, or she represented what she had been told by her family is irrelevant here. What is relevant is trumps continual stupid behavior. So much for "I have the best words". |
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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 28, 2017 16:25:46 GMT
Post by fred on [abbr data-timestamp="1511879399000" title="Tue Nov 28 2017 09:29:59 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)" class="o-timestamp time recent_time"]about an hour ago[/abbr] From a very insecure little man...
“Melania, our great and very hard working First Lady, who truly loves what she is doing, always thought that “if you run, you will win.” She would tell everyone that, “no doubt, he will win.” I also felt I would win (or I would not have run) - and Country is doing great!”” [/quote And speaking of the useless flotus, will someone please show her how to put her arms in her coat sleeves? |
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Post by imsirius on Nov 28, 2017 16:45:04 GMT
Yes! I watched the video and wondered why she does that with her coats? Why wear it if it’s just an accessory?
And, WHAT is she working hard at? Decorating? Fashion? Arm candy? Because it certainlyisn't cyber bullying or any other platform.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 16:55:58 GMT
A “Letter to the Editor” on Moyer’s & Company site....
“As a citizen of the state of Oklahoma, I can offer very little hope in the promises of the national GOP tax plan based on the current results of the statewide tax cuts in Oklahoma four years ago.
We were offered many of the same promises of job growth, wage growth and better opportunities. The results have been quite depressing.
We have near the lowest teacher pay and educational success grades and the current legislature is faced with cutting nearly all services for regular Oklahomans. In spite of this there is no talk of correcting the budget problems with thoughtful and practical revenue solutions.
I fear the long game nationally will follow the template set by states like mine. That is, cut revenue to benefit top earners, which is then compensated by cutting vital services to health care, environmental safety, education and social safety nets.
What is so perplexing to me is that people facing such hardship elected the current national and state representatives as well as Donald Trump. They are all actively planning and implementing legislation and policy that will only further their hardship.
I seem to differ from the current GOP political movement in that I believe government serves as a responsible partner and mediator in many aspects of public life — such as education, health care, worker protections, environmental protection and public safety — in order to ensure freedom, justice and equal opportunity for the most vulnerable in society.
The GOP seems to operate on the belief that if more freedom is given to the entities with power, corporations and those with wealth, justice and opportunity will result. I’m certainly not convinced.
— Travis Rakes, Bartlesville, OK“
Something to ponder.
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Post by grammadee on Nov 28, 2017 16:56:00 GMT
Responding to the post about his tweet regarding how Melania encouraged him to run and thought he would win:
Can he PLEASE. GIVE. THE. 2016. ELECTION. A. REST.
Yes, I know he is responding to an article which claimed Melania did not want to be First Lady, but he could just ignore it. He talks about Hilary being a sore loser. He has got to be the sorest winner ever!
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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 28, 2017 17:23:23 GMT
Yes! I watched the video and wondered why she does that with her coats? Why wear it if it’s just an accessory She does that all the time, even when walking through the White House, or to the helicopter. Don't they pay the Heating Bill? |
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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 28, 2017 17:29:28 GMT
Oh it wouldn't surprise me that Pres Obama gets an invite as both him and Michelle are friends of Prince Harry. Trump won't though, not as Head of State and most definitely not a private personal invite. trump will Not get an invite as it is not a State Wedding. The Obama's and Trudeau's will be invited. Besides I am sure it would interfere with Trump's golf. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 17:55:01 GMT
Evan Rosenfeld....
“BREAKING: Newly revealed incident reported by a USAID officer based at the American embassy in Uzbekistan is raising suspicions Russia may have been involved & could have had a hand in bizarre attacks targeting U.S. diplomats in Cuba, per American sources”
If true this makes sense. Except I would think Russia would do it without Cuba. It’s a big plus for Cuba to have relations with the US so why would they seek to destroy them by doing something like what
happened to the folks at the US Embassy in Cuba.
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He would certainly come under some of the criteria, some of them would be :
