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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 18, 2017 4:49:22 GMT
Nope. Not unless you’re about to do something fatal.
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Post by ntsf on Dec 18, 2017 4:53:37 GMT
I recommend “the no asshole. Rule”. Book by Robert Sutton of Stanford University.
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Post by jemali on Dec 18, 2017 5:00:20 GMT
The owner of the company I work for yells all the time. Mostly st managers over the phone. My office is kitty-corner across the hall. He keeps his door closed and I can hear him yelling and swearing. He says f$&@ like you say the word “the”. He could be telling you what he had for breakfast and use the f word. He also pounds his fist on his desk. It is *so* unprofessional. It certainly doesn’t make him sound smart or impress me. I don’t know why he does it. He can also be the most charming gentleman you’ve ever met. He has never yelled at me.
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Post by cmpeter on Dec 18, 2017 5:36:17 GMT
No and I cant say I’ve ever worked at a place where people are yelled at.
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Dec 18, 2017 5:42:03 GMT
Just wondering... Is it normal to be yelled at by your bosses at work? TIA! Absolutely not. Keep a record. Ask any witnesses to back you up. Report them if they are also employees. If they are the owners, find a new job and then tell them to eff off.
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Post by malibou on Dec 18, 2017 5:46:35 GMT
One time I had a boss yell at me. When he was done, I calmly said to him that he does not and never will have permission to yell at me. He then said that since I had been in the military I should be used to it. I again calmly explained that there would be no permission given to yell at me unless he intended to start training me to kill people. He was shocked, but never yelled at me again. He did however make the mistake with a coworker who then got him fired.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 8:39:48 GMT
Did employee go home to take a nap, instead of going to a client meeting? Putting your boss at risk to be personally sued by the client? And your company?
Then the answer is yes ( actually the employee never got yelled, well because employee was home napping).
My husband settled with the client, by finishing project free of any charges, costing the company a couple million. This was the last straw for the employee, who was fired.
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Dec 18, 2017 8:58:03 GMT
I tolerated it once, then left.
What's your story?
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michellegb
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Post by michellegb on Dec 18, 2017 10:10:32 GMT
No. Just no.
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Post by swtpeasmom on Dec 19, 2017 0:15:29 GMT
Thanks for all of your responses. Makes me feel better.
I worked for a small company (2 owners were my bosses) and they regularly yell at employees, including me. This had become a common occurrence. And they would have to be together - if one wasn't around, they would wait to yell at me (or others) when they were both together so they could really make you feel like $hit.
The best part was, if they thought I messed up (I was one of 3 managers in the company), they would demand I apologize - which they NEVER did with any of the men. They would get pissed when I wouldn't - and I think they decided to hold a grudge forever, since the past year had become awful and it was always me.
There was no HR department, unless you counted me.
I quit about 6 weeks ago. They are still slandering my name to the other people in the company and I'm guessing to customers. They were mad when I insisted they mail my final check and held it for almost a week late because they wanted me to come in so they could both yell at me (like I've watched them do to others in the past 3 years - one guy actually had the police come when he picked up his check). I had called the labor board and had emailed them such.
For those thinking I just sucked at my job, I got a 5% raise about 2 weeks before I walked out (after being yelled at the day before again) and they recently told the remaining employees that I had one of the larger bonuses and since I left, they would be distributing it to everyone.
It's nice to hear others agree that the way they treated me (and others that quit before me) was not okay.
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Dec 19, 2017 2:03:54 GMT
The only boss I've ever had yell at me was my husband. That's ok, I've yelled back, and everyone knows that I'm really the boss.
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rickmer
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Post by rickmer on Dec 19, 2017 3:27:25 GMT
unless you work for gordon ramsey... no.
and not only that, it's totally unprofessional AND unacceptable.
(i read no responses)
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Dec 19, 2017 4:57:40 GMT
I wonder how many people would never tolerate being yelled at by a boss at work, but think nothing of yelling at employees of a business.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 19, 2017 15:00:37 GMT
The former owners at my job were a husband and wife couple who yelled all the time, at us and at each other. The new owner doesn't yell, instead he made a bunch of changes to squeeze more work out of fewer people and changed my schedule that I'd worked for 14 years. I'd take the yelling over that. They actually yelled at each other much more than they yelled at us. I would think this happens much more frequently in a small mom-and-pop type owner structure than a corporate environment with an HR department. I worked very part-time for a few years at a local mom & pop jewelry store. They frequently sniped and yelled at one another even in front of customers. They went through a lot of employees due to their yelling at each other as well as at the employees from time to time. I spoke up the first time or two they yelled in front of me or directed toward me and called them on it. Thereafter, I simply walked off when it happened. I refuse to engage with people behaving so poorly. Although I loved the work I did there researching and establishing provenances on estate jewelry, art work, and antiques, the environment eventually wore on me to the point where I just had no interest in remaining.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 16:30:47 GMT
unless you work for gordon ramsey... no. and not only that, it's totally unprofessional AND unacceptable. (i read no responses) I want to go on one of his shows , just so I could walk off the first he yelled at me. I don't know of very many kitchens where that type of yelling would be tolerated.
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Post by mrssmith on Dec 19, 2017 19:09:01 GMT
People don't yell at each other in my office now, but I know that there are other yellers in the organization. I think tolerance is low unless you are one of the top MDs, in which case you are often untouchable. Back when I was first working at a university as an admin assistant, a professor came into the office yelling and pounding his fist on my desk because I double booked a room. I was too young, naive, or not confident enough to report and the older woman in my office had a "boys will be boys/they're actually nice people" mentality that made me question myself and not want to stir the pot.... I was there for about 18 months, but looking back, I should have reported the environment to HR. (However, a friend in another department reported sexual harassment and the prof stayed. Friend was moved to another department.)
Anyway, glad you are out of that situation and are able to enjoy the holidays!
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Post by ladytrisha on Dec 19, 2017 19:55:22 GMT
Lived with it for years ... watched the temper tantrums, the files flying across the room, the insane yelling at me, his partner, kids, clients, everyone. Later on, when the partner was going senile, he started up yelling.
While everyone says "not acceptable" and report to HR, if you're in a small company, you're stuck or look for a new job because there is no safe level to go to except out.
I wish I had walked out sooner - I got thrown out eventually and it's been the best thing because I learned that HR will protect you.
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