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Post by bc2ca on Dec 30, 2017 19:22:53 GMT
One of the schools that has hit this area (PNW)hard is Grand Canyon University. I had never heard of it until a few years ago, now there are tons of kids heading there. Seems their marketing has worked. Interesting. GCU is a private Christian college in Phoenix that has a heavy TV ad presence in San Diego. DD went to a small charter HS and I swear they had recruiters there every week. It paid off for them as a number of her former classmates are attending GCU. As with most Christian schools around here, the student body is about 70% female.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 30, 2017 19:35:23 GMT
Totally off-topic for this thread, but this is a scrapbook website, sooooo.......... Don’t throw these mailings away. I saw the greatest photo of my daughter’s friend. She was surrounded by a huge pile of college marketing materials and proudly holding her acceptance letter from the one she had chosen. I have my DDs saving their mailings now.😀 I did the same thing. We had a HUGE moving box of stuff colleges sent.
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Post by craftedbys on Dec 30, 2017 20:03:12 GMT
Colleges and universities also use test scores to decide who to market to. DS took the ACT as a sophomore and did very, very well both overall and in science and math. The week the scores were made available to schools he started getting mail from tons of schools with great science and math programs: 'Hey ***, how would you like to study STEM at the Naval Academy?'
Thanks, but no thanks, he is planning on studying Film/Media Arts. We are just now starting to get those schools' mailings and emails.
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Post by maryland on Dec 30, 2017 22:14:32 GMT
My daughter got a great scholarship to University of SC. (we are out of state) The school is beautiful and the weather is great (compared to Pittsburgh where we live and it is freezing!). She ended up going to our local university at the last minute because it has a top 5 nursing program that you are automatically admitted to for 4 yrs. Otherwise she would be a Gamecock!
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Post by hop2 on Dec 30, 2017 22:34:37 GMT
Yeah, my atheist big-city kid from a fine arts high school keeps getting mailers from podunk state universities (from other states) and tiny private Christian schools. No idea why. She knows where she wants to go and even has a viable alternative route if she can't get in as a freshman, and a backup plan if that fails. The mailers all go in the recycling bin. I wish they wouldn't waste their money! A friend's daughter is a multi-talented high school sophomore & exploring career options. If your daughter is planning to major in fine arts, do you mind sharing her top college choices? My DD’s supposed top schools were MICA and the art institute of Chicago both excellent schools but very expensive and neither gives full scholarships. She also applied to Mass art in Boston, Boston University and we looked at Monserrat which is a very lovely, yet small school outside of Boston. DD felt it was too small for her but I loved it. She ruled out RISD because she didn’t think thier overall approach to design matched hers but it’s a good school Had your friends DD go to a national portfolio day near you and get valuable feedback for each school. Also poke around online YouTube etc for portfolio pointers www.portfolioday.net/2017-18-schedule
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 30, 2017 23:31:31 GMT
I think it would depend a lot on what the area of focus is. My son hopes to get into a BFA program and his top choices in no order are NYU, CMU, Ithaca, the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor and the conservatory at a small school in Virginia, Shenandoah. But there are a number of small conservatories which have good programs in his chosen major so those are all on the table as well. I think with any audition or portfolio review program as most BFAs are, it's a good idea not to get your heart set on a specific school.
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Post by Merge on Dec 30, 2017 23:36:51 GMT
Yeah, my atheist big-city kid from a fine arts high school keeps getting mailers from podunk state universities (from other states) and tiny private Christian schools. No idea why. She knows where she wants to go and even has a viable alternative route if she can't get in as a freshman, and a backup plan if that fails. The mailers all go in the recycling bin. I wish they wouldn't waste their money! A friend's daughter is a multi-talented high school sophomore & exploring career options. If your daughter is planning to major in fine arts, do you mind sharing her top college choices? We live in Texas. She is planning to major in film production, and hopes to go to UT Austin, which has one of the best programs in the country. It’s not easy to get in to UT as a freshman because the school is required to admit the top 7% of every graduating class across the state, and those take up most of the freshman spots. She attends a very competitive high school and, though her grades are decent, top 7% is not realistic. It’s possible she could still be admitted on the strength of her application, but she’s not banking on that. But a lot of the automatic admits from less competitive high schools wash out after their first year, so it’s very possible to transfer in as a sophomore. She plans to attend UTSA her first year and take a lot of her core courses, COMM 101, etc., and apply for the main campus as a sophomore and again as a junior if necessary. She also plans a master’s degree and internships on one of the coasts, closer to the action, so to speak. It’s a very sensible plan and I’m proud of her.
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Post by craftedbys on Dec 31, 2017 0:02:28 GMT
A friend's daughter is a multi-talented high school sophomore & exploring career options. If your daughter is planning to major in fine arts, do you mind sharing her top college choices? We live in Texas. She is planning to major in film production, and hopes to go to UT Austin, which has one of the best programs in the country. It’s not easy to get in to UT as a freshman because the school is required to admit the top 7% of every graduating class across the state, and those take up most of the freshman spots. She attends a very competitive high school and, though her grades are decent, top 7% is not realistic. It’s possible she could still be admitted on the strength of her application, but she’s not banking on that. But a lot of the automatic admits from less competitive high schools wash out after their first year, so it’s very possible to transfer in as a sophomore. She plans to attend UTSA her first year and take a lot of her core courses, COMM 101, etc., and apply for the main campus as a sophomore and again as a junior if necessary. She also plans a master’s degree and internships on one of the coasts, closer to the action, so to speak. It’s a very sensible plan and I’m proud of her. My son is studying Media at our State's high school for the Arts. UT Austin has been one of his top choices for college for several years, but knows how competitive (and pricy for out of state students!). Cal Arts is his dream school. His media teacher is an alum from SCAD, and he's looking at it, but what is disappointing is their film program is at one campus, and their tv production program is in Atlanta.
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Post by PaperAngel on Dec 31, 2017 1:09:22 GMT
Sarah*H & Merge - Thanks for your responses. My friend & her husband are both attorneys (& from generations of attorneys) & still wondering from whom their daughter gets her creativity.  They are unfamiliar with & striving to get versed in the various fine arts programs/career opportunities, universities/colleges offering said programs, & the unique requirements & application processes. I will pass along your thoughts & recommendations. Best wishes to your children on their future endeavors...
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Post by Legacy Girl on Dec 31, 2017 1:22:43 GMT
The University of Miami is in Florida. They are known as the Hurricanes. Miami University is in Oxford, Ohio. They are known as the RedHawks. It's easier to keep them straight when calling them by their proper names. Signed, the DD of a proud RedHawk alum, Class of 1962, and the mom of prospective RedHawk, Class of 2025 
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 31, 2017 2:03:24 GMT
Sarah*H & Merge - Thanks for your responses. My friend & her husband are both attorneys (& from generations of attorneys) & still wondering from whom their daughter gets her creativity.  They are unfamiliar with & striving to get versed in the various fine arts programs/career opportunities, universities/colleges offering said programs, & the unique requirements & application processes. I will pass along your thoughts & recommendations. Best wishes to your children on their future endeavors... I’m an attorney and my husband is in a STEM management position; we were positive ds was on the path to being an engineer. And then he threw us a curveball and said he wanted to at least try to pursue his passion. So, we’re figuring it out. He’s also got a solid back up plan and another year to get everything into place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 6:02:24 GMT
My friend is 50 and has BFA from Ithaca. He worked on cats for 2 years and then did some Podunk stuff. If you were to ask him if you should get a bfa in drama/acting/ performing, he will tell you a big fat NO. He even had a BA in stage management.
You will soon find out that there are 200 others who agents said they were perfect for a role. And as soon as you get the roll you are off to more auditions because the role will only last 3-4 months.
He also said he would have gotten more parts if he slept around. He knew several straight guys who would have sex just to cast into lead roles.
Our daughter will be getting a BFA in dance, we keep telling her to take all the math and science classes she can so it will be easy for her to get a fall back degree.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Dec 31, 2017 12:46:10 GMT
My son kept getting pamphlets from all the schools with the ‘wrong’ names. Examples he frequently got pamphlets or even packages from places like Miami University in Ohio ( not Florida ) the CIA or Cleveland institute of art ( you had to open it up to even find a reference to Cleveland or art lol ) there were a few others all with a quirk to the name but I can’t remember them now We used to joke about it every time that the only universities interested in him had real names but don’t sound like it. Not sure what marketing spurred that off Before you turn up your nose at schools with “wrong names”, Miami University is a nationally recognized university with high academic standards and programs. I’m NOT a MU alumni. I’m an OSU grad. Ohio is known for their great small liberal arts colleges.It certainly is. Home to most of the mini-ivy league schools. SaveSave
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Post by peabay on Dec 31, 2017 13:20:55 GMT
I think it would depend a lot on what the area of focus is. My son hopes to get into a BFA program and his top choices in no order are NYU, CMU, Ithaca, the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor and the conservatory at a small school in Virginia, Shenandoah. But there are a number of small conservatories which have good programs in his chosen major so those are all on the table as well. I think with any audition or portfolio review program as most BFAs are, it's a good idea not to get your heart set on a specific school. LOL - I read your post before I looked at your name and was about to type: "NYU? My daughter is there studying drama. I'll pm you!" And I will reiterate Sarah's advice: do NOT have a favorite school. And spread the applications out far and wide. My daughter applied to 17 schools and she had fewer than most. And if it's for acting or musical theater at one of the more competitive schools, hire a coaching agency. I would never, ever do it without.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 31, 2017 13:46:16 GMT
I think it would depend a lot on what the area of focus is. My son hopes to get into a BFA program and his top choices in no order are NYU, CMU, Ithaca, the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor and the conservatory at a small school in Virginia, Shenandoah. But there are a number of small conservatories which have good programs in his chosen major so those are all on the table as well. I think with any audition or portfolio review program as most BFAs are, it's a good idea not to get your heart set on a specific school. LOL - I read your post before I looked at your name and was about to type: "NYU? My daughter is there studying drama. I'll pm you!" And I will reiterate Sarah's advice: do NOT have a favorite school. And spread the applications out far and wide. My daughter applied to 17 schools and she had fewer than most. And if it's for acting or musical theater at one of the more competitive schools, hire a coaching agency. I would never, ever do it without. That’s just it a BFA can be performing arts or fine arts and the process to apply ( and advice ) is going to be completely different. So will the career choices. So the multitalented will have to narrow it down slightly. The audition process seems even more killer than the portfolio process.
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 31, 2017 14:00:13 GMT
Yes, my husband would argue that this whole thing is because you and I pm TOO MUCH, lol! 
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Post by Merge on Dec 31, 2017 14:17:20 GMT
Sarah*H & Merge - Thanks for your responses. My friend & her husband are both attorneys (& from generations of attorneys) & still wondering from whom their daughter gets her creativity.  They are unfamiliar with & striving to get versed in the various fine arts programs/career opportunities, universities/colleges offering said programs, & the unique requirements & application processes. I will pass along your thoughts & recommendations. Best wishes to your children on their future endeavors... It's a process for sure. I'm a musician, but pursued a music education degree, so didn't have to go through quite the hoopla that a performance major does. The thing to remember - and I say this as someone who worked as a college advisor for music undergrads at a major music school - is that a degree in your chosen area is not necessarily the only path to a career in that area. Performing arts care only about talent and ability. For the most part, no one in an audition situation cares where you went to school or what you studied. There's actually significant research to show that traditional undergraduate programs can be somewhat limiting to artists. Meeting the requirements of the major, such as history and theory classes that may or may not be relevant to your area of interest, may take precious time from you growing your unique skills and talents. There are many teachers and opportunities to learn outside of the college environment, and many paths to success as well. A college BFA program is not the only way and, for some, not even the best way. For our purposes, money is a factor. We can't afford to send our kid to a $50K/year school. So we do have to have a "favorite" school - in state, less expensive - and a (hopefully) realistic way for her to get there. If that doesn't work, the plan is for her to go to a good but not "top 25" school in our city, which has a similar program. The money we'd save could be used for internships and summer programs that might help her make the connections she'd miss out on at this school. The benefit of film production as well is that, no matter which school she attends, she'll be learning technical skills that can get her a foothold in the industry. She knows that she'll have to hustle to get where she wants to go. No school is an automatic easy path. Second child is a musician like mom, but plays a stringed instrument. Will likely major in music and prefers a performance track. So that will be a whole new ballgame for us. 
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Post by peabay on Dec 31, 2017 14:44:18 GMT
My daughter had a lot of reasons for choosing her BFA path. 1. She got into a top school in the country, both for her major and just in general. She’s double majoring in drama and political science. If her chosen path doesn’t work, at least she has a degree from NYU. 2. The contacts and networking she would get at NYU will likely serve her well, in either major. 3. We didn’t want her to turn to us when she’s 40 and say “I could’ve gone to NYU - where would I have been if I’d gone there?”
And, halfway through her sophomore year, it was the right choice. She’s thriving.
But I don’t disagree with Merge at all - there’s different paths for everyone to their chosen profession. And different measures of success.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 31, 2017 15:46:02 GMT
My daughter had a lot of reasons for choosing her BFA path. 1. She got into a top school in the country, both for her major and just in general. She’s double majoring in drama and political science. If her chosen path doesn’t work, at least she has a degree from NYU. 2. The contacts and networking she would get at NYU will likely serve her well, in either major. 3. We didn’t want her to turn to us when she’s 40 and say “I could’ve gone to NYU - where would I have been if I’d gone there?” And, halfway through her sophomore year, it was the right choice. She’s thriving. But I don’t disagree with Merge at all - there’s different paths for everyone to their chosen profession. And different measures of success. lol talk about related majors. That made me smile. She’s got it covered
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