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Post by myboysnme on Jan 8, 2018 0:42:07 GMT
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 8, 2018 12:20:08 GMT
It looks like the video has been removed by the user.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 8, 2018 13:26:17 GMT
It looks like the video has been removed by the user. Honestly, the video wasn't that interesting. It was just a clip and it didn't show her home. If you want to see what hoarding looks like, just go to youtube and search for scrapbook rooms. I did it yesterday after reading this post and honestly, the videos that come up of scrapbook rooms all look like hoarding to me.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 8, 2018 15:05:18 GMT
It looks like the video has been removed by the user. Honestly, the video wasn't that interesting. It was just a clip and it didn't show her home. If you want to see what hoarding looks like, just go to youtube and search for scrapbook rooms. I did it yesterday after reading this post and honestly, the videos that come up of scrapbook rooms all look like hoarding to me. I think some people were wanting to see it because they wanted to see the video of her shopping a fully stocked LSS and all the products from companies that closed down long ago. Once all the stores in a given area close down, you wax nostalgic seeing stuff like that of the good old days!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 8, 2018 15:17:27 GMT
If you have A&E in your cable or Dish subscription, they have most if not all of the previous episodes available On Demand. You just need to know which season and episode number it is and you can go right to it.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 8, 2018 15:24:15 GMT
Honestly, the video wasn't that interesting. It was just a clip and it didn't show her home. If you want to see what hoarding looks like, just go to youtube and search for scrapbook rooms. I did it yesterday after reading this post and honestly, the videos that come up of scrapbook rooms all look like hoarding to me. I think some people were wanting to see it because they wanted to see the video of her shopping a fully stocked LSS and all the products from companies that closed down long ago. Once all the stores in a given area close down, you wax nostalgic seeing stuff like that of the good old days! Oh, I see. I went back and read this thread again to see if I could see it. I did see a couple of comments about that, but I thought the thread was intended to discuss hoarding scrapbook supplies. It is quite a light discussion. When I first read it, I thought it might be a meaty discussion, but I was disappointed in that no one seems to really want to discuss where it crosses the line into hoarding. I think it might have been a more productive discussion on the NSBR board. Truthfully, I just should have avoided it altogether, just like I do the refrigerated/frozen thread. I guess I cannot wrap my brain around it and it seems like I may be the odd one.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 8, 2018 17:43:44 GMT
I see a difference in hoarding and what most scrapbookers joke as their hoard. I take care of my scrapbook stuff. Hoarders hold onto trash. My grandparents were hoarders. My sister stayed with my grandpa (and still resides in his home) and he had a fit when she threw out a bag of sugar and flour because it had mouse poop in it. Add into that the fact that their house was/is filthy enough to be infested with rats and well, yeah...there is a big difference between owning a lot of stuff and being a hoarder. Hoarding is a mental issue and while people who like to shop CAN become compulsive and turn into hoarders, not all people who like to shop ARE in fact, hoarders.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 8, 2018 17:47:35 GMT
It looks like the video has been removed by the user. Honestly, the video wasn't that interesting. It was just a clip and it didn't show her home. If you want to see what hoarding looks like, just go to youtube and search for scrapbook rooms. I did it yesterday after reading this post and honestly, the videos that come up of scrapbook rooms all look like hoarding to me. Then you don't know what hoarding is. Owning a lot of things does not equate hoarding. I'm sure that a large stash to someone who is a minimalist owning a lot of stuff could be unfathomable, but to say that they look like hoarders because you can't relate is rude.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 8, 2018 18:04:57 GMT
Honestly, the video wasn't that interesting. It was just a clip and it didn't show her home. If you want to see what hoarding looks like, just go to youtube and search for scrapbook rooms. I did it yesterday after reading this post and honestly, the videos that come up of scrapbook rooms all look like hoarding to me. Then you don't know what hoarding is. Owning a lot of things does not equate hoarding. I'm sure that a large stash to someone who is a minimalist owning a lot of stuff could be unfathomable, but to say that they look like hoarders because you can't relate is rude. It's not my intention to be rude. And I even said, I can't relate. Owning so much stuff that you don't know what you have, can't use it all in your lifetime, and still continuing to acquire surely seems like hoarding to me. When you get more of a thrill out of shopping for things than actually using them, that seems excessive. Your (general, not you specifically) stash may not have mouse poop in it. It may be clean and tidy, but I stand by my thought that this is excessive. And I mistakenly thought we could discuss this issue and have differing opinions. It is no different than discussions about any other material things that one acquires in excess. I cannot sit on thousands of dollars worth of scrapbook products and feel good about myself. I feel the exact same way about a $50,000 car or a $1000 purse. And when we discuss these things on the NSBR board a variety of opinions is given without rudeness. My apologies to anyone who felt I was rude. I am happy to keep my opinion to myself.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 8, 2018 18:28:35 GMT
Then you don't know what hoarding is. Owning a lot of things does not equate hoarding. I'm sure that a large stash to someone who is a minimalist owning a lot of stuff could be unfathomable, but to say that they look like hoarders because you can't relate is rude. It's not my intention to be rude. And I even said, I can't relate. Owning so much stuff that you don't know what you have, can't use it all in your lifetime, and still continuing to acquire surely seems like hoarding to me. When you get more of a thrill out of shopping for things than actually using them, that seems excessive. Your (general, not you specifically) stash may not have mouse poop in it. It may be clean and tidy, but I stand by my thought that this is excessive. And I mistakenly thought we could discuss this issue and have differing opinions. It is no different than discussions about any other material things that one acquires in excess. I cannot sit on thousands of dollars worth of scrapbook products and feel good about myself. I feel the exact same way about a $50,000 car or a $1000 purse. And when we discuss these things on the NSBR board a variety of opinions is given without rudeness. My apologies to anyone who felt I was rude. I am happy to keep my opinion to myself. Right, but judging what is excessive to someone else is no different than me saying that people who don't own a lot of things must be poor...because they can't afford a larger house to fit more things or because they simply cannot afford them. None of it is based on fact, it is presumption and assumption without good intention. There are a variety of reasons why someone would want to keep their possessions to a minimum, just like there are reasons why someone may want an expensive purse or a high end car or to own an abundance of craft supplies. What is fact is the definition of what a hoarder actually is. It is one thing to say 'I can't imagine owning that many things,' but you chose instead to say that 'all scrapbook rooms I see on youtube look like the owner's are hoarders' which is not the case. What works for you may not work for others and vice versa, but there is no reason to insult someone who lives their lives differently than you do, especially when it isn't unhealthy (as in, actual hoarding or buying an expensive car they cannot afford to buy). People can choose to spend their money how they wish. I have no problem with you saying that you can't relate to the need or want to own so much stuff, but even in your apology you continue to toss out insults. I have 3 kids and can't fathom wanting more, let alone as close together as some people in my life seem to be having their kids. Just because the idea of having more kids is beyond comprehension for me doesn't mean I should tell someone else that they shouldn't have 2 kids under 2 years apart because they look like they're breeders or because I think it's too much. How is putting down someone for their purchasing habits any different? I'd rather accept that everyone makes decisions that work for them, even if I can't relate to those choices. ETA: typos because I do my best editing after I post.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 8, 2018 18:43:46 GMT
The whole premise of this thread was to talk about a show where someone hoards scrapbook supplies. It was all about discussing where you think that line is drawn. I assumed it was up for discussion generally and no where did I tell anyone else what to do with themselves or their money. I did not call anyone on this thread a hoarder. I spoke in generalities. I spoke about my thoughts and opinions. And I can totally accept if you feel differently.
There is a whole thread on this boards very first page where people are seeking support not to spend money. I shared my thoughts because I had hoped that I could share someone can enjoy this hobby without the guilt of spending.
It was ok to call the woman in that video a hoarder when we never even viewed her stash. But it is not ok to say that a lot of scraprooms on YouTube look like others have this problem too?
I'm backing out now because I didn't mean to insult anyone. I tried to back out three or four posts ago when I got the message that no one really wanted to discuss this topic at all and clearly I was the one who's behavior is odd.
Again, my apologies.
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 8, 2018 18:44:50 GMT
I think this is an interesting discussion. I jokingly refer to my stash as a "hoard" and that it "isn't hoarding if it is in a cute container", but I don't have a "problem". I have been scrapping for 20 years and still have old eyelets, foam stamps and other tools and supplies that are used occasionally. Over the years, my kids have used stuff in school projects. My DD is in a sorority and recently took "littles" and we spent a very enjoyable couple of days in my craft room decorating crates and letters and making banners and other goodies for them. As previous posters have said, I agree that there is a spectrum. I know a woman who buys things because they are a good deal and on sale, not because she plans on using them; with her, I see a bundle of anxiety. It can be a fine line between collecting and hoarding. For example, if someone posts photos of their salt shaker collection, I get twitchy and see dust collectors, but show me a stack of stamps and I will sit next to you and look through them! jeremysgirl , I for one don't want you to keep your opinions to yourself. I find you to be a thoughtful, insightful poster. I enjoy my stash; I like organizing it, using it, giving it away when I don't "need" it anymore. I would recommend to a new scrapper that they only shop for paper when they have photos to match and tell them that there will always be newer and more fun products coming out. On the other hand, I still enjoy my Making Memories metal tags and am quite happy that I have a healthy stash of those, and will pull out my quilling supplies every now and then!
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 8, 2018 20:03:50 GMT
The whole premise of this thread was to talk about a show where someone hoards scrapbook supplies. It was all about discussing where you think that line is drawn. I assumed it was up for discussion generally and no where did I tell anyone else what to do with themselves or their money. I did not call anyone on this thread a hoarder. I spoke in generalities. I spoke about my thoughts and opinions. And I can totally accept if you feel differently. There is a whole thread on this boards very first page where people are seeking support not to spend money. I shared my thoughts because I had hoped that I could share someone can enjoy this hobby without the guilt of spending. It was ok to call the woman in that video a hoarder when we never even viewed her stash. But it is not ok to say that a lot of scraprooms on YouTube look like others have this problem too? I'm backing out now because I didn't mean to insult anyone. I tried to back out three or four posts ago when I got the message that no one really wanted to discuss this topic at all and clearly I was the one who's behavior is odd. Again, my apologies. Meh, you didn't say or do anything wrong. I don't know how this went off the rails!
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Post by thracian on Jan 8, 2018 20:10:05 GMT
There is not a straightforward line. It's easy to look at a scraproom on YouTube and be aghast at the amount of supplies someone has, but the amount isn't what makes someone a hoarder. That person might craft every day and use supplies often. That person might have been scrapbooking for nearly 20 years and have built up a variety of products and tools.
What tips the balance in my opinion is this: do you use what you have? Can you let go of things you know you won't use? If the answer is yes = not a hoarder.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 9, 2018 0:08:11 GMT
There is not a straightforward line. It's easy to look at a scraproom on YouTube and be aghast at the amount of supplies someone has, but the amount isn't what makes someone a hoarder. That person might craft every day and use supplies often. That person might have been scrapbooking for nearly 20 years and have built up a variety of products and tools. What tips the balance in my opinion is this: do you use what you have? Can you let go of things you know you won't use? If the answer is yes = not a hoarder.This sounds about right to me.
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Post by don on Jan 9, 2018 3:09:20 GMT
I AM NOT A HOARDER!!! I just have some keepsakes. OK?
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Post by FurryP on Jan 9, 2018 4:34:17 GMT
don, the smile in your avatar just brightens the room. Or in this case, the thread.
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Post by don on Jan 9, 2018 6:26:26 GMT
It's because it's a fun place, and there's lots to smile about.
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