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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 8, 2018 11:22:50 GMT
Check this out, today on the Trump News Network: Ridiculous "Article"This is what passes for journalism at Fox. An "article" full of speculation and insinuation, taking text messages out of context. It's no wonder half the country can't tell truth from fiction. This is why we see posts here based on the Fox News et al., where some conservative peas state their opinions as fact, present altered/made up timelines or sequence as factual evidence, insist that crimes were committed where no factual information supports it, then claim they are right and the rest of the nonbelievers are stupid snowflakes. It can be exhausting sorting all that out to get to what really happened or is going on!
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2018 11:58:36 GMT
FBI finds no evidence of attack in death of border agentDo you think the Trump administration will roll back their rhetoric on this? They used this incident to fuel support for a wall, saying (without evidence) that the agent had been killed by an illegal immigrant. Yeah, I don't think they'll do anything except maybe accuse the FBI of not investigating correctly.
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2018 14:01:42 GMT
Why chain migration is a derogatory term as used by Trump: www.snopes.com/2018/02/01/what-is-chain-migration/Upshot: he defines it as immigrants being able to bring in unlimited numbers of relatives. Not true. There are family relationship limitations and income limitations - the sponsoring adult has to show they can support the new immigrant for a period of time. They’re not just handing out visas like candy. Also, it’s highly suspect that he wants to end family migration but had no problem with it for his family or his wife’s. Based on his recent comments, it’s clear what he really wants to end is family migration from Muslim and/or “shithole” countries. And yeah, that’s discriminatory and a big problem. Trump made it a loaded term because of the context in which he uses it and the falsehoods with which he surrounds it. But none of that matters to the conservatives who can’t understand context and just point out that the term has been around for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 14:10:21 GMT
FBI finds no evidence of attack in death of border agent Do you think the Trump administration will roll back their rhetoric on this? They used this incident to fuel support for a wall, saying (without evidence) that the agent had been killed by an illegal immigrant. Yeah, I don't think they'll do anything except maybe accuse the FBI of not investigating correctly. No. Doesn't fit the narrative. They'll just carry on for their Fluff Parade planning.
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Post by giatocj on Feb 8, 2018 14:24:46 GMT
I have to start this by saying that I am 1000%, completely and hopelessly politically inept so forgive my ignorance, please . Now that that is out of the way, can someone please walk me through understanding this recent poll (from CNN/Quinnipiac University) because I am a little stunned by it!! ( link) You guys are way more politically savvy than I am, and I would love some help wrapping my head around the numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 15:53:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 15:59:10 GMT
Tim Mak...
“GOPers on House Intelligence Cmte plan to construct an actual wall – a physical partition – separating GOP and Dem staffers in the committee's secure spaces.
GOP strongly suggests it's Nunes' idea”
Who’s paying for that wall? Nunes, money from a fund raiser, or the tax payer?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2018 16:30:51 GMT
Tim Mak... “GOPers on House Intelligence Cmte plan to construct an actual wall – a physical partition – separating GOP and Dem staffers in the committee's secure spaces. GOP strongly suggests it's Nunes' idea” Who’s paying for that wall? Nunes, money from a fund raiser, or the tax payer? WHAT?!?!?! WHY? Oh, because Nunes only talked to his people on the Intel Committee? They are supposed to do it together! And someone thinks this will help unit the country?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2018 16:33:45 GMT
Dem senator: If Kelly knew about Porter abuse allegations, he should goBy Maegan Vazquez, CNN Updated 9:20 AM ET, Thu February 8, 2018 ** Senior aides to President Donald Trump knew for months about allegations of domestic abuse levied against top White House staffer Rob Porter by his ex-wives. ** "If John Kelly is covering this up, he needs to be held accountable," Sen. Jon Tester, D-Montana, told CNN's "New Day," adding, "He better have a really good reason. Otherwise, he's gone, too." The chief of staff position is appointed, not confirmed by the Senate, so removing him would be up to Trump. By early fall, it was widely known among Trump's top aides -- including Kelly -- both that Porter was facing troubles in obtaining a security clearance and that his ex-wives claimed he had abused them. No action was taken to remove him from the staff. Instead, Kelly and others oversaw an elevation in Porter's standing. ** More at link: www.cnn.com/2018/02/08/politics/jon-tester-rob-porter-cnntv/index.htmlAnd yes he was expecting a 'Kelly approved' promotion!
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2018 16:34:07 GMT
I have to start this by saying that I am 1000%, completely and hopelessly politically inept so forgive my ignorance, please . Now that that is out of the way, can someone please walk me through understanding this recent poll (from CNN/Quinnipiac University) because I am a little stunned by it!! ( link) You guys are way more politically savvy than I am, and I would love some help wrapping my head around the numbers. People are excited in the short term because their paychecks went up a little. The numbers will go down again when they see what has to be cut from the federal budget to pay for the tax cuts.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 8, 2018 16:35:23 GMT
Tim Mak... “GOPers on House Intelligence Cmte plan to construct an actual wall – a physical partition – separating GOP and Dem staffers in the committee's secure spaces. GOP strongly suggests it's Nunes' idea” Who’s paying for that wall? Nunes, money from a fund raiser, or the tax payer? I really hope this is misinformation (not by you, but from the source). Isn't the point of these committees to work together? And especially the House Intelligence Committee, why should that be partisan? What is there to hide? eta: Doesn't exactly scream of parties working together touted by Trump around the SOTU.
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Post by giatocj on Feb 8, 2018 16:37:40 GMT
I have to start this by saying that I am 1000%, completely and hopelessly politically inept so forgive my ignorance, please . Now that that is out of the way, can someone please walk me through understanding this recent poll (from CNN/Quinnipiac University) because I am a little stunned by it!! ( link) You guys are way more politically savvy than I am, and I would love some help wrapping my head around the numbers. People are excited in the short term because their paychecks went up a little. The numbers will go down again when they see what has to be cut from the federal budget to pay for the tax cuts. Thanks, Merge! My mind was blown away looking at some of those favorable numbers but your explanation put it in much better perspective.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 8, 2018 16:40:53 GMT
I have to start this by saying that I am 1000%, completely and hopelessly politically inept so forgive my ignorance, please . Now that that is out of the way, can someone please walk me through understanding this recent poll (from CNN/Quinnipiac University) because I am a little stunned by it!! ( link) You guys are way more politically savvy than I am, and I would love some help wrapping my head around the numbers. People are excited in the short term because their paychecks went up a little. The numbers will go down again when they see what has to be cut from the federal budget to pay for the tax cuts. To add to that, I think they also believe that the one time bonuses, some pay raises and new hires that are being used as advertisements of the tax-plan are signs of the huge trickle down effect that was sold by the GOP.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 16:53:21 GMT
Tim Mak... “GOPers on House Intelligence Cmte plan to construct an actual wall – a physical partition – separating GOP and Dem staffers in the committee's secure spaces. GOP strongly suggests it's Nunes' idea” Who’s paying for that wall? Nunes, money from a fund raiser, or the tax payer? I really hope this is misinformation (not by you, but from the source). Isn't the point of these committees to work together? And especially the House Intelligence Committee, why should that be partisan? What is there to hide? eta: Doesn't exactly scream of parties working together touted by Trump around the SOTU. Here is the rest of the story as they say. CBS News reported it this morning in this article. link
And yes, if true it’s a very bad sign.
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Post by Montannie on Feb 8, 2018 17:47:56 GMT
Dem senator: If Kelly knew about Porter abuse allegations, he should goBy Maegan Vazquez, CNN Updated 9:20 AM ET, Thu February 8, 2018 ** Senior aides to President Donald Trump knew for months about allegations of domestic abuse levied against top White House staffer Rob Porter by his ex-wives. ** "If John Kelly is covering this up, he needs to be held accountable," Sen. Jon Tester, D-Montana, told CNN's "New Day," adding, "He better have a really good reason. Otherwise, he's gone, too." The chief of staff position is appointed, not confirmed by the Senate, so removing him would be up to Trump. By early fall, it was widely known among Trump's top aides -- including Kelly -- both that Porter was facing troubles in obtaining a security clearance and that his ex-wives claimed he had abused them. No action was taken to remove him from the staff. Instead, Kelly and others oversaw an elevation in Porter's standing. ** More at link: www.cnn.com/2018/02/08/politics/jon-tester-rob-porter-cnntv/index.htmlAnd yes he was expecting a 'Kelly approved' promotion! Someone should maybe check on Mrs. Kelly . . .
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Post by lucyg on Feb 8, 2018 18:06:29 GMT
People are excited in the short term because their paychecks went up a little. The numbers will go down again when they see what has to be cut from the federal budget to pay for the tax cuts. Thanks, Merge! My mind was blown away looking at some of those favorable numbers but your explanation put it in much better perspective. I think there's also some effect from the fact that Trump has been in office for over a year now. People will start seeing it as "his" economy, for better or for worse, rather than Obama's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 18:12:18 GMT
Good news: Bob Mueller’s Investigation Is Larger—and Further Along—Than You Think"President Trump claimed in a tweet over the weekend that the controversial Nunes memo “totally vindicates” him, clearing him of the cloud of the Russia investigation that has hung over his administration for a year now. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, if anything, the Mueller investigation appears to have been picking up steam in the past three weeks—and homing in on a series of targets. We speak about the “Mueller probe” as a single entity, but it’s important to understand that there are no fewer than five (known) separate investigations under the broad umbrella of the special counsel’s office—some threads of these investigations may overlap or intersect, some may be completely free-standing, and some potential targets may be part of multiple threads. But it’s important to understand the different “buckets” of Mueller’s probe."
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2018 21:03:16 GMT
And yes, if true it’s a very bad sign. Seems to be so... They should be ashamed of themselves. Who does Nunes think he is? Past time for some one to step in, but I guess Ryan is not up to it, word not fit to type!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 21:28:24 GMT
Dow down. Gov't about to shutdown. Trump planning fancy show parade.
#TiredOfWinning yet?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2018 22:39:47 GMT
Found the article to connect with the article I posted above about Kelly knowing about Porter's actions and Kelly defending him! John Kelly showed his true colorsBy Dorothy A. Brown Updated 9:00 PM ET, Fri October 20, 2017 He also talked wistfully about how women were sacred in his youth and he seemed to long for those times. Kelly was born in 1950, so his youth wasn't particularly the best time for women or people of color in the US. Also, women have never been treated like we were sacred. Not when Kelly was a child and not in 2017. Some context: October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month. It was not created because once upon a time women were sacred but now we need a month dedicated to domestic violence awareness because somehow we lost our way. Marital rape was not even a crime until 1979 -- and at the time was still not a crime in every state.** If women were sacred, Kelly would not have referred to an elected member of Congress, a black woman, as an "empty barrel" -- an insult to Frederica Wilson's intelligence that was far out of line for someone who claims not to want to politicize this situation further. Neither would he have lied about what Wilson said at a dedication ceremony of an FBI building in 2015. www.cnn.com/2017/10/20/opinions/john-kelly-press-conference-dorothy-brown-opinion/index.htmlSo much for Kelly's valuing women!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 23:09:54 GMT
AP...
“BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul holds up votes on the budget deal, says Republicans and Democrats are 'spending us into oblivion.'”
Ah no it’s the Republicans cutting taxes so much it’s sending us into oblibion. i
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 0:05:00 GMT
$1.5 TRILLION added to the deficit was just fine when it was to make the lives of the comfortable more comfortable.
$600 BILLION added to the deficit is HORRIBLE when it is to make the lives of the afflicted more comfortable.
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Post by Merge on Feb 9, 2018 1:31:23 GMT
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Post by jayfab on Feb 9, 2018 2:32:39 GMT
The world is truly upside down. SaveSave
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 9, 2018 3:12:29 GMT
1.5 trillion is changing................ The sneaky way Congress plans to raise the debt ceilingby Jeanne Sahadi @cnnmoney February 8, 2018: 3:49 PM ET But the bipartisan deal would accomplish that in a back-door way -- by suspending the legal cap on U.S. borrowing for a year. The debt limit is currently set at $20.456 trillion. Rather than raise that limit by a specific dollar amount -- which would require publicly acknowledging the country's costs going forward -- the budget deal would suspend the limit through March 1, 2019. A suspension lets the U.S. Treasury borrow as needed to satisfy the country's legal obligations in full and on time. Those obligations include everything from veteran benefits and military paychecks to contractor fees and bills incurred by all federal programs. Once the suspension ends, the amount borrowed during the suspension period will be added to the legal debt limit. You can read the rest at the link: money.cnn.com/2018/02/08/news/economy/debt-limit/index.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 14:24:30 GMT
Good morning!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 18:27:17 GMT
John Aravosis....
“Trump defends top White House staffer accused of serial wife-beating: “We wish him well, it’s obviously a tough time for him.” @cnnpolitics”
Tough time for him... Let’s all feel sorry for a guy who hits women. It appears trump is sympathetic to guys who hit women...
If people can’t see what is wrong with his statement and condem it then they are no better then the guy who thinks it’s ok to hit women.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 18:54:56 GMT
trump...
“Without more Republicans in Congress, we were forced to increase spending on things we do not like or want in order to finally, after many years of depletion, take care of our Military. Sadly, we needed some Dem votes for passage. Must elect more Republicans in 2018 Election!
Costs on non-military lines will never come down if we do not elect more Republicans in the 2018 Election, and beyond. This Bill is a BIG VICTORY for our Military, but much waste in order to get Dem votes. Fortunately, DACA not included in this Bill, negotiations to start now!“
”We we’re forced to increase spending”. No the Republicans increased the spending because they were nervous about the mid-term elections.
“Spending on what we don’t like or want”. You are correct there, the cost to haul your ass to Florida and protect it while it’s there is way too much and should be cut.
“ Take care of our military”. While I don’t have a problem with taking care of our military I would like an outside audit done on what the military is doing with the money we already give them. Our budget for the military is the total of the next 7 countries military budgets that includes Russia and China. There is something wrong somewhere and we don’t have the money to throw in a bottomless pit.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 9, 2018 19:21:21 GMT
”We we’re forced to increase spending”. No the Republicans increased the spending because they were nervous about the mid-term elections. No you gave your millionaire buddies too many large tax cuts!
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