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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 21:40:09 GMT
not according to a special on it I watched last night.
what I saw was horrifying. in just doing a simple math problem. They had people 'test' it. An engineer, a teacher... they were horrified by it also. oh, it was a simple math problem for maybe a 3rd or 4th grader. maybe even younger.
btw, what happened now to 'just give 'em all a trophy' ? Because the "specials" you watch are full of misinformation and downright lies. Teachers that are actually teaching in schools with common core are telling you what it is. They know. Your "journalists" have an agenda.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 9, 2014 0:05:18 GMT
not according to a special on it I watched last night.
what I saw was horrifying. in just doing a simple math problem. They had people 'test' it. An engineer, a teacher... they were horrified by it also. oh, it was a simple math problem for maybe a 3rd or 4th grader. maybe even younger.
btw, what happened now to 'just give 'em all a trophy' ? The special was spinning the story. Yes, there are higher standards that are held accountable now. Yes there are even some difficult math concepts that are being tested, but the HOW of how you get to the standards is ultimately up to state, districts, schhols, and teachers (in that order). Now, if you asked me what I think about the testing the do to show mastery, THAT is where my issues with Common Core comes in and even that isn't common core per say, but rather the tests each state chosen to use.
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Post by *sprout* on Sept 9, 2014 0:25:29 GMT
not according to a special on it I watched last night.
what I saw was horrifying. in just doing a simple math problem. They had people 'test' it. An engineer, a teacher... they were horrified by it also. oh, it was a simple math problem for maybe a 3rd or 4th grader. maybe even younger.
btw, what happened now to 'just give 'em all a trophy' ? Math major and elementary teacher here. Math has had weird, funky algorithms for solving simple problems long before common core was ever around.
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Post by Merge on Sept 9, 2014 0:51:38 GMT
There is plenty to dislike about common core (and Texas' TEKS), but this isn't it. Those of us who disagree with education by corporation - which is the end game with this nonsense, make no mistake - don't do ourselves any favors when we mulishly insist that every educational problem has something to do with common core.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Sept 9, 2014 0:56:12 GMT
Somewhere on the Internet is a teacher and a guidance counselor typing "My first run-in with a psycho know-it-all helicopter parent".
And please, someone take away Skybar's TV once and for all.
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Nicole in TX
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Post by Nicole in TX on Sept 9, 2014 2:02:42 GMT
I think this may be just the type of daughter your teacher needs. She seems to excel in a regular classroom, maybe she needs someone to push her a bit beyond.
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Post by Belia on Sept 9, 2014 3:38:29 GMT
I've been trying to figure out how to say what I want to say in a manner that won't rub folks the wrong way, but I don't think I'll be able to. So I'll just say it.
I think you're completely lacking perspective. What's the goal here? For your daughter to get a certain grade? Or for your daughter to learn World History? And perhaps demonstrate her knowledge of what she's learned in World History with more depth than she could in years past?
You could most help your daughter by putting the focus back on what matters- learning the course content, and demonstrating her learning to the best of her ability.
You chose the less rigorous course. The different teaching methods than what your daughter is accustomed to is a consequence.
I would be shutting down her daily complaints about the course, pronto. Those complaints are allowing her shift her (and your) focus away from what truly matters, which is learning the course content. If she has time to whine about pizza parties and "easy" grading rubrics, then she has time to double down on her Renaissance project.
And I find this most troubling of all:
I don't think your daughter should get a GPA bump for purposely enrolling in a less rigorous class that is below her ability level. She took the easy way out, and now she wants a bump in her GPA for (probably) doing less work, or easier work, than her peers who enrolled in the tougher class? No way.
Don't get me wrong- I'm not saying she should have enrolled in Humanities. Maybe she really would have been overwhelmed. Maybe she really doesn't have the time required for that course. Every family has to make the right choice for themselves. But if you don't take on the challenge, then you shouldn't get the benefit of the higher GPA.
I just think your whole attitude is so misguided. It shouldn't be about the GPA.... it should be about the LEARNING.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 9, 2014 3:58:56 GMT
not according to a special on it I watched last night.
what I saw was horrifying. in just doing a simple math problem. They had people 'test' it. An engineer, a teacher... they were horrified by it also. oh, it was a simple math problem for maybe a 3rd or 4th grader. maybe even younger.
btw, what happened now to 'just give 'em all a trophy' ? Math major and elementary teacher here. Math has had weird, funky algorithms for solving simple problems long before common core was ever around. This could not be more true. I remember when we taught the students lattice for multiplication for them to double check their work. Parents went ballistic. The new fangled (not their words) math was out of control. Lattice has been around for hundreds of years. It made me chuckle. I believe the purpose of common core is to spend time with mathematics understanding concepts at a deeper level. So if students spend more time with a concept and learn it using an array, or model, or equation, then more power to them. They can truly understand math when they can prove/show it several ways. I think some parents tend to get nervous about being able to help their kids. I get that. When the first national tests roll out this March, educators will get to see what/how these standards are really being tested. I have to wonder if these people that are "horrified" will feel the same way. Time will tell.
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Post by thelmalou on Sept 9, 2014 4:29:30 GMT
How nice that so many jumped on the op for not knowing what common core is or isn't. Can't you look beyond your catch phrase words and see the point of the post?
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Post by powderhorngreen on Sept 9, 2014 5:47:37 GMT
^^^^^THAT^^^^^^^
You are doing your daughter absolutely no favor at all!!!!!!! She will go to college, she will survive, she will thrive. In fact, she will be better off in the long run if she learns the lessons being offered here. Time to turn in the helicopter keys.
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