scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Jan 25, 2018 21:01:09 GMT
I never noticed before in that first video George Bush is holding Michelle's hand as they walk away...that's kind of sweet. I Know y’all don’t like George Bush but you have to admit he was a well mannered & kind person who appears to care for his wife. And care about humanity in general. Who knew those were qualities we’d miss in a President. I love George Bush. Even though I disagreed with some of his decisions, I always found him to be someone who is compassionate, loves his family, loves his country and took his job seriously. I feel the same way about his father. I truly believe that he made decisions that he believed were best for the country.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Jan 26, 2018 10:57:11 GMT
Me too. I remember when he was president and the amount of hatred thrown at him (especially remember the old board). I remember disagreeing with his politics, but never felt embarrassed at the idea of his presidency the way I do with Trump.
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Post by rainangel on Jan 26, 2018 11:28:59 GMT
Ahh, you're probably right. She probably invested her modeling money. SaveSaveHow much did she really make, though? How long did she actually work, and was she highly paid, before she hooked up with It? I have no idea how much she made from her modeling career, but I do remember they got paid quite a bit of money from a magazine to have her weddingdress on the cover, BEFORE the wedding. I would guess that if she did leave the ogre, she would be okay. But is 'okay' good enough after years of the lavish lifestyle she's had? But I think her main focus would be Barron. Protecting him from the media, the crazys and his dad would not be cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 11:44:57 GMT
I feel bad for Melania and Barron. Every time I hear the name "Stormy Daniels," or see her face on t.v. I want to take a shower. I can't imagine how Melania feels.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 26, 2018 16:47:35 GMT
Hopefully she is gathering her jewels and personal papers to take away... Just like we advise peas when they are thinking of leaving:set a plan in motion.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 26, 2018 17:11:12 GMT
I don't give a damn what she does. She is creepy to me. Anyone who would marry trump gets exactly what they asked for. I wish she would just go away.
The only person that I have any sympathy for is Barron. He will eventually be poisoned by being the offspring of his lunatic father. No kid deserves that.
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Post by pilcas on Jan 26, 2018 17:43:39 GMT
Personally, I think she may not like Trump but she likes the lifestyle. Perhaps we are giving her more credit than she deserves and she shares his values. If she wanted her freedom more than $$ she would leave him.
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moodyblue
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Post by moodyblue on Jan 26, 2018 18:07:14 GMT
I have a great deal of sympathy and some concern for Barron. He is the true innocent who did not choose any of this.
Melania married Trump knowing he was a cheater. She is considerably younger than he, but was not a very young, naive person at the time. I believe they were together for some time before marrying. She knew who and what he was, and chose to marry and have a child with him. She may have truly loved him at the time. I don't know about her feelings now, but I'm pretty sure she didn't want to be in this position; she seems to have kept her daily life pretty private for years.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 26, 2018 18:47:24 GMT
God, watching that is so depressing. Trump is just so uncouth, disrespectful, and ill mannered. What in the world did any woman see in him? A real woman doesn't fall for it. It's a conscious decision by a female to overlook it in order to get what they want from him. And I don't have an ounce of respect or sympathy for anyone who does that, and then goes ahead and procreates.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 26, 2018 20:05:16 GMT
God, watching that is so depressing. Trump is just so uncouth, disrespectful, and ill mannered. What in the world did any woman see in him? A real woman doesn't fall for it. It's a conscious decision by a female to overlook it in order to get what they want from him. And I don't have an ounce of respect or sympathy for anyone who does that, and then goes ahead and procreates. I don't think this is entirely fair, there are certainly very charming liars who don't show their true colors for years. In addition Donald Trump is clearly a very good con man, look how far it's taken him! That being said, it's very sad to me when women choose a known cheater, assuming the previous wife/wives were the problem and that it will be different with them. I can only imagine how utterly foolish one feels when they realize the cheater they chose is a ...cheater.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 20:20:03 GMT
I feel bad for Melania and Barron. Every time I hear the name "Stormy Daniels," or see her face on t.v. I want to take a shower. I can't imagine how Melania feels. I guess Melania feels the same as Marla did and also Ivana before Marla. What made Melania think she was so special when it was par for the course by the man she married, it wasn't as if she didn't know what she was getting herself into. I do feel sorry for Barron though being part of this toxic family.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 26, 2018 20:22:21 GMT
I think right now her number one concern is raising Baron. That is an admirable quality. I don't know (or really care about) the marriage, but you can tell she wants the best for her kid. I just take the rest of the stories with a grain of salt and I think there is some truth to all of it, but it probably isn't exactly what everyone thinks it is. I agree that her primary concern is her son. I don’t think I would want to be chasing off here and there during the school year with or without my kid especially if the kid was in a new school, just changing from elementary to middle school or any other major transition.
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Post by lucillebluth on Jan 26, 2018 21:21:46 GMT
I think right now her number one concern is raising Baron. That is an admirable quality. I don't know (or really care about) the marriage, but you can tell she wants the best for her kid. I just take the rest of the stories with a grain of salt and I think there is some truth to all of it, but it probably isn't exactly what everyone thinks it is. I agree that her primary concern is her son. I don’t think I would want to be chasing off here and there during the school year with or without my kid especially if the kid was in a new school, just changing from elementary to middle school or any other major transition. But she was originally going to Davos, then called it off and went to Palm Beach instead (I can't tell whether Barron is with her in Palm Beach--if he went there, he probably could have taken another day or two off school and gone to Davos). Doesn't seem like this is about Barron, unless he had some sort of crisis.
Personally, I think she uses Barron as an excuse to do what she wants, like staying away from the White House as long as she possible could.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 26, 2018 21:59:29 GMT
I do feel sorry for Barron though being part of this toxic family
I don't feel particularly sorry for him - after all, why should we be more concerned about him than his own father is? Barron is old enough now to read for himself and understand what his father is doing. Melania married a man who was already proven to be a serial cheater, he cheated on his other wives, and she had a child knowing what sort of father Trump was going to be & what barron would be exposed to growing up. The fact that he gets to read about his father sleeping with and paying off a porn star won't come as any surprise to anyone in that family...the real surprise would have been if he hadn't done it.
If Melania's primary concern was her child, then she wouldn't have picked Trump to father him.
Plus look at the other 4 kids, they are all still hanging around supporting their father and pretending like nothing is wrong with what he does, and all are still living in his pocket...none of them have ventured out on their own. They all sycophants when it comes to dear old dad and it's probably never occurred to them that there's anything wrong with that. None of them have made any effort to distance themselves from him or his businesses. Barron will probably end up just the same & be perfectly happy with his life. I wouldn't waste any effort feeling sorry for that kid, & if Trump's other progeny are anything to go by, then odds are good he'll end up as a not too bright, swarmy con man (who kills wild animals in his spare time) as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 22:18:19 GMT
I do feel sorry for Barron though being part of this toxic family
I don't feel particularly sorry for him - after all, why should we be more concerned about him than his own father is? Barron is old enough now to read for himself and understand what his father is doing. .
I feel sorry for him because he's still a child at this point. He didn't ask to be born into this family and yes he is old enough to read and hear what they are saying about his father. That's the crux of the matter though isn't it ?...no child should have to listen or read that about his father. Whatever others might think of his father or however his father conducts his life, past or present, it's sad that a child of his age is experiencing it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 26, 2018 22:59:12 GMT
I agree that her primary concern is her son. I don’t think I would want to be chasing off here and there during the school year with or without my kid especially if the kid was in a new school, just changing from elementary to middle school or any other major transition. But she was originally going to Davos, then called it off and went to Palm Beach instead (I can't tell whether Barron is with her in Palm Beach--if he went there, he probably could have taken another day or two off school and gone to Davos). Doesn't seem like this is about Barron, unless he had some sort of crisis.
Personally, I think she uses Barron as an excuse to do what she wants, like staying away from the White House as long as she possible could.
I agree with you too, but at least it’s an acceptable excuse. I was just saying for myself, as a mother, I don’t want to pull my kid out of school unless I have no other option. I burned up a third of my kid’s winter break dragging her to dentist, doctor and orthodontist appointments because I didn’t want her to miss any class time.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 26, 2018 23:01:02 GMT
I do feel sorry for Barron though being part of this toxic family
I don't feel particularly sorry for him - after all, why should we be more concerned about him than his own father is? Barron is old enough now to read for himself and understand what his father is doing. Melania married a man who was already proven to be a serial cheater, he cheated on his other wives, and she had a child knowing what sort of father Trump was going to be & what barron would be exposed to growing up. The fact that he gets to read about his father sleeping with and paying off a porn star won't come as any surprise to anyone in that family...the real surprise would have been if he hadn't done it.
If Melania's primary concern was her child, then she wouldn't have picked Trump to father him.
Plus look at the other 4 kids, they are all still hanging around supporting their father and pretending like nothing is wrong with what he does, and all are still living in his pocket...none of them have ventured out on their own. They all sycophants when it comes to dear old dad and it's probably never occurred to them that there's anything wrong with that. None of them have made any effort to distance themselves from him or his businesses. Barron will probably end up just the same & be perfectly happy with his life. I wouldn't waste any effort feeling sorry for that kid, & if Trump's other progeny are anything to go by, then odds are good he'll end up as a not too bright, swarmy con man (who kills wild animals in his spare time) as well. Actually 3 kids. Tiffany is only brought into the fold when he needs to look fatherly or sympathetic. Otherwise, he has had nothing to do with her. Marla has raised her alone, which is better for Tiffany anyway.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 26, 2018 23:17:16 GMT
Please remember that as tall as Barron is, he is ONLY eleven years old. He is not even a teen yet.
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Post by ellen on Jan 27, 2018 0:19:53 GMT
I never noticed before in that first video George Bush is holding Michelle's hand as they walk away...that's kind of sweet. There is something very sweet about George Bush. It's not surprising that he and Michelle became good friends. I always liked his daughters and Laura. I did not vote for him and I was glad when his presidency was over, but I never thought that he was a terrible person. Our current president is an awful person. It's hard to find one redeeming quality. I do like those videos where they have put an accordion in his hands to make it look like he's playing it. That's all I've got. I like one thing about him when I pretend that he can play an accordion. That doesn't really count, does it? SaveSaveSaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by pjaye on Jan 27, 2018 0:29:33 GMT
Barron is, he is ONLY eleven years old What makes you think anyone has forgotten that? The other kids grew up exactly the same way....and I'm betting they would laugh if anyone said they felt sorry for them. They all seem perfectly happy riding daddy's crooked coattails and me speculating that Barron will end up being exactly the same makes no difference if he's currently 11yo or 21yo. He had his FLOOR in Trump Tower - remember that? Do you think his mother was sitting next to him all day and monitoring his internet use? I doubt she is now either. All he has to do is click on any legitimate news site to see what his father is up to, it's not exactly a secret, he can read all about the pussy grabbing for himself....and whose fault is it that at 11yo he can read about his father sleeping with a porn star? Not mine that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 0:37:43 GMT
Barron is, he is ONLY eleven years old What makes you think anyone has forgotten that? The other kids grew up exactly the same way....and I'm betting they would laugh if anyone said they felt sorry for them. They all seem perfectly happy riding daddy's crooked coattails and me speculating that Barron will end up being exactly the same makes no difference if he's currently 11yo or 21yo. He had his FLOOR in Trump Tower - remember that? Do you think his mother was sitting next to him all day and monitoring his internet use? I doubt she is now either. All he has to do is click on any legitimate news site to see what his father is up to, it's not exactly a secret, he can read all about the pussy grabbing for himself....and whose fault is it that at 11yo he can read about his father sleeping with a porn star? Not mine that's for sure. Who knows maybe Barron will turn out different despite people writing him off by saying he will just be like his old man. It’s been known to happen.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 27, 2018 0:55:08 GMT
Because WE need to have the courtesy to go with hands off minor children in the White House.
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Post by PLurker on Jan 27, 2018 1:01:08 GMT
God, watching that is so depressing. Trump is just so uncouth, disrespectful, and ill mannered. What in the world did any woman see in him? A real woman doesn't fall for it. It's a conscious decision by a female to overlook it in order to get what they want from him. And I don't have an ounce of respect or sympathy for anyone who does that, and then goes ahead and procreates. Yeah, I get where you coming from but don't totally agree. Everyone's life paths are different, come with different points of views/baggage and so on. Good for any and everyone who could see things so clearly. But not everyone does and aren't necessarily overlooking anything but seeing from a different lens of experiences. Until you walked in everyone's shoes...
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Post by pjaye on Jan 27, 2018 1:36:44 GMT
Because WE need to have the courtesy to go with hands off minor children in the White House. No, actually WE don't. You do what you want, I'll do what I want. Where did we sign up and agree to this "rule"? I sure didn't. I can say what I like, and if admin doesn't like it then I'm sure she'll let me know. However speculating about what a child *might* be like as an adult based on the family he is in and what his adult siblings are like hardly constitutes being negative about that minor child. Please show me where I have said a single negative word about Barron aged 11 in this thread? Saying that I don't feel sorry for him isn't a personal attack.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 2:28:19 GMT
I think she knows exactly what she is doing and there must be a payoff coming. The contempt for him is clear. She would be gone if there wasn’t some financial tie to stay. That being said I think she is lovely but I hold her completely at fault for standing by him as far as I’m concerned she is complicit as are all those who stand by him.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 27, 2018 2:42:20 GMT
I do feel bad for Barron. The company he keeps and the things he has been exposed to are all decided by his parents, and these thing on top of his family have a huge influence on the person he will become. When he gets older and moves out and can expose himself to the "real" world, to me that's when it becomes his responsibility to recognize what is happening and decide if he wants to change. He is more likely then to have the maturity and cognitive reasoning he doesn't as an eleven year old. And hopefully the self confidence to stand up against the world he was brought up in.
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