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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 15:50:03 GMT
Ladies—it’s crystal clear. They miss us. They miss the drama.
The conservative faction that is....not one “left” pea has gone to their self proclaimed conservative thread, to say anything, even though almost the entire substance of their thread is soley to bash, mock and make fun of liberals...
They cannot even get what IS being said over here on this thread right.
They don’t want discussion-they don’t want facts (Gia has ignored that her opinion that she has presented as factual is wrong) they want to sow discord, but they are relying on the left to respond and point out their false statements so that they can go back to their “safe place” and bitch about how nasty and mean we are.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 15:52:29 GMT
Liberals were asked to stay out of the conservatives thread so there could be discussion without arguments. Libs agreed. However, that thread is nothing but lib bashing (most by YOU..NO SUPRISE THERE). You can't expect to have YOUR own thread and then come and bitch in ours.
But hey, again..that's how you roll. This is not "your" thread. WTH makes you think you can tell someone they can't participate here? "Your" thread is the Trump catch-all thread and no one from the Right is in there. Want to link more of this over at “your” Conservation Catch all thread so that you can call us names, mock and make fun of us more, like you all have been doing since it was started?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 15:52:57 GMT
Ladies—it’s crystal clear. They miss us. They miss the drama. The conservative faction that is....not one “left” pea has gone to their self proclaimed conservative thread, to say anything, even though almost the entire substance of their thread is soley to bash, mock and make fun of liberals... They cannot even get what IS being said over here on this thread right. They don’t want discussion-they don’t want facts (Gia has ignored that her opinion that she has presented as factual is wrong) they want to sow discord, but they are relying on the left to respond and point out their false statements so that they can go back to their “safe place” and bitch about how nasty and mean we are. No, I haven't. I clearly addressed it. Learn to read.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 15:57:50 GMT
Gia’s just pissed now and on a roll since her false statements were called out for what they are—UNTRUE.
And she did not address the untrue statements she made either, she just tried to change the subject/focus.
I suggest continuing on with the money laundering discussion, because all she’s going to do is keep on with the redirect and try to control the narrative here with HRC hysterics.
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Post by Merge on Feb 6, 2018 15:57:53 GMT
I’m going to suggest that we ignore the person who only wants to derail. Clearly she’s not getting her drama needs met in the conservative thread. Ignore and move on.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:02:12 GMT
Excellent laid out article... www.wired.com/story/bob-muellers-investigation-is-largerand-further-alongthan-you-think/GARRETT M. GRAFF02.05.18 5:54 PM BOB MUELLER’S INVESTIGATION IS LARGER—AND FURTHER ALONG—THAN YOU THINK “President Trump claimed in a tweet over the weekend that the controversial Nunes memo “totally vindicates” him, clearing him of the cloud of the Russia investigation that has hung over his administration for a year now. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, if anything, the Mueller investigation appears to have been picking up steam in the past three weeks—and homing in on a series of targets. Last summer, I wrote an analysis exploring the “known unknowns” of the Russia investigation—unanswered but knowable questions regarding Mueller’s probe. Today, given a week that saw immense sturm und drang over Devin Nunes’ memo—a document that seems purposefully designed to obfuscate and muddy the waters around Mueller’s investigation—it seems worth asking the opposite question: What are the known knowns of the Mueller investigation, and where might it be heading? The first thing we know is that we know it is large. We speak about the “Mueller probe” as a single entity, but it’s important to understand that there are no fewer than five (known) separate investigations under the broad umbrella of the special counsel’s office—some threads of these investigations may overlap or intersect, some may be completely free-standing, and some potential targets may be part of multiple threads. But it’s important to understand the different “buckets” of Mueller’s probe. As special counsel, Mueller has broad authority to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump,” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation,” a catch-all phrase that allows him to pursue other criminality he may stumble across in the course of the investigation. As the acting attorney general overseeing Mueller, Rod Rosenstein has the ability to grant Mueller the ability to expand his investigation as necessary and has been briefed regularly on how the work is unfolding. Yet even without being privy to those conversations, we have a good sense of the purview of his investigation. Right now, we know it involves at least five separate investigative angles: 1. Preexisting Business Deals and Money Laundering. Business dealings and money laundering related to Trump campaign staff, including former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former campaign aide Rick Gates, are a major target of the inquiry. While this phase of the investigation has already led to the indictment of Gates and Manafort, it almost certainly will continue to bear further fruit. Gates appears to be heading toward a plea deal with Mueller, and there is expected to be a so-called “superseding” indictment that may add to or refine the existing charges. Such indictments are common in federal prosecutions, particularly in complicated financial cases where additional evidence may surface. Mueller’s team is believed to have amassed more than 400,000 documents in this part of the investigation alone. There have also been reports—largely advanced through intriguing reporting by Buzzfeed—about suspicious payments flagged by Citibank that passed through the accounts of the Russian embassy in the United States, including an abnormal attempted $150,000 cash withdrawal by the embassy just days after the election. 2. Russian Information Operations. When we speak in shorthand about the “hacking of the election,” we are actually talking about unique and distinct efforts, with varying degrees of coordination, by different entities associated with the Russian government. One of these is the “information operations” (bots and trolls) that swirled around the 2016 election, focused on social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter, possibly with the coordination or involvement of the Trump campaign’s data team, Cambridge Analytica. Presumably these so-called active measures were conducted by or with the coordination of what’s known colloquially as the Russian troll factory, the Internet Research Agency, in St. Petersburg. The extent to which these social media efforts impacted the outcome of the election remains an open question, but according to Bloomberg these social media sites are a “red hot” focus of Mueller’s team, and he obtained search warrants to examine the records of companies like Facebook. In recent weeks, social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter have begun working to notify more than a million users they suspect interacted with Russian trolls and propaganda. 3. Active Cyber Intrusions. Separate from the trolls and bots on social media were a series of active operations and cyber intrusions carried out by Russian intelligence officers at the GRU and the FSB against political targets like John Podesta and the DNC. We know that Russian intelligence also penetrated the Republican National Committee, but none of those emails or documents were made public. This thread of the investigation may also involve unofficial or official campaign contacts with WikiLeaks or other campaign advisers, like Roger Stone, as well as the warning—via the Australian government—that former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos appeared to have foreknowledge of the hacking of Democratic emails. Western intelligence, specifically the Dutch intelligence service AVID, has evidently been monitoring for years the “Advanced Persistent Threats”—government-sponsored hackers who make up the Russia teams known as Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, which were responsible for the attacks on Democratic targets. AVID even evidently managed to penetrate a security camera in the workspace of Cozy Bear, near Red Square in Moscow, and take screenshots of those working for the team. According to The Wall Street Journal, there are at least six Russian intelligence officers who may already be identified as personally responsible for at least some of these intrusions. Bringing criminal charges against these individuals would be consistent with the practices established over the past five years by the Justice Department’s National Security Division, which indicted—and in some cases even arrested—specific government and military hackers from nation-states like Iran, China, and Russia. 4. Russian Campaign Contacts. This corner of the investigation remains perhaps the most mysterious aspect of Mueller’s probe, as questions continue to swirl about the links and contacts among Russian nationals and officials and Trump campaign staff, including Carter Page, the subject of the FISA warrant that was the focus of the Nunes memo. Numerous campaign (and now administration) officials have lied about or failed to disclose contacts with both Russian nationals and Russian government officials, from meetings with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak to government banker Sergey Gorkov to the infamous Trump Tower meeting arranged by Donald Trump Jr. with Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer Natalia V. Veselnitskaya. At least two members of the campaign—Papadopoulos and former national security adviser Michael Flynn—have already pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators about these contacts. But many other Trump aides face scrutiny, including Attorney General Jeff Sessions, White House adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. Some of these contacts may go back years; Page himself originally surfaced in January 2015 as “Male #1” in the indictment of three Russian SVR agents, working undercover in New York City, who had tried to recruit Page, an oil and gas adviser, as an intelligence asset, only to decide that he was too scatterbrained to be a useful source. 5. Obstruction of Justice. This is the big kahuna—the question of whether President Trump obstructed justice by pressuring FBI director James Comey to “look past” the FBI’s investigation of Michael Flynn and whether his firing in May was in any way tied to Comey’s refusal to stop the investigation. This thread, as far as we know from public reporting, remains the only part of the investigation that stretches directly into the Oval Office. It likely focuses not only on the President and the FBI director but also on a handful of related questions about the FBI investigation of Flynn and the White House’s statements about the Trump Tower meeting. The president himself has said publicly that he fired Comey over “this Russia thing.” There’s fresh reason to believe that this is an active criminal investigation; lost amid the news of the Nunes memo on Friday was a court ruling in a lawsuit where I and a handful of other reporters from outlets like CNN and Daily Caller are suing the Justice Department to release the “Comey memos”: The ruling held that, based on the FBI’s private testimony to the court—including evidence from Michael Dreeben, one of the leaders of the special counsel’s office—releasing the memos would compromise the investigation. “Having heard this, the Court is now fully convinced that disclosure ‘could reasonably be expected to interfere’ with that ongoing investigation,” the judge wrote in our case. Even the most generous interpretation of the Nunes memo—which has been widely debunked by serious analysts—raises questions only around the fourth thread of this investigation, insofar as it focuses on Carter Page, the one-time foreign policy adviser who appears to be ancillary to most of the rest of the Russia probes. All of the other avenues remain unsullied by the Nunes memo. The second thing that we know is that large parts of the investigation remain out of sight. While we’ve seen four indictments or guilty pleas, they only involve threads one (money laundering) and four (Russian campaign contacts). We haven’t seen any public moves or charges by Mueller’s team regarding the information operations, the active cyber intrusions, or the obstruction of justice investigation. We also know there’s significant relevant evidence that’s not yet public: Both Flynn and Papadopoulos traded cooperation and information as part of their respective plea deals, and none of the information that they provided has become public yet. We also know that, despite the relative period of quiet since Flynn’s guilty plea in December, Mueller is moving fast. While parts of the case will likely unfold and continue for years, particularly if some defendants head for trial, Mueller has in recent weeks been interviewing senior and central figures, like Comey and Sessions. He’s also begun working to interview President Trump himself. Given that standard procedure would be to interview the central figure in an investigation last—when all the evidence is gathered—it seems likely that such interest means that Mueller is confident he knows what he needs to know for the obstruction case, at least. All of these pieces of public evidence, the “known knowns,” point to one conclusion: Bob Mueller has a busy few weeks ahead of him—and the sturm und drang of the last week will likely only intensify as more of the investigation comes into public view. 👍
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 6, 2018 16:07:58 GMT
This thread is pathetic. I’d expect more from middle school girls. I don’t know why @giupea is fixated on hrc - it’s a waste of time and energy - but she did not derail this thread alone and there’s quite a few drama lovers here. Same characters over and over again who clearly relish the drama - throw in a few surprising our threads and you have classic petty online bickering and you v us. You can’t control other people’s responses - only your own and if you dive in the muck you’re not accomplishing anything but making yourself look bad.
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Post by Merge on Feb 6, 2018 16:11:56 GMT
This thread is pathetic. I’d expect more from middle school girls. I don’t know why @giupea is fixated on hrc - it’s a waste of time and energy - but she did not derail this thread alone and there’s quite a few drama lovers here. Same characters over and over again who clearly relish the drama - throw in a few surprising our threads and you have classic petty online bickering and you v us. You can’t control other people’s responses - only your own and if you dive in the muck you’re not accomplishing anything but making yourself look bad. So are you here to add something to the conversation, or did you just come to handslap? I’ll admit I haven’t had time to read up on the money laundering issue, so I have nothing of substance to add at this time. Even you have to admit that starting a conservatives-only thread that purports to be a safe place to share political opinion, but is in reality a place for people to criticize and make fun of specific liberals, was bound to end badly.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:13:18 GMT
Just so we are crystal clear here—- This is straight from the conservative thread—as to who and what can be posted THERE. And the left were happy to leave them alone. And the irony of the OP (yeah, so much for that! And by who?—yup—the usual players!) And their outrageous (and untrue) claims that disparage those on the left: Not one leftie here ever claimed that ALL political threads were owned by the Dems/liberals. But facts have not been their strong suit here lately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:17:02 GMT
I’m going to suggest that we ignore the person who only wants to derail. Clearly she’s not getting her drama needs met in the conservative thread. Ignore and move on. Someone responding to the topic with a different viewpoint is not derailing the thread. Unless you're claiming only one viewpoint is allowed.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 6, 2018 16:19:00 GMT
This thread is pathetic. I’d expect more from middle school girls. I don’t know why @giupea is fixated on hrc - it’s a waste of time and energy - but she did not derail this thread alone and there’s quite a few drama lovers here. Same characters over and over again who clearly relish the drama - throw in a few surprising our threads and you have classic petty online bickering and you v us. You can’t control other people’s responses - only your own and if you dive in the muck you’re not accomplishing anything but making yourself look bad. So are you here to add something to the conversation, or did you just come to handslap? I’ll admit I haven’t had time to read up on the money laundering issue, so I have nothing of substance to add at this time. I’m perfectly comfortable with my contribution to this thread and its reflection on me - can you say the same?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:20:49 GMT
No, silly, they get a safe space where they can accuse us of all kinds of things without any rebuttal. But we’re supposed to engage politely with them on our threads with them no matter how nasty they are, or how irrelevant their posts, because otherwise we obviously just want an echo chamber. Kinda makes you wonder who the snowflakes are, doesn’t it? Your threads?! This message board is open to all members. These aren't "your" threads. It has been stated that nobody with a different opinion be acknowledged on the ONE specific Trump bashing thread. Until that moment there was no indication that there was segregation going on in that thread and opposing opinions or different viewpoints weren't "allowed". Since it's now clear there is, that sure sounds like you want an echo chamber in at least that one thread and now, you're objecting to the Left participating on any other thread. If the echo chamber fits. It might be more appropriate that you answer the OP's question @mytnice if participation in this thread is so important to you, Do you have an opinion on any part of this opening post? Leaving aside the fact that you have told us, many times, that you are not a Trump supporter, do you have an opinion on the suggestion that he is involved in money laundering? Maybe back it up with some concrete evidence that he isn't.?As at the moment there seems to be a lot of articles that have been written by some reasonable people out there that actually have some facts in them that he could quite possibly be very involved.
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Post by Merge on Feb 6, 2018 16:22:30 GMT
So are you here to add something to the conversation, or did you just come to handslap? I’ll admit I haven’t had time to read up on the money laundering issue, so I have nothing of substance to add at this time. I’m perfectly comfortable with my contribution to this thread and its reflection on me - can you say the same? Absolutely.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:23:33 GMT
Yes, we are the mean and nasty...because we call out the lies and untruthful statements of the right, as well as calling them out for their own irony and hypocrisy where the have a thread engaging in pretty much nothing more than mocking and making fun of those who share a different view point. Unbelievable...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:28:15 GMT
This thread is pathetic. I’d expect more from middle school girls. I don’t know why @giupea is fixated on hrc - it’s a waste of time and energy - but she did not derail this thread alone and there’s quite a few drama lovers here. Same characters over and over again who clearly relish the drama - throw in a few surprising our threads and you have classic petty online bickering and you v us. You can’t control other people’s responses - only your own and if you dive in the muck you’re not accomplishing anything but making yourself look bad. I was responding to the belief that most of us hold, that you shouldn't be allowed to sidestep security rules and regulations no matter who you are. Hillary was the most recent example of it seeming to be otherwise.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:28:33 GMT
I’m going to suggest that we ignore the person who only wants to derail. Clearly she’s not getting her drama needs met in the conservative thread. Ignore and move on. Someone responding to the topic with a different viewpoint is not derailing the thread. Unless you're claiming only one viewpoint is allowed. When you change the topic of the thread in your sharing, and your contribution is riddled with opinion presented as fact, and then you get all hysterical when your untruths are pointed out...don’t expect anyone not to call you out on the untruthfulness Gia. And then, you run—-literally run Over to “your” conservative catch-all thread to mock and make fun of those who have called out the lies. You just want drama. But hey, echo chamber, but but but HRC, Obama’s was bad...(I think I’ve said all the right phrases)
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Post by mom on Feb 6, 2018 16:30:05 GMT
papercrafteradvocate Please don't drag me into this conversation. I have always tried to learn from those who see things different from me, and have never been ugly to you. The discord on the board DOES make me sad. I have been vocal in the past about trying to hear both sides of the political debate. I read (most) of the Political threads to learn. But when there is mudslinging its hard to understand anyone's point.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:34:55 GMT
papercrafteradvocate Please don't drag me into this conversation. I have always tried to learn from those who see things different from me, and have never been ugly to you. The discord on the board DOES make me sad. I have been vocal in the past about trying to hear both sides of the political debate. I read (most) of the Political threads to learn. But when there is mudslinging its hard to understand anyone's point. And I wasn’t being ugly to you. I wasn’t mudslinging anyone either—pointing out the untruths that were being inserted here is not mudslinging. You stated that we were nasty and ugly. I didn’t make those statements, you did. I didn’t say you were nasty or mean either, I was simply pointing out the irony. And, ironically on the thread where the OP of the thread has specifically asked the posters on that thread not to engage in name calling, etc... So, how do you think we all feel with the liberal bash going on over there?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:35:28 GMT
Your threads?! This message board is open to all members. These aren't "your" threads. It has been stated that nobody with a different opinion be acknowledged on the ONE specific Trump bashing thread. Until that moment there was no indication that there was segregation going on in that thread and opposing opinions or different viewpoints weren't "allowed". Since it's now clear there is, that sure sounds like you want an echo chamber in at least that one thread and now, you're objecting to the Left participating on any other thread. If the echo chamber fits. It might be more appropriate that you answer the OP's question @mytnice if participation in this thread is so important to you, Do you have an opinion on any part of this opening post? Leaving aside the fact that you have told us, many times, that you are not a Trump supporter, do you have an opinion on the suggestion that he is involved in money laundering? Maybe back it up with some concrete evidence that he isn't.?As at the moment there seems to be a lot of articles that have been written by some reasonable people out there that actually have some facts in them that he could quite possibly be very involved. I don't know enough about the money laundering, but if he's guilty of it he should be held accountable. There's nothing wrong with which part of the discussion I choose to respond to. You can not dictate what others respond to. As long as I'm respectfully responding to what someone is saying with my point of view, I'm "appropriate" in the discussion. And that is what I did.
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Post by Merge on Feb 6, 2018 16:37:36 GMT
I’m going to suggest that we ignore the person who only wants to derail. Clearly she’s not getting her drama needs met in the conservative thread. Ignore and move on. Someone responding to the topic with a different viewpoint is not derailing the thread. Unless you're claiming only one viewpoint is allowed. On a thread about Trump and money laundering, this was your first post: Not relevant and also not factual = derailing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:38:20 GMT
This thread is pathetic. I’d expect more from middle school girls. I don’t know why @giupea is fixated on hrc - it’s a waste of time and energy - but she did not derail this thread alone and there’s quite a few drama lovers here. Same characters over and over again who clearly relish the drama - throw in a few surprising our threads and you have classic petty online bickering and you v us. You can’t control other people’s responses - only your own and if you dive in the muck you’re not accomplishing anything but making yourself look bad. I was responding to the belief that most of us hold, that you shouldn't be allowed to sidestep security rules and regulations no matter who you are. Hillary was the most recent example of it seeming to be otherwise. No, you inserted statues that were not applicable to the post by person you were responding to (in regards to presidential candidates) and when others pointed out that you were wrong, and only are trying to back track and generalize it away. You’re not a victim here Gia.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:39:33 GMT
Someone responding to the topic with a different viewpoint is not derailing the thread. Unless you're claiming only one viewpoint is allowed. On a thread about Trump and money laundering, this was your first post: Not relevant and also not factual = derailing. I’m being to think we need to give her access to a dictionary— Deflection and trying to control the narrative at a minimum!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:44:33 GMT
Someone responding to the topic with a different viewpoint is not derailing the thread. Unless you're claiming only one viewpoint is allowed. On a thread about Trump and money laundering, this was your first post: Not relevant and also not factual = derailing. I was responding to the belief that most of us hold, that you shouldn't be allowed to sidestep security rules and regulations no matter who you are. Hillary was the most recent example of it seeming to be otherwise = relevant. There's nothing wrong with which part of the discussion I choose to respond to. You can not dictate what others respond to. As long as I'm respectfully responding to what someone is saying with my point of view, I'm not derailing.
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Post by mom on Feb 6, 2018 16:45:38 GMT
papercrafteradvocate Please don't drag me into this conversation. I have always tried to learn from those who see things different from me, and have never been ugly to you. The discord on the board DOES make me sad. I have been vocal in the past about trying to hear both sides of the political debate. I read (most) of the Political threads to learn. But when there is mudslinging its hard to understand anyone's point. And I wasn’t being ugly to you. I wasn’t mudslinging anyone either—pointing out the untruths that were being inserted here is not mudslinging. You stated that we were nasty and ugly. I didn’t make those statements, you did. I didn’t say you were nasty or mean either, I was simply pointing out the irony. And, ironically on the thread where the OP of the thread has specifically asked the posters on that thread not to engage in name calling, etc... So, how do you think we all feel with the liberal bash going on over there? You disagree there is ugliness going on with this thread? I can only be responsible for *my* actions, and *I* have not bashed anyone. My post, that you posted here, contains no untruths. It was how I feel & had no business being brought over here when I had not chosen to participate in this thread. Look, I am not going to get in a pissing match with you. In the past I have always been able to respect what you brought to the conversation, even if I didn't always agree with it. I have said many times that I don't completely identify with the right and don't identify with the left either. I am somewhere in the middle on most issues. I read the political threads so I can form my own opinion. SaveSave
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Post by Merge on Feb 6, 2018 16:47:13 GMT
On a thread about Trump and money laundering, this was your first post: Not relevant and also not factual = derailing. I was responding to the belief that most of us hold, that you shouldn't be allowed to sidestep security rules and regulations no matter who you are. Hillary was the most recent example of it seeming to be otherwise = relevant. There's nothing wrong with which part of the discussion I choose to respond to. You can not dictate what others respond to. As long as I'm respectfully responding to what someone is saying with my point of view, I'm not derailing. So do you consider a snarky 'but Hillary did it first' response to be respectful?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:52:16 GMT
I was responding to the belief that most of us hold, that you shouldn't be allowed to sidestep security rules and regulations no matter who you are. Hillary was the most recent example of it seeming to be otherwise = relevant. There's nothing wrong with which part of the discussion I choose to respond to. You can not dictate what others respond to. As long as I'm respectfully responding to what someone is saying with my point of view, I'm not derailing. So do you consider a snarky 'but Hillary did it first' response to be respectful?I did not say "Hillary did it first". I was responding to the belief that someone opined (a belief that most of us hold) that you shouldn't be allowed to sidestep security rules and regulations no matter who you are. Hillary was the most recent example of it seeming to be otherwise. Those are 2 entirely different points. Your point is not one I made, so yes I was being respectful with the actual point I made.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:56:50 GMT
I also wonder how some on the right feel about the many other missing emails - like GWB's 22 MILLION that went missing: www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html"For 18 months, Republican strategists, political pundits, reporters and Americans who follow them have been pursuing Hillary Clinton’s personal email habits, and no evidence of a crime has been found. But now they at least have the skills and interest to focus on a much larger and deeper email conspiracy, one involving war, lies, a private server run by the Republican Party and contempt of Congress citations—all of it still unsolved and unpunished. Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email server—its was owned by the Republican National Committee. And the Bush administration failed to store its emails, as required by law, and then refused to comply with a congressional subpoena seeking some of those emails. “It’s about as amazing a double standard as you can get,” says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. “If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers’ emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails set up on a private DNC server?”"
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 16:58:25 GMT
And I wasn’t being ugly to you. I wasn’t mudslinging anyone either—pointing out the untruths that were being inserted here is not mudslinging. You stated that we were nasty and ugly. I didn’t make those statements, you did. I didn’t say you were nasty or mean either, I was simply pointing out the irony. And, ironically on the thread where the OP of the thread has specifically asked the posters on that thread not to engage in name calling, etc... So, how do you think we all feel with the liberal bash going on over there? You disagree there is ugliness going on with this thread? I can only be responsible for *my* actions, and *I* have not bashed anyone. My post, that you posted here, contains no untruths. It was how I feel & had no business being brought over here when I had not chosen to participate in this thread. Look, I am not going to get in a pissing match with you. In the past I have always been able to respect what you brought to the conversation, even if I didn't always agree with it. I have said many times that I don't completely identify with the right and don't identify with the left either. I am somewhere in the middle on most issues. I read the political threads so I can form my own opinion. SaveSaveDo you see anything hateful and ugly with the entire conservatives thread? I have not said anything ugly or hateful on this thread. I did not bash you either. You’re stating that we are all mean/nasty/hateful and it’s just not accurate when we are disputing untruths. I posted that your post was ironic, given all the circumstances. It’s okay for you to comment and pass judgement on us over on the other thread yet object to it being brought up here?
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Post by thundergal on Feb 6, 2018 16:59:26 GMT
Can I bring a moment of levity here? Am I the only one who didn't fully understand the concept of money laundering until some of you Peas got me hooked on that guilty pleasure show "Claws"? I haven't heard of this show but will check it out now. All of my money laundering education came from Ozark on Netflix. And what an education that was! (Highly recommend.)
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