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Post by deekaye on Jun 1, 2018 0:21:54 GMT
I've had the same family practice physician for years and years. He retired recently so I'm on the hunt for another physician. I had heard good things about a medical group in town so decided to try them. When I called to ask if they were taking new patients, they said they were and who would I like? I told them it didn't matter, but that I'd like a female physician. They asked the normal questions (name, age, address, insurance, etc.) and then asked if I was on any medications (I'm on two, pretty normal ones). That's all they asked. The receptionist then said that she would submit my request to Dr. H and "if she approves you, we will call you next week to set up an appointment".
Is this a normal thing? I'm not sure what there is to approve. Really, all she has to go on is that I'm an insured 57 year old female with two fairly common, routine medications.
I'm not upset at all, just surprised. Again, it's been years since I've had a new physician so maybe this is common?
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Post by MissBianca on Jun 1, 2018 0:30:26 GMT
My dentist has started to do this. She had a patient come in with a lot of issues, got a dental plan together then the patient never followed up but went on every review platform known to man saying that my dentist was horrible and didn’t do anything to help her. My dentist had to do a lot to save her reputation. Fast forward 10 years the lady comes back with a new name but my dentist recognized some of her issues and denied her as a patient.
I’m sure the doctors are trying to protect themselves from drug shoppers and other crazies.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 1, 2018 0:54:58 GMT
The only time that happened to me was because I was on Medicare. The office had to decide if they wanted another Medicare patient.
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Post by MrsDepp on Jun 1, 2018 0:58:25 GMT
Not a new thing
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 0:59:54 GMT
I think a lot more drs are doing this. I know that as square that was our primary dr is only taking new young clients with no problems.
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Post by fwscrapper on Jun 1, 2018 2:27:27 GMT
Yes, last year I had to submit a bunch of forms and then my son’s dr reviewed and decided if he would take him on. My son has chronic health issues, but nothing super bizarre.
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Post by flanz on Jun 1, 2018 2:32:46 GMT
I've never heard of this!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 2:37:10 GMT
I haven't encountered this yet. I think it's one thing if doctors are weeding out troublemakers, but I don't think I would want a doctor who only accepts easy cases. 
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Post by mcscrapper on Jun 1, 2018 3:10:39 GMT
Lots of private practices are doing this these days. For a lot of MDs, he or she may only take a new patient if the patient is "low maintenance" and not expected to come in every week for something. A patient that is on 30+ meds and an extensive medical history will be a lot more work and he/she may not have room in the practice for someone needing that much attention. A patient that has several hospital admissions may not be accepted either because a lot of MDs are no longer able to admit his or her own patients and rely on a hospitalist or another MD to do the admission which means no income to the PMD for the admission. Practices are also having to be pickier about insurance, too.
A provider can access a state-wide pharmacy database and other medical records and often determine whether or not to accept the patient based on that info. I know of a few MDs that check that religiously. If the doc thinks the patient is doc hoping, he won't accept that pt into the practice. Can't blame 'em!
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 1, 2018 5:24:50 GMT
No GPs are taking patients but I can't imagine that ever happening here. This is protest worthy.
I don't see my GP as often as she would like when I am just in maintenance mode. If I am sick I see her often. She is cool regardless.
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Post by katlaw on Jun 1, 2018 5:33:53 GMT
Something similar happened with my DH. The doctor's office said the doctor needs to balance the needs of all of his patients. He had a few very ill patients with some higher needs. He wanted to make sure any new patients he takes on will not need more time than he can give. Naturally things happen but to start with he wanted to have some control over the time commitment. I had never encountered this before but it makes sense.
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Post by Merge on Jun 1, 2018 10:44:08 GMT
You know, honestly, I wish that would happen here. I like my doctor, but hate that it takes a month to get an appointment because they are all booked up. It seems like better balancing the office's patient load might help with that.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 1, 2018 11:01:20 GMT
We are filling out the paperwork and paying the fee to transfer my mama's care to a concierge doctor. He strictly limits his patient load and rarely takes on new patients. The retainer fee you pay him annually basically buys you access to quicker, more personalized care and a guarantee that he will coordinate all your care, even while hospitalized.
I have no problem with the idea of private practice physicians limiting their practices. It might be frustrating if you can't get accepted as a patient, but there are alternatives for medical care available through other practices, doc-in-a-box places, and emergency care facilities. (And I'm perfectly aware there's somewhere out there that's an exception to this... don't be petty and give me your outlier situation. I'm speaking of the global, more general experience we all share.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 11:23:42 GMT
Oh that's just lovely. I "get" why they may be doing it but it just seems so wrong. I hope they are not doing it here. Dd will be aging out of her pediatrician's care next year. She has a lot of health problems/medications etc. I hope she is not rejected due to the unfortunate fact that she was born to parents that unknowingly passed along genes prone to auto-immune diseases. 
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Post by mom on Jun 1, 2018 11:35:01 GMT
You know, honestly, I wish that would happen here. I like my doctor, but hate that it takes a month to get an appointment because they are all booked up. It seems like better balancing the office's patient load might help with that. YES! We love our doctors and since they've started limiting who they take, our care has been awesome. Same day appointments. My Dr calls me personally to give me test results (even if the results are not unexpected). SaveSave
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 1, 2018 12:18:22 GMT
Yeah, that's great for the average person, but what about those with a chronic illness? It just seems wrong to me.
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Post by Fidget on Jun 1, 2018 13:06:02 GMT
They may want to be sure you are compliant with standardized testing. Many insurances now offer incentive payments to primary care physicians whose patient panel meets specific requirements for standardized testing. The idea is if patients pre-screen there will be less hospitalization / er visits. For example, colonoscopy at the appropriate age, mammograms at the appropriate age, well visit testing such as A1C (diabetes) etc. The insurances don't "ding" the physician for an illness or a negative / positive test result, they are awarded incentives for the patients merely being compliant with an annual well visit and other age appropriate screening(s) and including immunizations.
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Post by ashley on Jun 1, 2018 13:09:34 GMT
No GPs are taking patients but I can't imagine that ever happening here. This is protest worthy. I don't see my GP as often as she would like when I am just in maintenance mode. If I am sick I see her often. She is cool regardless. This happens here all the time. It’s very common. Basically doctors think they get to choose their clients, rather than clients having the choice of their provider. It is annoying.
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Post by Merge on Jun 1, 2018 13:18:05 GMT
Yeah, that's great for the average person, but what about those with a chronic illness? It just seems wrong to me. I'm thinking - and I could be wrong - that the idea is for people with chronic illnesses to seek care from specialists in the field of their illness, rather than going through their GP.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jun 1, 2018 13:24:08 GMT
Yeah, that's great for the average person, but what about those with a chronic illness? It just seems wrong to me. I'm thinking - and I could be wrong - that the idea is for people with chronic illnesses to seek care from specialists in the field of their illness, rather than going through their GP. Agreed - but I'm not going to go to my endocrinologist if I have an ear infection. But TBH, I don't even have a GP - I'm a loyal CVS Minute Clinic customer!
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Jun 1, 2018 13:51:08 GMT
There are not enough primary care physicians for the influx of now insured patients. We have physicians whose new patient appointment booking time is now 4-5 months out. 4 months is a very long time when you need medications and can't get them because of the changes to medications and prescriptions. You can get on the cancellation list but most of my patients have transportation issues and can't get to a last minute appointment easily. Daily I hear complaints of how hard it is to get an appointment even if you are an established patient. Many times those appointments are 2-3 weeks out. And then everyone wonders why Urgent Cares and ER's are overrun.
You have patients who legitimately need a lot of care because of their health conditions, but you also have a large population who doctor shops and are very non compliant. Doctors are starting to "fire" patients from their practice because of non compliance with the treatment plan. I get those calls too and man are the patients hot. They all blame the physician and have excuse after excuse why they can't follow the treatment plan. In some cases its opioid related but diabetics and people with high blood pressure are the worst. They don't want to follow their treatment plan, deny they have the conditions, and want to follow every single internet theory there is. They are always smarter than the doctors.
You couldn't pay me enough to be a doctor in this country right now. As much as nobody wants to hear it, this was one of the downfalls of the new insurance plan put in place by President Obama. Nobody looked at how it would impact the current physician availability. So while everyone is now insured, nobody can see a doctor when they need to because the sheer amount of patients overwhelmed the system. I feel that doctors who are doing this are smart. They are taking a hard look at their current patient population and needs and are adding based on what they can handle and still provide good quality care to their existing patients instead of taking on every single patient that comes their way and forcing their established patients into longer waiting times for care.
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Post by mcscrapper on Jun 1, 2018 14:28:12 GMT
There are not enough primary care physicians for the influx of now insured patients. We have physicians whose new patient appointment booking time is now 4-5 months out. 4 months is a very long time when you need medications and can't get them because of the changes to medications and prescriptions. You can get on the cancellation list but most of my patients have transportation issues and can't get to a last minute appointment easily. Daily I hear complaints of how hard it is to get an appointment even if you are an established patient. Many times those appointments are 2-3 weeks out. And then everyone wonders why Urgent Cares and ER's are overrun. You have patients who legitimately need a lot of care because of their health conditions, but you also have a large population who doctor shops and are very non compliant. Doctors are starting to "fire" patients from their practice because of non compliance with the treatment plan. I get those calls too and man are the patients hot. They all blame the physician and have excuse after excuse why they can't follow the treatment plan. In some cases its opioid related but diabetics and people with high blood pressure are the worst. They don't want to follow their treatment plan, deny they have the conditions, and want to follow every single internet theory there is. They are always smarter than the doctors. You couldn't pay me enough to be a doctor in this country right now. As much as nobody wants to hear it, this was one of the downfalls of the new insurance plan put in place by President Obama. Nobody looked at how it would impact the current physician availability. So while everyone is now insured, nobody can see a doctor when they need to because the sheer amount of patients overwhelmed the system. I feel that doctors who are doing this are smart. They are taking a hard look at their current patient population and needs and are adding based on what they can handle and still provide good quality care to their existing patients instead of taking on every single patient that comes their way and forcing their established patients into longer waiting times for care. This!!! 1000000x THIS!!! Please don't blame the MDs and NPs. All of this patient screening and approval is really driven by insurance companies. And please don't get me started on the people that abuse the ER and use it as their primary care. It truly is a drain on the system as a whole. SaveSave
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Post by littlemama on Jun 1, 2018 14:29:06 GMT
That seems crazy for a Family Doctor
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Jun 1, 2018 14:58:27 GMT
I went through something similar. I had my primary physcian for many years (probably at least 10) but I rarely went in. I'm one that only goes to the Dr when really necessary and luckily other than colds I have been mostly healthy while being his patient. I think I probably saw him maybe 6 times during those years because I really only needed to see my Gyno for yearly check-ups since he did bloodwork, scheduled mammo, etc. Last year I needed to see Primary Dr for something and was told that since I hadn't been in within the previous year I was dropped as a patient and would need to be reapproved. WHAT?!?!?!?!?! It really bothered me because I feel I am a good patient who doesn't go in for every sniffle. So why was I being dropped because I didn't go in for no reason what-so-ever every single year to make sure I could stay on as a patient? I have no idea if this was a new rule this office adopted or if this was from insurance because I got different stories. It honestly made zero sense to me. If they had told me I HAD to visit the office once a year to stay on as a patient, then at least I would have known beforehand and could have decided for myself if I wanted to follow these new rules. Even if it was a waste of time and insurance money. Anyways, when they called me back almost 2 weeks later to tell me they would accept me as a patient, I thanked them but had moved on. Luckily I found another Dr and was able to get in while waiting to be approved by the Dr I had been seeing for about 10 years.  Edited to add: After typing this out (and maybe my coffee has kicked in) I just had this though for the very first time...maybe I was dropped because he wasn't making money off of me? I really would hate to think a Dr would think like that but now I'm wondering....
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 1, 2018 15:00:46 GMT
No GPs are taking patients but I can't imagine that ever happening here. This is protest worthy. I don't see my GP as often as she would like when I am just in maintenance mode. If I am sick I see her often. She is cool regardless. This happens here all the time. It’s very common. Basically doctors think they get to choose their clients, rather than clients having the choice of their provider. It is annoying. If this happened here and it got known because there are 600,000 people in the province without family physicians there would be protests. This is BC we protest everything. We had a riot after the Canucks lost the Stanley Cup and another one after a Guns n Roses concert was cancelled.
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Post by katybee on Jun 1, 2018 15:11:17 GMT
Yeah, that's great for the average person, but what about those with a chronic illness? It just seems wrong to me. I'm thinking - and I could be wrong - that the idea is for people with chronic illnesses to seek care from specialists in the field of their illness, rather than going through their GP. My brother, who has stage 4 cancer, has 20 specialized doctors. But he still needs a PCP.
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Post by Merge on Jun 1, 2018 15:14:50 GMT
I'm thinking - and I could be wrong - that the idea is for people with chronic illnesses to seek care from specialists in the field of their illness, rather than going through their GP. My brother, who has stage 4 cancer, has 20 specialized doctors. But he still needs a PCP. Yes, you're right. I didn't think that through.
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Post by katybee on Jun 1, 2018 15:14:54 GMT
I went through something similar. I had my primary physcian for many years (probably at least 10) but I rarely went in. I'm one that only goes to the Dr when really necessary and luckily other than colds I have been mostly healthy while being his patient. I think I probably saw him maybe 6 times during those years because I really only needed to see my Gyno for yearly check-ups since he did bloodwork, scheduled mammo, etc. Last year I needed to see Primary Dr for something and was told that since I hadn't been in within the previous year I was dropped as a patient and would need to be reapproved. WHAT?!?!?!?!?! It really bothered me because I feel I am a good patient who doesn't go in for every sniffle. So why was I being dropped because I didn't go in for no reason what-so-ever every single year to make sure I could stay on as a patient? I have no idea if this was a new rule this office adopted or if this was from insurance because I got different stories. It honestly made zero sense to me. If they had told me I HAD to visit the office once a year to stay on as a patient, then at least I would have known beforehand and could have decided for myself if I wanted to follow these new rules. Even if it was a waste of time and insurance money. Anyways, when they called me back almost 2 weeks later to tell me they would accept me as a patient, I thanked them but had moved on. Luckily I found another Dr and was able to get in while waiting to be approved by the Dr I had been seeing for about 10 years.  Edited to add: After typing this out (and maybe my coffee has kicked in) I just had this though for the very first time...maybe I was dropped because he wasn't making money off of me? I really would hate to think a Dr would think like that but now I'm wondering.... You don’t even go in for once a year screenings/check-up?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 15:32:32 GMT
Yeah, that's great for the average person, but what about those with a chronic illness? It just seems wrong to me. I'm thinking - and I could be wrong - that the idea is for people with chronic illnesses to seek care from specialists in the field of their illness, rather than going through their GP. You still need a primary care physician for some things. Even for ordinary things like sinus infections. Sure you could go to a doc in a box, but they may not be familiar enough with your care, MANY meds and treatments to catch interactions etc. Plus, many people need a referral to see a specialist etc. My dd's pediatrican has been wonderful and I don't think a doc in a box would work for her care. Just recently we had to see the pediatrician about some ongoing problems that just can't be ascribed to any current diagnoses. So a referral to a cardiologist for possible pots syndrome. Something that until recently, many doctors weren't familiar with and even now it's not always known.
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Post by likescarrots on Jun 1, 2018 15:52:22 GMT
Yeah, that's great for the average person, but what about those with a chronic illness? It just seems wrong to me. I'm thinking - and I could be wrong - that the idea is for people with chronic illnesses to seek care from specialists in the field of their illness, rather than going through their GP. but a lot of insurance providers require a referral, and many specialists are also starting to require it to get an appointment. Also just because someone has a chronic condition doesn't mean they don't also need a gp for non related issues, check ups, etc. I agree with the previous poster, I think this is a dangerous precedent.
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