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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 6, 2018 23:21:16 GMT
I am truly sorry about your family, your sister. My brother died at 32...prescription drugs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 23:29:21 GMT
I am truly sorry about your family, your sister. My brother died at 32...prescription drugs. Sorry for your loss. My sister is 75 years old, and has had many medical problems, and I "guess" the doctors were just trying to help her, but now she's dealing with doctors that are being monitored for "overmedication" prescriptions, so it's hard for her to get the drugs she now "needs" to function. I hate that for her. She HAS been able to cut down, but I'd love it if she could get to a point that she didn't "need" them--which I guess is not gonna happen.  Some days I talk to her on the phone, and she can't even get a sentence out straight. I'm scared she's going to forget she already took them, and--well, you know. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 7, 2018 2:27:26 GMT
We have three pot shops in our town. They get robbed often and the robberies have escalated to armed robbery. It’s scary, but data and studies are usually years behind real time, so right now it’s just opinion and observation that crime has increased. They are mostly a cash businesses which makes them huge targets for armed robberies. Yep |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 7, 2018 15:36:01 GMT
This really ticks me off This guy is very left leaning and hates Trump so when he writes something positive about Trump, you know know it's true! I know both sides do it and it ticks me off every time. God forbid the *other side* will get credit for doing something good. Same thing with prison reform, the dems are terrified that Trump will get credit for doing something good. The GOP did the same thing when Obama was in office. It just makes me sick. 
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Post by #notLauren on Jun 7, 2018 16:32:16 GMT
I agree, Joy. But to acknowledge that Trump does something good would mean their mantra that Trump is the devil himself would no longer hold true. Many liberals simply won't allow themselves to do that.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 8, 2018 0:16:15 GMT
I'll tell you that I would like to see some diplomacy in dealing with North Korea. It's been a long time coming and I wish it had been done a heck of a lot sooner.
With that said, I'm very scared that Trump is going to be the one to do so. He has shown a lack of tact with our allies. The people who have had our back for a long time. It scares me to think that he could piss off North Korea. He's so very volatile. He lacks diplomacy. His tweets alone have been baiting north Korea.
My hesitation comes from what we've seen from him on many, many other occasions. I would have been alright with Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush Sr engaging north Korea. I am sweating over Trump.
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Post by Just T on Jun 8, 2018 0:46:23 GMT
I agree, Joy. But to acknowledge that Trump does something good would mean their mantra that Trump is the devil himself would no longer hold true. Many liberals simply won't allow themselves to do that. Yeah, and I am sure that YOU would have allowed yourself to acknowledge anything good Obama did, right? Back then, Obama was touted as the anti Christ who was going to declare marshal law so that he could remain in power forever.
And for the record, I am not an Obama fan. Just trying to point out the hypocrisy. I never took part in political threads in the old days, but there was certainly just as much trashing of Obama back then as there is of Trump now. Probably worse. I don't recall any Republicans who allowed themselves to acknowledge anything good Obama did.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 8, 2018 1:50:48 GMT
I agree, Joy. But to acknowledge that Trump does something good would mean their mantra that Trump is the devil himself would no longer hold true. Many liberals simply won't allow themselves to do that. Yeah, and I am sure that YOU would have allowed yourself to acknowledge anything good Obama did, right? Back then, Obama was touted as the anti Christ who was going to declare marshal law so that he could remain in power forever.
And for the record, I am not an Obama fan. Just trying to point out the hypocrisy. I never took part in political threads in the old days, but there was certainly just as much trashing of Obama back then as there is of Trump now. Probably worse. I don't recall any Republicans who allowed themselves to acknowledge anything good Obama did.
You're correct that some Peas bashed President Obama but to even compare it to the multiple daily threads about Trump is laughable. |
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Post by #notLauren on Jun 8, 2018 2:08:25 GMT
The liberals just can't stand the idea that the conservatives have a thread can they, lol
Miss T, you might want to look at the OP. This may not be the right thread for you.
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Post by Just T on Jun 8, 2018 2:46:03 GMT
The liberals just can't stand the idea that the conservatives have a thread can they, lol Miss T, you might want to look at the OP. This may not be the right thread for you. Well, I am NOT a liberal. I just happen to despise the things our president does/says/stands for. Maybe the OP should label the thread that only Trump lovers are welcome. I guess I am an oddity...a mostly conservative leaning person who thinks Trump is a despicable person.
I will not participate or comment on this thread anymore.
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 8, 2018 11:32:22 GMT
The liberals just can't stand the idea that the conservatives have a thread can they, lol Miss T, you might want to look at the OP. This may not be the right thread for you. Well, I am NOT a liberal. I just happen to despise the things our president does/says/stands for. Maybe the OP should label the thread that only Trump lovers are welcome. I guess I am an oddity...a mostly conservative leaning person who thinks Trump is a despicable person.
I will not participate or comment on this thread anymore.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 8, 2018 12:17:05 GMT
The liberals just can't stand the idea that the conservatives have a thread can they, lol Miss T, you might want to look at the OP. This may not be the right thread for you. Well, I am NOT a liberal. I just happen to despise the things our president does/says/stands for. Maybe the OP should label the thread that only Trump lovers are welcome. I guess I am an oddity...a mostly conservative leaning person who thinks Trump is a despicable person.
I will not participate or comment on this thread anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 12:54:33 GMT
It is possible to talk about conservative/republican/libertarian ideas and politics WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT TRUMP.
I believe my OP began with a linked article to that very effect.
Give it a whirl.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 8, 2018 13:02:31 GMT
It is possible to talk about conservative/republican/libertarian ideas and politics WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT TRUMP. I believe my OP began with a linked article to that very effect. Give it a whirl. Why don’t you bring up a topic then? Anytime anyone that is not a Trump supporter brings anything up we are told we are just stirring the pot. And right now, I honestly can’t think of anything anyone can bring up that won’t circle back to Trump. Trade deficit? Tariffs? Health care? Climate change? LGBTQ issues? Mental health? NRA? |
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Post by #notLauren on Jun 8, 2018 13:25:15 GMT
But that's just it. Why do people who hate Trump and who come on this thread simply to bash him or people posting on this thread simply not stay on the numerous other threads on this board? Is it really so difficult to allow one thread where conservatives can speak (after all there are many for the Trump and conservative haters) without feeling interrogated or belittled? Perhaps conservatives want a thread where everyone agrees with them. The Trump haters and liberals have at least a dozen.
For example: both Just T and Jullee's posts contribute absolutely nothing to discussion. They are here to as they would say "stir the pot" and nothing more.
There are so many other threads they can indulge themselves in doing this.
And with that, I'm going to follow the advise of the pea here who said to ignore the trolls. I think their sole purpose is to try to shut down threads like this by derailing them.
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Post by #notLauren on Jun 8, 2018 13:29:23 GMT
But that's just it; you ARE stirring the pot. This thread is clearly not for someone who is "not a Trump supporter"
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Post by lindas on Jun 8, 2018 13:31:48 GMT
(CNN)President Donald Trump says he wants to meet with NFL players and athletes who kneel during the National Anthem so they can recommend people they think should be pardoned because they were treated unfairly by the justice system.
"I'm going to ask them to recommend to me people who were unfairly treated," Trump said at the White House Friday.
The President said during the wide-ranging gaggle that he would consider pardoning or commuting the sentences of those recommended. He also floated a pardon for posthumous boxing great Muhammad Ali.
Certainly sounds like he's open to addressing some of their concerns. I wonder if any of them will take him up on his offer.
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Post by #notLauren on Jun 8, 2018 13:34:38 GMT
I doubt it. Trump is always "damned if he does; damned if he doesn't" Look at the situation with the Eagles. They all swore up and down that they would not go to the White House because they hate Trump. So, Trump withdrew the invite and then he's lambasted for withdrawing the invitation for an event that no one was coming to.
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Post by mom26 on Jun 8, 2018 13:45:54 GMT
I doubt it. Trump is always "damned if he does; damned if he doesn't" Look at the situation with the Eagles. They all swore up and down that they would not go to the White House because they hate Trump. So, Trump withdrew the invite and then he's lambasted for withdrawing the invitation for an event that no one was coming to. The Eagles players really pulled a shit move with that. They submitted a list of 80 names of those who would be attending to the Secret Service (for background checks and whatnot). Then, days before the event, announced that well, really only 2 or 3 will be coming. And then suggesting they reschedule? Say, for right around the time of Singapore Summit? Pretty immature game they tried to play and I'm not sure the outcome was what they expected. Don't fault Trump one bit for his decision to cancel the whole thing. |
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Post by mom26 on Jun 8, 2018 13:53:26 GMT
(CNN)President Donald Trump says he wants to meet with NFL players and athletes who kneel during the National Anthem so they can recommend people they think should be pardoned because they were treated unfairly by the justice system. "I'm going to ask them to recommend to me people who were unfairly treated," Trump said at the White House Friday. The President said during the wide-ranging gaggle that he would consider pardoning or commuting the sentences of those recommended. He also floated a pardon for posthumous boxing great Muhammad Ali. Certainly sounds like he's open to addressing some of their concerns. I wonder if any of them will take him up on his offer. I hope they do. They are being given a real opportunity here. They can continue to do nothing but kneel and make noise, accomplishing nothing, or they can come to the table with the issues and help to effect true change. Ball is in their court, now. If they are truly sincere in their cause, they should not hesitate to pick it up. |
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Post by bazinga on Jun 8, 2018 13:59:31 GMT
Well, I am NOT a liberal. I just happen to despise the things our president does/says/stands for. Maybe the OP should label the thread that only Trump lovers are welcome. I guess I am an oddity...a mostly conservative leaning person who thinks Trump is a despicable person.
I will not participate or comment on this thread anymore.
I admit, I am in the same circumstance and this is exactly why I'm hesitant to post here too. I enjoy your posts because they are respectful. I see Just T's post as aggressive. If she would have said something like "A lot of Republicans refused to say anything good about Obama when he was president," it would have been a true, respectful statement. I would like that post. I would probably even respond with something I like about Obama and something I (not a Trump fan) like about Trump. I think aggressive posts at best shut down conversations and at worst start arguments. |
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Post by dewryce on Jun 8, 2018 14:03:35 GMT
(CNN)President Donald Trump says he wants to meet with NFL players and athletes who kneel during the National Anthem so they can recommend people they think should be pardoned because they were treated unfairly by the justice system. "I'm going to ask them to recommend to me people who were unfairly treated," Trump said at the White House Friday. The President said during the wide-ranging gaggle that he would consider pardoning or commuting the sentences of those recommended. He also floated a pardon for posthumous boxing great Muhammad Ali. Certainly sounds like he's open to addressing some of their concerns. I wonder if any of them will take him up on his offer. I hope they do. They are being given a real opportunity here. They can continue to do nothing but kneel and make noise, accomplishing nothing, or they can come to the table with the issues and help to effect true change. Ball is in their court, now. If they are truly sincere in their cause, they should not hesitate to pick it up. Many of those people who were unfairly treated are dead. The players that kneeled didn't accomplish nothing, they brought a serious issue to the forefront. Some are choosing instead to discuss kneeling while ignoring the police brutality issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 14:04:31 GMT
Can someone help me try to understand the tariff disputes?
I keep seeing graphs showing how much the US gets charged by Canada, Mexico, Germany, etc. vs. what the US charges them. One that keeps standing out to me is Canada charges the US a 270% tariff on dairy. WHY?
I've heard little bits of the Macron/Trudeau press conference, and Macron makes a comment that the US doesn't mind being isolated, or something similar. Have any of these countries explained WHY we're getting charged so much more? On the surface it would seem those countries aren't willing to make it fair for the US. Sure seems like their priorities are their own countries first. 
What am I not understanding?
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Post by mom26 on Jun 8, 2018 14:08:06 GMT
I hope they do. They are being given a real opportunity here. They can continue to do nothing but kneel and make noise, accomplishing nothing, or they can come to the table with the issues and help to effect true change. Ball is in their court, now. If they are truly sincere in their cause, they should not hesitate to pick it up. Many of those people who were unfairly treated are dead. They didn't accomplish nothing, they brought a serious issue to the forefront. Some are choosing instead to discuss kneeling while ignoring the police brutality issue. And some are choosing to continue kneeling and squawking when they could actually DO something to address police brutality and be involved in the process that can have a real, true impact. |
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Post by dewryce on Jun 8, 2018 14:22:10 GMT
Many of those people who were unfairly treated are dead. They didn't accomplish nothing, they brought a serious issue to the forefront. Some are choosing instead to discuss kneeling while ignoring the police brutality issue. And some are choosing to continue kneeling and squawking when they could actually DO something to address police brutality and be involved in the process that can have a real, true impact. Being involved in the process? What process? This is a a gesture to make him look like he is doing something, nothing more. This will impact a handful of people, who have already been violated, not address the real issue of police brutality to make real changes for the future. Why is the onus to bring about "real, true impact" on police brutality being put on NFL players...and NOT on people in our government whose actual job it is to protect its citizens? They are doing what they can by using their voices in the most impactful way they can. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 8, 2018 14:31:00 GMT
But that's just it; you ARE stirring the pot. This thread is clearly not for someone who is "not a Trump supporter" I'll see myself out. It's really no different here than in real life. I really don't belong anywhere. And just to let you know, I posted on this thread the other day inviting conservatives to my thread. None of them wanted to post on an open thread. So I apologize for bringing my topic over here. |
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Post by #notLauren on Jun 8, 2018 14:34:27 GMT
But that's just it; you ARE stirring the pot. This thread is clearly not for someone who is "not a Trump supporter" I'll see myself out. It's really no different here than in real life. I really don't belong anywhere. And just to let you know, I posted on this thread the other day inviting conservatives to my thread. None of them wanted to post on an open thread. So I apologize for bringing my topic over here. I’m sorry you’re Leaving. As another poster said you’re respectful and you tried to discuss issues without interrogating authors or demeaning anyone |
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Post by peatlejuice on Jun 8, 2018 14:44:18 GMT
(CNN)President Donald Trump says he wants to meet with NFL players and athletes who kneel during the National Anthem so they can recommend people they think should be pardoned because they were treated unfairly by the justice system. "I'm going to ask them to recommend to me people who were unfairly treated," Trump said at the White House Friday. The President said during the wide-ranging gaggle that he would consider pardoning or commuting the sentences of those recommended. He also floated a pardon for posthumous boxing great Muhammad Ali. Certainly sounds like he's open to addressing some of their concerns. I wonder if any of them will take him up on his offer. You bring a Trump topic to this thread, immediately after Scrubologist and #notLauren got on jeremyswife and julee's asses about discussing Trump and not conservative ideas, but they don't get on your case for it? The irony is strong on this thread. Also, I hope he is legitimate in his claims to investigate and pardon those who are truly wrongfully convicted. That's certainly not an area in which I've felt our previous president's have taken an interest. |
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Post by mom26 on Jun 8, 2018 14:53:55 GMT
And some are choosing to continue kneeling and squawking when they could actually DO something to address police brutality and be involved in the process that can have a real, true impact. Being involved in the process? What process? This is a a gesture to make him look like he is doing something, nothing more. This will impact a handful of people, who have already been violated, not address the real issue of police brutality to make real changes for the future. Why is the onus to bring about "real, true impact" on police brutality being put on NFL players...and NOT on people in our government whose actual job it is to protect its citizens? They are doing what they can by using their voices in the most impactful way they can. Okay, so they've used their voices and have everyone's attention. Now what? The 'process' has to start somewhere, and if you say it's the government's job, then the president inviting them to bring specific cases/people to his attention seems like not a bad place to start. I hope it's not your position that 'if they can't 100% fix the problem (and bring back the dead) in one motion, then any step at all in that direction is pointless'. That's extremely shortsighted. |
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Post by snowsilver on Jun 8, 2018 15:01:24 GMT
I may be in the minority here, but I absolutely do not mind liberals coming here to discuss. Jeremysgirl, please don't leave (at least on my part). There ARE liberals who are perfectly willing to have a discussion without baiting or having to refer to Trump as the Spawn of Satan. In my opinion, we'll never solve anything if we can't discuss issues.
Where the problem arises is when they come here simply to inform us they hate every molecule of Trump's body. We KNOW that! It is very, very clear on all the other threads. That simply isn't helpful in any scenario. Might make them feel superior or something, but it solves nothing. I agree, that I as a conservative, want a respectful kind of thread where we can discuss issues dear to us without being bashed. But if a liberal comes here and takes part in the discussion without a "oh you are so wrong" attitude, then I warmly welcome them. I feel bad when I see us suggesting that NONE of them are welcome. That's not my own feeling. Come on in, I say. But could we leave the discussion of Trump's appearance outside the door (I have no interest in whether or not his hands are tiny or not, etc.). Can't we just discuss the pros and cons of issues and actually LISTEN to each other. Sigh. Probably hoping for Nirvana here. Probably can't happen.
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Some days I talk to her on the phone, and she can't even get a sentence out straight. I'm scared she's going to forget she already took them, and--well, you know. 
