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Post by bazinga on Jul 18, 2018 0:16:47 GMT
Yes, it is dead. It doesn't do any good to comment on anything here anymore if you are a conservative. I've found a nicer, kinder, place to discuss the matters that are important to conservatives without all the vitriol and hate that takes place here. Can you please PM me where you are? I miss everyone Me too, please.
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Post by cycworker on Jul 18, 2018 1:09:55 GMT
I think this thread has been dead for a while. It used to be a fun place to visit and chat, but many of us gave it up. And no I'm not a republican, I just enjoyed chatting with them Yes, it is dead. It doesn't do any good to comment on anything here anymore if you are a conservative. I've found a nicer, kinder, place to discuss the matters that are important to conservatives without all the vitriol and hate that takes place here. Nobody here has any issue with conservatives per se. We have an issue with conservatives being willing to ignore the fact that your President is a traitor & and a racist white supremacist to get policies they want. You could still have gotten the policies you wanted if you'd chosen a Republican candidate other than Trump. Again - it's not about conservatives or conservative values or conservative means of achieving goals. Those are all worthy of debate. Trump's behaviour isn't. He's deplorable & unfit for office & everyone should be able & willing to admit it.
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Post by peatlejuice on Jul 18, 2018 1:14:02 GMT
You have to vote for people who'll support impeachment. Even if that were to happen, how do you propose we hold their feet to the fire? How do you hold them accountable on any other issue of importance? Call, write, make your voice heard, and if they still ignore, vote to replace with someone of similar values who doesn't ignore.
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Post by pinkmochas on Jul 18, 2018 1:22:24 GMT
Can you please PM me where you are? I miss everyone Me too, please. I'd love a pm of a kinder place to chat
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Post by mom26 on Jul 18, 2018 1:53:52 GMT
I'd love a pm of a kinder place to chat So would I.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 18, 2018 1:58:07 GMT
Yes, it is dead. It doesn't do any good to comment on anything here anymore if you are a conservative. I've found a nicer, kinder, place to discuss the matters that are important to conservatives without all the vitriol and hate that takes place here. Nobody here has any issue with conservatives per se. We have an issue with conservatives being willing to ignore the fact that your President is a traitor & and a racist white supremacist to get policies they want. You could still have gotten the policies you wanted if you'd chosen a Republican candidate other than Trump. Again - it's not about conservatives or conservative values or conservative means of achieving goals. Those are all worthy of debate. Trump's behaviour isn't. He's deplorable & unfit for office & everyone should be able & willing to admit it. Well said. The fact that they need a “safer” place to talk tells me that support all of those things that the rest of us feel are deplorable. Because if they needed a place to denounce that, they could do it here and get positive reactions from many of us.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 18, 2018 2:48:01 GMT
The fact that they need a “safer” place to talk tells me that support all of those things that the rest of us feel are deplorable. Because if they needed a place to denounce that, they could do it here and get positive reactions from many of us. The reactions from the left are selectively extreme. I'm going to really blow your minds here and link to something you don't hear on every other channel.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 18, 2018 3:49:17 GMT
leftturnonly, let me first preface this by saying I think Mark Levin is the best mind the conservatives have to offer. Back 100 years ago when I commuted Levin's show was on during my hour long commute home each night and I found him the most compelling commentator on the conservative side. Your clip adds a bit of levity. Which I was seeking. My feelings are still that I think Trump did the wrong thing. I absolutely don't feel like it was right...at all...to do a press conference with Putin and disparage our doj and fbi. That was wrong, wrong, wrong. The emails and the server argument was absolutely pandering to his base. And he should have shut up about that. When I review in my head what I would have done in his place is that I most likely wouldn't have taken any questions from the media at all so he could have complete control over the situation. I also probably would have approached Russia and Putin with hesitancy. In other words, I would have played both sides. I would have kept my mouth shut on our domestic affairs. And that's where I think he went wrong. No matter what Levin says. I probably would have played nice with Putin in the spotlight because I would have wanted to finesse the situation. I still think Trump's performance smacks of whiny baby. And he had the opportunity to play politics with Putin. He dropped the ball when he threw our agencies to the wolves. And I think if he had been playing politics, he wouldn't have tried to put the spin on it that he did today. He isn't a politician. He doesn't understand how to behave with the media. And he's fueling divide. I think this was an opportunity squandered. I think he fucked up. And I think he would have done far better to have Levin act as a consult to him before acting. Because Levin actually has some merit to his argument. Trump stomped on it. He manages to ruin any good. He's like an elephant in a China shop. I'm not sure he means to do it but it is like he has no self control. He seems so led by ego. It makes him hard to defend. JMHO
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Post by LiLi on Jul 18, 2018 3:55:45 GMT
He's like an elephant in a China shop. A horse in a hospital
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 4:57:32 GMT
To all the ladies that have contacted about my kinder place to converse: Thank you for contacting me to begin with, second, it's a group of ladies that I graduated with back in 1964. We have been together in an email group since the beginning of the internet. We now live in all corners of the USA, and most of us are conservative. Our liberal friends, however, are very easy to talk to, and don't get bent out of shape when conservatives state their opinions about things, and the same with the conservatives when the more liberal members state their opinion. I am very thankful for this wonderful group. We all started out as friends, and we've remained friends for such a long time. Politics will not come between us. We've lived through many democratic presidencies, and many republican presidencies all of us believe the USA will still be here in good condition when this presidency is finished.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 6:57:50 GMT
Sigh. No, it doesn’t bother me. It’s funny. Because the thread is called “ReConTarian Sandbox.” And a sandbox is where kids play. And sometimes, when kids get mad, they leave the sandbox, take their toys, and go play somewhere else. And you said you went somewhere kinder, and you weren’t going to participate in this sandbox anymore. Like kids do, when they don’t like how the play date is going. Get it? It’s like how it would be funny if someone said they were “stewing” over what to cook that night in the What’s For Dinner thread. And this is exactly why I didn’t participate here. Even when I post something innocent, that I found amusing (not in a derisive way, just in a made-me-giggle way), people get offended. Sorry, all. I really do think it's funny, just because of the thread name. Not trying to be a jerk. It might be funny if the name didn't come about because those on the Left told conservatives to "get out of their threadS and go play in their own sandbox". It's hard to feel the sympathy you're begging for here when your buddies trash people for having differing opinions or providing facts they don't like and you stay silent for that.
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Post by gar on Jul 18, 2018 12:01:20 GMT
Sigh. No, it doesn’t bother me. It’s funny. Because the thread is called “ReConTarian Sandbox.” And a sandbox is where kids play. And sometimes, when kids get mad, they leave the sandbox, take their toys, and go play somewhere else. And you said you went somewhere kinder, and you weren’t going to participate in this sandbox anymore. Like kids do, when they don’t like how the play date is going. Get it? It’s like how it would be funny if someone said they were “stewing” over what to cook that night in the What’s For Dinner thread. And this is exactly why I didn’t participate here. Even when I post something innocent, that I found amusing (not in a derisive way, just in a made-me-giggle way), people get offended. Sorry, all. I really do think it's funny, just because of the thread name. Not trying to be a jerk. It might be funny if the name didn't come about because those on the Left told conservatives to "get out of their threadS and go play in their own sandbox". It's hard to feel the sympathy you're begging for here when your buddies trash people for having differing opinions or providing facts they don't like and you stay silent for that. Ye gods - are you ever going to get tired of this one man battle to...well whatever it is you're trying to do?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 18, 2018 12:08:18 GMT
Sigh. No, it doesn’t bother me. It’s funny. Because the thread is called “ReConTarian Sandbox.” And a sandbox is where kids play. And sometimes, when kids get mad, they leave the sandbox, take their toys, and go play somewhere else. And you said you went somewhere kinder, and you weren’t going to participate in this sandbox anymore. Like kids do, when they don’t like how the play date is going. Get it? It’s like how it would be funny if someone said they were “stewing” over what to cook that night in the What’s For Dinner thread. And this is exactly why I didn’t participate here. Even when I post something innocent, that I found amusing (not in a derisive way, just in a made-me-giggle way), people get offended. Sorry, all. I really do think it's funny, just because of the thread name. Not trying to be a jerk. It might be funny if the name didn't come about because those on the Left told conservatives to "get out of their threadS and go play in their own sandbox". It's hard to feel the sympathy you're begging for here when your buddies trash people for having differing opinions or providing facts they don't like and you stay silent for that. Your buddies have said it too, done the same so you can stop with the victim bullcrap and thinking that your “side” isn’t doing the same damn thing. This thread was started asking for conservative only voices. As a whole. What a whole 2 people asked “don’t you have your own sandbox to play in” and one other said “get off” the open thread (you know the threads where liberals aren’t setting up rules as to who can post and who cannot). Your “side” does it just as much if not more by evidence of this thread, just using different words. (And I know gia will spend hours sifting through every single post on this forum to come back and show us quote after quote after quote how many times sandbox was mentioned. Because you are. You and every single other conservative have either attacked, poked fun, dismissed, diminished, silenced, called us crazy, said we were ridiculous, told us we were frothing, over reacting, hysterical, and a whole other plethora of words to make fun of any of our concerns and fears with this administration. Never do you ask why or care what our fears are—you just post “Obamacare did it too” “Hilary bad..emails...Benghazi” and take out over the top assaults on us liberal peas. You (General) used this thread as a means to denounce us liberal peas. A good portion of your sandbox was dedicated to harping about the so called hysterics of the liberals. (And to that—HELL YES, I’m fucking pissed that this administration is damaging so many things that matter and hurt so many people) Who gives a fuck if we post every g-damned day about what the dickhead in the white house says and does? IT’S CURRENT EVENTS. He DOES and SAYS what we’re discussing. Just because you don’t want to speak up about his disregard for a large majority of the people does not mean that we cannot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 13:21:17 GMT
Even if that were to happen, how do you propose we hold their feet to the fire? How do you hold them accountable on any other issue of importance? Call, write, make your voice heard, and if they still ignore, vote to replace with someone of similar values who doesn't ignore. American politics is driven by money. Politicians will say anything to get elected. Then they listen to their donors. There is no accountability. In NYS we have massive corruption at the highest level. But I'll wager Cuomo gets re-elected because of special interest and the unions. I vote every time, but my vote does not matter. The sheep will vote en masse for any democrat. There's hope with Cynthia Nixon, but she doesn't have the resources and is frankly too liberal for my taste. But I do not feel she is the poster child of corruption like Cuomo is.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 18, 2018 13:42:51 GMT
Sigh. No, it doesn’t bother me. It’s funny. Because the thread is called “ReConTarian Sandbox.” And a sandbox is where kids play. And sometimes, when kids get mad, they leave the sandbox, take their toys, and go play somewhere else. And you said you went somewhere kinder, and you weren’t going to participate in this sandbox anymore. Like kids do, when they don’t like how the play date is going. Get it? It’s like how it would be funny if someone said they were “stewing” over what to cook that night in the What’s For Dinner thread. And this is exactly why I didn’t participate here. Even when I post something innocent, that I found amusing (not in a derisive way, just in a made-me-giggle way), people get offended. Sorry, all. I really do think it's funny, just because of the thread name. Not trying to be a jerk. It might be funny if the name didn't come about because those on the Left told conservatives to "get out of their threadS and go play in their own sandbox". It's hard to feel the sympathy you're begging for here when your buddies trash people for having differing opinions or providing facts they don't like and you stay silent for that. lighten up Frances
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Post by pinklady on Jul 18, 2018 13:42:59 GMT
NSBR...it ain’t for pussies.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 18, 2018 13:48:39 GMT
How do you hold them accountable on any other issue of importance? Call, write, make your voice heard, and if they still ignore, vote to replace with someone of similar values who doesn't ignore. American politics is driven by money. Politicians will say anything to get elected. Then they listen to their donors. There is no accountability. In NYS we have massive corruption at the highest level. But I'll wager Cuomo gets re-elected because of special interest and the unions. I vote every time, but my vote does not matter. The sheep will vote en masse for any democrat. There's hope with Cynthia Nixon, but she doesn't have the resources and is frankly too liberal for my taste. But I do not feel she is the poster child of corruption like Cuomo is. I agree everything is driven by the money. But to say 'The sheep will vote en masse for any democrat". is a problem for me. Why are democrats sheep but the republicans who vote en mass for any republican aren't? More like EVERYONE are sheep.
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Post by thundergal on Jul 18, 2018 14:08:58 GMT
Why are democrats sheep but the republicans who vote en mass for any republican aren't? <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.0400000000000063" style="position: absolute; width: 22.660000000000082px; height: 3.0400000000000063px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_38503343" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.0400000000000063" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 3.04px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_91827051" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.0400000000000063" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 3.04px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 92px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_48578404" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.0400000000000063" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 3.04px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: 92px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_5533534" scrolling="no"></iframe> 'Cause we are stoopid and they are smart. (Gosh, this is so tiring.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:09:22 GMT
American politics is driven by money. Politicians will say anything to get elected. Then they listen to their donors. There is no accountability. In NYS we have massive corruption at the highest level. But I'll wager Cuomo gets re-elected because of special interest and the unions. I vote every time, but my vote does not matter. The sheep will vote en masse for any democrat. There's hope with Cynthia Nixon, but she doesn't have the resources and is frankly too liberal for my taste. But I do not feel she is the poster child of corruption like Cuomo is. I agree everything is driven by the money. But to say 'The sheep will vote en masse for any democrat". is a problem for me. Why are democrats sheep but the republicans who vote en mass for any republican aren't? More like EVERYONE are sheep. Personally, I'm a republican, and did not vote for Trump, so in my case in particular, I wasn't a sheep. I have plenty of conservative friends that also didn't vote for him.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 18, 2018 14:36:30 GMT
It might be funny if the name didn't come about because those on the Left told conservatives to "get out of their threadS and go play in their own sandbox". It's hard to feel the sympathy you're begging for here when your buddies trash people for having differing opinions or providing facts they don't like and you stay silent for that. lighten up FrancesLove that movie! RIP Harold Ramis.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 18, 2018 14:37:05 GMT
There are sheep on both sides. Many of those single issue voters that can't even look at the big picture. Just look at how abortion drives votes, on both sides.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:40:42 GMT
Sorry if I offended. In my experience, including running for office as an Independent, the dems in NYS come out and vote for union endorsed candidates. Now NYSUT had broken away from Cuomo in the past but because of issues with the Working Families Party, the unions are back supporting Cuomo. With the highest union membership in the country, NYS dem voters typically vote for whom the unions support. Seriously, watching the polls and talking to voters after local elections - ESPECIALLY school board elections which are supposed to be non-partisan - many voters fall in lockstep with whomever the union supports. See our most recent corrupt politician, Marc Panepinto. Rather former politician. Despite being convicted of election law violations (forging signatures) and fraud in the past, this dude won an election for senator...declined to run again when he got busted trying to seduce a staffer.
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Post by inkedup on Jul 18, 2018 14:47:29 GMT
Sigh. No, it doesn’t bother me. It’s funny. Because the thread is called “ReConTarian Sandbox.” And a sandbox is where kids play. And sometimes, when kids get mad, they leave the sandbox, take their toys, and go play somewhere else. And you said you went somewhere kinder, and you weren’t going to participate in this sandbox anymore. Like kids do, when they don’t like how the play date is going. Get it? It’s like how it would be funny if someone said they were “stewing” over what to cook that night in the What’s For Dinner thread. And this is exactly why I didn’t participate here. Even when I post something innocent, that I found amusing (not in a derisive way, just in a made-me-giggle way), people get offended. Sorry, all. I really do think it's funny, just because of the thread name. Not trying to be a jerk. It might be funny if the name didn't come about because those on the Left told conservatives to "get out of their threadS and go play in their own sandbox". It's hard to feel the sympathy you're begging for here when your buddies trash people for having differing opinions or providing facts they don't like and you stay silent for that. Is now a good time to mention your buddy devildog, or should I call her samiam? She was better at trashing and cowardice than kindness. Better be sure conservatives are clean before you play victim and cry that liberals got you dirty. You hypocritical frother.
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Post by Just T on Jul 18, 2018 14:49:10 GMT
There are sheep on both sides. Many of those single issue voters that can't even look at the big picture. Just look at how abortion drives votes, on both sides. You took the words right out of my mouth! I have mostly voted Republican, but most definitely NOT because of the abortion issue. I'm a weirdo who is conservative leaning, yet I am pro-choice. However, I know so many people who openly say they only vote Republican because they are pro-life and that is the only, most important issue, for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:51:11 GMT
There are sheep on both sides. Many of those single issue voters that can't even look at the big picture. Just look at how abortion drives votes, on both sides. Yes, I believe that. Some people actually voted for Hillary and some actually voted for Trump. ugh on both.
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Post by missmiss on Jul 18, 2018 15:28:05 GMT
There are sheep on both sides. Many of those single issue voters that can't even look at the big picture. Just look at how abortion drives votes, on both sides. You took the words right out of my mouth! I have mostly voted Republican, but most definitely NOT because of the abortion issue. I'm a weirdo who is conservative leaning, yet I am pro-choice. However, I know so many people who openly say they only vote Republican because they are pro-life and that is the only, most important issue, for them. Just T I am very interested on how high you rate your pro-choice leaning? Voting Republican I feel goes against pro-choice. When I read your statement, I interpret it as that you are pro-choice yet your conservative leaning rates higher than being pro-choice. Me personally I vote for a candidate on their social issues. Against LGBTQ Equality and marriage- Not voting for you Pro-Life - Not voting for you Spew Racist crap - Not voting for you Want to defund Social Programs - Not voting for you So I am curious. How do the people you vote for view pro-choice/pro-life debate since you have voted mostly Republican.
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Post by Just T on Jul 18, 2018 15:40:00 GMT
You took the words right out of my mouth! I have mostly voted Republican, but most definitely NOT because of the abortion issue. I'm a weirdo who is conservative leaning, yet I am pro-choice. However, I know so many people who openly say they only vote Republican because they are pro-life and that is the only, most important issue, for them. Just T I am very interested on how high you rate your pro-choice leaning? Voting Republican I feel goes against pro-choice. When I read your statement, I interpret it as that you are pro-choice yet your conservative leaning rates higher than being pro-choice. Me personally I vote for a candidate on their social issues. Against LGBTQ Equality and marriage- Not voting for you Pro-Life - Not voting for you Spew Racist crap - Not voting for you Want to defund Social Programs - Not voting for you So I am curious. How do the people you vote for view pro-choice/pro-life debate since you have voted mostly Republican. It's hard to explain, but I will try. Complicating things, I was also raised Catholic. LOL For me personally I am pro life. If one of my children were to experience an unwanted pregnancy, I would hope and pray they would not have an abortion. I will keep my opinions to myself and be as supportive as I can if that is a choice they make. But I won't like it. LOL That said, I do not think it should be illegal. I do not want to go back to the days before Roe vs. Wade. It will not stop abortion. Honestly, I do not think that it will be overturned, even if Trump is able to pack the SC with conservative judges. I may be wrong about that, but I hope not. So, I guess for me, there are other more important issues to vote based on other than abortion. I hope that answers your question. I know, I'm a puzzle. LOL I honestly don't know where I fit politically in good times, and right now, I am even more confused.
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Post by missmiss on Jul 18, 2018 16:02:02 GMT
Just T I am very interested on how high you rate your pro-choice leaning? Voting Republican I feel goes against pro-choice. When I read your statement, I interpret it as that you are pro-choice yet your conservative leaning rates higher than being pro-choice. Me personally I vote for a candidate on their social issues. Against LGBTQ Equality and marriage- Not voting for you Pro-Life - Not voting for you Spew Racist crap - Not voting for you Want to defund Social Programs - Not voting for you So I am curious. How do the people you vote for view pro-choice/pro-life debate since you have voted mostly Republican. It's hard to explain, but I will try. Complicating things, I was also raised Catholic. LOL For me personally I am pro life. If one of my children were to experience an unwanted pregnancy, I would hope and pray they would not have an abortion. I will keep my opinions to myself and be as supportive as I can if that is a choice they make. But I won't like it. LOL That said, I do not think it should be illegal. I do not want to go back to the days before Roe vs. Wade. It will not stop abortion. Honestly, I do not think that it will be overturned, even if Trump is able to pack the SC with conservative judges. I may be wrong about that, but I hope not. So, I guess for me, there are other more important issues to vote based on other than abortion. I hope that answers your question. I know, I'm a puzzle. LOL I honestly don't know where I fit politically in good times, and right now, I am even more confused. It does answer my question. Thanks for the response! It just sucks because there are SOME (not a lot) of topics on the right that I like. But with some issues though that could affect my family I just can't seem to pull the trigger and vote for anyone on the right and trust them in their voting on social issues. I hope it doesn't get overturned. That would be a horrible time for our country and a horrible time for the many women who need to make that decision. So what are the major three issues you vote for?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 18, 2018 16:05:14 GMT
So I am curious. How do the people you vote for view pro-choice/pro-life debate since you have voted mostly Republican. I agree with the way Just T put it. I share her thoughts on abortion. If it came right down to me perceiving there was a threat, my opinion (and my vote) might change. But I feel like it is settled law.
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Post by missmiss on Jul 18, 2018 16:24:26 GMT
So I am curious. How do the people you vote for view pro-choice/pro-life debate since you have voted mostly Republican. I agree with the way Just T put it. I share her thoughts on abortion. If it came right down to me perceiving there was a threat, my opinion (and my vote) might change. But I feel like it is settled law. I understand what you are saying but things can change. It has happened in our Supreme Court history. The second one scares me: This means that overturning a Supreme Court decision is very difficult. There are two ways it can happen: - States can amend the Constitution itself. This requires approval by three-quarters of the state legislatures -- no easy feat. However, it has happened several times. - The Supreme Court can overrule itself. This happens when a different case involving the same constitutional issues as an earlier case is reviewed by the court and seen in a new light, typically because of changing social and political situations. The longer the amount of time between the cases, the more likely this is to occur (partly due to stare decisis). All it takes is for a court case to come through with different judges and BAM changed. It isn't easy to do, but we've compiled a list of 10 Supreme Court cases that were later overturned. Many of them left a permanent mark on American history. 1. Lochner v. New York (1905) and Adkins v. Children's Hospital (1923) 2. Chisholm v. Georgia (1793) 3. Adler v. Board of Education (1952) 4. Bowers v. Hardwick (1986) 5. Pace v. Alabama (1883) 6. Austin v. Michigan State Chamber of Commerce (1990) 7. Oregon v. Mitchell (1970) 8. Wolf v. Colorado (1949) 9. Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) 10. Plessy v. Ferguson (1896) To me I feel you are taking a gamble on this issue. There is always a chance it can be overturned. All it takes is certain judges on the Supreme Court and a case to come to them. money.howstuffworks.com/10-overturned-supreme-court-cases10.htmThe above 10 are just a view of the many cases listed below: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_overruled_United_States_Supreme_Court_decisionsSo this tells me you are willing to gamble on this issue and it isn't as high on your priority list as other issues. That is my take away from this.
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