ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 10, 2018 20:24:40 GMT
i'm so tired of reading this - from any generation
but currently it's the guys and gals in their 70s that are on my last nerve
someone told a nice story about my husband's uncle - he just passed away
all the comments were 'they sure don't make them like that anymore' - 'men just aren't the same'
and it really struck a nerve
YES THERE ARE MEN LIKE THAT
they were raised by men that you are talking about
and they were raised by shitbums (and chose to be better)
not one generation takes the fucking cake
i corrected an old lady on facebook -and i don't regret it - not one little bit -
this is just a vent but as always i welcome all opinions and comments
gina
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Post by craftykitten on Jul 10, 2018 20:40:44 GMT
Yep.
"We didn't fight a war for this..."
Actually, YOU probably didn't fight any war. That was the generation before you. Don't put words in their mouths.
Not everyone, I try not to generalise. But that's the one that gripes me the most.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 10, 2018 20:43:14 GMT
Agreed. I'm often around a 66 year old relative and every comment out of his mouth seems to just be talking crap about younger generations. So annoying.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 10, 2018 21:06:55 GMT
I agree, I have never thought any one generation was better than another...just that they had some differences.
I do think that each generation has had to deal with different types of societal and financial issues - but there are good, bad, innovative, motivated, etc, etc, etc in every generation. The world has change and so has how we live. It is just a fact. I would be much more afraid and concerned if each generation was the same and that there wasn't change.
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Post by bigbundt on Jul 10, 2018 21:13:00 GMT
I would have taken that comment as a non-answer answer. One meant to offer comfort to the grieving but is really just a saying, not commentary on today's men. I'm on another message board where boomers and millennials are ALWAYS having a go at one another, taking shots at how crappy the other generation is. Gen Xers just sit back and watch. It is almost formulaic at this point. 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 21:20:35 GMT
My husband’s 90 y/I father is a draft dodger. His is not the one of the greatest generation. He did work hard but did a lot of underhanded stuff that I don’t find funny.
My father was a liar and a snake. He raised snake son. They believe that they deserve the world at their feet. They had friends that believe the same way.
I could go on....
There are outstanding people in every generation and they are the ones that make that generation great.
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Post by tara on Jul 10, 2018 21:47:34 GMT
According to my 25 year old daughter my generation (80’s) has the best music. We were head banging in the car to Dokken the other day. 
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Post by Citygirl on Jul 10, 2018 22:15:23 GMT
Yes, I agree. I'm also tired of seeing meme's or posts on Facebook from people that don't know how to use a debit card, or turn the flash off on their camera phone saying that the younger people need to learn "life skills" like how to hull a strawberry  or change a tire. Guess what.....my new car didn't even come with a spare tire (only an air inflation kit) and even if it did I would still call AAA lol. Every generation thinks they are the greatest....I could go on forever about this topic.
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 10, 2018 22:21:52 GMT
Clap.clap.clap.
Who raised that lazy entitled generation anyway?!
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basketdiva
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 10, 2018 22:40:25 GMT
Agreed. I'm often around a 66 year old relative and every comment out of his mouth seems to just be talking crap about younger generations. So annoying. Every generation has people that do this.
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Post by MichyM on Jul 10, 2018 22:48:48 GMT
Bottom line. That's BS.
Just this morning I was trying to describe a friend's boyfriend to another friend who doesn't know either of them. I realized that I like this guy so much because the way he lives his life reminds me so much of my (long deceased) grandfather. They DO make 'em "like that"...still.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 10, 2018 22:54:15 GMT
Oh I read comments (and why do I???) about how 'we were the best generation' blah blah blah... I feel like I just want to go in a slap them and say "are you 90 years old? Get over it"..
My generation was awesome but certainly not the best.. we were into material things..hahaha.. get it?? Living in a material world and I am a material girl... each generation has it's good and then has it's bad...
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 11, 2018 0:30:16 GMT
I had a friend post something about how stupid kids were to eat Tide Pods. First of all, a few kids did it for a dare and then I reminded him of all the stupid stuff he did as a kid that were just as dangerous. People just don't think.
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Jul 11, 2018 0:31:17 GMT
I think some people say this because they are looking at things through the eyes of nostalgia. I noticed my mom doing this and remember my grandmother and great-aunt doing the same.
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Post by mom26 on Jul 11, 2018 0:56:17 GMT
I know quite a lot of men from across the generational spectrum and they are all mostly awesome. However, with my youngest sons (21 & 23), they are finding themselves confused with all the new rules of what men can and cannot do.
Opening a door for a woman or paying for a date is now seen as rude and disrespectful. I don't get it, but that's what I'm told.
Makes me sad, because I view such things as basic manners and hate, hate, hate the emasculation of men that I see so much of these days.
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 11, 2018 1:11:03 GMT
I know quite a lot of men from across the generational spectrum and they are all mostly awesome. However, with my youngest sons (21 & 23), they are finding themselves confused with all the new rules of what men can and cannot do. Opening a door for a woman or paying for a date is now seen as rude and disrespectful. I don't get it, but that's what I'm told. Makes me sad, because I view such things as basic manners and hate, hate, hate the emasculation of men that I see so much of these days. Who the hell made that rule!? Did their dates actually get upset because your sons opened a door? Or is this one of those generalizations that started because of some story people keep spreading? I am a millennial. I do not know any woman who would get offended by someone opening a door. The only "new" rule is don't rape. But it's not new; just too many idiots felt there was some leeway if their date was drunk in past generations.
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Post by rickmer on Jul 11, 2018 1:18:48 GMT
The only "new" rule is don't rape. But it's not new; just too many idiots felt there was some leeway if their date was drunk in past generations. and plenty of their male peers would thought *they* were assholes/pigs/monsters back then too. good people have no age bracket. plenty "back then" and, plenty now and plenty in between. i have a friend (49) that walks on the side of the road when you walk with him. he was raised that men always did that. he is two years old than me... no boy/man has *ever* done that in my life. i told my mother who said "that is a very old-fashioned idea... but still very charming".
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 11, 2018 1:20:19 GMT
All I know is past generations of women tell me women were pushed around and it was accepted, alcoholism was the norm, homosexuals had to stay hidden, racism was out in the open, perverts ran rampant, and abuse and rape was called "boys being boys" or "hazing."
I happen to like my generation.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 11, 2018 1:37:25 GMT
I know quite a lot of men from across the generational spectrum and they are all mostly awesome. However, with my youngest sons (21 & 23), they are finding themselves confused with all the new rules of what men can and cannot do. Opening a door for a woman or paying for a date is now seen as rude and disrespectful. I don't get it, but that's what I'm told. Makes me sad, because I view such things as basic manners and hate, hate, hate the emasculation of men that I see so much of these days. Who the hell made that rule!? Did their dates actually get upset because your sons opened a door? Or is this one of those generalizations that started because of some story people keep spreading? I am a millennial. I do not know any woman who would get offended by someone opening a door. The only "new" rule is don't rape. But it's not new; just too many idiots felt there was some leeway if their date was drunk in past generations. As I was leaving the convenience store today, there were 2 men on the outside. Man 1 opens the door. Man 2 and I both make to go through the door at the same time, but stop when we see each other. Man 2 steps back, opens the other door and I step through the double doors feeling like a queen. I nodded regally ( in my imagination) and said, “thank you, gentlemen.”
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Post by mom26 on Jul 11, 2018 1:44:12 GMT
I know quite a lot of men from across the generational spectrum and they are all mostly awesome. However, with my youngest sons (21 & 23), they are finding themselves confused with all the new rules of what men can and cannot do. Opening a door for a woman or paying for a date is now seen as rude and disrespectful. I don't get it, but that's what I'm told. Makes me sad, because I view such things as basic manners and hate, hate, hate the emasculation of men that I see so much of these days. Who the hell made that rule!? Did their dates actually get upset because your sons opened a door? Or is this one of those generalizations that started because of some story people keep spreading? I am a millennial. I do not know any woman who would get offended by someone opening a door. The only "new" rule is don't rape. But it's not new; just too many idiots felt there was some leeway if their date was drunk in past generations. I've no idea 'who' made that rule, but I do know it's been a discussion on this very board several times and there ARE women who take offense to such chivalrous acts. Somehow, somewhere my sons got that memo and are hard pressed to figure out what to do and what not to do. It makes me incredibly sad, because DH is a true gentleman and he taught his sons to be the same but for whatever reason, they've been led to believe that is not the way to be anymore.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 11, 2018 2:11:04 GMT
I think some people say this because they are looking at things through the eyes of nostalgia. I noticed my mom doing this and remember my grandmother and great-aunt doing the same. I often see my old students (20's to 30's) on FB talking about how much harder they had it than kids today. It really cracks me up. When they post a picture of something that I still have in my house and say something about "the younger generation won't have a clue what this is..." I chortle. We all see things much more clearly from our own perspective.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 11, 2018 2:47:15 GMT
My dad used to go on about all the problems with my generation (tail end of the Baby Boomers) until we pointed out that murders, drug addition, political scandals, etc., have been around long before our generation.
Each generation has their leaders & heroes, whether everyday people or world famous. We also all have our share of not so great jerks and assholes.
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Post by mom26 on Jul 11, 2018 2:49:27 GMT
The only "new" rule is don't rape. But it's not new; just too many idiots felt there was some leeway if their date was drunk in past generations. and plenty of their male peers would thought *they* were assholes/pigs/monsters back then too. good people have no age bracket. plenty "back then" and, plenty now and plenty in between. i have a friend (49) that walks on the side of the road when you walk with him. he was raised that men always did that. he is two years old than me... no boy/man has *ever* done that in my life. i told my mother who said "that is a very old-fashioned idea... but still very charming". DH does that with me and we both do/did it with our kids/grandchildren. It's not a bad thing to feel protective of those you love and care about. It befuddles me that people can take offense to that. I simply don't get it.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jul 11, 2018 19:48:03 GMT
Big pet peeve for me.
First, I don’t know why Internet Memes about the nostalgic past have to be negative about other generations. Can’t we journey through memory lane without disparaging millennials, genZ, generation X or whatever? It seems like every meme infers that younger people are wimps or clueless or uncouth.
Second, I am really sick of people dissing the younger generations. (I don’t like people blaming everything on baby boomers either).
No generation is free from poor behavior nor does any generation have a corner on being “the best.” Times change. If you think the youngest generations are horrible, you only have yourself to blame imo.
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Post by PLurker on Jul 11, 2018 19:56:46 GMT
Yep, yep and yep to most all of the above. My fave is when they are complaining things like "back in my day we didn't have cell phones and went outside and played not like this new lazy gen...blah, blah, blah." all the while demeaning the use of the current technology and generation(s) while texting from their phone or bitching on facebook. Get.off.my.lawn. and while you're at it facebook and your cell phone, too.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 11, 2018 20:17:33 GMT
This is what one of my 24 year friends from FB (re)posted last night. I cracked up. Yes, reading MapQuest directions was hard. And while I was giggling at her post, I realized that my old ass had printed them out not three years ago for a trip to Florida because I didn't trust my Maps app (new to it).
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 11, 2018 20:21:46 GMT
Yep, yep and yep to most all of the above. My fave is when they are complaining things like "back in my day we didn't have cell phones and went outside and played not like this new lazy gen...blah, blah, blah." all the while demeaning the use of the current technology and generation(s) while texting from their phone or bitching on facebook. Get.off.my.lawn. and while you're at it facebook and your cell phone, too. My kids were the kids on the block who had to play outside. They are now 22 and 24. I didn't do it because I didn't want them to use technology. They had some. I didn't want to strangle them. It was self preservation. Now I will complain about people texting and driving (all ages) and parenting while glued to a screen. That is just not going to end up well.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 11, 2018 20:37:11 GMT
though there are broad generalizations.. there are definitely different attitudes towards things in different generations. in the 1970's, in college class.. our professor of recreation said we all need to plan to work holidays and weekends and long hours.. true to her work experiences.. we all said BS.. if we value recreational time as a profession.. we need time off too and weren't going to work 80 hours a week.. and it is true.. we as a generation value our leisure time over other stuff..
yesterday, my dh (retired) asked his ortho specialist about his retirement.. the doc is working fewer hours and looking forward to complete retirement in a few years. dh asked about who would be taking over in his area of speciality. basically, the doc said he has been having a hard time finding any docs who want to take a post doc fellowship with him (at Stanford university).. cause his speciality is about complex cases--very difficult to deal with.. often taking years to find ending solutions, etc. the docs want to specialize in something easier and less messy and something more sure of success. not to say someone is not out there to do it.. but he is finding it very hard to find people to train.
so attitudes change.. sometimes for the better, sometimes not. there are hard working and moral people in every generation. the worst trend I see today is lack of value perceived in experts and in technical knowledge and training. no education seems to be held up as good. we need to do a better job of teaching kids to think critically and to read in depth.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 11, 2018 20:37:45 GMT
though there are broad generalizations.. there are definitely different attitudes towards things in different generations. in the 1970's, in college class.. our professor of recreation said we all need to plan to work holidays and weekends and long hours.. true to her work experiences.. we all said BS.. if we value recreational time as a profession.. we need time off too and weren't going to work 80 hours a week.. and it is true.. we as a generation value our leisure time over other stuff..
yesterday, my dh (retired) asked his ortho specialist about his retirement.. the doc is working fewer hours and looking forward to complete retirement in a few years. dh asked about who would be taking over in his area of speciality. basically, the doc said he has been having a hard time finding any docs who want to take a post doc fellowship with him (at Stanford university).. cause his speciality is about complex cases--very difficult to deal with.. often taking years to find ending solutions, etc. the docs want to specialize in something easier and less messy and something more sure of success. not to say someone is not out there to do it.. but he is finding it very hard to find people to train.
so attitudes change.. sometimes for the better, sometimes not. there are hard working and moral people in every generation. the worst trend I see today is lack of value perceived in experts and in technical knowledge and training. no education seems to be held up as good. we need to do a better job of teaching kids to think critically and to read in depth.
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Post by PLurker on Jul 11, 2018 20:38:20 GMT
Yep, yep and yep to most all of the above. My fave is when they are complaining things like "back in my day we didn't have cell phones and went outside and played not like this new lazy gen...blah, blah, blah." all the while demeaning the use of the current technology and generation(s) while texting from their phone or bitching on facebook. Get.off.my.lawn. and while you're at it facebook and your cell phone, too. My kids were the kids on the block who had to play outside. They are now 22 and 24. I didn't do it because I didn't want them to use technology. They had some. I didn't want to strangle them. It was self preservation. Now I will complain about people texting and driving (all ages) and parenting while glued to a screen. That is just not going to end up well. my kids didn't have a block (or really any neighbors either) but they tended to know when to go out and make themselves scarce, too. Go explore the woods or something. The self-preservation was a must for them and us, right?! even my nowX DH used to drive me crazy with "the kids never go play with their friends. When I was a kid I rode my bike everywhere/gone all day ..." We live in middle of no where. You had to import kids. The closest friends they had were prob a mile and a half away down a 55mph road that they weren't allowed to ride bikes on. hmmm...
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