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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Feb 26, 2019 17:39:48 GMT
I think we have the same LSS and got the same email. The picture made me twitchy and I just wanted to shout "NO, NO, NO"! Simple Pleasures? Yes, I am willing to forgive this transgression, but I had the same response. Well, I'm glad I didn't open their email! I actually shopped there when I lived in Colorado. I get their emails because I ordered a QuicKutz limited edition set from them quite some time ago when I couldn't find it anywhere else. |
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Post by bigelow on Feb 26, 2019 18:12:07 GMT
I went on to the My Sweet Petunia site. I could not find where there is a patent pending on the Cut Align.
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Post by riley on Feb 26, 2019 18:21:25 GMT
Right under where it says Description, it says Cut Align is patent pending.
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Post by gale w on Feb 26, 2019 19:05:51 GMT
The patent pending has been there for at least a few days-I looked a few days ago. I see it's $20 on her website.
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Post by bigelow on Feb 26, 2019 19:57:06 GMT
thanks
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Post by samantha25 on Feb 27, 2019 2:06:08 GMT
I don't think it's a far stretch to call it dangerous. Certainly not as safe as a metal ruler. One of my favourite professors always insisted that the most dangerous tool in the whole workshop - which included every kind of powered saw, torch, drill you could shake a stick at - was a hand-held blade. Responsible for more injuries in his classes than any other. People are naturally cautious around power tools, but they tend to disrespect the humble box cutter and forget about the hand holding their work, which is where accidents happen. He'd also have had a litter of kittens had anyone suggested using a PLASTIC ruler with a sharp metal knife. Always pay attention to your dummy hand, be ye cooking or crafting or doing home repair! That's the one that's *not* holding the tool, and the one that's going to get hurt more often than any other. Agreed! I sliced the edge of my pointer finger off using a metal edge with exacto knife. Back in the day, before big poster printing, we had to make our own poster presentations (science). I could not get the bleeding to stop, so walked across the street to the emergency room, bled for 3 hours.... doctors snickered at my error. |
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Post by Embri on Feb 27, 2019 8:29:27 GMT
Oh ouch. >_<; That's got to be painful. I've gotten a few very tiny nicks but nothing major so far, and I hope to keep it that way. Legitimately I think anyone who's trying to peddle a plastic ruler for use with a metal knife is doing their audience a grave disservice. It's all too easy for a blade to catch on a plastic edge and creep up and over the side into your fingers as you slice. I'd couldn't risk it; the 'NO NEVER USE PLASTIC RULERS' was a lesson learned early and often.
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Post by josie29 on Feb 27, 2019 11:35:59 GMT
Oh ouch. >_<; That's got to be painful. I've gotten a few very tiny nicks but nothing major so far, and I hope to keep it that way. Legitimately I think anyone who's trying to peddle a plastic ruler for use with a metal knife is doing their audience a grave disservice. It's all too easy for a blade to catch on a plastic edge and creep up and over the side into your fingers as you slice. I'd couldn't risk it; the 'NO NEVER USE PLASTIC RULERS' was a lesson learned early and often. Totally agree.  |
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 27, 2019 16:30:20 GMT
Last night I needed to cut up some plastic Dollar Store chopping mats. Whipped out my metal, cork bottomed ruler and laughed at how many times I would have had to gently press down without much pressure on these mats to get through on piece of plastic. Pretty sure it would not have worked. Plastic is slippery. I cut 30 last night and have 20 more to go today after I know the exact sizes I need.
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Post by artisticscrapper on Feb 28, 2019 1:29:59 GMT
I honestly wonder if MSP made the ruler flimsy by design. After all, once it gets nicked up and no longer works properly the fan girls will have to buy new ones. Planned obsolescence = more business. Look at all those cracked MISTIs back in the day.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 28, 2019 1:43:21 GMT
Oh my gosh, they look so similiar  I wonder if Dritz has a patent on their product though because if they don't, MSP will probably get one....sigh..... For the others who asked about price of the MSP ruler: where I live in Australia, it retails for $34 plus postage which makes it around $40. That's crazy expensive. And the rulers are in imperial measurements whereas Australia is metric so that part of the product is useless. And I have a centering rule already which cost me $3. I don’t know if the Dritz one is patented but it’s been around in various versions for quite some time, the one I have was my mother’s. No patent number on mine. BTW it has metric markings lol I was going to say this too, I have an ancient one down with my sewing stuff that I used for quilting several decades ago. It has multiple slots in it for cutting strips of various thicknesses. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 28, 2019 1:48:15 GMT
Cutting lightly multiple times is a good way to get a bad cut if that ruler shifts even a tiny bit. This was how we were taught to cut matboard, foam core board and other thicker materials a million years ago in art school.  But in my instructor’s defense they did tell us up front to invest in a good metal ruler with a non slip cork back. And we were also instructed to always use a brand new sharp blade, because more people cut themselves with a dull blade that has to be forced than a sharp one that glides through. |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 28, 2019 17:50:59 GMT
Oh my gosh, they look so similiar I wonder if Dritz has a patent on their product though because if they don't, MSP will probably get one....sigh..... For the others who asked about price of the MSP ruler: where I live in Australia, it retails for $34 plus postage which makes it around $40. That's crazy expensive. And the rulers are in imperial measurements whereas Australia is metric so that part of the product is useless. And I have a centering rule already which cost me $3. Can you really patent something that’s been around for 50 or do years just because your has more lines & you use it in a different craft? Seems kind of weird. Would Dritz have to stop making, improving selling theirs? What ever happened to the letter press can they still make theirs since it was out long before hers? |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 28, 2019 19:31:29 GMT
Also what about the fuse tool ruler/template? That has a lot of markings& a slot
Hmmmmm
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Post by josie29 on Mar 1, 2019 3:13:16 GMT
I don't know whether you can patent something that has been around for a long time but I sure would like to know. I read this on fortune.com which I thought was interesting. Of course, I am not versed in law or patents but part of me wonders if SU challenging the validity of the patent is because of this....
"Does my invention qualify for a patent? To do so, it needs to fit the following criteria:
It’s new. Or, in “patent speak,” it’s a novelty. That means the invention isn’t publicly known and hasn’t been previously disclosed in a public format, which includes pending patent applications, books, articles and YouTube videos, among other sources. Bottom line: if your invention already exists, you can’t patent it.
It’s useful. Your invention must serve a purpose or solve a problem.
It’s not obvious. Your invention must be sufficiently different from what has been used or described before, says Mindy Bickel, the associate commissioner for innovation development at the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). “This is the hardest determination a patent examiner has to make,” she says.
For example, changing the color of a chair from brown to red isn’t patentable because it’s a change anyone could make based on knowledge that already exists. To qualify, an invention needs to contain knowledge not obvious to the general public."
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Post by Embri on Mar 1, 2019 7:04:15 GMT
Makes you wonder how the MISTI got a patent, considering it fails most of those criteria. It's not new, it's pretty damn obvious (a hinged platform for stamping is used in many industries, including printing presses which are old as dirt). The only one you can argue is that it's useful, and because it's made from acrylic instead of polycarbonate, even that is limited!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 17:41:00 GMT
Makes you wonder how the MISTI got a patent, considering it fails most of those criteria. It's not new, it's pretty damn obvious (a hinged platform for stamping is used in many industries, including printing presses which are old as dirt). The only one you can argue is that it's useful, and because it's made from acrylic instead of polycarbonate, even that is limited! Or if someone was paid off. |
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Post by Embri on Mar 1, 2019 20:56:21 GMT
That's always a possibility I suppose, but I really hope not.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 1, 2019 23:06:25 GMT
Makes you wonder how the MISTI got a patent, considering it fails most of those criteria. It's not new, it's pretty damn obvious (a hinged platform for stamping is used in many industries, including printing presses which are old as dirt). The only one you can argue is that it's useful, and because it's made from acrylic instead of polycarbonate, even that is limited! I’ve been wondering this since the brew ha ha with Tim Holtz came up. The letterpress ( lifestyle crafts? WRMK? ) had been out and ‘public’ for years. You can google and see video demonstrations of it way before the Misti The only thing ‘novel’ about the Misti in my limited experience is the crappy, flimsy, loose hinges.( I don’t own one but use one at my stamp classes and using it is what convinced me that it was too flimsy for the price. ) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 7:43:38 GMT
I just do not know how she gets away with her constant copying. I am honestly thinking she has a mental illness now. I am not being snarky or mean. She copies, she steals and the she sues. She blames her customers. She does it over and over again. I think she's ill. Once again I am truly not being mean or snarky. I love my Coluzzle. My tag template is knicked and cut. I think the Coluzzle templates were well made at that time. If she made her new ruler like the Coluzzle when we have better materials to create products now I have no words. Remember this is the lady when the plates cracked on the Misti she blamed the customers. Imagine what she will do if there is a defect in her ruler. myboysnme Yes I do remember the June Taylor dancers. I don't remember them from the show because it was on before I was born. My Dad was a D-lister musician back in the day. Before anyone says that is rude to call somebody D-lister that is a thing and it's not an insult. I actually had to explain this before over here, lol. In the 1970's & early 1980's my Dad would have all these get together with a lot of the entertainers from back in the day. I was little then. I was really into Solid Gold. My Dad would introduce me to these beautiful ladies and he would tell me these were the original Solid Gold dancers, lol. That is my memory of the beautiful June Taylor dancers.  I know my Dad had a big crush on Marilyn though. This is so funny you mentioned them because my DH was talking about Jackie Gleason this week. I would never pay $20 for a plastic ruler. That is just one of those things where you need to stand back and wonder what is getting into you if your making a purchase like that if you are a paper crafter. |
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 2, 2019 21:13:03 GMT
The main difference that I see between the MISTI and the WRMK Letterpress is the magnet base on the MISTI for holding the cardstock in place. However, the letterpress did have guides for holding the paper. I could not see how they were attached, but not a huge difference.
In the patent application, MSP did reference the WRMK Letterpress when asked if there were any similar inventions, so it is obvious that she was aware of it at the very least. The main difference to me appears to be in whether a user attaches letterpress design plates or a rubber stamp. The letterpress debosses as well as inks, while a rubber stamp does not deboss, since it is made of a soft material, and does not use as much pressure (the letterpress is run through a Big Shot or similar roller die cutting/embossing machine.
A patent employee, without seeing how both the MISTI and the WRMK Letterpress are actually used, might make a judgment based solely on the written description. If the employee had seen both used side by side, though, I think the MISTI patent would never have been approved. It makes me wonder how much effort the employee used, since you can find short videos on the internet for each tool.
I have to admit that I have wondered if the patent employee was just lazy, or was paid under the table. I really hope her patent is overturned, not because I wish MSP ill (I don't),, but because of her hypocritical behavior in suing everyone for copying other products, when it at least looks like that is what she herself has done.
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Post by josie29 on Mar 3, 2019 1:00:50 GMT
The main difference that I see between the MISTI and the WRMK Letterpress is the magnet base on the MISTI for holding the cardstock in place. However, the letterpress did have guides for holding the paper. I could not see how they were attached, but not a huge difference. In the patent application, MSP did reference the WRMK Letterpress when asked if there were any similar inventions, so it is obvious that she was aware of it at the very least. The main difference to me appears to be in whether a user attaches letterpress design plates or a rubber stamp. The letterpress debosses as well as inks, while a rubber stamp does not deboss, since it is made of a soft material, and does not use as much pressure (the letterpress is run through a Big Shot or similar roller die cutting/embossing machine. A patent employee, without seeing how both the MISTI and the WRMK Letterpress are actually used, might make a judgment based solely on the written description. If the employee had seen both used side by side, though, I think the MISTI patent would never have been approved. It makes me wonder how much effort the employee used, since you can find short videos on the internet for each tool. I have to admit that I have wondered if the patent employee was just lazy, or was paid under the table. I really hope her patent is overturned, not because I wish MSP ill (I don't),, but because of her hypocritical behavior in suing everyone for copying other products, when it at least looks like that is what she herself has done. |
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Post by pizzaparty on Mar 18, 2024 19:44:23 GMT
I also read about the My Sweet Petunia/MISTI owner acting like a monster.....more than a few times and well beyond "protecting her patent" (I don't begrudge her protecting her patent). Craft Stash has a US site (https://www.craftstash.us/) and a UK site on EBAY. The UK site on EBAY is where you can now buy the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform----I just bought one from them, I'm in Georgia, USA. Here's their ebay store link: www.ebay.co.uk/str/craftstashukHere's the ITEM link for the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform (larger size): www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266417863914 |
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Post by artisticscrapper on Mar 19, 2024 2:46:54 GMT
I love my TH stamp platform. I have both the large and the small one. I use a piece of fun foam on the platform to give the stamp a bit of cushion. The images come out better. Also I don’t use the magnets since sometimes it keeps the top from being level and the image doesn’t completely stamp out. I use drafting tape to hold the paper.
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 19, 2024 15:12:56 GMT
I love my TH stamp platform. I have both the large and the small one. I use a piece of fun foam on the platform to give the stamp a bit of cushion. The images come out better. Also I don’t use the magnets since sometimes it keeps the top from being level and the image doesn’t completely stamp out. I use drafting tape to hold the paper. Same here, although I have been using Scotch removable tape. I just ordered drafting tape a day or two ago, since I recently saw a card maker using it in a video. However, I don’t use a cushion. I just ink my stamp again and re-stamp when I need the image a little darker. |
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I wonder if Dritz has a patent on their product though because if they don't, MSP will probably get one....sigh..... 
But in my instructor’s defense they did tell us up front to invest in a good metal ruler with a non slip cork back. And we were also instructed to always use a brand new sharp blade, because more people cut themselves with a dull blade that has to be forced than a sharp one that glides through. 
I know my Dad had a big crush on Marilyn though. 
