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Post by missfrenchjessica on Oct 27, 2018 17:33:42 GMT
Wow, is that what he said??  I must confess that I muted the TV when he started speaking. I just. cannot. listen. to. him. Cannot do it.  No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! But WHY are victims being made to defend themselves in schools and places of worship where they should be SAFE?! These are sacred places. Why should we need to do this? Seriously? This is just nuts. It's like blaming a store owner that he didn't have a security guard on staff when the store was robbed. Just nuts. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 17:33:58 GMT
Wow, is that what he said?? I must confess that I muted the TV when he started speaking. I just. cannot. listen. to. him. Cannot do it. No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! It WOULD HELP A LOT MORE if we had some FUCKING SENSIBLE GUN LAWS!!!!!! |
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 17:38:55 GMT
No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! It WOULD HELP A LOT MORE if we had some FUCKING SENSIBLE GUN LAWS!!!!!! BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. |
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Post by 5peanutsnana on Oct 27, 2018 17:41:34 GMT
Remind me to check if there's an armed guard when I attend Mass later today. You know... so I can feel safe.  |
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Post by Sarah*H on Oct 27, 2018 17:45:14 GMT
Please just not today. Not on this thread. Have some fucking compassion and take this bullshit somewhere else to share only with people who want to read it.
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 17:47:14 GMT
Please just not today. Not on this thread. Have some fucking compassion and take this bullshit somewhere else to share only with people who want to read it. Actually zingermack brought up gun laws and I was responding to her. Thank you. |
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Post by prapea on Oct 27, 2018 17:47:26 GMT
I am sick and fucking tired of the bullshit of “bad guys will always try to find a way to get a gun”. As I said before,if the deaths of young kids couldn’t change the hearts of the assholes who think that, nothing ever will. And yes, I called them all assholes. I have worse words to call them and I don’t give a flying fuck if I am called a democrat/libtard whatever. A curse upon everyone who even remotely thinks this is ok by saying shit like - but if we had strong death penalty, but I need my right to bear arms, but but but....fuck
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 17:50:58 GMT
I am sick and fucking tired of the bullshit if “bad guys will always try to find a way to get a gun”. As I said before,if the deaths of you g kids couldn’t change the hearts of the assholes who think that, nothing ever will. And yes, I called them all assholes. I have worse words to call them and I don’t give a flying fuck if I am called a democrat/libtard whatever. A curse upon everyone who even remotely thinks this is ok by saying shot like - but if we had atrong deathnpenalty, but I need my right to bear arms, but but but....fuck If you don’t believe that, just look to Chicago. Sling away. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 27, 2018 18:04:50 GMT
“Trump says the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting has "little" to do with gun laws: "If they had protection inside, the results would have been far better." (via CBS)”
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Post by lucyg on Oct 27, 2018 18:11:07 GMT
It WOULD HELP A LOT MORE if we had some FUCKING SENSIBLE GUN LAWS!!!!!! BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. You are arguing that the answer to violence is more violence. Many of us disagree. I don’t think you are convincing anyone here and now. In fact, you are just pissing people off. People who are already hurt and upset. Even though you’ve been asked to stop. Thanks a bunch. |
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Post by carhoch on Oct 27, 2018 18:22:03 GMT
Three professionally-trained armed police officers were shot responding to the Tree of Life Synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh today. What does Trump think a part-time security guard would do against a determined gunman with an assault rifle?
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Post by carhoch on Oct 27, 2018 18:22:57 GMT
“Trump says the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting has "little" to do with gun laws: " If they had protection inside, the results would have been far better." (via CBS)”  He’s blaming the victims |
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 18:27:48 GMT
BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. You are arguing that the answer to violence is more violence. Many of us disagree. I don’t think you are convincing anyone here and now. In fact, you are just pissing people off. People who are already hurt and upset. Even though you’ve been asked to stop. Thanks a bunch. [br Again, I was responding to zingermack. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 27, 2018 18:31:08 GMT
Wow, is that what he said??  I must confess that I muted the TV when he started speaking. I just. cannot. listen. to. him. Cannot do it. No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! You are all kinds of fucked up and lack basic comprehension skills. You are an example of what is wrong with society and how we got where we are right now. #isupportdomesticterrorism #blamethevictims #gunsforeveryone |
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Post by peano on Oct 27, 2018 18:34:18 GMT
It WOULD HELP A LOT MORE if we had some FUCKING SENSIBLE GUN LAWS!!!!!! BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. Well, by all means, let’s just throw up our hands in overwhelming defeat and not even bother. I wonder if years ago, there were tone deaf people such as yourself who, when faced with efforts to legally require seat belt use, just said, “Well, people will just refuse to wear them so why bother”? |
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 27, 2018 18:36:19 GMT
My husband and I lived just a few blocks from that synagogue when we lived in Squirrel Hill as newlyweds. It's such a vibrant neighborhood. I feel heartbroken. I never knew you lived there!  I grew up just a few blocks from Tree of Life. I'm in a FB group for my high school graduating class and we're waiting to hear if anyone in the group knows anyone who was at the service this morning.  I'm sorry this has hit so close to home for you.  |
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 18:37:08 GMT
No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! You are all kinds of fucked up and lack basic comprehension skills. You are an example of what is wrong with society and how we got where we are right now. #isupportdomesticterrorism #blamethevictims #gunsforeveryone If you can’t see the difference, get some help. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 27, 2018 18:37:48 GMT
Trump’s actual words, not mnmloveli ‘s poor comprehension of what was said: #blamethevictims |
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 18:38:37 GMT
BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. Well, by all means, let’s just throw up our hands in overwhelming defeat and not even bother. I wonder if years ago, there were tone deaf people such as yourself who, when faced with efforts to legally require seat belt use, just said, “Well, people will just refuse to wear them so why bother”? MANY people still don’t wear seat belts. Maybe we can start with Chicago. Let’s tackle one state at a time. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 27, 2018 18:39:04 GMT
You are all kinds of fucked up and lack basic comprehension skills. You are an example of what is wrong with society and how we got where we are right now. #isupportdomesticterrorism #blamethevictims #gunsforeveryone If you can’t see the difference, get some help. If you can’t understand basic English, get some help. And tutoring. Read the idiot in chief’s actual words. They weren’t how you reported them. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 27, 2018 18:39:24 GMT
I am sick and fucking tired of the bullshit if “bad guys will always try to find a way to get a gun”. As I said before,if the deaths of you g kids couldn’t change the hearts of the assholes who think that, nothing ever will. And yes, I called them all assholes. I have worse words to call them and I don’t give a flying fuck if I am called a democrat/libtard whatever. A curse upon everyone who even remotely thinks this is ok by saying shot like - but if we had atrong deathnpenalty, but I need my right to bear arms, but but but....fuck If you don’t believe that, just look to Chicago. Sling away. You do understand that Chicago does not have a border, and that guns flow in freely from outside the city, right? Reducing the easy availability of guns nationwide could prevent guns from getting into the hands of a lot of bad people. In developed countries where the ability to buy a gun is more strictly regulated, these kinds of things happen much, much less often - if at all. |
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Post by slkone on Oct 27, 2018 18:39:49 GMT
It WOULD HELP A LOT MORE if we had some FUCKING SENSIBLE GUN LAWS!!!!!! BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. I know abortion is not the subject here, but let's go with this analogy: "Women who get pregnant will always find ways to get abortions, so why should we outlaw them?" I can't stand this logic! The whole point for common sense gun reform is to make it HARDER for people to get guns, just like outlawing abortion is supposed to make it HARDER for women to get abortions. Also, that Chicago argument is bull. From this article: " Chicago’s seemingly intractable problem with gun violence is one of America’s fondest fascinations. It’s also a myth. Chicago has more gun murders than other large cities like New York and Los Angeles, thanks mostly to its long, unsecured border with North Alabamastan (sometimes called Indiana). However, Chicago’s murder rate still lags far behind the nation’s leaders, many of which are in red states with loose gun restrictions.
America’s capital of gun violence is in deep-red Louisiana. New Orleans suffers from four times the rate of gun murders as Chicago. Such terrifying urban hellscapes as Kansas City, Memphis and Atlanta all rack up much higher rates of gun violence than Chicago. Expand the inquiry beyond crime, to include accidental gun deaths and suicide, and Chicago simply recedes from the frame. The obvious conclusion also happens to be an empirical fact: states with high levels of gun ownership have higher levels of gun death. " |
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Post by MichyM on Oct 27, 2018 18:40:20 GMT
Wow, is that what he said?? I must confess that I muted the TV when he started speaking. I just. cannot. listen. to. him. Cannot do it. No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! I do not believe that this is the answer. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 27, 2018 18:42:26 GMT
No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! I do not believe that this is the answer. And, well, it wasn’t really what he said. It is what mnmloveli wanted him to say. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 27, 2018 18:43:07 GMT
Well, by all means, let’s just throw up our hands in overwhelming defeat and not even bother. I wonder if years ago, there were tone deaf people such as yourself who, when faced with efforts to legally require seat belt use, just said, “Well, people will just refuse to wear them so why bother”? MANY people still don’t wear seat belts. Maybe we can start with Chicago. Let’s tackle one state at a time. Houston, in red state Texas with very lax gun laws, has a higher gun homicide rate than Chicago. Your far-right “news” sources are greatly misleading you on Chicago. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 18:45:16 GMT
It WOULD HELP A LOT MORE if we had some FUCKING SENSIBLE GUN LAWS!!!!!! BAD/CRAZY people will always find a way to get a gun. Until we severely punish people who do the shootings, nothing will change. They get a slap on the wrist and 3 square meals a day; probably better than their regular life. Look at all the multiple shootings in Chicago almost every weekend. No media even talks about them. Laws AND consequences need to change. That's not going to help as much as sensible gun laws. Lots of these people don't care if they go out in a blaze of glory - look at the Vegas killer! Sometimes they kill themselves, sometimes they suicide by LEO. That's not what is going to deter a mentally unstable and/or brainwashed "race savior". |
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Post by ss on Oct 27, 2018 18:46:07 GMT
I’m so so sad to hear this. I work not too far from Squirrel Hill and pray for the victims and families.
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 27, 2018 18:47:30 GMT
If you can’t see the difference, get some help. If you can’t understand basic English, get some help. And tutoring. Read the idiot in chief’s actual words. They weren’t how you reported them. Bravo !!!!! You know how to curse and insult. You can’t seem to have a “conversation” without that when you don’t hear what you want. You are a very sad human being. Hope you find the help you need. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 27, 2018 18:52:22 GMT
And THIS is one reason that people do not seek help for mental health issues!! Trump: 'Wacko' who opened fire at Pittsburgh synagogue should get death penaltyBY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 10/27/18 12:54 PM EDT “This is a case where if they had an armed guard inside they would have been able to stop him immediately," he said. ** " If they had protection inside the results would have been far better," he said. ** More at link: thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/413468-trump-wacko-who-opened-fire-at-synagogue-should-get-death-penaltyNot one word about WE, just THEY, the victims!! dt again blames the VICTIMS!! |
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Post by busy on Oct 27, 2018 18:53:23 GMT
Wow, is that what he said?? I must confess that I muted the TV when he started speaking. I just. cannot. listen. to. him. Cannot do it. No he didn’t blame them. He said it would help if we could have armed guards in more places like churches and schools. BIG DIFFERENCE !! No, it really isn’t. |
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I must confess that I muted the TV when he started speaking. I just. cannot. listen. to. him. Cannot do it. 
He’s blaming the victims
