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Post by AnastasiaBeaverhausn on Nov 7, 2018 20:55:28 GMT
SHUT UP!! are you serious? he's out?!? i had election fatigue from last night so i haven't checked breaking new this morning. wow. wow. wow. It gets better. Watch the press conference. There's a $hit show. |
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 7, 2018 20:58:58 GMT
I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist or conspiracy strategist, but here is where I think he might be going with this:
1. Midterms are over. No real risk in getting rid of Sessions now. Anger over the firing/forced resignation won’t last long enough to affect 2020.
2. Getting rid of Sessions paves the way for halting the Meuller investigation, either by firing him or cutting his resources to where he is completely ineffective.
3. Allow the House to get fired up enough to start talking about impeachment. This will energize the conservative base (prime example: Kavanaugh) and help keep the Trump train running through the next election.
I for one hope the Democrats don’t take the bait. Impeachment proceedings are a fool’s errand because you need the Senate yo convict (with 67 votes, I think). Just stick to The individual investigations to lay out the corruption that is rotting away our democracy and bring all that nastiness to the surface. Then hide your time until 2020.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 7, 2018 21:00:20 GMT
SHUT UP!! are you serious? he's out?!? i had election fatigue from last night so i haven't checked breaking new this morning. wow. wow. wow. It gets better. Watch the press conference. There's a $hit show. jeff's press conference or Cheeto's? |
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Post by elaine on Nov 7, 2018 21:03:20 GMT
It gets better. Watch the press conference. There's a $hit show. jeff's press conference or Cheeto's? Trump’s was a complete and total shit show. Jaw dropping. That he talks to the press, especially women in the press, like that in public is an embarrassment. |
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Post by dewryce on Nov 7, 2018 21:09:01 GMT
jeff's press conference or Cheeto's? Trump’s was a complete and total shit show. Jaw dropping. That he talks to the press, especially women in the press, like that in public is an embarrassment. Yes, and people of other nationalities. Completely disrespectful. |
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Post by papersilly on Nov 7, 2018 21:09:17 GMT
jeff's press conference or Cheeto's? Trump’s was a complete and total shit show. Jaw dropping. That he talks to the press, especially women in the press, like that in public is an embarrassment. oh, his conference. i caught a snippet of it when i got in the car this morning and it was when he was stroking himself over the unprecedented GOP gains in the senate. he...just...couldn't....stop. if i wasn't so busy backing out of my driveway, i would have turned the channel sooner. needless to say i didn't hear the rest of it. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 7, 2018 22:21:45 GMT
And whomp there it is...
Rod stein is no longer in charge of the Mueller investigation—Sessions replacement is...
You know—they guy who wrote that Mueller was overstepping.
Yeah, it’s fucked up.
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Post by mom on Nov 7, 2018 22:23:16 GMT
I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist or conspiracy strategist, but here is where I think he might be going with this: 1. Midterms are over. No real risk in getting rid of Sessions now. Anger over the firing/forced resignation won’t last long enough to affect 2020. 2. Getting rid of Sessions paves the way for halting the Meuller investigation, either by firing him or cutting his resources to where he is completely ineffective. 3. Allow the House to get fired up enough to start talking about impeachment. This will energize the conservative base (prime example: Kavanaugh) and help keep the Trump train running through the next election. I for one hope the Democrats don’t take the bait. Impeachment proceedings are a fool’s errand because you need the Senate yo convict (with 67 votes, I think). Just stick to The individual investigations to lay out the corruption that is rotting away our democracy and bring all that nastiness to the surface. Then hide your time until 2020. I, too, think this is where he is going. He's betting the Democrats will try and impeach him & then the Senate won't agree. He can then say the Dems tried but there wasn't enough evidence. |
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Post by lisae on Nov 7, 2018 22:29:18 GMT
Well, he did say he wouldn't do anything with Sessions until after the midterms.
When will these people figure out that Trump is the most disloyal President we have ever had? Sooner or later he turns on every single person who supported him.
And he will turn on all those adoring voters, too. The man shows us who he is every day.
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Post by quinlove on Nov 7, 2018 22:39:08 GMT
Not me. Sessions was trump's man. Even with a slice of "integrity" by recusing himself, he was powerless in doing his job, because he caved to the orders of trump. this is a total AUTHORITARIAN move. We are witnessing a full on assault of democracy, our constitutional freedoms, our personal freedoms being eroded by the fuckwad in the white house, and the GOP is refusing to stop him. That was within 24 hours of the midterm. What the holy hell is going to happen before the new year ? |
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Post by lisae on Nov 8, 2018 0:02:23 GMT
Just finished the evening news on NBC where the lead story was not last night's election particularly the Democrats taking the house. The lead story that went on for about 5 minutes was Sessions. I suppose Trump thought this would help him. Instead we got to watch that embarrassing press conference.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 8, 2018 0:22:56 GMT
Sadly, Sessions became such an embarrassment. Either he was totally inept or he was corrupt, or both. He should have resigned a year ago when he was unwilling to do the job. He use to be well respected. He was one of the few members of the Trump administration who put his love of country and the Constitution above indulging the whims of a corrupt President. I, for one, think much more highly of him now than I did 2 years ago. I don't like Sessions and I hate many of his viewpoints. But I did not feel he was activeky trying to undermine this country. I think he started with good intentions (again even though I disagreed with him). I don't think he completely sold his soul to the devil. Now that the election is over, Trump is going to stop the investigation before the Democrats take the house in January. I hope Sessions follows everybody else and writes a book dealing with all trump's shit. And if the Mueller investigation is impeded, 8 hope there is a serious leak of classified information that doesn't pot our country or it's people at risk. |
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Post by pyccku on Nov 8, 2018 0:43:52 GMT
Having seen the way Mueller has acted in the last 2 years, I am 100% certain he anticipated this and has a plan B. And C, D, E and F.
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Post by elaine on Nov 8, 2018 0:51:44 GMT
He was one of the few members of the Trump administration who put his love of country and the Constitution above indulging the whims of a corrupt President. I, for one, think much more highly of him now than I did 2 years ago. I don't like Sessions and I hate many of his viewpoints. But I did not feel he was activeky trying to undermine this country. I think he started with good intentions (again even though I disagreed with him). I don't think he completely sold his soul to the devil. Now that the election is over, Trump is going to stop the investigation before the Democrats take the house in January. I hope Sessions follows everybody else and writes a book dealing with all trump's shit. And if the Mueller investigation is impeded, 8 hope there is a serious leak of classified information that doesn't pot our country or it's people at risk. IMO, Sessions and Lindsey Graham have taken opposite trajectories. Sessions started out kissing Trump’s butt, but stood firm in his recusal from and support of the Mueller investigation, even with the years’ long public sniping by Trump. Graham started out this administration by standing up to Trump - verbally, at least - but now has become the most ass-kissing indiscriminate of his fan boys. I wish that there was some way to make Graham go away. If I were Sessions, I would have given in a year ago - Trump was like a dog with a bone being butt-hurt by Sessions not telling him ahead of time that he would recuse himself. There was no way Sessions would ever be allowed to continue doing his job with a modicum of dignity. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 8, 2018 1:05:05 GMT
I don't think anyone's going to disagree that Sessions was an embarrassment. But to classify his one ethical act - properly recusing himself from the Russia investigation - as "not doing his job" is ludicrous. That’s right. And word is that Trump has replaced him with a reliable toady. I hope that the new guy has a spine. He’s gonna need it. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 8, 2018 1:20:11 GMT
I don't think anyone's going to disagree that Sessions was an embarrassment. But to classify his one ethical act - properly recusing himself from the Russia investigation - as "not doing his job" is ludicrous. I will never understand the anger about Session’s decision to recuse himself. I doubt I’d ever be angry about a self-recusal. There are rules about these things. When somebody says his involvement would constitute a conflict of interest, then there’s a conflict of interest. Full stop. I do understand the anger when people don’t recuse themselves (who clearly should), but this particular blame game is confuddling. He was the country’s lawyer. He had a professional ethical obligation to us, his clients. Perhaps the person who posted that opinion, and those who liked the post, could explain their thinking. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 8, 2018 1:35:42 GMT
Sadly, Sessions became such an embarrassment. Either he was totally inept or he was corrupt, or both. He should have resigned a year ago when he was unwilling to do the job. He use to be well respected. He became an embarrassment because....? The recusal? Surely that’s not what you mean. Because Sessions will not be remembered kindly by history, but that is one thing that he did right. |
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Post by 50offscrapper on Nov 8, 2018 1:46:11 GMT
As much as I dislike Sessions, I felt like he was the firewall against Trump stopping Mueller. Whitacre is no such person.
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 8, 2018 2:43:34 GMT
Sadly, Sessions became such an embarrassment. Either he was totally inept or he was corrupt, or both. He should have resigned a year ago when he was unwilling to do the job. He use to be well respected. He became an embarrassment because....? The recusal? Surely that’s not what you mean. Because Sessions will not be remembered kindly by history, but that is one thing that he did right. That’s right. That’s the only decent thing he’s done because everything else he did was an assault on blacks, Hispanics, LBTQs, any non- Christian, and even children just because they’re Mexicans. Good riddance to him. Whitaker is just an interim AG and he’s barred from being nominated as permanent AG. I’m not too worried about the Mueller investigation because by now there are probably sealed indictments that can no longer be stopped. I just hope the next AG would be less cruel than Sessions because he was one sadistic and bigoted bastard. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 8, 2018 17:30:35 GMT
I do understand the anger when people don’t recuse themselves (who clearly should), but this particular blame game is confuddling. He was the country’s lawyer. He had a professional ethical obligation to us, his clients. Perhaps the person who posted that opinion, and those who liked the post, could explain their thinking. The problem is, Trump doesn't, and never HAS, seen the AG as 'the country's lawyer' but wants that position to be his own "personal fixer" who will protect HIM, the President. He's said as much, on many, many occasions. The guy who replaced Sessions specifically said a few years ago that he wanted to get airtime on cable television so he would get Trump's attention, so as to try to get a good job back in Iowa out of the increased exposure. Well, he got part of what he wished for- Trump's attention. And I sincerely hope he gets what he deserves out of the whole thing. |
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Post by elaine on Nov 8, 2018 17:39:05 GMT
I do understand the anger when people don’t recuse themselves (who clearly should), but this particular blame game is confuddling. He was the country’s lawyer. He had a professional ethical obligation to us, his clients. Perhaps the person who posted that opinion, and those who liked the post, could explain their thinking. The problem is, Trump doesn't, and never HAS, seen the AG as 'the country's lawyer' but wants that position to be his own "personal fixer" who will protect HIM, the President. He's said as much, on many, many occasions. The guy who replaced Sessions specifically said a few years ago that he wanted to get airtime on cable television so he would get Trump's attention, so as to try to get a good job back in Iowa out of the increased exposure. Well, he got part of what he wished for- Trump's attention. And I sincerely hope he gets what he deserves out of the whole thing. Yes! CNN has been reporting today about Whitaker being part of a scam company that was shut down by the government. I hope that they continue to ferret out his shady past and bring it ALL to light. He’ll get attention, just not all of it positive. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 8, 2018 20:33:03 GMT
The problem is, Trump doesn't, and never HAS, seen the AG as 'the country's lawyer' but wants that position to be his own "personal fixer" who will protect HIM, the President. He's said as much, on many, many occasions. The guy who replaced Sessions specifically said a few years ago that he wanted to get airtime on cable television so he would get Trump's attention, so as to try to get a good job back in Iowa out of the increased exposure. Well, he got part of what he wished for- Trump's attention. And I sincerely hope he gets what he deserves out of the whole thing. Yes! CNN has been reporting today about Whitaker being part of a scam company that was shut down by the government. I hope that they continue to ferret out his shady past and bring it ALL to light. He’ll get attention, just not all of it positive. It won’t matter to trump. He likes them shady. It’s how he leverages people. |
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