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Post by silverlining on Dec 5, 2018 15:08:04 GMT
One line that was not redacted: “senior government leaders should be held to the highest standards.”
This makes me feel hopeful!
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 5, 2018 15:15:46 GMT
Mitch Smith... “The Republican-backed bills limiting the power of Wisconsin's incoming Democratic governor and attorney general have passed both chambers of the Legislature. They'll now go to the desk of the outgoing governor, Scott Walker.” Now we know for the Republicans it is power over country. If I were a Republican, I would be ashamed by the actions of my political party today. This is terrifying
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 5, 2018 15:21:46 GMT
Mitch Smith... “The Republican-backed bills limiting the power of Wisconsin's incoming Democratic governor and attorney general have passed both chambers of the Legislature. They'll now go to the desk of the outgoing governor, Scott Walker.” Now we know for the Republicans it is power over country. If I were a Republican, I would be ashamed by the actions of my political party today. This is terrifying They did this in NC when we elected a Democratic governor too.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 5, 2018 15:51:01 GMT
linkThey didn’t waste anytime. “D.C., Maryland begin seeking Trump financial documents in case related to his D.C. hotel” From the article.. “A ton of subpoenas just hit President Trump's family business seeking records from not only the Trump Organization but from the Internal Revenue Service and a dozen other entities, the Associated Press is reporting. In all, the subpoenas target more than 30 Trump-linked private entities. The bombshell news happened on Tuesday, just one day after U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte said that foreign and domestic spending at Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel amounted to a violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clause. The attorney generals from both the District of Columbia and Maryland were behind the coordinated effort. At issue is the ability to prove how Trump and his businesses have been profiting off the presidency. Trump contends he is not. "We will now serve subpoenas to third-party organizations and federal agencies to gather the necessary evidence to prove that President Trump is violating the Constitution's emoluments clauses — our nation's original anti-corruption laws," D.C. Attorney General Karl A. Racine said in a statement.” What made these attorneys general take a stand and finally do something? Is it the new Congress coming in that’s emboldened them or was there something else I missed? I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, above all else the fact that he’s making a fortune off the taxpayers makes me furious. Above all else, the thing that angers me the most, is that for 2 years the house & senate have not investigated one single solitary breech of ethics. Not one of the many. At least look into where the friggin money is coming from. At least look into who is or who isn’t buying or selling stocks before he tweets or yaks. ( Martha must be furious ) I have zero respect left. Zero.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 15:54:35 GMT
When you can't win on policy you can either change policy (which the GOP won't do cuz God is on their side y'all and you don't compromise w/the devil, blah, blah, blah) OR you can scam and scheme to change the rules and deny voting access.
Which do you think the GOP will choose?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 15:59:27 GMT
Between
1 - Sitting for HOURS in a ceremony not about him 2 - The Flynn documents and 3 - The subpoena of his financial papers
I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump completely lose it today.
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Post by lizacreates on Dec 5, 2018 16:03:41 GMT
linkThey didn’t waste anytime. “D.C., Maryland begin seeking Trump financial documents in case related to his D.C. hotel” From the article.. “A ton of subpoenas just hit President Trump's family business seeking records from not only the Trump Organization but from the Internal Revenue Service and a dozen other entities, the Associated Press is reporting. In all, the subpoenas target more than 30 Trump-linked private entities. The bombshell news happened on Tuesday, just one day after U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte said that foreign and domestic spending at Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel amounted to a violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clause. The attorney generals from both the District of Columbia and Maryland were behind the coordinated effort. At issue is the ability to prove how Trump and his businesses have been profiting off the presidency. Trump contends he is not. "We will now serve subpoenas to third-party organizations and federal agencies to gather the necessary evidence to prove that President Trump is violating the Constitution's emoluments clauses — our nation's original anti-corruption laws," D.C. Attorney General Karl A. Racine said in a statement.” What made these attorneys general take a stand and finally do something? Is it the new Congress coming in that’s emboldened them or was there something else I missed? I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, above all else the fact that he’s making a fortune off the taxpayers makes me furious. The attorneys general didn’t just do this recently. Their lawsuit was filed six months into Trump’s presidency.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 16:07:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 16:10:32 GMT
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Post by withapea on Dec 5, 2018 16:14:53 GMT
Republicans aren't even pretending anymore. The crap that's going on in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina, it's beyond the pale. I can only hope that it will come back to bite them, hopefully sooner rather than later. It's infuriating. They're poor winners and poor losers. I've been on the losing side of politics more often than not, it sucks, it's frustrating, but I'd never, ever, ever support my party subverting things the way they are.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 5, 2018 16:17:16 GMT
He pays little to no taxes anyway!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Dec 5, 2018 16:18:23 GMT
trump... “in the world. I want clean air and clean water and have been making great strides in improving America’s environment. But American taxpayers – and American workers – shouldn’t pay to clean up others countries’ pollution.” He just lies. That is all he does is lie lie lie lie. He’s saying exactly what his base wants to hear. #nofair!nuhunh! #americanpersecution #meandmine
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Post by lizacreates on Dec 5, 2018 16:21:19 GMT
LOL. Whether he accepts it or not, Marbury v. Madison is a precedent that established the judicial review power of courts. Until such a time that the SC reverses that ruling, it stays. It is an essential component of the checks and balances that undergird our democratic government. Perhaps he has a philosophical objection to checks and balances!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 16:44:07 GMT
So many #MAGA loons on twitter losing their shit that Trump isn't arresting Hillary and Barack - since they're right next to him and as "chief law enforcement officer" he can arrest them.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 5, 2018 16:53:03 GMT
What made these attorneys general take a stand and finally do something? Is it the new Congress coming in that’s emboldened them or was there something else I missed? I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, above all else the fact that he’s making a fortune off the taxpayers makes me furious. The attorneys general didn’t just do this recently. Their lawsuit was filed six months into Trump’s presidency. Yes, they did, and yet there were zero congressional or senatorial investigations into the emoluments issues.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 5, 2018 16:56:39 GMT
So many #MAGA loons on twitter losing their shit that Trump isn't arresting Hillary and Barack - since they're right next to him and as "chief law enforcement officer" he can arrest them. Hillary - emails I know But what are ‘we’ arresting Obama for? I don’t think the tan suit, the flip flops rise to arrest level? I mean I do think he made a mistake with Benghazi ( yes Obama not Hillary ) but plenty of presidents have made mistakes of similar kind and weren’t arrested.
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Post by lizacreates on Dec 5, 2018 17:01:56 GMT
The attorneys general didn’t just do this recently. Their lawsuit was filed six months into Trump’s presidency. Yes, they did, and yet there were zero congressional or senatorial investigations into the emoluments issues. Not surprising. Who would expect that With Trey Gowdy as chairman of House Oversight Committee? Benghazi, yes. Emoluments, no.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 17:06:22 GMT
So many #MAGA loons on twitter losing their shit that Trump isn't arresting Hillary and Barack - since they're right next to him and as "chief law enforcement officer" he can arrest them. Hillary - emails I know But what are ‘we’ arresting Obama for? I don’t think the tan suit, the flip flops rise to arrest level? I mean I do think he made a mistake with Benghazi ( yes Obama not Hillary ) but plenty of presidents have made mistakes of similar kind and weren’t arrested. Wiretapping Trump. You know, sometimes when you wiretap spies you get the people the spies are communicating with.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 5, 2018 17:28:04 GMT
Even with all the evil unjustified accusation and hate coming at President Trump, he still boldly proclaims God's love and redemption to our nation and lifts up Jesus as the Son of God. We will see an increase in the favor, wisdom and discernment that God pours out on our beloved President and our nation. Revelation 1:5-6 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the Prince of the Kings of the earth. Unto Him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in His own blood, And has made us Kings and Priests unto God and His Father; to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen." Merry Christmas! We love you! Bill & Melissa Shepherd. Yep, threw up in my mouth a little and blocked the poster!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 5, 2018 17:30:30 GMT
One line that was not redacted: “senior government leaders should be held to the highest standards.” This makes me feel hopeful! I was thinking Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 5, 2018 17:31:26 GMT
When you can't win on policy you can either change policy (which the GOP won't do cuz God is on their side y'all and you don't compromise w/the devil, blah, blah, blah) OR you can scam and scheme to change the rules and deny voting access. Which do you think the GOP will choose? Always the cheating way. This is what republicans have become.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 5, 2018 17:37:07 GMT
So many #MAGA loons on twitter losing their shit that Trump isn't arresting Hillary and Barack - since they're right next to him and as "chief law enforcement officer" he can arrest them. For our sake he is extremely outnumbered sitting there!! Hour and half in and he is getting very restless!! He has missed his executive time!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 17:53:51 GMT
Trump not saying Apostle's Creed - unlike all the other former presidents.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 5, 2018 18:17:59 GMT
Hillary - emails I know But what are ‘we’ arresting Obama for? I don’t think the tan suit, the flip flops rise to arrest level? I mean I do think he made a mistake with Benghazi ( yes Obama not Hillary ) but plenty of presidents have made mistakes of similar kind and weren’t arrested. Wiretapping Trump. You know, sometimes when you wiretap spies you get the people the spies are communicating with. Oh, the microwave
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Post by Merge on Dec 5, 2018 18:37:24 GMT
Trump not saying Apostle's Creed - unlike all the other former presidents. He can't remember the words to the national anthem. You think he can remember the Apostles Creed? 😂
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Post by Merge on Dec 5, 2018 18:39:12 GMT
Look! It's the perfect gift for the Trump lovers in your life. Click through and read the back cover for extra enjoyment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 20:40:51 GMT
linkYet another example of trump and company #MAGA! From Paul Waldman at the Washington Post.. “The Trump administration’s war on consumers is going swimmingly”When Donald Trump ran for president saying that he’d take on a corrupt system that stomped on ordinary people in the service of those with money and power, he was only half lying. Yes, as one of the most corrupt major business figures in America, he was destined to be more committed to self-dealing than any president in our lifetimes, and so he has been. But his basic diagnosis of the system — not just Washington but the ways power is manifest throughout American life — wasn’t wrong. When he said the whole thing is “rigged,” it made a lot of sense to people who felt like their opportunities are constrained while those with money and influence get whatever they want. While there are some ways Trump is not an ordinary Republican, in his commitment to enhancing the wealth of the wealthy and the power of the powerful — keeping the system rigged — he most certainly is. And the fact that they do such a good job at it with only limited political cost is one of the marvels of American politics. Today, The Post documents (with some revealing charts here) just how the system-rigging has played out in one particular agency, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, since President Trump installed his budget director Mick Mulvaney to lead it: One year after Mulvaney’s arrival, he and his political aides have constrained the agency from within, achieving what conservatives on Capitol Hill had for years been unable to do, according to agency data and interviews with career officials.Publicly announced enforcement actions by the bureau have dropped about 75 percent from average in recent years, while consumer complaints have risen to new highs, according to a Washington Post analysis of bureau data.Over the past year, the agency’s workforce has dropped by at least 129 employees amid the largest exodus since its creation in 2010, agency data shows.Created by Congress to protect Americans from financial abuses, the bureau under Mulvaney has adopted the role of promoting “free markets” and guarding the rights of banks and financial firms as well as those of consumers, according to statements by Mulvaney and bureau documents.As Mulvaney told his constituents at a meeting of the American Bankers Association, “I won’t talk too much about regulation by enforcement, but the short version is we’re not doing it anymore.” They must have laughed so hard in glee that their monocles popped out. Let’s back up a bit. The CFPB, as you may know, was originally Elizabeth Warren’s idea, back when she was still a professor at Harvard Law School, and was created as part of the financial reforms that emerged from the Great Recession. Its mandate was simple and, one would think, bound to be popular: Protect consumers from being abused, exploited, and defrauded by financial service companies, whether banks or credit card companies or payday lenders. Yet from the outset, Republicans found this seemingly unassailable goal to be deeply offensive. They’ve wanted to shut the agency down from the moment it was created, but weren’t successful — until Trump became president, and now the job is being done. Which points to an extraordinary feature of American politics. There are, relatively speaking, very few super-rich people and a great many people of ordinary incomes and wealth. Yet the party devoted to the interests of the former still manages much of the time to convince regular people that it has their interests at heart. How do they do it? How do you justify an effort to literally make it easier for financial service companies to defraud consumers while still convincing people that you don’t actively despise them? Republicans have spent a long time thinking about how to deal with the electoral math problem created by passionate advocacy for the wealthy and powerful, and the solution they came up with has two parts. First, try to fight to a draw on things like tax cuts and deregulation by claiming that it will all create jobs. They don’t have to actually win the argument, and often they don’t, as they didn’t with their 2017 tax cuts, which are extremely unpopular since most Americans realized that they mostly benefited corporations and the wealthy. But most of the time they’re happy to just limit the anger people feel. And when the economy is doing reasonably well, as it is now, it isn’t too much of a problem. Democrats will say “Republicans are just helping the rich!” but if voters are feeling good, they won’t get too worked up about it even if they agree.
The second part of the strategy is to shift focus away from the economic elite and on to the cultural elite — Hollywood, academia — which is indeed dominated by liberals. Those are the people holding you back, Republicans say, not Wall Street, but a bunch of snooty professors. Tune in to Fox News for a day or two and you’ll see a litany of cultural outrages from the “elite,” meant to keep Republican voters focused on hating the right people. It’s why even George H.W. Bush, multi-millionaire son of a senator, child of Connecticut and Kennebunkport, the kind of fellow who used “summer” as a verb, could tar his 1988 opponent, a son of immigrants who lived such an austere life that he probably cobbled his own shoes, as having been “born in Harvard Yard’s boutique.”
But much of the time, the answer Republicans have found to the question of how you do the elite’s work while not alienating regular people too much is just to go about that business and hope nobody notices. And sometimes it’s not a bad bet to make. How many Americans know what the CFPB is, or even that there’s an agency that exists to protect them from financial fraud? How many know that the Trump administration is trying to destroy it? If it’s as much as five or ten percent of Americans I’d be surprised.
But if the next Democratic presidential candidate wants to make the case that the system is not only still rigged against ordinary people but is actually more rigged than it was when Trump took office, she’ll have plenty of material to work with.”
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Post by pyccku on Dec 5, 2018 21:14:06 GMT
Trump not saying Apostle's Creed - unlike all the other former presidents. Maybe that's because all the other former presidents are Christian and Trump...isn't.
He's not even pretending any more.
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