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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 21:51:49 GMT
linkBroken record “And yet another example not only how trump is #MAGA but also looking out for the little guy”. Buzzfeed... “Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up”From the article. ”The president thinks the balancing of the nation’s books is going to, ultimately, be a future president’s problem. Since the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump’s aides and advisers have tried to convince him of the importance of tackling the national debt. Sources close to the president say he has repeatedly shrugged it off, implying that he doesn’t have to worry about the money owed to America’s creditors—currently about $21 trillion—because he won’t be around to shoulder the blame when it becomes even more untenable. The friction came to a head in early 2017 when senior officials offered Trump charts and graphics laying out the numbers and showing a “hockey stick” spike in the national debt in the not-too-distant future. In response, Trump noted that the data suggested the debt would reach a critical mass only after his possible second term in office.
Yeah, but I won’t be here,” the president bluntly said, according to a source who was in the room when Trump made this comment during discussions on the debt.”
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Post by lucyg on Dec 5, 2018 22:47:17 GMT
Look! It's the perfect gift for the Trump lovers in your life. Click through and read the back cover for extra enjoyment. Holy crap, I see a typo (misspelling) on the back cover without even clicking through. Damn fools.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 5, 2018 22:50:43 GMT
linkYet another example of trump and company #MAGA! From Paul Waldman at the Washington Post.. “The Trump administration’s war on consumers is going swimmingly”When Donald Trump ran for president saying that he’d take on a corrupt system that stomped on ordinary people in the service of those with money and power, he was only half lying. Yes, as one of the most corrupt major business figures in America, he was destined to be more committed to self-dealing than any president in our lifetimes, and so he has been. But his basic diagnosis of the system — not just Washington but the ways power is manifest throughout American life — wasn’t wrong. When he said the whole thing is “rigged,” it made a lot of sense to people who felt like their opportunities are constrained while those with money and influence get whatever they want. While there are some ways Trump is not an ordinary Republican, in his commitment to enhancing the wealth of the wealthy and the power of the powerful — keeping the system rigged — he most certainly is. And the fact that they do such a good job at it with only limited political cost is one of the marvels of American politics. Today, The Post documents (with some revealing charts here) just how the system-rigging has played out in one particular agency, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, since President Trump installed his budget director Mick Mulvaney to lead it: One year after Mulvaney’s arrival, he and his political aides have constrained the agency from within, achieving what conservatives on Capitol Hill had for years been unable to do, according to agency data and interviews with career officials.Publicly announced enforcement actions by the bureau have dropped about 75 percent from average in recent years, while consumer complaints have risen to new highs, according to a Washington Post analysis of bureau data.Over the past year, the agency’s workforce has dropped by at least 129 employees amid the largest exodus since its creation in 2010, agency data shows.Created by Congress to protect Americans from financial abuses, the bureau under Mulvaney has adopted the role of promoting “free markets” and guarding the rights of banks and financial firms as well as those of consumers, according to statements by Mulvaney and bureau documents.As Mulvaney told his constituents at a meeting of the American Bankers Association, “I won’t talk too much about regulation by enforcement, but the short version is we’re not doing it anymore.” They must have laughed so hard in glee that their monocles popped out. Let’s back up a bit. The CFPB, as you may know, was originally Elizabeth Warren’s idea, back when she was still a professor at Harvard Law School, and was created as part of the financial reforms that emerged from the Great Recession. Its mandate was simple and, one would think, bound to be popular: Protect consumers from being abused, exploited, and defrauded by financial service companies, whether banks or credit card companies or payday lenders. Yet from the outset, Republicans found this seemingly unassailable goal to be deeply offensive. They’ve wanted to shut the agency down from the moment it was created, but weren’t successful — until Trump became president, and now the job is being done. Which points to an extraordinary feature of American politics. There are, relatively speaking, very few super-rich people and a great many people of ordinary incomes and wealth. Yet the party devoted to the interests of the former still manages much of the time to convince regular people that it has their interests at heart. How do they do it? How do you justify an effort to literally make it easier for financial service companies to defraud consumers while still convincing people that you don’t actively despise them? Republicans have spent a long time thinking about how to deal with the electoral math problem created by passionate advocacy for the wealthy and powerful, and the solution they came up with has two parts. First, try to fight to a draw on things like tax cuts and deregulation by claiming that it will all create jobs. They don’t have to actually win the argument, and often they don’t, as they didn’t with their 2017 tax cuts, which are extremely unpopular since most Americans realized that they mostly benefited corporations and the wealthy. But most of the time they’re happy to just limit the anger people feel. And when the economy is doing reasonably well, as it is now, it isn’t too much of a problem. Democrats will say “Republicans are just helping the rich!” but if voters are feeling good, they won’t get too worked up about it even if they agree.
The second part of the strategy is to shift focus away from the economic elite and on to the cultural elite — Hollywood, academia — which is indeed dominated by liberals. Those are the people holding you back, Republicans say, not Wall Street, but a bunch of snooty professors. Tune in to Fox News for a day or two and you’ll see a litany of cultural outrages from the “elite,” meant to keep Republican voters focused on hating the right people. It’s why even George H.W. Bush, multi-millionaire son of a senator, child of Connecticut and Kennebunkport, the kind of fellow who used “summer” as a verb, could tar his 1988 opponent, a son of immigrants who lived such an austere life that he probably cobbled his own shoes, as having been “born in Harvard Yard’s boutique.”
But much of the time, the answer Republicans have found to the question of how you do the elite’s work while not alienating regular people too much is just to go about that business and hope nobody notices. And sometimes it’s not a bad bet to make. How many Americans know what the CFPB is, or even that there’s an agency that exists to protect them from financial fraud? How many know that the Trump administration is trying to destroy it? If it’s as much as five or ten percent of Americans I’d be surprised.
But if the next Democratic presidential candidate wants to make the case that the system is not only still rigged against ordinary people but is actually more rigged than it was when Trump took office, she’ll have plenty of material to work with.” See, this is the stuff that makes me madder than anything. I don’t really care about the self-dealing. I mean, I do, but I shrug that off ... it doesn’t affect the average person the way this rip-off lying garbage does. He is just utterly contemptible.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 5, 2018 22:51:51 GMT
linkBroken record “And yet another example not only how trump is #MAGA but also looking out for the little guy”. Buzzfeed... “Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up”From the article. ”The president thinks the balancing of the nation’s books is going to, ultimately, be a future president’s problem. Since the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump’s aides and advisers have tried to convince him of the importance of tackling the national debt. Sources close to the president say he has repeatedly shrugged it off, implying that he doesn’t have to worry about the money owed to America’s creditors—currently about $21 trillion—because he won’t be around to shoulder the blame when it becomes even more untenable. The friction came to a head in early 2017 when senior officials offered Trump charts and graphics laying out the numbers and showing a “hockey stick” spike in the national debt in the not-too-distant future. In response, Trump noted that the data suggested the debt would reach a critical mass only after his possible second term in office.
Yeah, but I won’t be here,” the president bluntly said, according to a source who was in the room when Trump made this comment during discussions on the debt.”
And this. But we ran off the conservatives by being mean.
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Post by janeliz on Dec 5, 2018 22:57:25 GMT
Trump not saying Apostle's Creed - unlike all the other former presidents. He can't remember the words to the national anthem. You think he can remember the Apostles Creed? 😂 Hey, but didn’t they all have a program to read from if necessary? Does this mean we can now circle back around to the “Can Trump actually read?” discussion/rumor? 🤔
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Post by femalebusiness on Dec 5, 2018 23:08:34 GMT
Trump not saying Apostle's Creed - unlike all the other former presidents. He can't remember the words to the national anthem. You think he can remember the Apostles Creed? 😂 Ha! i just looked at my husband and said he doesn't even know the Apostles Creed. Then I read your post.
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:16:07 GMT
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:17:14 GMT
Followed by this....
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:19:02 GMT
He makes me so very sick....he is just so so ignorant
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:25:05 GMT
Hahaha...he did it again!
Look at Trump's face. Scowled the whole service.
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:26:30 GMT
Ok, to be fair, the funeral could have started by the second photo,....
But man, that first photo is awesome!
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:33:44 GMT
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 5, 2018 23:37:24 GMT
He makes me so very sick....he is just so so ignorant What always amazes me by these kind of moments is shouldn't he have a handler of some kind that could have prepared him for this procedure? They could've walked him through exactly what to do and when. But maybe he just really doesn't care.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 23:42:37 GMT
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Post by Belle on Dec 5, 2018 23:47:52 GMT
He makes me so very sick....he is just so so ignorant Yep...
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Post by dewryce on Dec 5, 2018 23:47:59 GMT
He makes me so very sick....he is just so so ignorant What always amazes me by these kind of moments is shouldn't he have a handler of some kind that could have prepared him for this procedure? They could've walked him through exactly what to do and when. But maybe he just really doesn't care. Or he could have followed what others are doing, like everyone who has ever attended any unfamiliar event, ever.
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Post by imsirius on Dec 5, 2018 23:54:34 GMT
Ok not trump..but I'm bawling.
I love George Bush, the man. Lousy president but a wonderful human. I'd love to be his friend.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 23:58:49 GMT
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Post by Merge on Dec 6, 2018 0:14:33 GMT
Ok, to be fair, the funeral could have started by the second photo,.... But man, that first photo is awesome! Narrative on NPR confirms the photo - after Trump arrived and the Obamas shook his hand, there was no further interaction and everyone just stared straight ahead.
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Post by katlady on Dec 6, 2018 0:15:40 GMT
Hahaha...he did it again! Look at Trump's face. Scowled the whole service. George Bush is such a character! Love it!
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Post by katlaw on Dec 6, 2018 0:18:41 GMT
trump... ”Did you ever see an investigation more in search of a crime? At the same time Mueller and the Angry Democrats aren’t even looking at the atrocious, and perhaps subversive, crimes that were committed by Crooked Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. A total disgrace!” “When will this illegal Joseph McCarthy style Witch Hunt, one that has shattered so many innocent lives, ever end-or will it just go on forever? After wasting more than $40,000,000 (is that possible?), it has proven only one thing-there was NO Collusion with Russia. So Ridiculous!” Wasn’t it $30M yesterday or the day before yesterday? For a witch hunt there sure are a lot of people pleading guilty. I don’t know where he’s getting that figure from. I just checked Mueller’s reports of expenditures to the DOJ. From the period of May 17, 2017 (when Mueller was appointed) through March 31, 2018, the Special Counsel’s Office reported a total of $9,022,000 in expenditures. There is no public report yet for the last eight months, but even if you add another $10M, that still doesn’t come close to $40M. And all assets seized from Manafort will more than pay for this investigation. He is getting his dollar amount the same place he gets all of his other facts. He is making up stuff. Like he does every day.
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Post by janeliz on Dec 6, 2018 1:13:13 GMT
It’s occasions like the G20 and this funeral when Trump’s strikingly awkward comportment and behavior are the most obvious. When you see him next to other world and state leaders...it’s jaw dropping.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 1:45:50 GMT
Claire McCaskill...
“So sad that our dinner to say good bye to Senators that are leaving is not bipartisan. If we can’t be together to even recognize those who are leaving, what hope is there for this place? Why didn’t it happen? 2 words. Mitch McConnell”
Good question.
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Post by jayfab on Dec 6, 2018 2:18:20 GMT
Ok, to be fair, the funeral could have started by the second photo,.... But man, that first photo is awesome! Narrative on NPR confirms the photo - after Trump arrived and the Obamas shook his hand, there was no further interaction and everyone just stared straight ahead. Yes, it got really frosty after trump arrived. But I think the second photo was after the service started since everyone in the background are serious and not talking amongst themselves either. (or maybe just as it was starting?)
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Post by quinlove on Dec 6, 2018 2:23:11 GMT
He makes me so very sick....he is just so so ignorant Everyone else has their hand on their heart. Except Trump - he doesn’t *have* a heart...
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 6, 2018 2:27:59 GMT
What always amazes me by these kind of moments is shouldn't he have a handler of some kind that could have prepared him for this procedure? They could've walked him through exactly what to do and when. But maybe he just really doesn't care. Or he could have followed what others are doing, like everyone who has ever attended any unfamiliar event, ever.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 6, 2018 2:58:41 GMT
Let’s back up a bit. The CFPB, as you may know, was originally Elizabeth Warren’s idea, back when she was still a professor at Harvard Law School, and was created as part of the financial reforms that emerged from the Great Recession. I read an article yesterday maybe... I think Mulvaney is changing the name with a new acronym, forcing ALL the companies, banks, financial institutions to spend multi-millions of dollars to change all their paper work/forms, necessary for legal papers.... (Maybe 300 million? )
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Post by lucyg on Dec 6, 2018 3:05:33 GMT
Let’s back up a bit. The CFPB, as you may know, was originally Elizabeth Warren’s idea, back when she was still a professor at Harvard Law School, and was created as part of the financial reforms that emerged from the Great Recession. I read an article yesterday maybe... I think Mulvaney is changing the name with a new acronym, forcing ALL the companies, banks, financial institutions to spend multi-millions of dollars to change all their paper work/forms, necessary for legal papers.... (Maybe 300 million? ) just FYI, that’s not a quotation from me but (I think) lizacreates. I know the board screws up quoting sometimes. Didn’t want to take credit for her knowledge.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 6, 2018 3:20:28 GMT
I read an article yesterday maybe... I think Mulvaney is changing the name with a new acronym, forcing ALL the companies, banks, financial institutions to spend multi-millions of dollars to change all their paper work/forms, necessary for legal papers.... (Maybe 300 million? ) just FYI, that’s not a quotation from me but (I think) lizacreates . I know the board screws up quoting sometimes. Didn’t want to take credit for her knowledge. @fred maybe................ It has been a very long day....
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Post by katlady on Dec 6, 2018 3:25:29 GMT
Narrative on NPR confirms the photo - after Trump arrived and the Obamas shook his hand, there was no further interaction and everyone just stared straight ahead. Yes, it got really frosty after trump arrived. But I think the second photo was after the service started since everyone in the background are serious and not talking amongst themselves either. (or maybe just as it was starting?) I heard that Trump arrived just a few minutes before the service started, so everyone was probably getting settled and quieting down when he arrived. But the clip I watched, the commentator was saying how President Obama was kind of in the hot seat, he was the barrier between Trump and everyone else and how it looked like Obama knew it.
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