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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 14:17:31 GMT
December 14th marks 6 years since Sandy Hook. An event in which 20 little children were massacred and America did nothing because of the power of the gun lobby and the brainwashing of the fearful.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 11, 2018 14:27:43 GMT
Actually all three would apply! Just clarifying something so there’s no misunderstanding. Those three enumerated above are not from the statute. Those were merely my suggestions for possible justifications given the situation we’re in now. All good. But they are great suggestions! On point !!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 11, 2018 14:36:17 GMT
The issue is trump and company wants one to believe the Steel dossier is some nefarious document that was somehow used to illegally obtain FISA warrants and led to the Russia investigation and that somehow the Clinton Campaign broke the law in contracting with Fusion to obtain opposition research on trump. When in fact there is nothing illegal in doing opposition research. Well maybe there would be a problem if the researcher broke the law in obtaining the information. SOoooooooooo it is illegal for Clinton to do opposition research but it IS legal for jr and jared to do opposition research with the Russians in Trump Individual #1 Tower?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 14:42:11 GMT
trump..
“Fake News has it purposely wrong. Many, over ten, are vying for and wanting the White House Chief of Staff position. Why wouldn’t someone want one of the truly great and meaningful jobs in Washington. Please report news correctly. Thank you!”
What an insecure little man. “Many, over ten..”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 14:48:14 GMT
Manu Raju...
“Hatch also told me: “President Trump before he became president that’s another world. Since he’s become president this economy has charged ahead. ... And I think we ought to judge him on that basis other than trying to drum up things from the past that may or may not be true.”
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but the Republicans in Congress, including this fool, cared very much what went on in Bill Clinton’s other world before becoming President.
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Post by MissBianca on Dec 11, 2018 14:48:24 GMT
No honor among thieves. Not surprising. They are screwed either way, if they back trump then they will be voted out in the next election cycle but if they ditch trump they piss off their base.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 15:19:01 GMT
Grant Stern...
“House GOP minority leader Kevin McCarthy states that if campaign finance crimes are a violation then lots of Congressmen (probably in his caucus) will have to go.”
So either this fool diesn’t Have a problem with corruption among his fellow Congresspeople or he is incredibly stupid.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 11, 2018 15:22:47 GMT
The issue is trump and company wants one to believe the Steel dossier is some nefarious document that was somehow used to illegally obtain FISA warrants and led to the Russia investigation and that somehow the Clinton Campaign broke the law in contracting with Fusion to obtain opposition research on trump. When in fact there is nothing illegal in doing opposition research. Well maybe there would be a problem if the researcher broke the law in obtaining the information. SOoooooooooo it is illegal for Clinton to do opposition research but it IS legal for jr and jared to do opposition research with the Russians in Trump Individual #1 Tower? Nailed it!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 15:37:40 GMT
Hadn’t at least two other FISA warrants been issued for Carter page prior to the one referencing the Steele dossier in precious years? The man was already on our radar big time; so of course when new information comes through that he may need to be closely looked at again, from a trusted source at that, they feel it merits investigation even if not yet proven. I believe you are correct in that Carter Page had been investigated by the FBI prior to joining trump’s campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 15:45:27 GMT
1. Why does Zinke still have a job.
2. You can add “transparency” to the growing list of items the GOP can no longer try and claim the moral high ground on over the Democrats.
Mother Jones..
”Getting Interior to Respond to Your FOIA Requests Just Got a Lot Harder“
“In his latest attempt to make the Interior Department’s activities less transparent, Ryan Zinke shifted responsibility for handling public records requests from a career employee to a political appointee with a long history working for conservative megadonors Charles and David Koch. The order, signed November 20, was first noticed by the Center for Biological Diversity, an environmental advocacy group that has previously sued the Trump administration for not releasing information pertaining to its planned rollback of the Endangered Species Act.
“Zinke is politicizing Interior’s Freedom of Information Act process to deny the public access to information and hide the oil industry’s dirty secrets,” Meg Townsend, the Center for Biological Diversity’s open government attorney, said in a statement. “With a Koch crony in charge of records requests, the department will work in darkness. Public records that might shame Zinke or big polluters will be covered up, and our public lands and wildlife will suffer.”
Instead of the department’s chief information officer fielding and responding to Freedom of Information Act requests—as has been the case previously—Zinke assigned the task to acting solicitor Daniel Jorjani, who had advised the Koch brothers in several roles, including as director of research at the Charles Koch Institute. Jorjani has been acting solicitor since President Trump’s inauguration, because the Senate has not confirmed a White House appointee as Interior’s main solicitor. (Trump nominated Ryan Nelson, now a judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, but his case never advanced in the Senate.)
Under Jorjani’s watch, the department released two legal opinions that have dramatically rolled back wildlife protections to the benefit of oil and gas firms, including an interpretation of the century-old Migratory Bird Act—designed to prevent the pursuit or capture of migratory birds—that prevents Interior from penalizing oil, gas, and solar companies that accidentally kill birds. The Obama administration had authored this opinion days before Trump took office, making it possible for energy operators to be held legally liable for accidentally harming birds.
In recent months, Jorjani has developed a reputation as a “troubleshooter” who is willing to meet frequently with industry representatives who have business before the Interior Department. In the months before he issued his opinion on the Migratory Bird Act, Jorjani took “no fewer than two dozen” meetings with trade groups, industry lobbyists, and other officials, including several with an economic interest in gutting protections for migratory birds, according to emails and public records analyzed by Pacific Standard.
Now that Jorjani is in charge of responding to public records requests submitted to Interior, advocacy groups believe he will further obstruct the process of obtaining public records from Zinke’s embattled department. Since May 2017, Interior has only fulfilled 10.53 percent of the FOIA requests submitted by the Western Values Project, a Montana-based environmental advocacy group. In partnership with two other groups, Democracy Forward and American Oversight, WVP sued Interior twice over outstanding FOIA requests related to deputy secretary David Bernhardt and whether Zinke complied with certain ethics rules. More than 130 public records requests, including some that are 18 months-old, “are still outstanding,” a spokesperson for the group said in an email to Mother Jones.
Last December, Zinke drew headlines for adding a cloak of secrecy to another formerly apolitical process: the approval of federal grants. He ordered Steven Howke, a high school football teammate of Zinke’s with no prior government experience, to review any grant applications above a $50,000 threshold. “
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 15:48:44 GMT
This from trump..
“Despite the large Caravans that WERE forming and heading to our Country, people have not been able to get through our newly built Walls, makeshift Walls & Fences, or Border Patrol Officers & Military. They are now staying in Mexico or going back to their original countries.......”
Prompted the real story from. Jacob Soboroff..
“Nope.
Congress hasn’t approved funding for *any* of the eight different wall prototypes Trump built and I visited at the border.
Not one.
There are no “newly built Walls” — only upgraded fencing — the kind used during previous administrations.”
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Post by hop2 on Dec 11, 2018 15:49:45 GMT
about fucking time. Geez dudes too little too late but get it done anyway. ETA: oh and don’t feel bad for Trump if the situation were reversed he would abandon them in a flash. Throw them under the bus even. It’s always been his MO Watch out R’s if he thinks he can save himself he will spill ALL your secrets he has NEVER had any honor
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Post by hop2 on Dec 11, 2018 15:53:36 GMT
SOoooooooooo it is illegal for Clinton to do opposition research but it IS legal for jr and jared to do opposition research with the Russians in Trump Individual #1 Tower? Nailed it! OMG I would love to see all his buildings relabeled individual 1 ROTFLOL
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 11, 2018 15:58:09 GMT
hahaha!!! Brian Williams just said 'where there's smock, there's fire' hahahaha!!! ROFL!!!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 11, 2018 16:05:06 GMT
Nailed it! OMG I would love to see all his buildings relabeled individual 1 ROTFLOL I keep waiting for someone with some mad Photoshop skills to do it and post it online!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 11, 2018 16:21:23 GMT
Giuliani’s ‘truth isn’t truth’ named most notable quote of 2018BY TAL AXELROD - 12/11/18 09:09 AM EST Rudy Giuliani’s assertion that “truth isn’t truth” topped a Yale Law School librarian’s list for the most notable quotes of 2018, according to the Associated Press. The statement went viral in August after Giuliani, a personal attorney for President Trump, appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” and discussed whether a presidential interview with special counsel Robert Mueller could be a “perjury trap.” In response to moderator Chuck Todd's statement that “truth is truth,” Giuliani responded: “No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth.”Giuliani said he was trying to make the point that an interview would be fruitless since Mueller and Trump were in disagreement over fundamental aspects of the special counsel’s inquiry. "We have a credibility gap between the two of them," Giuliani went on to say. "You’ve got to select one or the other." Giuliani’s quote is one of several on the list related to the president, including Trump’s January tweeted declaring himself a “stable genius.” ** thehill.com/homenews/news/420729-giulianis-truth-isnt-truth-named-most-notable-quote-this-yearYes, Yes, and yes again!!
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Post by dewryce on Dec 11, 2018 16:25:47 GMT
OMG I would love to see all his buildings relabeled individual 1 ROTFLOL I keep waiting for someone with some mad Photoshop skills to do it and post it online! It’s been done already, and it’s awesome! I’m trying to remember where I’ve seen it...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 11, 2018 16:36:07 GMT
This from trump.. “Despite the large Caravans that WERE forming and heading to our Country, people have not been able to get through our newly built Walls, makeshift Walls & Fences, or Border Patrol Officers & Military. They are now staying in Mexico or going back to their original countries.......” Guess there is no need for more funds to build a NEW wall!!! Good job dt!! Wall is good!
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Post by maryannscraps on Dec 11, 2018 16:52:31 GMT
OMG, now he says he can order the military to build the wall if Congress won't approve the money in the budget.
He has absolutely no clue how our government works. Congress still needs to approve the appropriation in order for the ANYONE to do the project. Dumbass.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 11, 2018 17:16:55 GMT
Republicans skeptical of Trump’s plan to have military build the wallBY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 12/11/18 11:00 AM EST Republican lawmakers are skeptical of a plan floated by President Trump to have the military build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border or repurpose defense funds to pay for it. ** “There was a discussion of it but on the question of how to work it there are a lot of closed doors,” said a GOP lawmaker familiar with internal discussions about repurposing defense funding to build the wall. ** “What would DoD give up to pay for that?” said the GOP lawmaker. “That’s the question.” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Appropriations Committee, said there is legal uncertainty about whether Trump could repurpose defense funding. ** “If the president has the authority to do it legally, if he has the authority to do it, I would think politically it’s one of his key campaign promises and he would want to keep it. But I don’t know if he has the legal authority and I’m not sure what kind of friction that would create with appropriators around here in future negotiations on other topics.” ** thehill.com/policy/defense/420767-republicans-skeptical-of-trumps-plan-to-have-military-build-the-wall
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Post by Skellinton on Dec 11, 2018 17:17:42 GMT
I keep waiting for someone with some mad Photoshop skills to do it and post it online! It’s been done already, and it’s awesome! I’m trying to remember where I’ve seen it... Either SNL or Daily Show had that image. It was hilarious!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 17:43:27 GMT
Adam Schiff...
”Help wanted: White House Chief of Staff. No experience necessary. Must respond well to infighting, backbiting, dishonesty and dishonor.
Excited by the prospect of an impossible work environment? Enjoy humiliation? Apply now!
*Background check ... negotiable.”
😀
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Post by lucyg on Dec 11, 2018 17:48:03 GMT
Gawd, I love Adam Schiff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 17:54:27 GMT
Fun times in the Oval Office...
Yamiche Alcindor...
”White House reporters coming out of the meeting between President Trump, Senator Chuck Schumer and Rep Nancy Pelosi look stunned. I'm told all three were yelling at each other, sparring openly and accusing each other of mischaracterizing comments.”
“Reporters are watching the playback now.
President Trump said: I'd like to not have a government shutdown but border security is a top priority.”
"Border security is extremely important and we have to take care of border security," Trump said.”
”President Trump in meeting: "We are going to talk about the wall...And I'll tell you it's a tough issue because we are on opposite sides."
“Nancy Pelosi: I don't think we should have a debate in front of reporters...There are no votes for a wall.
Trump: If I needed the votes in the House I would have them...I need 10 Democratic Senators but I can't get it.”
”Trump talking over Pelosi: "We need border security. We need border security."
Nancy Pelosi: "Of course we do."
Trump: "We need the wall....Chuck did you want to say something?"
Chuck: The WaPo gives you pinocchios for misstatements on the wall.”
”Chuck: "We want to do what we did last year...Let's debate in private."
Trump: "See we get along...We need border security and the wall is part of border security."
”President Trump repeatedly interrupted and talked over Nancy Pelosi as she made the case that they should continue debating in private and not in front of reporters.
Pelosi: This is not transparency when we can't agree on the same set of facts.
Trump: "We need border security."
”Trump: "Nancy is in a situation where it is not easy for her to talk."
Pelosi quickly defended herself: Please don't mischaracterize the strength I bring as the leader of the House Dems who just had a big victory.
Pelosi adds, "We need to have an evidence based conversation."
”Pres. Trump: "I am proud to shut down the government for border security...I will be the one of shutdown the government."
Trump adds that he won't blame Democrats for the shutdown if he shuts down for border security.”
”It is clear that Pres Trump believes he has the political capital to shut down the govt over one of his signature issues: The wall and immigration. He is betting that criminalizing immigrants and pitting them against Americans benefits him politically even with a shutdown.”
”Reminder:
A government shutdown would impact: Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Justice, Homeland Security, Interior, State, Transportation and Housing and Urban Development, as well as several smaller agencies.”
”I asked Leader Pelosi and Sen Schumer just now at WH whether they were able to have the “evidence based” conversation that Pelosi repeatedly said she wanted to have with Trump. Both gave me stern looks and Pelosi said, “That’s another subject.” I’ll take that as a no from both.”
”The summation of today: After shouting matches, we are where we were yesterday. Both Sen Schumer and Leader Pelosi say they will only offer Pres Trump the same amount of money for border security as last year ($1.3 billion). Trump says he is happy to shut down the govt.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:00:19 GMT
Josh Marshall...
”Good Lord, Chuck baits Trump into "proud to shut the government down" quotes, also Trump changes face Pantone from Grifty Orange to Boily Red on live video.”
And Pence is just sitting there looking like the fool he is.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 11, 2018 18:03:52 GMT
And may I also say how very much it grates on my nerves that he insists everyone address him as Mr. President or Mr. Trump, yet he addresses everyone else by their first names? Congressional leaders, world leaders, Cabinet members ... could he please show them the same respect he insists on for himself?
Also, apparently he thinks if he insistently says “excuse me, excuse me” as he interrupts others, that makes it okay.
He is such a repulsive person.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:09:11 GMT
The Hoarse Whisperer..
”This Trump-Pelosi-Schumer argument demonstrates exactly why Republicans hate Nancy Pelosi with a passion.
She is utterly tenacious, unyielding, unflappable and CANNOT be bullied.
Her non-reactivity is also a narcissist’s worst nightmare. It strips them of all power.”
And I will add the right doesn’t like her because she is a woman who is “utterly tenacious, unyielding, unflappable and CANNOT be bullied”. If it was a man they would celebrate these traits.
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Post by sabrinae on Dec 11, 2018 18:12:31 GMT
Someone is watching Fox News.. ”James Comey’s behind closed doors testimony reveals that “there was not evidence of Campaign Collusion” with Russia when he left the FBI. In other words, the Witch Hunt is illegal and should never have been started!” ”Former FBI Director James Comey under fire for his testimony acknowledging he knew that the Democrats paid for that phony Trump Dossier.” @loudobbs Details on Tuesday night.” 1. The Steel Dossier has not been disproved. 2. So what that the Democrats paid for opposition research? I suspect if the “outside world” got a look at internal emails and memos of the GOP, like they did with the Democrats, you would find pretty much the same thing they are accusing the left of doing. So what that the Democrats paid for opposition research? I suspect if the “outside world” got a look at internal emails and memos of the GOP, like they did with the Democrats, you would find pretty much the same thing they are accusing the left of doing.That’s not the issue. The contention is that the Steele dossier was used as the basis for obtaining the FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page and others, and no one informed the FISA judge through several renewals that the FBI could not corroborate it. Additionally, no one informed the judge that the dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign (although the request did have a footnote that the origin was such). Do NOT get the impression I’m defending Lou Dobbs or Fox here. I’m merely stating their contention. It is up to the FISA judge to determine if there was fault. But, what’s been released of the FISA warrants and afadavits acknowledge where the information comes from. If the judge didn’t read that it’s on him/her, but I would guess those warrants were scrutinized pretty closely given who was being looked at.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 11, 2018 18:24:41 GMT
The Hoarse Whisperer.. ”This Trump-Pelosi-Schumer argument demonstrates exactly why Republicans hate Nancy Pelosi with a passion. She is utterly tenacious, unyielding, unflappable and CANNOT be bullied. Her non-reactivity is also a narcissist’s worst nightmare. It strips them of all power.” And I will add the right doesn’t like her because she is a woman who is “utterly tenacious, unyielding, unflappable and CANNOT be bullied”. If it was a man they would celebrate these traits. Again, I say, go Nancy. The republicans advertised threats that any vote for any democrat was a vote to make ( dun dun dun ) Nancy Pelosi speaker of the house. The people have spoken, apparently it is not the horror to the American people that the R’s thought it would be. I don’t even like Nancy Pelosi and all the threats & warning were simply not a deterrent to me. I was like, yea, and? The problem with that is? And if Nancy Pelosi standing toe to toe with Trump & not flinching bothers him that’s just gravy on top of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:24:42 GMT
Greg Sargent...
“Trump, to Schumer:
"If we don't get what we want one way or the other ... I will shut down the government. I am proud to shut down the government for border security. ... I will be the one to shut it down. I'm not gonna blame you for it."
Of course trump will blame the Democrats if they shut down the government. Silly man to think anyone would believe him saying he wouldn’t.
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