flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 18, 2019 17:39:37 GMT
Yes, the newscast is real. The Russians have been pretty stoked recently about their victories. Keep in mind - that the entire time Trump has been lying about ties with Russians, the entire time that Cohen was being directed to lie about it - the Russian side of the equation knew the truth. Putin could release the information any time he pleased. It was never about the pee tape, the pee tape is a minor distraction. It's about the fact that Putin controls Trump because he knows the truth. Trump is compromised and can be manipulated into doing anything Putin likes. As the old saying goes "the truth will set you free." Until the truth is released - the entire truth - Trump will continue to be under Putin's control. It's up to us to decide whether or not it's acceptable to have a foreign leader with that much power over our president*. Yeah, but am I the only one still wondering what exactly Putin has the trump would KNOW would be that harmful? This is a man who thinks he does no wrong and that if he does, it doesn't matter and if it does matter he won't be caught, and if he's caught, he won't be punished or face consequences. I just...what in the world of all the fucks does Putin know that scares trump THAT badly?! I haven't yet found the one I was thinking of, but a quick google found these. I'll keep looking. www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article210477439.htmlwww.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article157640179.html
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 17:44:39 GMT
This is awesome. This is one of the many reasons he will get re-elected. Dear Madame Speaker, Due to the Shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt and Afghanistan has been postponed. We will reschedule this seven-day excursion when the Shutdown is over, In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate. I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the Shutdown. Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative. I look forward to seeing you soon and even more forward to watching our open and dangerous Southern Border finally receive the attention, funding, and security it so desperately deserves! Sincerely, Donald J. Trump Can't discern if you're being jocose. If 45 isn't in jail or killed for treason, he'll be placed in the time-out room with other tantrum-throwing-toddlers who act out of immediate fear & hatred. What a joke!
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2019 17:46:07 GMT
This is awesome. This is one of the many reasons he will get re-elected. Dear Madame Speaker, Due to the Shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt and Afghanistan has been postponed. We will reschedule this seven-day excursion when the Shutdown is over, In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate. I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the Shutdown. Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative. I look forward to seeing you soon and even more forward to watching our open and dangerous Southern Border finally receive the attention, funding, and security it so desperately deserves! Sincerely, Donald J. Trump Can't discern if you're being jocose. If 45 isn't in jail or killed for treason, he'll be placed in the time-out room with other tantrum-throwing-toddlers who act out of immediate fear & hatred. What a joke! It’s a troll. Shows up only to troll.
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Post by thundergal on Jan 18, 2019 17:46:17 GMT
flute4peace it's okay! You don't have to look for me. Thanks for sharing those. There's a good chance I've already read them. But I will read again to refresh my memory. I'm still having a hard time believing that there is something that could be known about trump that HE would find so threatening.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 17:47:10 GMT
Paul Waldman... ”According to this story, Trump instructed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about his contacts with Russia: buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonl… If true that's absolute grounds for impeachment. But Trump will deny it, and how do you prove Cohen is telling the truth?” Because with all the lies trump tells how can you believe anything he says? Here's my sick thought about the Moscow/Trump $hithole: I have a sick feeling that it's already been built, sans the Trump branding all over it & that they're keeping it on the down-low whilest laughing at the U.S. (and having Trump line his pockets with even more blood $). Just a thought.............
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Post by dewryce on Jan 18, 2019 17:49:30 GMT
flute4peace it's okay! You don't have to look for me. Thanks for sharing those. There's a good chance I've already read them. But I will read again to refresh my memory. I'm still having a hard time believing that there is something that could be known about trump that HE would find so threatening. Something that would embarrass him personally is my guess.
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Post by thundergal on Jan 18, 2019 17:49:50 GMT
Paul Waldman... ”According to this story, Trump instructed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about his contacts with Russia: buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonl… If true that's absolute grounds for impeachment. But Trump will deny it, and how do you prove Cohen is telling the truth?” Because with all the lies trump tells how can you believe anything he says? Here's my sick thought about the Moscow/Trump $hithole: I have a sick feeling that it's already been built, sans the Trump branding all over it & that they're keeping it on the down-low whilest laughing at the U.S. (and having Trump line his pockets with even more blood $). Just a thought............. ooooohhhhhhh...intriguing!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 17:50:35 GMT
The visual on this is just delightful. I’m not a SNL watcher but I really hope it ends up there. Ooh, it gets better!!! Cohen used a Walmart bag to stuff it in and also gave him a "prized authentic" glove from an MMA star. Niceeeeeeeee. Did he skim off the remainder of the payment for himself and just throw in the glove? LOL!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 18, 2019 17:50:49 GMT
The point is that dt and his company take in MILLIONS of dollars in CASH for overpriced properties.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 18, 2019 17:51:04 GMT
The oligarchs have owned Trump for years due to real estate deals/money laundering. There's a really good article that came out about it a year or so ago. I don't know if I can find it, but will try. So you think that's mostly what it is? Money laundering? Do you feel that's enough to keep trump in line? I also know I should consider that trump is a weak piece of shit and so if he thinks Putin is some amazing god, then that's even more reason for him to want to please Putin. It's enough to put him away for a very long time. Here's another article, although still not the one I'm remembering. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/16/craig_unger_untold_story_of_trump_russia_partnership_laundered_money_via_his_real_estate.html
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Post by thundergal on Jan 18, 2019 17:53:37 GMT
Something embarrassing for him personally feels more likely than something illegal, for sure. To me, anyway. I just really don't think he can imagine himself ever facing consequences for illegal activity.
I wonder also if trump feels that he really would lose some of his base if they found out he didn't have all the money he claims to have. That loss of that whole "if trump can be a self-made rich man, then one day I , too, can be rich and successful" factor could hurt him in the polls.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 18, 2019 17:55:10 GMT
flute4peace it's okay! You don't have to look for me. Thanks for sharing those. There's a good chance I've already read them. But I will read again to refresh my memory. I'm still having a hard time believing that there is something that could be known about trump that HE would find so threatening. The only thing I can think of is that he children are involved, as well. That seems to be the only thing that can get to him.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Jan 18, 2019 18:00:09 GMT
Something embarrassing for him personally feels more likely than something illegal, for sure. To me, anyway. I just really don't think he can imagine himself ever facing consequences for illegal activity.
I wonder also if trump feels that he really would lose some of his base if they found out he didn't have all the money he claims to have. That loss of that whole "if trump can be a self-made rich man, then one day I , too, can be rich and successful" factor could hurt him in the polls. Yeah, that. Remember during the campaign when he said that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and people would still vote for him?
What an omen that turned out to be.
Every time one more sinister thing comes out about him, I can't help but think of Obama being raked over the coals because he wore flip flops getting off AirForce 1 when he was on vacation in Hawaii. Or because he wore a tan suit. Or because he was photographed in the Oval Office with his shirt sleeves rolled up.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 18, 2019 18:10:55 GMT
Something embarrassing for him personally feels more likely than something illegal, for sure. To me, anyway. I just really don't think he can imagine himself ever facing consequences for illegal activity.
I wonder also if trump feels that he really would lose some of his base if they found out he didn't have all the money he claims to have. That loss of that whole "if trump can be a self-made rich man, then one day I , too, can be rich and successful" factor could hurt him in the polls. Yeah, that. Remember during the campaign when he said that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and people would still vote for him?
What an omen that turned out to be.
Every time one more sinister thing comes out about him, I can't help but think of Obama being raked over the coals because he wore flip flops getting off AirForce 1 when he was on vacation in Hawaii. Or because he wore a tan suit. Or because he was photographed in the Oval Office with his shirt sleeves rolled up.
This would go to his ego, though. These investments by the Russians pretty much saved his business through the recession, and if the money laundering were proven, it would dispel the myth that he's such a successful businessman. He can't have that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 18:16:55 GMT
Something embarrassing for him personally feels more likely than something illegal, for sure. To me, anyway. I just really don't think he can imagine himself ever facing consequences for illegal activity. I wonder also if trump feels that he really would lose some of his base if they found out he didn't have all the money he claims to have. That loss of that whole "if trump can be a self-made rich man, then one day I , too, can be rich and successful" factor could hurt him in the polls. 1. This whole "self-made rich man" routine is really growing thin! C'mon! Who the fvck believes that anymore? *He could have lived nicely on the $$ his Daddy handed over to him, but he kept wanting more & making HORRIBLE investments and had HORRIBLE ideas that didn't pan out. Daddy had to keep bailing him out to keep face (i.e.: the casinos, etc...). DJT is a horribly stupid fvck-up who can't do anything right to save his large orange ass. Whomever chooses to buy into this "Look at him--he's created SO much to rake in billions of $$" crap is not living in reality. 2. DJT has had some of the lowest schemes you could imagine to try to increase his bottom line. Maybe his fat mouth overshared with Putin, and Putin learned the dirty details of Trump/Epstein and the underage girls in the 1980's - now??? Maybe they learned about DJT's "modeling" company and the reason he wanted the beauty paegents?? Maybe they planned Melania's first trip to the U.S., where DJT instantly became enamored of her and helped her get a false "Einstein" Visa and then marry him to stay in the Country, all the while reporting back to Putin? Just a thought........................... If so, Putin has a lifetime of very embarrassing details to keep DJT on a leash forever!
ABOUT COHEN: It was a known rumor that Michael Cohen taped almost everything he could between himself and DJT for his own safety. Yes, he was slimy to begin with, but this was an entirely different level of crimes...... We shall see!
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jan 18, 2019 18:34:39 GMT
It's money. Everything Trump cares about has to do with his net worth. His presidency has been one huge money grab.
Putin has a better idea of how much money Trump has. It's not as much as he likes to tell people he has, that's why we haven't seen his tax returns.
Trump's net worth is likely in the negative, once you take out the Russian loans. Putin knows about everything that goes on in Russia, including who is owed money by Trump.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 18, 2019 18:50:17 GMT
Paul Waldman... ”According to this story, Trump instructed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about his contacts with Russia: buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonl… If true that's absolute grounds for impeachment. But Trump will deny it, and how do you prove Cohen is telling the truth?” Because with all the lies trump tells how can you believe anything he says? True. But, Cohen is a known liar, too. But from reading the buzzfeed story, their sources do not depend on cohens testimony, either. Which seems good. I don’t think Mueller is stupid—he of all people wouldn’t take someone’s “word” for anything without having the receipts. Funnily enough, trump IS that stupid. He thinks Mueller is just going by Cohen’s verbal statements.
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Post by carly1030 on Jan 18, 2019 19:14:15 GMT
Can't discern if you're being jocose. If 45 isn't in jail or killed for treason, he'll be placed in the time-out room with other tantrum-throwing-toddlers who act out of immediate fear & hatred. What a joke! It’s a troll. Shows up only to troll. It doesn't matter when any Trump supporter shows up. It will always be a troll to you. That's why most here don't bother with your "scary Trump political" threads. Sorry to inform you but he will win the next election also. All the people who constantly bash Trump will be devastated again, Trump supporters will be happy to watch y'all cry again.
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Post by lucyg on Jan 18, 2019 19:20:21 GMT
It’s a troll. Shows up only to troll. It doesn't matter when any Trump supporter shows up. It will always be a troll to you. That's why most here don't bother with your "scary Trump political" threads. Sorry to inform you but he will win the next election also. All the people who constantly bash Trump will be devastated again, Trump supporters will be happy to watch y'all cry again.
That right there, folks. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Trump cultists hate liberals more than they love America. ETA and I didn’t call you a troll, Carly. I remember your story and I’ve always tried to be polite to you.
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Post by Merge on Jan 18, 2019 19:55:47 GMT
I'm sorry for anyone who is happy to watch others cry. Namaste, carly1030. Be well.
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Post by peano on Jan 18, 2019 19:59:26 GMT
When cornered or defied or denied or shamed, the president of the United States gets petty. In his single-minded compulsion to indulge his own pettiness, he considers nothing else. Only his own satisfaction. I’m still disappointed, but no longer surprised, that his paid minions “Atta boy” him. I’ve moved far beyond disappointment in his base. These are the people we live among, and they keep showing us who they are. They could be somewhat reined in, though... ...but they’re not. Because the truly frightening piece is the cooperation of GOP legislators. In their zeal to prevail, they daily indulge this man’s pettiness and dishonor. None of them is a disordered narcissist, yet they publicly indulge one. And they neglect their sworn duty by continuing to inflame - or at least mollycoddle - the president’s base, no matter what they think privately...and by continuing their years-long efforts to subvert the legislative process. Theirs will be the bigger crime - and hopefully the deepest shame. Yes. 1000X this.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 18, 2019 20:10:03 GMT
I'm sorry for anyone who is happy to watch others cry. Namaste, carly1030 . Be well. I get what you're saying, but I think I'm more disturbed by the thought of someone who is happy to watch others cry, rather than being sorry for them.
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Post by Merge on Jan 18, 2019 20:19:28 GMT
I'm sorry for anyone who is happy to watch others cry. Namaste, carly1030 . Be well. I get what you're saying, but I think I'm more disturbed by the thought of someone who is happy to watch others cry, rather than being sorry for them. I'm 16 days into a 30-day yoga challenge. I am zen as fuck.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2019 20:22:43 GMT
I get what you're saying, but I think I'm more disturbed by the thought of someone who is happy to watch others cry, rather than being sorry for them. I'm 16 days into a 30-day yoga challenge. I am zen as fuck. 😂😂😂 “I am zen as fuck” This made me give an unladylike snort of laughter at my desk. Lucky, I work from home. I need to get back into yoga.
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msladibug
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Post by msladibug on Jan 18, 2019 20:26:07 GMT
he's aged 20 years.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2019 20:29:35 GMT
It’s a troll. Shows up only to troll. It doesn't matter when any Trump supporter shows up. It will always be a troll to you. That's why most here don't bother with your "scary Trump political" threads. Sorry to inform you but he will win the next election also. All the people who constantly bash Trump will be devastated again, Trump supporters will be happy to watch y'all cry again. That isn’t true at all. I have plenty of people I don’t agree with on here and on Facebook politically, that I can engage happily with on other things. I don’t alway agree with people I mostly agree politically on, either. I characterize people who comment in the vein you have, as trolls. Whether you mean it or not (although I’m assuming you do) you post it simply to provoke a reaction, nothing else. That is the very definition of trolling. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 20:34:34 GMT
Reuters...
“U.S. consumer sentiment at two-year low, manufacturing rebounds”
Wasn’t trump bragging about high consumer sentiment not to long ago?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 20:43:45 GMT
trump... ”Border rancher: “We’ve found prayer rugs out here. It’s unreal.” Washington Examiner People coming across the Southern Border from many countries, some of which would be a big surprise.” I know next to nothing about Muslims, but I find it very hard to believe that they would leave their prayer rugs littering the landscape. Ummmmm....we generally roll up the rugs and take them with us. We don’t have a “ziplock baggie” stash of rugs.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 18, 2019 21:08:38 GMT
trump... ”Border rancher: “We’ve found prayer rugs out here. It’s unreal.” Washington Examiner People coming across the Southern Border from many countries, some of which would be a big surprise.” I know next to nothing about Muslims, but I find it very hard to believe that they would leave their prayer rugs littering the landscape. Ummmmm....we generally roll up the rugs and take them with us. We don’t have a “ziplock baggie” stash of rugs.Heh. Good one. I’m thinking our cultural landscape is littered with the discarded souls of too many American Christians trying to flee the world of common sense and decency. ”Unreal,” indeed.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2019 21:19:04 GMT
True. But, Cohen is a known liar, too. But from reading the buzzfeed story, their sources do not depend on cohens testimony, either. Which seems good. I don’t think Mueller is stupid—he of all people wouldn’t take someone’s “word” for anything without having the receipts. Funnily enough, trump IS that stupid. He thinks Mueller is just going by Cohen’s verbal statements. Oh Mueller is not. He is more than competent and has other sources, for sure. And neither is Buzzfeed IMO, to stake their reputation on it. I really do think where there is smoke, there is a big ass fire, in this case. I was just acknowledging that Cohen himself, does have a bit of a credibility problem.
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