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Post by Zee on Jan 27, 2019 2:04:32 GMT
I want to watch it but I am actually scared to. I am worried that while the tapes may seem boring that his words will actually dig down deep into my subconscious and I’ll be stuck thinking about it for days, esp while I’m trying to sleep. Well I can tell you to rest assured at least for the first episode, he didn't say anything at all bizarre. He just sounded like he was writing his autobiography and painting a picture of a charmed childhood. Showing us how he wanted us to see him. The background info is interesting. I hope they will interview some more people who knew him, like an ex girlfriend (though I can understand why they might not want to participate). I think it will get darker as the episodes progress but so far it's just another interesting crime show to me.
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Post by DEX on Jan 27, 2019 2:52:01 GMT
I watched 1 episode so far. I REALLY want to hear from the woman he married while in prison.
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Post by cakediva on Jan 27, 2019 12:49:42 GMT
There is also a movie coming out starring Zac Efron as Ted Bundy. My DD showed us the trailer last night - Zac does an amazing job.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 27, 2019 13:01:42 GMT
No. I remember the Ted Buddy case, the manhunts, and his execution all too well. It’s just too creepy to relive.
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Post by ashley on Jan 27, 2019 15:52:17 GMT
I binged the entire thing last night. And in summary: WTF??
All of his killings and captures were before I was born, so I only knew the most basic details of his crimes. The show was very well done, I thought... and not gory or creepy or anything more disturbing beyond the details of his crimes that we already know. It really wasn’t graphic in any way. But seeing the footage of him... from the news, and courtroom was fascinating. I mean, I can’t believe what he got away with, not only his actual crimes but afterwards too. It certainly was a different world back then?
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Post by Zee on Jan 28, 2019 0:59:33 GMT
There is also a movie coming out starring Zac Efron as Ted Bundy. My DD showed us the trailer last night - Zac does an amazing job. He could totally lure me into his car with a cast on his arm. He could probably lure me into his car wearing a sign that said I AM A SERIAL KILLER. I love him!
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 28, 2019 4:05:29 GMT
I binged the entire thing last night. And in summary: WTF?? All of his killings and captures were before I was born, so I only knew the most basic details of his crimes. The show was very well done, I thought... and not gory or creepy or anything more disturbing beyond the details of his crimes that we already know. It really wasn’t graphic in any way. But seeing the footage of him... from the news, and courtroom was fascinating. I mean, I can’t believe what he got away with, not only his actual crimes but afterwards too. It certainly was a different world back then? absolutely. The fact that different jurisdictions didn't know what was happening in other parts made it easy to slip through the cracks. If he had targeted runaways or prostitutes or other people without close ties, it probably would have taken much longer to realize the problem
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Post by mom26 on Jan 28, 2019 5:04:36 GMT
Yes
I thought her dd was finishing her last book, but Ann passed in July 2015 and I haven't heard anything else about that book. I can't believe it's been that long already.
Ann was hands down the best true crime writer. And it started with The Stranger Beside Me, which is amazing because she actually knew Ted, and she walks you through the process as it gradually becomes clear that he was THE infamous “Ted”. I’ve read all her books. Another two that stand out is Small Sacrifices and a book about a mom of toddler quadruplets who was killed by her ex. I was living in Oregon, with little ones of my own, when a news flash on TV announced that a man had horribly injured Diane Downs’ 3 children in her car, while she got a minor injury. I turned right to my husband and said she did it. I knew in my heart no mother would stand by and let a stranger shoot her little children without trying harder to stop him. I know I’d have died trying to stop someone from hurting my kids! So I followed the long convoluted trial and story in the Oregonian, and then read the book right after it was published. For the other story: Ann was at a book signing when a woman told her, “ you have to tell my sister’s story”, and described the events. Ann said it was too similar to a story she had already written about. The sister told her that before she died, the mom of the quadruplets said my ex will kill me one day, and when he does, I want Ann rule to tell my story. Moved by this, Ann did indeed, and it was a good one. This one also took place in Oregon, at least a lot of the story. It is called Every Breath You Take. Ms Rule’s books always tell the story of the victims, never glorify the criminals, are not prurient, and usually give the satisfaction of the killers being caught and convicted. A former cop, she admired good police work and the dedicated men and women who work for justice. I’m sad that she passed several years ago and I’m still looking for another true crime writer of her caliber. I became a fan of Ann Rule in my late teens and I'm now in my 50s. She is (was) by far the best true crime writer that has ever been and I've read every book she's ever written. Often more than once. She delves deeply into the backgrounds of the killers she writes about and really delivers the story of the evil that they were and their escalation. Her respect and attention to law enforcement that worked so hard to catch them are my favorite parts of her books, though. I am truly fascinated with how crimes are solved and she pays tremendous service to their part in the story, too. There was a show a few years ago about Diane Downs' surviving daughter, Christie, and how life had turned out for her. She'd had a hard road. But, there was a segment where she met with Ann Rule and it was very touching. Back to Ted Bundy, there is a show called Killer Kids that ran an episode called 'Peeping Theodore and The Six'. It covers the story of what is believed to be Ted's first murder. A little 8 yo girl, Ann Marie Burr, who was a neighbor. He was 14 at the time. He never fully confessed and there was never enough evidence to convict him, but he was under suspicion for many, many years and many involved feel strongly that he did kill her. He was evil from moment he became more than a thought.
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Post by Just T on Jan 28, 2019 5:42:02 GMT
Back to Ted Bundy, there is a show called Killer Kids that ran an episode called 'Peeping Theodore and The Six'. It covers the story of what is believed to be Ted's first murder. A little 8 yo girl, Ann Marie Burr, who was a neighbor. He was 14 at the time. He never fully confessed and there was never enough evidence to convict him, but he was under suspicion for many, many years and many involved feel strongly that he did kill her. I have not heard about that before.
Such a horrible, disgusting human being he was.
I was surprised at the end of the show when he talked about killing women in California and Idaho as well. Such a shame that there are so many families out there who have no idea what happened to their girls.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 28, 2019 5:51:05 GMT
The Zac Efron movie debuted at Sundance this week, and a couple of people I spoke to that were at the screening said it was very good. It's told more from one of his ex-girlfriend's perspective (played by Lily Collins) and I believe the director is the same man who directed the documentary.
(On a side note, my teen daughter is extremely excited that Zac is here for the film festival, but doesn't seem to care AT ALL that Jason Momoa and Gerard Butler are here, too. Where did I go wrong?!?)
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Post by Just T on Jan 28, 2019 5:55:14 GMT
The Zac Efron movie debuted at Sundance this week, and a couple of people I spoke to that were at the screening said it was very good. It's told more from one of his ex-girlfriend's perspective (played by Lily Collins) and I believe the director is the same man who directed the documentary. I look forward to watching that! I do like Zac Efron. Is the ex girlfriend the one who originally called the police with concerns about her boyfriend? Liz, I think was her name?
Like someone else said earlier in this thread, I would love to hear something from the perspective of the woman who was so convinced he was innocent and then married him.
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Post by mom26 on Jan 28, 2019 6:01:16 GMT
Back to Ted Bundy, there is a show called Killer Kids that ran an episode called 'Peeping Theodore and The Six'. It covers the story of what is believed to be Ted's first murder. A little 8 yo girl, Ann Marie Burr, who was a neighbor. He was 14 at the time. He never fully confessed and there was never enough evidence to convict him, but he was under suspicion for many, many years and many involved feel strongly that he did kill her. I have not heard about that before.
Such a horrible, disgusting human being he was.
I was surprised at the end of the show when he talked about killing women in California and Idaho as well. Such a shame that there are so many families out there who have no idea what happened to their girls.
There are so many found victims and so many more never found all around the country, and the families will never know what happened to their child/family member. I believe that is the worst torture of all - never knowing. The killing of Ann Marie Burr happened in Tacoma, WA. If she was killed by Ted Bundy, no one knows for sure if she was truly his first. We do know it was not his last. There may very well be other victims of his evil in that area and we will never know. Their families will never know. It's really too much to wrap the brain around.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 28, 2019 6:04:51 GMT
The Zac Efron movie debuted at Sundance this week, and a couple of people I spoke to that were at the screening said it was very good. It's told more from one of his ex-girlfriend's perspective (played by Lily Collins) and I believe the director is the same man who directed the documentary. I look forward to watching that! I do like Zac Efron. Is the ex girlfriend the one who originally called the police with concerns about her boyfriend? Liz, I think was her name?
Like someone else said earlier in this thread, I would love to hear something from the perspective of the woman who was so convinced he was innocent and then married him.
Yes, that's the one! She was also LDS, which led to him joining the church, and I would guess was a big part in him going to law school in Utah.
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Post by Just T on Jan 28, 2019 6:12:01 GMT
I look forward to watching that! I do like Zac Efron. Is the ex girlfriend the one who originally called the police with concerns about her boyfriend? Liz, I think was her name?
Like someone else said earlier in this thread, I would love to hear something from the perspective of the woman who was so convinced he was innocent and then married him.
Yes, that's the one! She was also LDS, which led to him joining the church, and I would guess was a big part in him going to law school in Utah. I will definitely watch! They aired clips from her, and I couldn't help but feel sorry for her. I can't imagine how she must have felt knowing that she and her daughter were so close to such a heinous, evil man.
Hearing him on those tapes talking about himself in the third person gave me chills.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 28, 2019 6:36:07 GMT
I will definitely watch! They aired clips from her, and I couldn't help but feel sorry for her. I can't imagine how she must have felt knowing that she and her daughter were so close to such a heinous, evil man.
Hearing him on those tapes talking about himself in the third person gave me chills.
I'm looking forward to seeing it, too. They dated for so long, even after she reported him to the police! At one point, they were going to get married, but he got upset with her and tore up the marriage license. I cannot even imagine how she felt after it all came out.
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Post by valincal on Jan 28, 2019 7:01:45 GMT
Just finished watching it and I’ve still got goosebumps. I need to cleanse my brain with something lighthearted. 😬
I bet his daughter has completely changed her identity. I can’t imagine growing up and finding out who her father really was and what he did.
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Post by Jockscrap on Jan 28, 2019 7:39:25 GMT
I’ve binged the series over the last couple of days. I Googled, like a normally do after watching or listening to a true crime programme, to get more background and was really appalled by a lot of what I read. There is so much more to the murders than they go in to in the documentary.
The number of victims is just so high, it is hard to wrap my head around each one of these young women and girls being a much loved person in many people’s lives. His acts must have affected thousands of people. There will still be so many parents, siblings and friends of these victims around today. I wonder how they feel about the documentary.
One of the reasons I find these crime programmes so interesting is being reminded of what life looked like back in the seventies and early eighties. It goes beyond interest in the subject matter itself. I was a child in the seventies and I love seeing the clothes and hairstyles, the old cars, technology and offices. I also like seeing the age progression of the folk interviewed. In particular, in this series, the Florida sheriff caught my eye as he was so handsome and knew it back in the day, and still very much commanded the screen and loved telling his story again for the camera in the documentary. The Anchorman style hairstyles and bad combovers are such a part of the era and remind me of old cop shows on the telly and a magazine show we had in the UK called Nationwide.
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Post by roberta on Jan 28, 2019 8:54:15 GMT
I have no plans to watch. Even though I am interested in the psychology of crime (all psychology actually) I am sensitive to awful stuff and don’t get enough sleep already. Don’t want to scare myself!
ETA: I remember some of the murders before they were solved and his getting caught so I don’t want to be reminded of all that.
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Post by Zee on Jan 28, 2019 14:21:20 GMT
I finished it all and there were many things I didn't know about. I was a kid in the 70s and had heard of him, and knew he killed young women, but that was all I really knew.
I wouldn't say this show was creepy or nightmare-inducing, but then I watch the ID Channel all the time.
I was really disgusted by the wife who had a child with him while he was in prison. What a thing to do to a little girl, give her that for a father. And she already had a son. Sick bitch
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Post by myshelly on Jan 31, 2019 2:50:37 GMT
I’m almost done with the first episode.
It’s so boring. Does it get more interesting? I’m falling asleep.
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Post by theshyone on Feb 8, 2019 15:44:56 GMT
Just finished watching it and I’ve still got goosebumps. I need to cleanse my brain with something lighthearted. 😬 I bet his daughter has completely changed her identity. I can’t imagine growing up and finding out who her father really was and what he did. BKT daughter was on Dr Phil yesterday talking about Dennis being Daddy not BTK. She has written a book about being the daughter of a serial killer.
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Post by kristi521 on Feb 8, 2019 16:18:50 GMT
I’m almost done with the first episode. It’s so boring. Does it get more interesting? I’m falling asleep. Yes, I think the 3rd and 4th episodes are the most interesting.
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