The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jan 25, 2019 21:54:38 GMT
I have seen this article link to article posted a few times on Facebook. I responded to someone last night, and it wasn't a "bad" discussion, but I could tell the person who posted it was a little annoyed by me. Something about the tone of this article bothers me. The author does acknowledge, right at the end, that trying matters (I do agree), but most of it makes it sound like the BEST way to parent is to go to EVERY game your kid is in, no matter what. Her parents had "demanding" jobs and THEY were able to do it, so everyone should be able to do it if they just try hard enough. First, this is SO full of unacknowledged privilege, I can barely handle it, but if I just ignore that large elephant, it still rubs me wrong. Part of it is the responses I read. So self congratulatory. I am a hockey mom (only one of my twin boys). I am not wired, by nature, to be a "sporty" mom. I am working really hard faking it until I make it. I have partially "made it", but I am also a goalie mom, so I don't know I will ever LOVE the game as the other players' moms---but that is a post for another day. Travel hockey is a part-time job. I am trying not be resentful of the time it requires. Last year (first year Squirts), I missed a couple scrimmages and a game (out of about 28 or so). This year I have missed two scrimmages and probably will not miss any more. Yes, I resented having a tournament on Thanksgiving weekend this year. Yes, I feel bad for my other son who is not in hockey. We try to give him attention too and let him get a bigger birthday present due to all we spend on the other one, but it is hard. Last year, the game I missed was because my non-hockey son was in a play. My DH and my other son missed the performance due to hockey. That pretty much sucked all the way around. I admit, I don't understand people who don't go to any or only one or two games a season (unless they work during that time), but on the other hand, I think it is OK to miss from time to time (or even half the time depending on the life situation). Kids love to know they are important and you care and this shows it, but they also need to know that the world does not begin and end with them, and I think it is judgmental and unrealistic to put this additional martyrdom on parents. Moderation, moderation, moderation..... What are your thoughts on this? _____________________________________________________________________ Article: When I was growing up, both of my parents had demanding jobs. We lived in the suburbs and they worked in the city — my mom a court reporter, my dad a lawyer. They would endure the usually long and annoying commute back and forth every day, and many nights they'd still have some work to do when they got home. But while I know that now, my sister and I almost never felt that when we were younger. All we knew was that they were there . . . for every single thing. At every game, I would search for their faces in the stands. When I found them, I knew I mattered. I knew my dreams mattered. The big sport in my family has always been basketball. My dad played in college, and I pretty much attempted to dribble a ball as soon as I could walk. I begged to be in an endless amount of little leagues, went to basketball camp in the Summer, and played for my school's team in the Winter. When I got to high school, it became my top priority (and also took up most of my free time). And throughout my 15-plus years of playing basketball, my parents were at every single game. Every. One. While I always loved seeing their faces in the stands, I didn't realize until I got older just how hard it must have been for them to do that. I know they must have had to leave work early a lot, endure long drives to faraway schools, fight their way through notoriously bad Midwestern snowstorms, and forget any personal stress to enthusiastically cheer me on. And since my sister played too, and we sometimes had games on the same day, they would divide and conquer to make sure we both had one of them there. No matter what was going on in their lives, they always, without fail, made being there for us a priority. It could have been the championship game during my senior year or a scrimmage in a just-for-fun Summer league — they were there. When I look back on it now, having them at every game mattered more to me than I can probably ever explain. I wanted to show my dad that I listened to his tips during our Saturday morning practices in the driveway. I wanted to show my mom that I was as dedicated to the game as I told her I was. I wanted to prove that I was better at hustling down the court than my sister (sorry, sis — love you). I wanted to make them proud. At every game, I would search for their faces in the stands. When I found them, I knew I mattered. I knew my dreams, no matter how silly or far-fetched they may have seemed, mattered. Whenever I would score points or play good defense, I would look up at my dad for his thumbs-up signal and listen for my mom's slightly embarrassing roar. Just like in every other aspect of my life, my parents proved I could rely on them. And that feeling has stuck with me throughout my life. I know it isn't always possible or easy to show up and be at every game, but parents, even if you think it's no big deal (and even if your kids say it's no big deal), it matters. And if you can't be there, trying matters. I don't remember a lot of the birthday gifts I got growing up or cookies I ate before dinner, but I vividly remember my mom and dad, in their work suits and jackets, walking into every game I ever played.
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Post by cakediva on Jan 25, 2019 22:00:38 GMT
I work in the wedding industry. Which means I work weekends - Saturdays/deliveries/cake pickups for my non-wedding orders.
DS plays basketball. Rep basketball -which is local weekly practices, and only tournaments for games. Tournaments fall on weekends.
If they are closer than an hour away, I will drive to games myself and then we have two cars there - for an afternoon game. But sometimes, there is just no way I can get there. DH goes.
And that's ok.
Not all of our team parents are able to make it either - one works only weekends, one works shift work.
And that's ok too.
He also plays high school basketball - 2 games a week plus tournaments. I try my best to get to every single school game, since I work from home and those are easier to get to. I've missed a few tournament Saturday mornings.
And that's ok.
We really do like at least one of us to be there cheering him on. But sometimes that isn't possible.
He's still alive, his self-esteem isn't damaged, he knows we do the best we can. And he's ok with it.
You do the best you can, and screw the people who don't like it!
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Post by padresfan619 on Jan 25, 2019 22:02:04 GMT
I was no world star athlete but I played standard AYSO soccer as a kid. During that period of time my mom owned a business that required travel over the majority of my weekend games. Looking back I appreciate that she taught me to be self sufficient and sacrifice for the ones you love even if it meant not being able to see every soccer game.
Giving up her weekends led to her being home with us every day after school to help with homework and to make dinner. Those memories are just as special.
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Post by J u l e e on Jan 25, 2019 22:13:59 GMT
It is absolutely okay.
Not the same, but adding to the discussion, there was a soccer season my daughter asked not to be watched. I promise you I was nearly invisible at all teeball/soccer/swim meets up until this time, but she has always required a wide berth and a lot of independence. She was never one to love an audience of any kind. I think she'd still be playing soccer if there was a league with absolutely no spectators. Anyway, I'm sure I was discussed on the sidelines that season - "that mom" who dropped her daughter off and never watched a game. I had to hold my head high and know I was respecting my daughter's request while pulling in to pick her up after games. It sucked. Expectations in youth sports suck. Your kids know you. They know you love them. They know you work hard. They will be okay.
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Post by Zee on Jan 25, 2019 22:24:37 GMT
My kids' involvement with sports was very limited, for which I am eternally grateful. Sporting events are so boring to me, whether it's my kid or not. I went to as few games as possible, and yes I had to either work or sleep a lot of the time.
My parents were rarely at my games or track meets and that was just fine by me. My mom had to work and my dad was an endless critic so I was good on my own. Granted I was not involved in anything involving lots of private travel, I was able to go on the bus. It might have been different if I had had to rely on other parents for rides.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jan 25, 2019 22:38:06 GMT
I'll admit that we (generally both dh and I, but occasionally only one of us) do whatever we can to attend ds' sporting events. Right now neither kid is playing rec leagues, only school sports but there was a time when ods did....weekends upon weekends of basketball (sometimes hours away) it was exhausting but it was important to us (and we do enjoy it). Fortunately we have flexible schedules: dh usually works from home and is off by 4, I stay/work at home, and our 2 kids are 9 years apart (there's a lot of negatives to that gap but a positive is that there's rarely an issue of competing events).
I don't judge parents who can't make it to every game, I know it's difficult if not impossible and I realize that all parents do their best (including putting their own well-being first occasionally). Now if they never come? That's different. I will say, our school (at least the years ds have played) has a great parent section, even at away games. We were just commenting during last nights game at how small the visiting teams' side was, granted they're from the furthest school in our district (over 1.5hrs) but when we visit them we still have a great crowd. I don't know if the kids see/care about crowd size but as an outsider it is nice to see that support for the kids.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 25, 2019 22:42:40 GMT
I think that parents being there makes a difference for most kids. Every single game? No. Life happens. And don't even get me started on the crazies that feel like they have to watch every practice. Parents absolutely don't need to do that, IMO. But I played softball for ten years, my dad came to zero games. I get that his work schedule was tough, but there were a lot of nights when he rode the couch instead of coming. The absolute irony is that he coached softball before I was born and up until I was about 4. I also did band. And my dad never came to a single concert. When I hit high school and played in marching band, he came. But I knew it was because he liked football. Being able to see me perform was just a byproduct of his interest in football.
My mom did her very best to be there for us. And it made a difference.
My DD played lacrosse. I missed a few tournaments that were far away. I felt no guilt. My DS played football for a couple of years and I went to all his games. My ex? Never once saw them play.
But I will tell you I have a friend with four children two boys who play hockey. And the time suck that hockey is for her is absolute craziness. My DD lacrosse was 3 months out of a year of games on Tuesday & Thursday nights with 3-4 Saturday tournaments. This wasn't a huge commitment IMO. Sure we were busy. But it was only for a season. I can commit to that. I cannot commit to 4-5 days/nights a week constantly. And I know this is probably opening up a can of worms better left for another discussion but I don't think it's healthy for kids to have that level of commitment, no matter how much they might enjoy playing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 22:43:16 GMT
My mom went to a few key swim meets. My dad went to zero that I can remember. I actually did not care as my mom would tell me I could have done better or say something like why did I not swim as well as Jane? I was never good enough for her. I was relieved when she did not show up.
I have one kid in band and one in baseball. Thankfully, he does not do travel ball. I go to all of the home games. I go to the two big concerts. DH goes with me every time. We both have jobs that do not go past 5 save for his industry conferences and seminars. There are parents that never show up and others that are the boosters president. What matters is that you support your children and they know you will encourage them.
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Post by kristi on Jan 25, 2019 22:46:37 GMT
My daughter played soccer for 11 years and I was SO involved. Team mom, at every game, took her to practices/sat at tournaments.
My son is on year 6 and I go to games when I don’t have conflicts but I no longer make it the end all be all. Honestly, I have seen enough soccer games for this lifeime. He travels (competitive team) and plays year round. I love him and support him but no longer feel the need to be at every event. It is quite freeing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 22:46:41 GMT
We went through a rough patch where spending $150 dollars to watch daughter dance for less than 4 minutes wasn’t in the budget. And going to the festivals? Out of the question, we just didn’t have the money.
I regret not being able to go to all the dance but we were at every soccer, baseball and basket ball stuff they did. And I volunteered for oh so much during those years.
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Post by amom23 on Jan 25, 2019 22:47:29 GMT
My kids have all been sports kids and DH and I continue to attend every game we can. Sometimes DH misses because of work, but I rarely do. I actually like going to the games and it's definitely social with lots of visiting with the other parents. My kids know they matter (and not just because we support their activities) and these years go by so fast.
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Post by roundtwo on Jan 25, 2019 22:56:37 GMT
I played sports, at local and national levels, and my kids also played sports at local and national levels. My parents came to the games/events when they could but their jobs and my siblings activities meant they certainly didn't get to all of them, especially when the competitions were out of the country. I liked when they were there, I was fine when they weren't. In some ways it was almost a relief at times when they couldn't make it since I could hang out with team mates after wards and not feel guilty that I wasn't with my parents. Never once, then or now, did I doubt my parents support and love for me, whether they were there or not.
I did the same with my kids - there was no way I could afford to follow my kids for every game and competiton even if I did have the time to do so. They have assured me over and over that they knew I supported them in all their endeavours and have never ever felt they couldn't rely on me for anything at anytime whether I made it to every game or not.
I think that always placing a kid at the top of the priority list isn't necessarily the best choice to make. Kids need to learn that while they certainly are amazing, the world does not revolve around them all the time.
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Post by sabrinae on Jan 25, 2019 23:02:34 GMT
I agree with you. With us it’s soccer. Both kids play, so sometimes it’s divide and conquer. We try to make every game and generally we both make it. Sometimes is only one of us and there will be a time when one of the girls ends up going to a game without one of us. We both work full time. I’m an attorney and sometimes have to work weekends. Eventually I’m not going to make it and I already bring work with me at times. The girls know I love them and support them. They also know that sometimes Mom’s job requires more and that’s ok too
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Post by dewryce on Jan 25, 2019 23:04:33 GMT
I agree with you, especially in regards to balancing life for other children and learning that everything isn’t all about them.
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Post by pilcas on Jan 25, 2019 23:06:25 GMT
Yes, the article does seem very entitled. We all do as much as we can as parents but we also have other responsibilities. Like the jobs that pay for those games and tournaments. Another issue is when there is another child involved. In my house my husband took my son to his games, I took my daughter to hers. We both worked so it was a sacrifice on our time to take them to the practices during the week as well. Sometimes when our kids games did not conflict I still did not go to my sons games because there were other things that needed to be done. We did other things together as a family. Both my kids survived with no trauma.
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Post by roxley on Jan 25, 2019 23:21:47 GMT
Nope, I don’t go to them all. I talk to my kids about it and let them know I think it is a mistake if a kid’s activity becomes the parent’s activity. I go to most, but purposely don’t go to all if it is just too inconvenient. They are just as well adjusted, and possibly more so than kids who have never been on their own in these situations. Their activities don’t become stresses on the family like I see in so many of my friends. Love watching them, but don’t need to see every contest/game.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jan 25, 2019 23:27:50 GMT
It is a bit of a relief to see I am not way off.
The person who posted this article last night stated that she gets comments because she goes to everything and gets crap for it.
She is really into sports and is a teacher and coach herself and a single mom of one teenager. I think it’s great she goes, and I think it makes sense for her. People shouldn’t judge her for going, but in this area, I don’t know a lot of people who would say that either. Most people I know go to at least all the home games the can.
However, I don’t like how many comments don’t come out and say it, but imply that her way is the right way and those but of us who don’t go to them all are somehow inferior.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jan 25, 2019 23:31:19 GMT
Entitled and judgmental of others that aren't meeting her parenting expectations.
I'm teaching my kids to be independent self sufficient adults. For me, part of that means that the world does not revolve around them. We have jobs and siblings and households to run. We try to get to as many events as we can. But we do not go to all of them.
When these kids grow up and get married, are they then going to expect their spouses to be at every event or activity. What about doctor appointments, are they going to expect their spouse to take time off work to go to every appointment with them.
To me this is setting those kids up for disappointment later in life.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 25, 2019 23:38:05 GMT
I didn't think the essay was too bad. I think it was more of an appreciation for what his/her parents did to get to the games and that it's important to support your kids.
I think by any account, I was an uber involved mom. But even I wasn't there every time. DS played football and DD was in theatre. I was the Team mom for football for 4 years and even did a 3 year stint as the head theatre mom, which was an almost full time volunteer position. I didn't always watch the game or the play, but I was there either watching or behind the scenes helping out for every play. Save one. DS had a game one night and DD had a play. I was the photographer for the varsity football team and shot from the sidelines. I pretty much had to be there. But DH was there for DD's play and I was there for DS's game. And I don't think that made me a bad mom at all. Dad's presence is just as good as mom's presence.
I will say that both kids (college aged now) have expressed how much they appreciate that we were there supporting what they did. That they knew we would be there supporting them. It doesn't mean that you don't care if you don't show up for every event. It means you don't care if you never show up, never wash a uniform, fix a snack, or ask about the event. That is being a bad parent.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 25, 2019 23:42:17 GMT
I love sports, but agree they can be a part time job.
I rarely miss one of my kids' games. I hate to miss them, but sometimes I just cant make it there in time
My mom went to all of my games. my dad barely went. Honestly I was playing. It didn't usually matter if they were there or not but it may have mattered if they weren't there...if that makessensee
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 0:00:54 GMT
It’s not whether you are at every event, it’s how involved you are.
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Post by Really Red on Jan 26, 2019 15:17:48 GMT
Of course it's okay to miss games here and there. What I take from the article is that it's important to have your parents there as much as possible.
I had three kids in different Varsity sports. It was hard to get to all the games. Travel sports take a giant toll, too! But my kids' dad almost never went to a game. I have a few sad stories about that, but the worst was that my XH's dad passed when he had just turned 18. The last thing his dad said was "I'll go see your next game." He had never seen his son play. My XH was on the Swiss National Team and was a very good player and his parents had never seen him play! My XH was so sad about that. You would think that he'd then attend his kids' games, but no.
I once sent him on a travel game with my girls for the weekend. My son had a different travel game. My girls called me in a panic, saying he had disappeared. They were in a different city and he literally dropped them off for an all-day tournament and never went back. He didn't answer his phone and they had no money to eat (other parents stepped in, of course)! That was the last time that happened.
All my kids told me one time or another that it wasn't important that I came to the games, but I totally ignored them. I think the point of the article is that it is more important than the kids realize at the time.
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Post by piebaker on Jan 26, 2019 15:45:15 GMT
I was very committed to seeing the activities where my girls were involved. I wasn't at every game but I was at practice, registration, away tournaments, booster clubs and field trips.They appreciated our involvement and have told us so now that they have graduated college.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jan 26, 2019 16:02:42 GMT
Years ago when I play high school and college volleyball, my parents never came to my games. They did go to my older brother's basketball games, home and away. I guess it didn't bother me at the time but it does bother me now. Why didn't they want to come? Perhaps it was because the volleyball games were right after school in the afternoon whereas the basketball games were at night? Who knows.
When my kids came along, I went to every game/event I could. Both DD's played club volleyball with lots of travelling and $$. I loved it! My DH did not go to many games/events, he was just not interested or working.
I came out okay. My kids are okay. I guess it all boils down to how you feel about other people judging you. If it bothers you, I guess you've got a problem.
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Post by mamater on Jan 26, 2019 17:03:48 GMT
I"m a hockey Mom. My dh is a hockey Dad. There is always one of us at my son's games (14 year old). Sometimes we miss because of work or illness but one of us is always there. Firstly because we enjoy it immensely. We have a deep love for the game. Secondly, in hockey the chance for injury is always there. I've watched kids lying on the ice waiting for an ambulance to show up with no parent there. I absolutely understand that parents can't always be there. I just won't let it be a chance with our son. On our team I'd say most kids have at least one parent there and if they don't it's an extenuating circumstance. No one judges that at all though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 17:10:01 GMT
I cheered so much at the games and meets that I think that my kids would have preferred that I didn’t go.  . We tried to make it to most of their games and meets through 8th grade, but more because parents were responsible for their child’s transportation. In high school, the team takes the bus to various meets so no, we don’t go to many of those, especially when some of those meets are 2 hours away and during work hours. I don’t feel guilty about it at all. I’m okay with choosing to care for my other children or not missing work to pay the bills vs attending every meet.
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 26, 2019 17:10:44 GMT
Im not a mom, but I was a kid who played sports. I am with you in that article rubbing me the wrong way. Not in the least because I was a kid who played sports and had siblings - not just one, but three. So I had to share my parents attendance at sporting events with them. We didn't even all play the same sports, but varying different ones. Because there was four of us, so sometimes I had no parent there if my brothers and sisters had stuff on. They tried to split it equally, but I'm sure it was super hard on them. I NEVER felt any less loved if I was playing and no one could be there, in fact it confirmed for me they loved us equally.
I live in North Dakota, so I completely get the hockey mom/kid culture. I'm assuming its just as bad (if not worse) expectation wise in Minnesota - and I think it places unfair expectations on parents - especially with more than one child. I love hockey, but I think that article encapsulates some of the worst aspects of it that that my friends hate. I can tell you, that you are not alone in your feelings or fighting resentment at times, I hope that makes you feel better. To be fair, I do think she is addressing those parents who don't think its important at all to be there, not parents like you who try but struggle with balancing it all. My husband had parents who never attended his games at all, and I can tell even now when he mentions it - that hurt him a lot.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 26, 2019 19:11:36 GMT
I had two kids that were in year round sports in addition to up to 6 other teams throughout the year. No way I could have attended every game (and practice). I will say my boys do remember that their dad attended many games (still less than me though) and they give him #1 Parent status for it.
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Post by mom on Jan 26, 2019 19:40:44 GMT
I am a SAHM so I am able to go to most events. My parents never came to my events (but they did go to my twin brothers football games). Sure, I have missed a few of their races (they are runners) but if I can go, I will. Other parents know I am usually there at the meets so I will take my camera and get photos of their kid running and send them to them. If I was in a situation here I couldn't be there, I would have loved someone else to send me photos of my kid. Other parents also have asked me to text them their son's running times and I will. I realize it's a privilege for me to be available to go to these events and I don't take that lightly.
My DH hates going to XC and track events, so he has a rule that he will go to 2 meets and then to any Regional and State meets. Otherwise, you can just tell hm about it. Some of our track meets are 5+ hours, one way and there is just no way he can miss that much work even if he wanted to go (he didn't).Neither of us go to practices.
Now, if my job prevented me from going (or money, or whatever) I would have been ok not going. The year my mom was hospice, I was her main caregiver so I missed a bunch. But my kids knew I loved them and understood that Grammy had to come first.
Either way, too much judgement goes on these days. Do the best you can do and do it with love.
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Post by mustlovecats on Jan 26, 2019 20:15:29 GMT
I do the best I can, full stop.
If my kids grow up and say mom did her best I am okay with that.
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