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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 21:31:44 GMT
Actor attacked in hate crime
From the article: Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We're told when shortly after he walked out on his way home, someone yelled, "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?" The 2 men -- both white and wearing ski masks -- viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, "This is MAGA country." I edited the title, for those who want to keep defending the "MAGA" folks, even though they show themselves out plenty often. UPDATE: So. I’m just going to post Roxane Gay’s tweet thread on this here, because it sums up exactly how I feel about how this story has unfolded. I’m sad, and angry, and not just because this story got messy. I’m sad and angry about the fact that stories like this happen that ARE true. I’m sad and angry that it’ll cast doubt on victims of actual crimes. Anyway, as usual, Roxane says it better.
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Post by heather on Jan 29, 2019 21:38:21 GMT
Who the fuck carries rope and bleach with them?!?
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Anita
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Post by Anita on Jan 29, 2019 21:42:38 GMT
Who the fuck carries rope and bleach with them?!? The MAGA police, apparently.
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Post by ashley on Jan 29, 2019 21:42:54 GMT
Sickening. Inexcusable. Deplorable. Those words aren’t even sufficient.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 21:44:19 GMT
Who the fuck carries rope and bleach with them?!? White supremacists who are planning an attack on a black gay man.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jan 29, 2019 21:46:44 GMT
That is horrific. This country has learned nothing from our history.
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Post by heather on Jan 29, 2019 21:48:10 GMT
Who the fuck carries rope and bleach with them?!? White supremacists who are planning an attack on a black gay man. Yeah. You’re right. I just don’t even know what to do anymore.
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Post by thundergal on Jan 29, 2019 21:49:49 GMT
This story is AWFUL.
I feel like some of the details are conflicting. I'm hearing that they did not actually say anything about MAGA. I'm not seeing anything CONSISTENT about them wearing the hats.
I'm waiting for more info.
But needless to say, these were racist homophobic fucking disgusting bigots who did this to him. A GD noose?! And even if they weren't wearing hats or screaming about MAGA, you'll never convince me that this kind of shit isn't happening more now because of trump and the cowards in the GOP leadership.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 29, 2019 21:57:44 GMT
Let us establish facts before spreading false information.
from yahoo's news: TMZ reported that the men allegedly yelled, “This is MAGA country,” referring to the slogan “Make America Great Again.” Yahoo has not independently confirmed whether the MAGA quote was yelled. A Chicago Police Department spokesperson told ProPublica that “if it happened, it was not reported to police.”
============================ We can all think of stories where false information was spread. Let us not be guilty of that.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 29, 2019 22:06:44 GMT
This combined with the photograph of the envelope with the MAGA scrawl in the corner makes me wonder if some people close to him aren't confusing details or trying to relate the attack with the threatening letter (which to me, at first glance, doesn't make any sense because unless they were stalking him, this had to be a random attack.) And Brian Broome just posed a great question on FB - what kind of MAGAT would watch Empire and know who he was and that he's gay? I'm going to take a wait and see with this one until we get more details from a reputable outlet other than TMZ.
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Post by thundergal on Jan 29, 2019 22:15:18 GMT
what kind of MAGAT would watch Empire and know who he was and that he's gay? ahhhh, true true true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 22:16:03 GMT
That is... there aren't words bad enough to describe how atrocious that is. That poor guy, is he physically okay?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 22:18:32 GMT
This combined with the photograph of the envelope with the MAGA scrawl in the corner makes me wonder if some people close to him aren't confusing details or trying to relate the attack with the threatening letter (which to me, at first glance, doesn't make any sense because unless they were stalking him, this had to be a random attack.) And Brian Broome just posed a great question on FB - what kind of MAGAT would watch Empire and know who he was and that he's gay? I'm going to take a wait and see with this one until we get more details from a reputable outlet other than TMZ. It couldn't have been a random attack if they had bleach and a rope with them.
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Post by Peace Sign on Jan 29, 2019 22:26:42 GMT
This combined with the photograph of the envelope with the MAGA scrawl in the corner makes me wonder if some people close to him aren't confusing details or trying to relate the attack with the threatening letter (which to me, at first glance, doesn't make any sense because unless they were stalking him, this had to be a random attack.) And Brian Broome just posed a great question on FB - what kind of MAGAT would watch Empire and know who he was and that he's gay? I'm going to take a wait and see with this one until we get more details from a reputable outlet other than TMZ. What the hell? Why can we assume the worst of every immigrant, black man, gang banger, but now it’s “let’s wait for all the details”? We all know what happened here and why.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 29, 2019 22:28:26 GMT
I don't mean random in that sense - clearly the attackers set out with plans to hurt someone that night. I meant random in that he was the victim. I think I wasn't clear. I don't mean that I doubt he was attacked, obviously he was. I meant about the MAGA details. And fwiw, Brian Broome who I referenced who asked the question about Empire/MAGA is a brilliant local black activist and writer. I don't agree with him about all of his doubts but the Empire/MAGA thing is a good point. ETA: Trying to embed his post which I don't seem to know how to do right.
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 29, 2019 22:30:39 GMT
This combined with the photograph of the envelope with the MAGA scrawl in the corner makes me wonder if some people close to him aren't confusing details or trying to relate the attack with the threatening letter (which to me, at first glance, doesn't make any sense because unless they were stalking him, this had to be a random attack.) And Brian Broome just posed a great question on FB - what kind of MAGAT would watch Empire and know who he was and that he's gay? I'm going to take a wait and see with this one until we get more details from a reputable outlet other than TMZ. What the hell? Why can we assume the worst of every immigrant, black man, gang banger, but now it’s “let’s wait for all the details”? We all know what happened here and why. Because you don’t want to be a hypocrite. Because you don’t want to lessen your argument by incorporating falsehoods. Because: when we know better, we do better.
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Post by thundergal on Jan 29, 2019 22:34:40 GMT
I don't mean random in that sense - clearly the attackers set out with plans to hurt someone that night. I meant random in that he was the victim. I think I wasn't clear. I don't mean that I doubt he was attacked, obviously he was. I meant about the MAGA details. And fwiw, Brian Broome who I referenced who asked the question about Empire/MAGA is a brilliant local black activist and writer. ETA: Trying to embed his post - <span class="wysiwyg-embed facebook" url="<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fbrian.broome.5%2Fposts%2F10218440368111451&width=500" width="500" height="223" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>"> Your Facebook embed will appear here after you post...</span> I think you were very clear. I knew exactly what you meant.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 22:52:52 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 22:55:51 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 22:57:28 GMT
Up 17%. Is America great again yet?
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jan 29, 2019 22:57:36 GMT
I think there’s a LOT of details that make absolutely no sense about this story, and I’ve been a fan of the entire Smollett family for years. I’m just not buying the story as it’s being told. I don’t care if it came directly from Jussie himself—the story doesn’t make sense.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 22:58:01 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 22:58:52 GMT
I think there’s a LOT of details that make absolutely no sense about this story, and I’ve been a fan of the entire Smollett family for years. I’m just not buying the story as it’s being told. I don’t care if it came directly from Jussie himself—the story doesn’t make sense. May I ask what you think happened if you don’t believe Jussie?
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jan 29, 2019 23:01:28 GMT
I think there’s a LOT of details that make absolutely no sense about this story, and I’ve been a fan of the entire Smollett family for years. I’m just not buying the story as it’s being told. I don’t care if it came directly from Jussie himself—the story doesn’t make sense. May I ask what you think happened if you don’t believe Jussie? There’s not enough information for me to even draw conclusions except that Jussie was attacked in some way and in the hospital. Those are the facts I know right now.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 29, 2019 23:19:35 GMT
May I ask what you think happened if you don’t believe Jussie? There’s not enough information for me to even draw conclusions except that Jussie was attacked in some way and in the hospital. Those are the facts I know right now. According to the Chicago police, there are specifics on the attack: According to a statement released by the Chicago Police Department, Smollett was beaten by two men who approached him by yelling out “racial and homophobic slurs” at approximately 2 a.m. Tuesday morning in the 300 block of E. North Water Street. They proceeded to assault Smollett and “poured an unknown chemical substance” on him. The two men are also said to have put a rope around Smollett’s neck before fleeing on foot. Smollett then transported himself to an area hospital and is described as being in “good condition.” From: variety.com/2019/tv/news/jussie-smollett-empire-assaulted-chicago-1203122135/amp/
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 29, 2019 23:21:27 GMT
Up 17%. Is America great again yet? We should be building a wall to keep these folks contained, or out, am I right??? Oh wait....they’re the “acceptable “ type of haters, vermin, bottom feeders, violent persons. They keep the POC, immigrants in their place. 🙄🙄🙄
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Post by flanz on Jan 29, 2019 23:22:06 GMT
Who the fuck carries rope and bleach with them?!? White supremacists who are planning an attack on a black gay man. Just horrific!
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Post by Peace Sign on Jan 29, 2019 23:24:54 GMT
I don't mean random in that sense - clearly the attackers set out with plans to hurt someone that night. I meant random in that he was the victim. I think I wasn't clear. I don't mean that I doubt he was attacked, obviously he was. I meant about the MAGA details. And fwiw, Brian Broome who I referenced who asked the question about Empire/MAGA is a brilliant local black activist and writer. ETA: Trying to embed his post - <span class="wysiwyg-embed facebook" url="<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fbrian.broome.5%2Fposts%2F10218440368111451&width=500" width="500" height="223" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>"> Your Facebook embed will appear here after you post...</span> I think you were very clear. I knew exactly what you meant. I did too. Where/why would this (hat) detail be added and by whom?
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Post by Peace Sign on Jan 29, 2019 23:26:54 GMT
I think there’s a LOT of details that make absolutely no sense about this story, and I’ve been a fan of the entire Smollett family for years. I’m just not buying the story as it’s being told. I don’t care if it came directly from Jussie himself—the story doesn’t make sense. Why?
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Post by inkedup on Jan 29, 2019 23:28:23 GMT
I think there’s a LOT of details that make absolutely no sense about this story, and I’ve been a fan of the entire Smollett family for years. I’m just not buying the story as it’s being told. I don’t care if it came directly from Jussie himself—the story doesn’t make sense. This is where I'm at. The details don't seem to add up.
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