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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 24, 2019 14:21:26 GMT
I read an article from a couple years ago to get some history. 40-50 photographers a week - yeah that's annoying as hell. Doesn't justify her behavior, but it sounds like this really ballooned 3ish years ago - so it's not like moving next to an airport and complaining about airport noise. A two block enclave of 26 homes wouldn't expect to be inundated with strangers setting up photo shoots all weekend long on their sidewalk - and yes it is their sidewalk you can clearly see in the pictures that there are no sidewalks in front of the house, so if you want to walk fido apparently you're expected to step over brides and babies in the middle of the sidewalk every time the sun's out. Now that it's listed on websites as a picturesque spot and so well known they have no choice but to set up permit process - obviously running up and hitting people is not the solution.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 24, 2019 14:48:36 GMT
I read an article from a couple years ago to get some history. 40-50 photographers a week - yeah that's annoying as hell. Doesn't justify her behavior, but it sounds like this really ballooned 3ish years ago - so it's not like moving next to an airport and complaining about airport noise. A two block enclave of 26 homes wouldn't expect to be inundated with strangers setting up photo shoots all weekend long on their sidewalk - and yes it is their sidewalk you can clearly see in the pictures that there are no sidewalks in front of the house, so if you want to walk fido apparently you're expected to step over brides and babies in the middle of the sidewalk every time the sun's out. Now that it's listed on websites as a picturesque spot and so well known they have no choice but to set up permit process - obviously running up and hitting people is not the solution. But obviously the brides and families are choosing this spot BECAUSE *no one else was using it* for walking, jogging, etc. The fact that you could get nice pictures without a bunch of rando people in the background that would have to be photoshopped out in post production is exactly the reason why this particular place is being chosen over and over again. If the people who lived on that street were actively using the green space themselves, it would suddenly become a lot less attractive to the people looking to have their portraits taken. And as far as the reference to my airport comparison, when some of the people here bought their homes next to the airport the flight paths were different and far fewer planes were taking off daily. Over time, the airport got bigger and busier with more runways added and different flight paths being used, so more people in closer proximity to the airport were now affected, so it’s absolutely a good comparison. My point was and still is with a quiet pretty spot like that on public property, the potential was always there whether it was currently being utilized or not. Just like the potential for increased airport noise was always there and no one cared until that potential was realized and then suddenly everyone was all up in arms about the airport that they *chose* to live by.
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Post by quinlove on Feb 24, 2019 14:58:18 GMT
Wow - what. a. mess. !!!
Frankly, I can see both sides. Obviously the rich, doggy mom has serious issues. Entitlement right up there. Just because you’re rich doesn’t necessarily equate with being smart. The smart thing would be to *find* - pay for, a solution through the city or courts to limit or control the park situation. Subjecting yourself to public ridicule and law suits makes no sense.
The Birthday people, while just enjoying the day and trying to make some memories, did not handle this situation well either. I understand the human nature aspect of this and they wanted to capture this crazy lady on tape for a multitude of reasons. While the precious baby is scared and crying.
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Post by happymomma on Feb 24, 2019 17:23:56 GMT
1. I'm sorry, your race card has been declined. 2. Dog momma needs to be charged. 3. I wouldn't like businesses being run in front of my home, but unless they're breaking the law there isn't much I could do to stop it. 4. The home owners need to get creative and make it an undesirable place to do such business. Take turns during the day, patrolling and photobombing when necessary. 5. As said above, the ones that leave a mess need to be fined. In other words...enforce the laws that are already in place that are being broken. For some reason this is a very unpopular concept in regards to other situations though, so that might not be what works here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 17:29:26 GMT
How many times do the people who are local have to say that this is not a public park?
The overall sense of entitlement to use property in front of someone's home at any time of the day or night for something as frivolous as a photography studio is astonishing.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 24, 2019 17:38:52 GMT
How many times do the people who are local have to say that this is not a public park? The town government says it is PUBLIC property!
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Post by myshelly on Feb 24, 2019 17:42:05 GMT
I love the idea of the residents sabatoging and photobombing the photo shoots 🤣
They could start an insta account!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 17:59:36 GMT
How many times do the people who are local have to say that this is not a public park? The town government says it is PUBLIC property! Public right of way and public park are two different things. And the fact that the neighborhood pays for the upkeep says it isn't truly public. It is just an right of way like a utility easement.
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Post by nightnurse on Feb 24, 2019 19:03:53 GMT
I have to admit it annoys me when people block walkways. I don’t even like groups huddled in the middle of aisles in stores talking or looking at their receipts-step to the side and out of the way. It would annoy me if I was trying to walk my dog down the esplanade and was expected to stay out of photos or walk around equipment. I hope I wouldn’t assault anyone over it but I would feel that the purpose of the area is to provide a walkway/passage and people walking or jogging or whatever should have preference over photographers. I do realize in this case the homeowner was driving by and just became unhinged and I do wonder what about this particular photo shoot on this particular day pushed her over the edge. And really the cops need to arrest her immediately. The assault is on video. I’m tired of there being different laws for the wealthy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 19:17:13 GMT
If the city wants to allow free reign to this property, then maybe they should pay for the upkeep and the repairs and cleanup on it.
I'm curious about the taxes. We have city sidewalks in our town. The property between the street and the sidewalk as well as the sidewalk itself are considered public easement although we have to maintain them. We also pay taxes on the lot all the way to the street. If the trees or grass die in the easement, it is up to the homeowner to replace them. Therefore, I would have a whole lot to say to someone parking their ass on that property, leaving trash, and possibly damaging the grass and vegetation.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 24, 2019 20:06:19 GMT
So no one sees anything rude or weird about doing your photos on a street right in front of private homes? Alrighty then. Guess it's just me. Please do tell me where you live so I can come and run my business rent-free on your sidewalk. If it is public property then it is legal to take photographs there. The moment the photographer puts a toe on a private piece of property, the homeowner will have a valid lawsuit. I wouldn’t care if a photographer was out using my sidewalk and street to take photos. I would question their judgement though, as it’s rather plain and boring. 😉
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Post by julieb on Feb 24, 2019 20:09:48 GMT
I feel bad that the parents will never be able to look at the pictures that were taken that day without thinking about this encounter. Very sad.
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Post by prapea on Feb 24, 2019 20:23:26 GMT
My personal opinion on the racism aspect of this:
It became racist the second no charges were filed on a white lady hitting a non-white person ....not once but three times.
It became racist when she never hit or acted that way to any of the white people taking pictures in that same damn spot.
It became racist when white people claim it is not racist.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 24, 2019 20:32:26 GMT
My personal opinion on the racism aspect of this: It became racist the second no charges were filed on a white lady hitting a non-white person ....not once but three times. It became racist when she never hit or acted that way to any of the white people taking pictures in that same damn spot. It became racist when white people claim it is not racist. And claiming things that aren’t racist are racist only makes people take racism less seriously. That hurts more in the long run.
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Post by Merge on Feb 24, 2019 20:41:52 GMT
If the city wants to allow free reign to this property, then maybe they should pay for the upkeep and the repairs and cleanup on it. I'm curious about the taxes. We have city sidewalks in our town. The property between the street and the sidewalk as well as the sidewalk itself are considered public easement although we have to maintain them. We also pay taxes on the lot all the way to the street. If the trees or grass die in the easement, it is up to the homeowner to replace them. Therefore, I would have a whole lot to say to someone parking their ass on that property, leaving trash, and possibly damaging the grass and vegetation. I think that's what people are not grasping here. The homeowners are responsible for maintenance. The city is not coming in to pick up the trash, fix the damaged landscaping and sprinklers, etc. That's all on the homeowners. No big deal if it's a few people using it here and there. It's the sheer volume of folks treating this place like their personal outdoor photography studio that are the problem. And with that, I'm out. I've made this situation as clear as possible to folks who have never set foot on this street. If you're going to persist in thinking you know more about this situation than people who live a few miles away, I can't help you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 20:43:27 GMT
My personal opinion on the racism aspect of this: It became racist the second no charges were filed on a white lady hitting a non-white person ....not once but three times. It became racist when she never hit or acted that way to any of the white people taking pictures in that same damn spot. It became racist when white people claim it is not racist. It is hard to tell but I'm pretty sure the man holding the baby at the end of the video is white.
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Post by Karene on Feb 24, 2019 22:33:09 GMT
There is a sunflower farm near here. They let people go into the fields to take sunflower photos and everything was fine. Then someone posted a selfie on Instagram. It got lots of attention and the farm was suddenly overrun with all these people who had to have a sunflower selfie.
They parked all over the road and driveway, trampled down tons of sunflower plants all in one weekend and the farm had to stop people taking photos. To protect their livelihood. And still people were jumping the fence and all kinds of stuff for a stupid selfie! No regard for the damage they did. They probably posted their selfie and never looked at it again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 23:53:39 GMT
I hate IG monkey-see monkey-do nonsense anyway.
I think quiet enjoyment of public property is allowed.
There is a street between this walkway and the massive homes on this road.
Blocking the sidewalk w/a little child and a little blanket is reasonable.
Having photos do their IG-worthy photo shoots ALL DAY LONG is clearly something that should be phoned in and reported and enforced.
The woman needs to be charged yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 16:22:06 GMT
Looks like Franci PR'ed up and ABC is playing along. How nice to be rich and be able to buy your opinion into a new program. I wonder how many minorities would have loved a chance to explain their extenuating circumstances to their local news affiliate?
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