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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 23:18:21 GMT
Free markets and all that. " Charlotte Russe, Family Dollar, Abercrombie & Fitch, and Chico's announced more than 1,100 store closings in total over the course of 24 hours this week. The news comes one week after JCPenney, Gap, Victoria's Secret, and Tesla announced that they would close more than 300 stores. These announcements bring the total number of planned closures this year to more than 5,300. " www.businessinsider.com/charlotte-russe-family-dollar-and-abercrombie-to-close-1100-stores-2019-3Lots of empty retail space too. I'd hate to be holding a mall REIT.
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Post by basketdiva on Mar 9, 2019 23:45:46 GMT
Too many would rather order online than actually get out of their home and go to a store.
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Post by brookeq on Mar 9, 2019 23:48:51 GMT
This stinks for me. I like to buy clothes in the store not online. I will buy other things online but not too much clothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 23:54:52 GMT
That stinks. I live in a town where we are often on the list of closings because there is a busier location in the next city over. I hate driving to that city's shopping area. I too prefer shopping for clothes in person. However, my size is often missing in the color or pattern I really want. I often end up going up and ordering my size through Ebates. As I am looking for shoes, I look to see if I can find it in person here first.
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Post by tracyarts on Mar 10, 2019 0:01:43 GMT
For a lot of things it's just easier. I don't like "normal" fashion and don't wear common sizes in anything. I mostly order from specialty retailers and independent designers. The only brick and mortar store that consistently has clothes I like and that fit well is an hour and a half from my town. Too many would rather order online than actually get out of their home and go to a store.
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Post by katlady on Mar 10, 2019 0:03:32 GMT
Online shopping is killing the brick and mortar stores. I am doing more and more online shopping lately. The exception is shoes. I need to try on shoes. They don't all fit the same and I don't want to hassle with making returns. Lot of retailers no longer even carry my size shoe (5) in their physical stores. I am left with Nordstrom. If they ever stop selling my size, UGH!
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 10, 2019 0:04:27 GMT
I'm really not surprised by any of this.
It's been so frustrating trying to shop in stores over the last few years. Pick any store, walk in, and what's on the racks? Sizes XS and XXL. Shoes? No problem if you are a 6 1/2 or an 11. Need a bra? Great, we have size 32A and 38G available. So I wind up driving all that way to shop (45 minutes minimum for me to get to a mall) to turn around and be told by the employees "No we don't have any other sizes/styles/colors but you can order that online!" So yeah... I just save myself the hassle and extra gas expense and order it online to begin with.
I think retailers could do a lot better if they paid attention and ordered more of the common sizes and styles, made the same discounts available in the store as are online, and actually took the time to merchandise their stores. So many stores these days look like glorified versions of Ross. It just isn't a pleasant shopping experience.
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Post by belgravia on Mar 10, 2019 0:09:31 GMT
I was in NYC over Christmas and was shocked to see how much empty retail space there was. And many of the stores we shopped at were pop up shops, open only for the month of December. The pop ups are paperless, so they don’t print a receipt and don’t even accept cash. I guess it’s easy for them to rent an empty space for a month, set up their stock, and capitalize on holiday shoppers. I’m contributing to the problem. I do the vast majority of my shopping online.
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Post by mikklynn on Mar 10, 2019 0:11:08 GMT
If they had a register open with fewer than 5 people in line, I'd shop in person. I don't want to do self checkout.
Macy's and JCP, if you didn't hide your plus sizes in the basement, I'd enjoy shopping there.
Talbots, I love your clothes, but only one store in the Twin Cities carries plus size. And it's 1/4 the size of the size of the regular area. I have to drive halfway across town to get there.
I'm an online shopper.
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Post by Clair on Mar 10, 2019 0:15:06 GMT
This is bound to happen. Retail is changing - I don’t want to spend hours at the mall.
I do a lot of in store pick up. Nordstrom will even bring your purchase out to the car if you text them you are waiting - love that.
I think some sort of hybrid shopping should be developed. Rather than carry a lot of sizes - samples to try on then choose color and size - rather than take purchases with you they are delivered from warehouses within hours or the next day. Less frustration with not being able to find sizes and shopping around.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 10, 2019 0:41:43 GMT
And yet I saw a report Friday that amazon is looking to open brick & mortar locations
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 1:10:57 GMT
I am part of the "problem" and don't feel apologetic for it. Changes happen. Retail has been on a downhill slide for 20-30 years now. When I shop in person the walking kills me (I have mobility issues) There is no where to sit down to rest. I guess I'm supposed to take a wheelchair.
Stores never seem to have my size in stock. I know a large part of the problem is manufacturers send out clothing and shoes in predetermined lots of mixed sizes. Stores can't order just what their specific clientele wants.
I also have quirky clothing preferences. I don't dress based on this seasons fashion trends but if I can find someone that carries what I like and keeps it in stock I'll be a loyal shopper.
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Post by scrapsotime on Mar 10, 2019 1:21:18 GMT
Dh and I went to four different brick and mortar stores today looking for items for an event we are having next weekend. All of them used to carry these items a few months ago. All four no longer carry what we need. We are finding that to be happening more and more lately. We have to shop online to get what we need.
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Post by lisae on Mar 10, 2019 1:29:04 GMT
I would hate to see our Chicos close. I don't shop there that often because the style of clothes doesn't suit me as much as their neighbor Talbots. But I like that they are on my end of town away from the mall and congestion. It's nice to pop in sometimes when I'm in a shopping mood or I've spotted something online or in the catalog I want to try on. I have a friend who shops there for a good percentage of her wardrobe.
I think some of these stores have to be affected by TJ Maxx, Steinmart and other retailers who sell discounted designer merchandise. Personally I can't stand to sift through the racks at TJ Maxx but my mother who was once an avid mall shopper, now gets far more of her clothes from Ross, TJ Maxx and consignment stores than the malls.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Mar 10, 2019 1:34:33 GMT
I'm really not surprised by any of this. It's been so frustrating trying to shop in stores over the last few years. Pick any store, walk in, and what's on the racks? Sizes XS and XXL. Shoes? No problem if you are a 6 1/2 or an 11. Need a bra? Great, we have size 32A and 38G available. So I wind up driving all that way to shop (45 minutes minimum for me to get to a mall) to turn around and be told by the employees "No we don't have any other sizes/styles/colors but you can order that online!" So yeah... I just save myself the hassle and extra gas expense and order it online to begin with. I think retailers could do a lot better if they paid attention and ordered more of the common sizes and styles, made the same discounts available in the store as are online, and actually took the time to merchandise their stores. So many stores these days look like glorified versions of Ross. It just isn't a pleasant shopping experience. I agree so much with this. My time is worth something, and more times than not, I cannot find what I'm looking for in a b&m. Not to mention, the price is almost always better online. And I don't have to wait in a long line because only two of the twelve checkouts are open. I don't love that retail stores are closing left and right. There are so many empty retail buildings in my neighborhood. But I can't feel bad when I shop online, because it is the only place I can find the goods I need without going on an expedition to store after store.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 1:35:17 GMT
It's not just in the US we have the same problem in the UK.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 10, 2019 1:58:02 GMT
I'm surprised to see Family Dollar on the list. They've been doing a lot of building lately.
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Post by alsomsknit on Mar 10, 2019 2:01:10 GMT
How much of it has been the decluttering/Minimalism/Marie Kondo going in over the past few years?
Personally, shopping used to be recreation. After decluttering and realizing how much money we wasted over the years, I have no desire to shop whatsoever. We don’t take shopping trips anymore. We shop mindfully. If it isn’t on a needs list, we don’t buy.
Loving something is no longer a reason to buy either. The #1 consideration is where am I going to store/place this followed by will I truly use it. Found the ability to be brutally honest with myself.
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Post by ~summer~ on Mar 10, 2019 2:10:40 GMT
And yet I saw a report Friday that amazon is looking to open brick & mortar locations there is an Amazon 4 Star store near me. It’s actually pretty cool - it carries an assortment of items but everything is a bestseller with 5 star reviews. I for one hate to shop in chain stores (but will online) but I do shop in our local independent stores in our community pretty often. Everything from the farmers market to our book store to the local boutique and home stores.
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Post by katlady on Mar 10, 2019 2:16:17 GMT
I don’t know if it is the decluttering movement as mush as it is the millennials just don’t shop like the baby boomers do/did. They don’t go to malls, they rather have experiences than stuff, they like thrift shopping and buying off of sites like eBay and Poshmark. My acquaintances who are in their late 20’s to mid 30’s never go to the big indoor mall we have nearby.
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Post by seaexplore on Mar 10, 2019 2:20:09 GMT
I find that I’m buying less and less in store and more online. The exception is MY clothes. I like to try them on and feel them. I dress very simply tho... tee shirts and jeans in the winter and tee shirts or tank tops in the hot weather. All of my clothes I’m wearing these days come from Target. I think the last time I actually purchased a clothing item for myself was at least 2 years ago. I just don’t shop. Never have really. Now that I live 45 minutes from anything, I shop even less. Not even on Amazon really. We don’t even have prime! I see stores packed and I wonder what people are buying because I certainly am not purchasing tons of stuff. We buy most of our groceries at Costco. Kids clothes are all handme downs. We can certainly afford to buy new clothing and things like that but we don’t. It’s kinda weird, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 2:44:31 GMT
I think part of it is the messy way we dress now. It's super easy to buy online or thrift. Stuff isn't tailored - it isn't even hemmed. I'm not going to go to a department store and drop $70-$150 on a pair of torn unhemmed jeans. I'll thrift that for $15, thanks. And athleisure makes it easy to buy online too - stretchy workout pants, running pants, athleisure tops.
I hate to see so many empty storefronts at our mall, but I don't go as much as I used to either. It's just not worth the drive, money, energy.
We do have an open air "upscale" mall that I go to - but mostly for walking around and dining or meeting friends for coffee.
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Post by trollie on Mar 10, 2019 2:46:34 GMT
I prefer to shop online. Not only is it easier to find the items I need, customer service and basic human interaction skills are lacking in the few employees that they have in the stores these days.
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Post by kelly8875 on Mar 10, 2019 4:29:13 GMT
Online shopping saves me time. It’s faster to find what I want for clothing, and my sizes are a little unique. I don’t know how many times before online shopping was available that I would order from the catalog in store, and have it shipped anyway. I have a long inseam, and long arms. I also have big feet.
And I don’t buy “stuff” just to buy. I was in Target a week ago buying things like light bulbs, and cleaning supplies. But not “stuff”. I hadn’t been to target or similar in maybe 6 months before that... I only chose there this time because I had a gift card.
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Post by chlerbie on Mar 10, 2019 4:50:59 GMT
We live about 25 minutes from most stores I'd like to shop at, so most of what I do is online these days. I went to the mall in the fall this year and it was the first (and last) time I've been in ages. I buy clothes online and also love walking to the two thrift stores that are about a five minute walk each for me. I've found some great stuff. Except for some stocking stuffers, I also do all of my Christmas shopping online.
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Post by tracyarts on Mar 10, 2019 5:56:05 GMT
I'm Gen-X and noticed that most of my peers aren't big into stuff in general. We have a few interests or hobbies that we will buy things to support. And, we like our creature comforts and technology. But otherwise? We're not into buying just to have new stuff. We tend to hold onto things longer before replacing them, and aren't really lured by "new" or trendy. May just be my peer group though, we were the alternative kids in high school and college. Maybe other Gen-Xers are into shopping as a form of entertainment, and keeping up with trends. I don’t know if it is the decluttering movement as mush as it is the millennials just don’t shop like the baby boomers do/did. They don’t go to malls, they rather have experiences than stuff, they like thrift shopping and buying off of sites like eBay and Poshmark. My acquaintances who are in their late 20’s to mid 30’s never go to the big indoor mall we have nearby.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 6:07:14 GMT
This is bound to happen. Retail is changing - I don’t want to spend hours at the mall. Exactly. It isn't as much as retail cratering as it is that retail is changing. As technology evolves, other things change with it. It impacts how people shop, how they work, how they travel, how they learn. Life today looks different than 20 years ago and it will look different in another 20 years.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Mar 10, 2019 8:24:14 GMT
the stores now day lack customer services, stock, selection and again customer services. The only time you find me at the mall is if we have to take something to DH for work. Since one of the main stations is right at the mall. So we will go inside to let Morgan play or grab something for launch. I order a lot online now and love it never been a big shopper. With homeschooling now it helps a lot. If we need something i can order it and it's here two days later.
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Post by wellway on Mar 10, 2019 8:40:15 GMT
How we shop is always changing, I can remember as a child shopping with my Mum. Separate shops for meat, veg, hardware, clothes etc.
Then we could get it all under one roof at the big out of town supermarkets.
Now we don't even have to leave our armchairs to shop.
It boils down to time and convenience. We, as the consumers, have embraced the changes. If we want an active, vibrant main street, then we are going to have to have a change of heart. I don't see that happening soon enough for lots of main street stores.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 10, 2019 12:01:54 GMT
And yet I saw a report Friday that amazon is looking to open brick & mortar locations That's because Amazon is revolutioning the buying experience. Convenience purchases that are walk-in-walk-out are just another way for them to establish their monopoly and change our attitude towards spending (who'll have the patience to stand in line for a quick grocery shop after trying Amazon Go?). They're adapting to (and shaping) our buying habits. Physical stores are just a way for them to expand their offer.
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