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Post by IPeaFreely on Oct 3, 2014 17:59:13 GMT
Joel and Julia...Didn't she just kiss the other dude? I don't remember her sleeping with him. So, Joel flipped out and left their family over a kiss?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 18:01:58 GMT
yep...the father from school...was just a kiss. Joel flipped out and left his family over a kiss.
Last year I didn't like Julia and I felt sorry for Joel. Now...not so much. I don't want them to get back together...but they probably will.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Oct 3, 2014 18:02:41 GMT
Joel and Julia...Didn't she just kiss the other dude? I don't remember her sleeping with him. So, Joel flipped out and left their family over a kiss? Yes. This has been a huge issue for me with Joel and Julia. I absolutely don't condone what Julia did, but to be honest, Joel had been an absolute tool since they switched places (Julia decided to stay home and Joel pursued his career). While I think it wasn't a good fit for Julia, Joel was no help whatsoever. I mean, he refused to let her hold back Victor and that blew up in their face. He just let her deal with a lot of stuff and that put such a strain on their relationship and he seemed to be completely clueless about it. Which is why she found such comfort in the other guy. He flipped out and moved out right away and simply would not even try and work on things and that's what pushed them to what they are now. That's how I feel, anyway...lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 18:04:59 GMT
Julia didn't sleep with the other guy, it was just a kiss, but that's not why Joel left. It was a lot more than that. Julia had been disrespectful and unappreciative of Joel when he was at home with their daughter, despite him being very supportive of her and her career. But when the tables turned and Julia was at home and Joel was working and having success, Julia blamed Joel for everything and said he didn't support her, blah blah blah. She was terrible. Unlike Joel, who just dealt with the family stuff when he was at home because that was his "job", Julia didn't take care of things on her own and went to extremes - including coming to Joel's workplace and screaming at him - because she wanted Joel to be totally available to the family all the time (though she didn't expect the same of herself when she was working).
The emotional attachment to the other man and the kiss were just the last straw for Joel and I, for one, don't blame him.
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Post by IPeaFreely on Oct 3, 2014 18:12:01 GMT
Got it. Thanks girls.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Oct 3, 2014 18:16:42 GMT
Julia didn't sleep with the other guy, it was just a kiss, but that's not why Joel left. It was a lot more than that. Julia had been disrespectful and unappreciative of Joel when he was at home with their daughter, despite him being very supportive of her and her career. But when the tables turned and Julia was at home and Joel was working and having success, Julia blamed Joel for everything and said he didn't support her, blah blah blah. She was terrible. Unlike Joel, who just dealt with the family stuff when he was at home because that was his "job", Julia didn't take care of things on her own and went to extremes - including coming to Joel's workplace and screaming at him - because she wanted Joel to be totally available to the family all the time (though she didn't expect the same of herself when she was working). The emotional attachment to the other man and the kiss were just the last straw for Joel and I, for one, don't blame him. I mostly agree with this, but also - the stuff Julia was dealing with because of the addition of Victor to the family was much more stressful than the scenario Joel had with Sydney alone, before she became such a brat. Also, I think there's more that's going to come out about Joel and his beautiful female architect boss. JMHO. |
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Post by denda on Oct 3, 2014 18:19:14 GMT
I didn't blame Joel for getting upset. I didn't want him to leave though. I hope they get back together even though I don't like Julia.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 18:23:12 GMT
That is true, but she still handled it HORRIBLY and did not have any respect for Joel and his career.
I don't think there was anything with the boss. I think she was open to it, but I don't think Joel did anything. I think he loved Julia but she just would not see that the way she was acting was not right or fair and would not make any effort to change.
I think Joel flipped at the kiss because they had talked about that dad and that Joel was uncomfortable with their relationship and Julia agreed to stay away, but then the kiss happened and she lied about it.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Oct 3, 2014 18:28:51 GMT
I think there has been a constant power struggle in the marriage and they are equally at fault. In the early years of the show Joel was easy going and non confrontational. Julia didn't leave the power lawyer persona at the door. When they fought about issues - mostly their children, they were never on the same page. It seemed to me winning the argument was more important than finding middle ground. The power shifts back and forth between them and so far this season I don't see it bring any different.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Oct 3, 2014 20:11:09 GMT
Julia didn't sleep with the other guy, it was just a kiss, but that's not why Joel left. It was a lot more than that. Julia had been disrespectful and unappreciative of Joel when he was at home with their daughter, despite him being very supportive of her and her career. But when the tables turned and Julia was at home and Joel was working and having success, Julia blamed Joel for everything and said he didn't support her, blah blah blah. She was terrible. Unlike Joel, who just dealt with the family stuff when he was at home because that was his "job", Julia didn't take care of things on her own and went to extremes - including coming to Joel's workplace and screaming at him - because she wanted Joel to be totally available to the family all the time (though she didn't expect the same of herself when she was working). The emotional attachment to the other man and the kiss were just the last straw for Joel and I, for one, don't blame him. I mostly agree with this, but also - the stuff Julia was dealing with because of the addition of Victor to the family was much more stressful than the scenario Joel had with Sydney alone, before she became such a brat. Also, I think there's more that's going to come out about Joel and his beautiful female architect boss. JMHO. I agree with this. Not to mention, Joel just refused to deal with the really important things (i.e. holding Victor back at the beginning of the school year vs. later in the year when it would be a lot more difficult) and that made things that much harder for Julia. (I agree that she was a huge pain in the ass, but that's only because i don't think she really wanted to switch roles but kind of fell into it when she lost her job). So, IMO, he's been kind of a wanker for a while. |
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Post by quiltz on Oct 3, 2014 22:12:55 GMT
And now they wonder how/why their daughter is being a brat. |
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Post by elinoah on Oct 3, 2014 22:44:56 GMT
Yeah. I always thought the Julia was a tool. She never treated Joel well and was even a pain when he did go back to work after she up and quit. But then when they brought in the other man, they kinda changed Joel's personality. He acted completely out of character. Plus. Who would choose that scruffy dude over Joel? I mean seriously. But he did kinda blow everything out of proportion. Everyone in that family is so dramatic. Except Adam and his wife.
Also, Max (the actor, I don't know his name) deserves an award for his acting. He is the best on that show.
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Post by Flowergirl on Oct 3, 2014 22:50:32 GMT
And now they wonder how/why their daughter is being a brat. They always let her get away with being bratty. Now it's even worse. |
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on Oct 3, 2014 23:40:20 GMT
I was watching the episode last night and I am going to bawl like a baby if they kill Zeke off. I say that with no spoilers from the show but they are kind of making it look that way.
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Post by justkat on Oct 4, 2014 0:09:47 GMT
And what is up with Sarah? I realize Amber's situation isn't ideal but she is an adult. I'd be devastated if my mother acted that way in those circumstances. I could understand if she was a teenager living at home etc., but she's a grown up.I'm sure she was shocked but I was expecting a different reaction. I love how Zeke reacted though.
I really hope they don't kill off Zeke. I'm thinking though it being the last season and he's about to become a great-grandfather that they'll want a happy ending.
I LOVE this show and will be sad when it's done.
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Post by simplylovely on Oct 4, 2014 1:06:54 GMT
I understand Sarah's reaction. She struggled as a single mother for a while, and to see her daughter will likely follow the same path must be devastating. And Amber is hardly an adult. She has made a number of immature impulsive decisions. So she she is hardly a stable adult ready for motherhood. If it was Haddie I'd think differently, but not Amber.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Oct 4, 2014 1:15:35 GMT
I felt so bad for Amber. I think Sarah was in shock. She doesn't want Amber to have life as hard as she had it. When she told Zeke, my heart melted, he is such a good man.
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Post by TankTop on Oct 4, 2014 1:21:31 GMT
See, I think Joel left so quickly because he had the hots for the work lady. Can't remember her name. He was well on his way to an affair with her. I sorta feel like he was projecting some of his own guilt onto Julia.
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 4, 2014 2:16:57 GMT
And now they wonder how/why their daughter is being a brat. She was always a brat. Even before they adopted Victor. She is seriously the most unlikable character I have ever seen on a tv show. |
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 4, 2014 2:19:16 GMT
Spoilers There will be a death on the show, they haven't said who, but someone will die before the series ends. They are clearly making it look like it will be Zeke, but I think it will be a shock like when they killed Garry on 30 Something. |
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Post by leeny on Oct 4, 2014 5:12:16 GMT
See, I think Joel left so quickly because he had the hots for the work lady. Can't remember her name. He was well on his way to an affair with her. I sorta feel like he was projecting some of his own guilt onto Julia. Wasn't her name Pete? I was sure Joel was having an affair and he was feeling guilty about it and projecting onto Julia. |
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Oct 4, 2014 17:23:12 GMT
Spoilers There will be a death on the show, they haven't said who, but someone will die before the series ends. They are clearly making it look like it will be Zeke, but I think it will be a shock like when they killed Garry on 30 Something. In response to Skellingon's spoiler - If the person who dies is Amber's soldier boyfriend from something PTSD related, I'm going to be devastated. I am hoping that they will show him having a good outcome to give hope to anyone in that situation. |
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 4, 2014 20:10:43 GMT
Spoilers There will be a death on the show, they haven't said who, but someone will die before the series ends. They are clearly making it look like it will be Zeke, but I think it will be a shock like when they killed Garry on 30 Something. In response to Skellingon's spoiler - If the person who dies is Amber's soldier boyfriend from something PTSD related, I'm going to be devastated. I am hoping that they will show him having a good outcome to give hope to anyone in that situation. I am pretty sure what I read said it would be "one of their own", so I don't think it will be Ryan. I sm oretty |
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 4, 2014 20:11:30 GMT
Did they show or mention Drew at all the last two episodes?
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Post by SabrinaM on Oct 4, 2014 20:21:31 GMT
And now they wonder how/why their daughter is being a brat. She was always a brat. Even before they adopted Victor. She is seriously the most unlikable character I have ever seen on a tv show. Lily on Modern Family is a close 2nd. |
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Oct 4, 2014 20:51:45 GMT
Yeah. I always thought the Julia was a tool. She never treated Joel well and was even a pain when he did go back to work after she up and quit. But then when they brought in the other man, they kinda changed Joel's personality. He acted completely out of character. Plus. Who would choose that scruffy dude over Joel? I mean seriously. But he did kinda blow everything out of proportion. Everyone in that family is so dramatic. Except Adam and his wife. Also, Max (the actor, I don't know his name) deserves an award for his acting. He is the best on that show. I thought Julia was fired (I could be wrong, but it seems like I remember she was forced out), and then she was blackballed and couldn't get a job anywhere else in town. ETA - I don't like Julia much, but I think Joel spent most of last season refusing to listen to reason, and acting like a jerk. |
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Oct 4, 2014 20:53:40 GMT
In response to Skellingon's spoiler - If the person who dies is Amber's soldier boyfriend from something PTSD related, I'm going to be devastated. I am hoping that they will show him having a good outcome to give hope to anyone in that situation. I am pretty sure what I read said it would be "one of their own", so I don't think it will be Ryan. Thanks, Skellinton!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:23:10 GMT
He did, but Julia spent all the seasons before acting like that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 23:22:34 GMT
I've never been a fan of Julia, before she was the stay at home parent she put everything on Joel and made him deal with her every whim. I agree with busypea. The kiss from the dad at the school was the final straw. I don't think any thing happened with Joel and his boss. This show is pretty straight forward. If there's an affair, it's shown within a couple of episodes. I could be wrong, but haven't seen this "surprise" kind of thing with any of the other characters where we know the real truth in the next season. I am annoyed with how Adam and Christina deal with Max. It's like they avoid him having a meltdown with EVERYTHING. Just be direct with one thing!!! The charter school seems so unrealistic. Yeah. I always thought the Julia was a tool. She never treated Joel well and was even a pain when he did go back to work after she up and quit. But then when they brought in the other man, they kinda changed Joel's personality. He acted completely out of character. Plus. Who would choose that scruffy dude over Joel? I mean seriously. But he did kinda blow everything out of proportion. Everyone in that family is so dramatic. Except Adam and his wife. Also, Max (the actor, I don't know his name) deserves an award for his acting. He is the best on that show. I think Max does an awesome job too! |
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Oct 4, 2014 23:55:46 GMT
And now they wonder how/why their daughter is being a brat. Ugh, that kid is the worst. |
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