casii
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Post by casii on Apr 1, 2019 0:39:02 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged. I hope you feel better having posted this. She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. I don't know. I'd say all things considered, thus far things have remained remarkably civil and polite.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 1, 2019 0:39:35 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged. I hope you feel better having posted this. She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. The only person, so far,—who has been negative towards other peas here is the OP. You need to read up....I’ll wait.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 1, 2019 0:40:52 GMT
She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. I don't know. I'd say all things considered, thus far things have remained remarkably civil and polite. You are absolutely correct! The only one who was condescending, mean spirited, and negative towards other peas was the OP.
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tduby1
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Post by tduby1 on Apr 1, 2019 0:43:27 GMT
I walked away, too. From the Republican Party, after 2016. I’m not sure I’ll ever return.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 1, 2019 0:49:13 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged. I hope you feel better having posted this. She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. I found the OP post pretty negative. I haven't been negative in response, nor have most people. I could see why if people have become more conservative as they age, would walk away from the Democratic Party. Its not anything earth shattering to me, that that might happen for that reason. Personally, I have seen more people walk away that have walked away from the Republican Party, but living where I do - I know proportionately more of them.
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Apr 1, 2019 1:40:14 GMT
I don't know why the right makes such a big deal about people walking away from the Democrats. I'm sure plenty of people have also left the GOP.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 1, 2019 2:05:27 GMT
I don't know why the right makes such a big deal about people walking away from the Democrats. I'm sure plenty of people have also left the GOP. And the premise as to why he “walked away” is exactly what trump/GOP is doing on a daily basis—creating discord, division, and decisiveness. As well as now the claims the conservatives/republicans are making as to what the think (or define the democrats) eg. That we all abort babies AFTER they are born and that we are all for murdering babies.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 1, 2019 2:19:51 GMT
I don't know why the right makes such a big deal about people walking away from the Democrats. I'm sure plenty of people have also left the GOP. And the premise as to why he “walked away” is exactly what trump/GOP is doing on a daily basis—creating discord, division, and decisiveness. As well as now the claims the conservatives/republicans are making as to what the think (or define the democrats) eg. That we all abort babies AFTER they are born and that we are all for murdering babies. Late term abortion being used by Republicans as a campaign strategy sickens me. And I'm prolife.
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 1, 2019 2:53:37 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged. I hope you feel better having posted this. She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. You can change your name all you want, but I’ve asked you before not to engage with me. Go find someone else to quote, respond to, whatever. This is the fourth time on this message board I have asked you to leave me alone. Yes, I am keeping track.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 1, 2019 2:54:37 GMT
And the premise as to why he “walked away” is exactly what trump/GOP is doing on a daily basis—creating discord, division, and decisiveness. As well as now the claims the conservatives/republicans are making as to what the think (or define the democrats) eg. That we all abort babies AFTER they are born and that we are all for murdering babies. Late term abortion being used by Republicans as a campaign strategy sickens me. And I'm prolife. Right!!! The claims they are making that they *say* Democrats support (when they don’t) pissed me off.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 1, 2019 2:57:05 GMT
Late term abortion being used by Republicans as a campaign strategy sickens me. And I'm prolife. Right!!! The claims they are making that they *say* Democrats support (when they don’t) pissed me off. In my mind, it is taking a terrible tragedy and exploiting it for political gain. I don't want either side using abortion as a football. It's gross.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 1, 2019 3:27:20 GMT
I walked away from the Republican party over the Clinton impeachment. And I’m still pretty moderate as Democrats go. But I can almost guarantee you, I’ll never vote for another Republican again. They’re way too willing to use dirty tricks and every divisive trope in the book to win. I’m long since done.
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 1, 2019 4:30:21 GMT
I left the Republican party well before Trump when I realized they manipulated me through my ignorance. As soon as I started asking questions and doing my own research (I'm talking researching real facts like government statistics, studies, census data, etc and NOT a news organization's interpretation) I realized I had been duped.
Why? Why do they manipulate?
When anyone reads the facts with their own eyes, you are only left with the why? Follow the money. I am not saying the Democratic party are perfect, but one side is notoriously dirty over and over and over again and has a prison record that's decades long to prove it.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 1, 2019 10:46:56 GMT
I left the Republican party well before Trump when I realized they manipulated me through my ignorance. As soon as I started asking questions and doing my own research (I'm talking researching real facts like government statistics, studies, census data, etc and NOT a news organization's interpretation) I realized I had been duped. Why? Why do they manipulate? When anyone reads the facts with their own eyes, you are only left with the why? Follow the money. I am not saying the Democratic party are perfect, but one side is notoriously dirty over and over and over again and has a prison record that's decades long to prove it. Yes!!!! It’s gotten so bad that I am Leary to trust any republican—I have not seen/heard if any who are trying (or willing to for that matter) to take the republicans back (or forward) out of their current crapola fest! It’s the massive lying and attacks and beating others down that did me in. Not one! It’s sad too because I never used to vote all one party either, I’ve voted for republican presidential candidates, reps, senators, and local, but nope—no more, I’ve definitely walked away from that. It seems to me, in our community that there are many more Democratic candidates running for offices than republicans now.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 1, 2019 11:29:26 GMT
I guess a better question for anybody walking away is “What are you walking toward?” I very rarely ever participate in any political thread. Truth be told, I usually don't even read them. But this was a rare exception for some unknown reason. And this time I will jump in to say, I wish there was *something* to walk towards. Neither party represents me. In fact, I find the two party system to be a detriment to our country. It reinforces the us-vs-them mentality that never seems to advance any real attempt at cooperation or compromise.
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The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 1, 2019 11:49:12 GMT
His story doesn’t ring true for me. That said, of course people have left the Democratic Party. Obviously, people have walked away from the Republicans too. This isn’t a new phenomenon. I bet a lot of people shift views over time.
When I watched quite a few of the walk away videos before the mid terms, I felt a lot of them seemed to be made up of people who left quite a long time ago or had been making a change for a long time, and that happens to many people, both ways over time.
The people who swing from far left to far right or solidly Trump supporters at least? They were the ones I really don’t trust. That isn’t rational. They obviously didn’t really understand what they believed in the first place. I’ve known people like this. They aren’t my most trusted people in my life.
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Post by carhoch on Apr 1, 2019 21:00:11 GMT
There is always people who change affiliation but the last election has proven to us that the #walkaway movement is mostly wishful thinking from the right.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 1, 2019 21:24:17 GMT
There is always people who change affiliation but the last election has proven to us that the #walkaway movement is mostly wishful thinking from the right. I am not sure that it even is actually a "movement". It got a little more attention because of Fox & trump.
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Apr 1, 2019 21:28:25 GMT
Your right to walk away. When I registered to vote some 40 years ago I declared myself an independent. Never changed it until this year when I declared myself a Democrat. After what I have seen of Republicans I doubt I will ever vote for one ever again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 15:41:09 GMT
81 Million votes for Biden.
Oh, and the GOP is just beginning the heart of their post-Trump @walkaway.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 20, 2020 15:55:03 GMT
Anyone who can condone the actions of their leader in the death of over 320,000 people, I say to them good bye! Enjoy your life with the knowledge of your continued consent.
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Post by anxiousmom on Dec 20, 2020 16:02:21 GMT
She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. I found the OP post pretty negative. I haven't been negative in response, nor have most people. I could see why if people have become more conservative as they age, would walk away from the Democratic Party. Its not anything earth shattering to me, that that might happen for that reason. Personally, I have seen more people walk away that have walked away from the Republican Party, but living where I do - I know proportionately more of them. I always said I was either the most liberal Republican or conservative Democrat you will ever know. As I have gotten older I find that hasn’t changed much-I hold some “liberal” and some “conservative” views. What I have found, however, is that there is no home for me-now, or probably ever, in the Republican Party. While I can find compromise with the democrat party I can not stand behind the hateful rhetoric of the republicans party. I can not and will not support that kind of ideology. Wouldn’t it be nice to find a sensible, middle of the spectrum third party that we could get behind? So many of us seem to fall into this category... that would be the only reason I would walk away from the democrat party. Shoot, this election? I would have vote for a tree stump if it had a D behind it.
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Post by femalebusiness on Dec 20, 2020 16:09:23 GMT
My, my, OP's post held up well didn't it? S/
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 20, 2020 16:20:28 GMT
I found the OP post pretty negative. I haven't been negative in response, nor have most people. I could see why if people have become more conservative as they age, would walk away from the Democratic Party. Its not anything earth shattering to me, that that might happen for that reason. Personally, I have seen more people walk away that have walked away from the Republican Party, but living where I do - I know proportionately more of them. I always said I was either the most liberal Republican or conservative Democrat you will ever know. As I have gotten older I find that hasn’t changed much-I hold some “liberal” and some “conservative” views. What I have found, however, is that there is no home for me-now, or probably ever, in the Republican Party. While I can find compromise with the democrat party I can not stand behind the hateful rhetoric of the republicans party. I can not and will not support that kind of ideology. Wouldn’t it be nice to find a sensible, middle of the spectrum third party that we could get behind? So many of us seem to fall into this category... that would be the only reason I would walk away from the democrat party. Shoot, this election? I would have vote for a tree stump if it had a D behind it. I'll sit with you I'm too conservative according to my liberal friends I'm a damn liberal and sheep to my conservative family members I'm "a liberal, but we love you" to my conservative leaning friends. I line right up with my moderate friends
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Post by circusjohnson on Dec 20, 2020 16:27:36 GMT
I walked away from the Republican Party. Actually I feel like Kasich does- the republican party left me when they decided character no longer mattered, that bullying and name calling is ok, ect... I began to realize that I like Obama Care, I want all people to have health care and I am actually interested in a plan that is single payer. Call me a socialist. Then I realized that I'm tired of policing woman's bodies and that republicans are only interested in making sure you birth that baby but not the circumstance that that child might be born into. Some states are trying to pass legislation where they want doctors to try and implant ectopic pregnancies, which they don't have the technology to do, because to remove the pregnancy is abortion. ( Ohio) They aren't interested in helping and supporting the family because you know your taxes might be raised, and all people on welfare are lazy so they don't deserve help. What if we truly supported women and families by providing health care, quality education, and food security. I suspect that abortions would go down because they would no longer be a necessity. I could go on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 17:50:09 GMT
My, my, OP's post held up well didn't it? S/
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Post by maryland on Dec 20, 2020 18:11:41 GMT
I am not sure what you want anyone to say? I absolutely know that people walked away from the Democratic Party, but I also know people walked away from the Republican Party. What are you hoping happens from this post? Do you think that video will change someone’s mind? Do you want someone to validate why you left? Do you want other people to share their stories? I was a Republican when I started voting, I voted for Gore the first time I voted Democrat. Would you like me to list the reasons I walked away from the Republicans and why I will never walk back? Really confused on what the reason of this post is. Yes, me! I have walked away from both parties! I go back and forth. I am more independent as I like to hear what both sides have to say. But at this point with the current Republicans, I don't like them and I will not vote for them. But for President, I have voted Democrat and Republican.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 21, 2020 4:13:19 GMT
I walked away from the Republican Party. Actually I feel like Kasich does- the republican party left me when they decided character no longer mattered, that bullying and name calling is ok, ect... I began to realize that I like Obama Care, I want all people to have health care and I am actually interested in a plan that is single payer. Call me a socialist. Then I realized that I'm tired of policing woman's bodies and that republicans are only interested in making sure you birth that baby but not the circumstance that that child might be born into. Some states are trying to pass legislation where they want doctors to try and implant ectopic pregnancies, which they don't have the technology to do, because to remove the pregnancy is abortion. ( Ohio) They aren't interested in helping and supporting the family because you know your taxes might be raised, and all people on welfare are lazy so they don't deserve help. What if we truly supported women and families by providing health care, quality education, and food security. I suspect that abortions would go down because they would no longer be a necessity. I could go on. I saw your post in another thread tonight and was scratching my head. “Isn’t she a conservative?” I said to myself. “Isn’t she a Republican?” Welcome to the dark side. Happy to have you here.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on Dec 21, 2020 5:39:32 GMT
I'm a lifelong Democrat but I think that a balance of power is very important. We need two strong parties dedicated to upholding the Constitution. I've been extremely disappointed with the current Republican party's fealty to Trump rather than to their constituents. Almost 325,000 have died due to gross mismanagement. I find the Lincoln Project and a variety of Never Trumpers very inspiring. Perhaps if you are displeased with the Democrats you can seek out these patriots.
Politically, I am hoping to be bored to tears by the new administration. No nepotism, just policy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 11:30:44 GMT
I always said I was either the most liberal Republican or conservative Democrat you will ever know. As I have gotten older I find that hasn’t changed much-I hold some “liberal” and some “conservative” views. What I have found, however, is that there is no home for me-now, or probably ever, in the Republican Party. While I can find compromise with the democrat party I can not stand behind the hateful rhetoric of the republicans party. I can not and will not support that kind of ideology. Wouldn’t it be nice to find a sensible, middle of the spectrum third party that we could get behind? So many of us seem to fall into this category... that would be the only reason I would walk away from the democrat party. Shoot, this election? I would have vote for a tree stump if it had a D behind it. I'll sit with you I'm too conservative according to my liberal friends I'm a damn liberal and sheep to my conservative family members I'm "a liberal, but we love you" to my conservative leaning friends. I line right up with my moderate friends I am right on the bench with you! I can bring some hummus. I bet our snacks will be awesome!!!
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