purplebee
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Post by purplebee on Apr 12, 2019 11:09:52 GMT
I would do one of two things, since her response was not the response of a good friend.
I would meet with her face to face and ask her if she has any idea of how her unwillingness to spend less than 30 minutes of her time to help you out makes you feel. Let her read this thread if possible.
Or I would avoid the confrontation and gradually let the friendship die and let her figure it out.
So sorry to hear about this situation, I would be sad and hurt too. Hugs....
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Post by trixiecat on Apr 12, 2019 11:14:17 GMT
It is little things like this that you will always keep in the back of your mind whether you want to or not. I have a friend who used to do little annoying things like show up an hour late for dinner one time with no phone call and a small apology that traffic was bad (she worked 10 minutes from my house and there is no traffic that would require her to be an hour late). Or you would make plans with her and then when you would go to confirm the day of, you would never hear from her. I could go on and on. I finally got to the point when she would say "let's get together" I would respond with "you have the busier schedule so YOU let me know". And I wasn't the only person she did this to. So after living this pattern for so long I just sort of backed off. Hopefully this is a one off situation in your friendship.
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Post by rainangel on Apr 12, 2019 11:50:13 GMT
I'm sad to say I had a similar experience with a close friend. That experience was the start of me noticing how little she did for others, but very happy to ask everyone favors. The whole friendship became very one-sided. I even had a long conversation with her about how the friendship was not working for me anymore. It had become very draining for me. Three weeks later she called me out of the blue asking me a massive favor, like our talk never happened. I guess there are just some people who take and take, and never give back. I hope this is not the case with your friend! But seriously, she couldn't pick up a creditcard? Weird....
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 12, 2019 11:51:34 GMT
Wow, that is really not the sign of a close friend. It would absolutely affect how I feel about the friendship.
Any one of the Peas would have done it for you!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 12, 2019 12:02:29 GMT
I see I'm not alone in saying that it is bizarre! Is she normally like this? If she is, then I would have to question the level of friendship. What I would do is before I left to drive out there, call her again and ask her and explain that you will be driving an hour to get it. Give her another chance to make it right. If not, then I would probably pass on the Saturday get together, saying you are "too busy" or just go and give her the cold shoulder. I'm passive aggressive that way:)
I would also ask why she can't walk a block to get the card for you. I would tell her that you would do the same for her.
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Post by peabrain on Apr 12, 2019 12:07:13 GMT
I don't have any words of wisdom except that I hope Saturday goes better. I'm glad that you are going.
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Post by Nanner on Apr 12, 2019 12:18:47 GMT
I can't believe she wouldn't do that for you! That would probably affect the friendship, if it was me.
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Post by bbkeef on Apr 12, 2019 12:22:43 GMT
Could she be annoyed that you assumed she’d do it? Even so, a good friend would still go get the credit card! I can't imagine letting a friend worry about her cc when I could easily help her out.
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Post by Really Red on Apr 12, 2019 12:29:07 GMT
I read all the responses because I am just floored. A block away?! I'd do anything at any time for someone for something that is a block away.
I know you said you aren't going to say something, but maybe somehow, someway she misunderstood your text? I read it and it is eminently understandable, but sometimes you read things quickly and misunderstand. I'm guessing her no was clear that it was "no, I won't do that" instead of "no, it's not a problem."
I think this will sit with you unless you bring it up with her. I'd say something like,
Hey Frieda. I drove over and got my credit card yesterday. Did I offend you in some way by asking you if you could take a few minutes out of your day to get the card, rather than me taking an hour?
It's a fair question for a good friend and you'll have your answer. She may say, "Michym! Of course I was going to get it for you. What are you talking about?" or "Michym! Don't you remember I was having my heartlessness removed today? I was in the hospital all day." And then you will know.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 12, 2019 12:33:05 GMT
As an alternative - why is your friend not allowed to say "No." ? Don't we read here all the time "no is a complete sentence?" She doesn't want to do it. She may have reasons you know nothing about. You flat out gave her an out, and she took it.
I dunno. No wonder we're all afraid to say "No". Just re-read this thread.
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Post by trixiecat on Apr 12, 2019 12:40:40 GMT
I am not sure what your relationship is like with her but could you say, "Hey, what was up with you not being able to pick up my credit card?"
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Post by smcast on Apr 12, 2019 13:02:56 GMT
As an alternative - why is your friend not allowed to say "No." ? Don't we read here all the time "no is a complete sentence?" She doesn't want to do it. She may have reasons you know nothing about. You flat out gave her an out, and she took it. I dunno. No wonder we're all afraid to say "No". Just re-read this thread. Because the small inconvenience to her friend would have been a huge favor to save her time, gas money, and stress. That's what friends do.
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Post by tmarschall on Apr 12, 2019 13:18:30 GMT
As an alternative - why is your friend not allowed to say "No." ? Don't we read here all the time "no is a complete sentence?" She doesn't want to do it. She may have reasons you know nothing about. You flat out gave her an out, and she took it. I dunno. No wonder we're all afraid to say "No". Just re-read this thread. I agree with this. But first let me say I'd do this in a heartbeat, even if it was inconvenient, bc I can't imagine having the opportunity to spare a friend that hassle. It also sounds like this friendship might be a little lopsided if you are often doing for her and it's not reciprocal. But as to the above, we often say, in the context of healthy boundaries and not overextending oneself, that it's okay to say no. She may have something going on you aren't aware of. Also, being single and no kids...it was said she hasn't had to help anyone but herself. But as someone that up until recently was single with no kids for a long time...you also don't have anyone to help YOU. Unless you have generous friends to support you, it also falls to you. Everything from housework to home repair. Bills, car maintenance, work, family gifts, errands, grocery shopping and more. I'm not whining about it...it's life. But we cant assume that because one is single with no dependents they have unlimited free time and energy. Now for all we know your friend might be an entitled selfish shrew, and this may not apply. I hope this was a misunderstanding and you can get past it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 12, 2019 13:26:50 GMT
As an alternative - why is your friend not allowed to say "No." ? Don't we read here all the time "no is a complete sentence?" She doesn't want to do it. She may have reasons you know nothing about. You flat out gave her an out, and she took it. I dunno. No wonder we're all afraid to say "No". Just re-read this thread. Because the small inconvenience to her friend would have been a huge favor to save her time, gas money, and stress. That's what friends do. Agreed. And because the OP has done many, many favors for this friend in the past. It’s only right to reciprocate when you can, and it sounded like the friend just didn’t WANT to. Even if you’re not one to keep score of things like that, it’s kind of a slap in the face to do and do and do for someone and then when you’re in a jam yourself all they have for you is, “Nah, that doesn’t work for me.” Sorry, but I don’t need leeches like that in my life. ETA: Plus, it wasn’t like she needed to drop everything right that second to go get it (like most of us here would probably do). Seriously, who doesn’t have 15 minutes to help out a friend over the course of several days?
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Post by trollie on Apr 12, 2019 13:28:52 GMT
You are going to have to update us after you see her on Saturday! Someone put a reminder on their spreadsheet! I won't say a word about it to her. I should, by I won't. I understand. I am just curious to what her demeanor will be and if she will bring it up. Please update.
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Post by mallie on Apr 12, 2019 13:32:49 GMT
I'm sad to say I had a similar experience with a close friend. That experience was the start of me noticing how little she did for others, but very happy to ask everyone favors. The whole friendship became very one-sided. I even had a long conversation with her about how the friendship was not working for me anymore. It had become very draining for me. Three weeks later she called me out of the blue asking me a massive favor, like our talk never happened. I guess there are just some people who take and take, and never give back. I hope this is not the case with your friend! But seriously, she couldn't pick up a creditcard? Weird.... Same thing happened to me! Noticed how one sided it was, had a conversation, next time she called (and I was so excited believing she was taking the convo to heart and calling me), it was to ask me a HUGE favor that would take up tons of my time and give her TONS of money. And there was no offer to give me a portion of it. When I asked for a portion of it, she said, "Wellllll....no." So, I "Welllllll...no'd" out of that friendship. Very sad as I thought she was my best friend for years. That experience has taught me, once again, the veracity of the saying, "When people show you who they are, BELIEVE THEM."
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Post by Anita on Apr 12, 2019 13:43:50 GMT
Man. I'm sorry. I'm going to make a six-hour round trip drive to take my best friend something she can use. She'd do the same for me. I can't fathom not walking a freaking block to help someone out. Sure, she has the right to say no, but considering your history of doing favors for her, I think I'd have to rethink the friendship.
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Post by moodyblue on Apr 12, 2019 14:00:31 GMT
I won't say a word about it to her. I should, by I won't. I understand. I am just curious to what her demeanor will be and if she will bring it up. Please update. If I were in this situation, and with a group of friends I’d probably find a way to mention how I left my credit card and then had to drive for an hour to retrieve it. Probably a little passive aggressive, but I’d be wondering how she’d react, or if she said anything.
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Post by miominmio on Apr 12, 2019 14:23:32 GMT
She's the only friend of mine who has never been married or had children. At times I wonder how that factors in to her ability to offer up a hand on her own, or in this instance respond to my request for help. Does that make any sense? She's never had to "help" any one but herself. NAH..that's BULLSHIT. I have never been married nor have kids and I help others all.the.time. She showed you her true self. Yeah. And when people do.....believe them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 14:37:53 GMT
From this point forward I would make sure any future get togethers were separate checks, separate cars, separate everything where she is concerned. Yes, it is a bit passive aggressive but if you do not want to completely cut off the friendship and said friend doesn't realize what she did was quite selfish them maybe and long running series of events will drive the point home.
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Post by scrapperal on Apr 12, 2019 15:00:55 GMT
Could she be annoyed that you assumed she’d do it? Since you told her you gave them her name, then you asked her to get it. For some people that would be enough for them to say no just on principle. This. Even though she still should have done it if she's a good friend (or any kind of friend). I wonder what her reaction would have been if you had said, ""I just realized I left my CC at XYZ. They have it in their safe. Is there any chance you could stop by there sometime in the next couple of days? Let me know so that I can give them your name. Thanks!"
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Post by pilcas on Apr 12, 2019 15:04:36 GMT
I appreciate the validation girls. She's the only friend of mine who has never been married or had children. At times I wonder how that factors in to her ability to offer up a hand on her own, or in this instance respond to my request for help. Does that make any sense? She's never had to "help" any one but herself. I'm really tired so if this doesn't make any sense I apo!ogize! Perhaps her selfishness is the reason she has never married.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 12, 2019 15:17:01 GMT
While “no” is a complete sentence, there are nuances in every relationship where you give more or less information. Based on the OP, I’m going to say the reply was less than friendly. This wasn’t described as a case where MichyM is always asking for something and the friend needs to put up boundaries. It looks to be quite the opposite. I’m not one to hold grudges, but I think this would always be in the back of my head about how lopsided this relationship is. And if MichyM is okay with that it’s all good. The fact she came to post I think does not bode well for this friendship.
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Post by MichyM on Apr 12, 2019 15:19:32 GMT
"Michym! Don't you remember I was having my heartlessness removed today? I was in the hospital all day." And then you will know. This made me giggle. Thank you ;D
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 12, 2019 15:21:20 GMT
It doesn’t seem likes she’s very appreciative of the times when things have been done for her. Her reaction to this it almost seems like she takes them for granted. That’d have me reevaluating if the friendship was one sided, I think.
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Post by disneypal on Apr 12, 2019 15:22:24 GMT
Meanwhile, I'm kinda/sorta blown away. Wow! That would catch me off guard too...I mean she is only a block from there but rather than help you out, she'd let you drive an hour out of your way (round trip) - Plus, if she was going to see you Saturday, it isn't like it would be a problem to get the card to you. How odd. I'd be really unhappy if I had a friend respond that way too.
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Post by MichyM on Apr 12, 2019 15:24:05 GMT
Could she be annoyed that you assumed she’d do it? Since you told her you gave them her name, then you asked her to get it. For some people that would be enough for them to say no just on principle. This. Even though she still should have done it if she's a good friend (or any kind of friend). I wonder what her reaction would have been if you had said, ""I just realized I left my CC at XYZ. They have it in their safe. Is there any chance you could stop by there sometime in the next couple of days? Let me know so that I can give them your name. Thanks!"
That would have been a much better way to have approached this!
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Post by katyscrap on Apr 12, 2019 15:28:53 GMT
Very odd and rude. It really wouldn't have put her out in any way and I don't think anyone would even hesitate helping out a friend by doing this, especially something as important as a credit card. I would have to mention it to her and let her explain her reasoning.
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Post by MichyM on Apr 12, 2019 15:29:01 GMT
Tiny update. The group outing is rescheduled for next Saturday. There’s a sporting event that we weren’t aware of that will impact our ability to get around. Friend said it’s probably fit the better, she’s swamped with work and may have to work tomorrow. So, I’d imagine that’s why she was so dismissive last night. And no, I didnt bring up the CC again.
Meanwhile I’m stuck at home waiting for a city electrical inspection (had some work done earlier this week). They don’t give you a time they’ll be by, but hopefully it’s early enough that I can get my CC and back home before rush hour this afternoon.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 12, 2019 15:34:37 GMT
I think it is pretty crappy.. If I asked my best friend or even 2nd or 3rd in line (so to speak) they would do that for me... I have ask a really good friend to help me with my 10 year old once and awhile and she never hesitates, ever. I ask her more for things than she does from me. If she asked me to do anything, I wouldn't hesitate.
My cousin, who I NEVER talk to, messaged me out of the blue to see if I would drive around an hour out of my way to check out a piece of equipment for his restaurant in Kansas. I didn't hesitate.. Thought it was kinda weird though.. LOL...ALTHOUGH he never followed through on that and I didn't go.. (but whatever, I would have if it panned out)
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