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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 21:18:01 GMT
oh yikes, yes, there are definitely some questionable practices there. Pushing to prescribe for profit is likely never going to lead to good choices. How awful AGAIN, if we're treading into that territory, then we could also question why millions of doctors push meds??? We've heard about the horrors of statins, etc., but yet doctors push them. You have to be very informed and proactive before accepting to add a prescription to your regime. Is it necessary? What if I try to eat better, move around more, etc. for 3 months and get tested again? These doctors are equally to blame and they KNOW that certain meds then lead to other disorders. MORE MEDS...........
My brother is a doctor and he has never accepted the free samples from pharmaceutical companies. He doesn't display any ads from them either. He feels that it's his job to choose which Rx is appropriate for each patient. Makes sense. Once you accept the samples, you're almost pushing that Rx to your patients. It's a bad situation!
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Post by trollie on Apr 24, 2019 21:21:25 GMT
Because pharmaceutical companies testified in the past that opioids were not addictive. Because the pharmaceutical companies were doing nothing to curb the abuse of these drugs, even when large amounts of opioids were being shipped to populations that couldn't possibly be consuming the amount of opioids that were being distributed in those areas. They knew there were issues and did nothing and made a fortune off the abuse of these drugs. I knew about the certain States where the pharmacies were given MUCH more than the # of people that lived there, so that's terrible and should have been a huge red flag!
I didn't know about pharmaceutical companies testifying that opioids were not addictive. Do you have any links or reference to that?? I've been on them for about 6 years now and I've never heard that. I've always been advised of how serious the meds were and what possible side effects were (addiction was one of them & has always been clearly written in the handout with the Rx). Thanks!
Here's a linkI'm sure there is video out there too. I have seen it on TV.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 21:21:30 GMT
I understand the part the company has played in the opioid issue but why are we not hearing about the doctor's responsibility in the epidemic? It's not like this epidemic happened overnight, so why are they a target of investigation for over prescribing. Is there any sort of national database that monitors a person's purchase of the drugs? I know in my state I have to be entered into a database search for my Sudafed purchases so why not a database for powerful drugs. I know from my personal life that the pharmacy has to check in with my Medicare provider before dispensing an opioid or any serious Rx (now that includes lots of anti-depressants too!!). I can't get the Rx unless it's 28 days, so they DO check.
Not sure if I took a new prescription to another pharmacy if they'd fill it automatically or if there is, indeed, some database to check when you last got that Rx filled. There should be a database! (Just like there should be an instant database when people purchase any firearm).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 21:22:19 GMT
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Post by nurseypants on Apr 24, 2019 21:54:48 GMT
Why should the family be vilified over their company’s products? Have they contributed towards abuse of their drugs by users? Because they fucking lied about the addictive properties of the drug.
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Post by dazeepetals on Apr 24, 2019 22:11:44 GMT
I understand the part the company has played in the opioid issue but why are we not hearing about the doctor's responsibility in the epidemic? It's not like this epidemic happened overnight, so why are they a target of investigation for over prescribing. Is there any sort of national database that monitors a person's purchase of the drugs? I know in my state I have to be entered into a database search for my Sudafed purchases so why not a database for powerful drugs. I know from my personal life that the pharmacy has to check in with my Medicare provider before dispensing an opioid or any serious Rx (now that includes lots of anti-depressants too!!). I can't get the Rx unless it's 28 days, so they DO check.
Not sure if I took a new prescription to another pharmacy if they'd fill it automatically or if there is, indeed, some database to check when you last got that Rx filled. There should be a database! (Just like there should be an instant database when people purchase any firearm).
Some states have an online program where Pharmacists can log into and see what a patient has received at any pharmacy. Also, many pharmacies are becoming stricter because of Medicare laws and guidelines that are making them the "watchers" more and held responsible for not monitoring usage.
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Post by verdepea on Apr 24, 2019 22:25:27 GMT
Why should the family be vilified over their company’s products? Have they contributed towards abuse of their drugs by users? Because they fucking lied about the addictive properties of the drug. They lied and doubled down on their sales strategy by promoting stronger more expensive doses. 40% of people in prison have an addiction problem. Now it's on the state and local government to handle. Without proper treatment, methadone and COUNSELING its never going to get better. Why should we have to pay for it and the sacklers pay no fucking taxes because they are so wealthy. Be sure to watch sacklergallery.com to see how indifferent these people are. Oh and now they want to settle with the 2000 lawsuits against them. Its pretty sick that they could settle and still be mega rich.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 15:35:17 GMT
I know from my personal life that the pharmacy has to check in with my Medicare provider before dispensing an opioid or any serious Rx (now that includes lots of anti-depressants too!!). I can't get the Rx unless it's 28 days, so they DO check.
Not sure if I took a new prescription to another pharmacy if they'd fill it automatically or if there is, indeed, some database to check when you last got that Rx filled. There should be a database! (Just like there should be an instant database when people purchase any firearm).
Some states have an online program where Pharmacists can log into and see what a patient has received at any pharmacy. Also, many pharmacies are becoming stricter because of Medicare laws and guidelines that are making them the "watchers" more and held responsible for not monitoring usage. Thanks. I DO know that they have to check with Medicare before dispensing each medication and it has to be timed just right. They're very careful and strict with the Medicare rules and they're up to date with all of them. Good to know that some states have that online program to see what a patient has received from other pharmacies (I doubt highly that it's in FL)...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 19:50:32 GMT
"The Sackler family has not previously said it wants to settle the litigation globally, said Joe Rice of Motley Rice, co-lead counsel in multi-district litigation consolidating about 1,500 opioid suits against Purdue and others in federal court in Cleveland. “It appears Ms White has now made public the willingness to settle,” he said in an email. “The issue is who are ‘they,’ what are they willing to settle, how, when, and for what consideration.” [Sackler atty] White acknowledged that settling more than 2,000 cases will not be easy. “You have municipalities and counties as well as state attorneys general involved in these matters,” she said. “And getting all of those plaintiffs in a global resolution is very difficult.” White does not represent all eight Sackler family members named in the opioids litigation. A different wing of the family has counsel from Paul Weiss, Rifkind Wharton & Garrison and Joseph Hage Aaronson. A representative from that branch told Reuters, however, that the entire family shares White’s view. Purdue and its billionaire owners, who have been named individually in more than 200 suits, have been singled out for public opprobrium, especially after a Massachusetts state-court judge unsealed a 277-page complaint by the attorney general Maura Healey in January. The Massachusetts complaint accused members of the Sackler family of orchestrating a marketing scheme aggressively to push sales of OxyContin, netting them billions of dollars at the expense of patients who became addicted to prescription painkillers." www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/24/sackler-family-opioid-lawsuit-settle
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Post by wordfish on Apr 29, 2019 20:06:00 GMT
Why should the family be vilified over their company’s products? Have they contributed towards abuse of their drugs by users? Because they fucking lied about the addictive properties of the drug. I feel this sums it up in the most elegantly succinct way possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 14:02:35 GMT
"Raymond and Mortimer, who lived into the 2000s, split control and ownership of the business equally, a structure that made it difficult to resolve disagreements. Other family members were active in the company, and up to 10 of them at a time were on the board of directors. The two sides selected their own nonfamily directors and set their pay under separate guidelines.
Board meetings were raucous, casual affairs attended by dozens of people, like a “family picnic with PowerPoint presentations,” said one former employee. The meetings, held monthly for many years, could go on for days. The longtime corporate counsel usually ran them.
Mortimer’s side of the family was known by staff and advisers as the “A Side,” for the share type they owned, and Raymond’s as the “B Side.” Relations between the brothers were strained for years. The brothers sat on opposite sides at board meetings and communicated through intermediaries, said people who attended.
At one meeting years ago, according to a person who was present, Mortimer tried to punch Raymond but, missing him, hit a company attorney in between."
Aww, dumplings, w/your billions to cushion the many blows of life.
My heart goes out. Really.
It's as tragic as the life of the single mom of a child whose medicines you make unaffordable.
Here's a disgusting comment:
Ms. Sackler criticized the family’s communications strategy and said she was through serving as the nation’s punching bag. She expressed concern about how the criticism of the Sacklers was affecting her family. “Lives of children are being destroyed,” she wrote.
Does she mean children of addicts which her family helped make into addicts by the way they marketed and profited BILLIONS on over-prescribing oxy?!??
Nope. She means her little rich darlings who now have to go through life w/the Sackler name. You don't want the burden of the damage done by previous Sackler execs?!?! But you still want the billions those previous Sackler execs made for your family, AmIRite, Jacqueline?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 15:20:00 GMT
"Court filings assert that members of the Sackler family were paid more than $4 billion by Purdue from 2007 to 2018. Much of the family's fortune is believed to be held outside the U.S., which could complicate lawsuits against the family over opioids. A court filing by the New York Attorney General's office on Friday contended that Sackler family members used Swiss and other hidden accounts to transfer $1 billion to themselves. The discovery of the transfers bolsters several states' claims that family members worked to shield its wealth because of the growing legal threats against them and Purdue." www.cbsnews.com/news/purdue-pharma-files-for-bankruptcy-today-2019-09-15/How nice to be able to throw around a few crumbs while you keep the bulk of the cake overseas away from the little people and the consequences of your immorality.
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 16, 2019 16:17:05 GMT
Right. I’m not in the least bit concerned they’re tearing each other apart. This family knew from the get-go that the opioids they were manufacturing were addictive but were 100% complicit in the burying of those details. From my perspective, every single one of them profited immensely from that lie so it’s only just that they be saddled with the reputation they have now. We’re all grown-ups. We all know there are consequences for the actions and decisions we make. Why should they be any different? And seriously, a privileged child not being accepted by a high school? Such baloney. Everyone knows all it takes is for that family to write a check for a new gym, a new lab, or whatever the HS wants/needs and the child is in. Since they can’t be bothered to acknowledge the deaths they caused, I doubt anyone could be bothered to acknowledge the supposed “difficulties” they’re undergoing. Indifference works both ways.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 13:01:53 GMT
"Among other things, the states cite deposition testimony stating that the Sackler family took $12 billion to $13 billion in cash out of Purdue Pharma. In light of those sums, the states contend, the Sacklers’ proposed $3 billion contribution to the settlement is not enough. “The Sacklers want the bankruptcy court to stop our lawsuits so they can keep the billions of dollars they pocketed from OxyContin and walk away without ever being held accountable. That’s unacceptable,’’ Maura Healey, the Massachusetts attorney general, said in a statement.... The Sackler family is trying to take advantage of the fact that they’ve extracted nearly all the money out of Purdue and pushed the carcass of the company into bankruptcy,’’ said North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein. “That’s unacceptable. Multibillionaires are the opposite of bankrupt.’’" www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-sackler-family-is-trying-to-shield-billions-in-oxycontin-profits-through-purdue-pharma-bankruptcy-states-say/2019/10/04/f0f3f67c-e6ad-11e9-a6e8-8759c5c7f608_story.html
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