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Post by Miss Ang on Apr 27, 2019 16:11:01 GMT
A student has been experiencing medical issues related to long term asthma. Student has recently began having seizures in the past 2 weeks. They are now mostly under control but has still had an occasional seizure. Can a public high school ban this student from attending prom for fear of what they believe 'might happen'? I would really like to have documentation so if you do know/find the answer, will you please link the source? Thank you. ________ Update: I haven’t read the comments since my last update Saturday, but I heard through the grapevine that y’all wanted an update. I am currently at an appt in the waiting room so I’ll have to be brief; her mom decided she didn't want to cause a big stink. The school allowed her to attend the pre-prom festivities since she was on the prom court. She won prom queen and her boyfriend won prom king. They allowed her to attend this part of the night but only if her mom would be there right beside her the whole time. They said she couldn’t stay for the dance though. I’m extremely disappointed in our school district but respect my friend’s decision to not push the issue. But if it were me, I sure as heck would have made sure they knew she most definitely WAS coming. Thank you for the opinions and advice!! And to answer one other question, she had not been back to school since the seizures began. And the absence was not the issue. They said the concern was what might happen.
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Post by lesley on Apr 27, 2019 16:17:10 GMT
Being in another country, I have no idea. But I am horrified by the very suggestion of excluding someone based on asthma. Or any other medical condition . Except measles...
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Post by sabrinae on Apr 27, 2019 16:17:23 GMT
No, they cannot and I would be challenging them. Make them explain what legal basis they are using to exclude the student. They’re discriminating on the basis of a disability— I would start by challenging them on the basis of ADA and IDEA as far as providing educational experiences. ADA would probably be the most successful challenge
ETA: there are nonprofits who work exclusively with making sure kids are getting appropriate accommodations and treatment if you can let me know where your at I’ll try to find one that you can contact
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Post by johnnysmom on Apr 27, 2019 16:18:49 GMT
I'm not a lawyer and have no source other than my opinion (which counts for nothing in the court of law) but that feels discriminatory.
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Post by trollie on Apr 27, 2019 16:19:02 GMT
God, I hope not. How horrible.
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Post by Peamac on Apr 27, 2019 16:29:01 GMT
Are they afraid that any flashing lights/disco balls/etc may trigger a seizure? That's the only thing I can think of. Or that they'll have to pay the school nurse to attend, in case something happens. Or that the school would be sued if the student has a seizure.
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Post by ntsf on Apr 27, 2019 16:33:55 GMT
student needs to get a 504 plan.. and the school must provide him/her with education.. location to be determined.. but in the least restrictive environment. check out wrightslaw.com for information.
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Post by miominmio on Apr 27, 2019 16:36:21 GMT
If the school is going to ban a student from attending, THEY are the ones who will have to provide proof that they have a legal basis for their decision.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 27, 2019 16:42:46 GMT
student needs to get a 504 plan.. and the school must provide him/her with education.. location to be determined.. but in the least restrictive environment. check out wrightslaw.com for information. This is for a Prom...not the child's education. That being said...I would ask for the nurse to attend.
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Post by Rhondito on Apr 27, 2019 17:14:04 GMT
Legalities aside, that's a really shitty thing to do.
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 27, 2019 17:21:56 GMT
I feel like the answer is no. That that would be a form of discrimination. (Is medical discrimination a thing?). If the prom is a private event hosted by a party unrelated to the school, this might be a more sticky situation.
And if they are going to ban kids for what “might happen” medically-they better just go ahead and cancel prom. Because some kid could have a brain aneurysm and drop dead in the middle of the dance. Someone could come down with the Norovirus and start violently vomiting and having explosive diarrhea (it is going around right now). Another kid could overdose on a drug and have seizures from that at the dance. Better be sure to ban the kid with known heart defects or kidney malformations. There could be a situation there. Also, any kid with a sports injury shouldn’t attend, as they could re-injur themselves on the dance floor and that would cause a scene too.
Utterly ridiculous.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 27, 2019 18:00:38 GMT
WTF???
That is the craziest thing I've heard in a while.
Seriously, is Target going to ban someone with seizures from shopping? Are the Vikings going to ban people from US Bank Stadium? It's ridiculous.
I'd be raising all kinds of hell if I were her parent.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 27, 2019 18:04:44 GMT
How long do you have until prom? Is the student on a 504, IEP or health plan?
If you have time, ask for a meeting and find a lawyer. Let the school know you will be bringing a lawyer or advocate to the meeting. Also you could contact the news and have them contact the school for comment.
With all that said, if there are strobe lights or things that could trigger a seizure, as a parent, I would not feel comfortable sending my child without me either chaperoning or being within 2 minutes of prom.
Perhaps offering to be there or very, very close should be the first step.
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Post by sabrinae on Apr 27, 2019 18:08:15 GMT
student needs to get a 504 plan.. and the school must provide him/her with education.. location to be determined.. but in the least restrictive environment. check out wrightslaw.com for information. This is for a Prom...not the child's education. That being said...I would ask for the nurse to attend. It’s a school event. They cannot legally bar a student from attending for a medical reason.
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Post by mustlovecats on Apr 27, 2019 18:11:19 GMT
I teach in a large public school district and our policy is absolutely you cannot bar a student from participating in school events for medical reasons (obviously sports are different because you need to pass a physical).
The students medical plan should be in place and cover this event. Perhaps if it is incomplete a parent could chaperone.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 27, 2019 18:12:51 GMT
student needs to get a 504 plan.. and the school must provide him/her with education.. location to be determined.. but in the least restrictive environment. check out wrightslaw.com for information. This is for a Prom...not the child's education. That being said...I would ask for the nurse to attend. A 504 can cover school events such as field trips, sports, extra-curriculars, even PTA events.
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Post by MichyM on Apr 27, 2019 19:05:18 GMT
The thought of this REALLY ticks me off. Please post an update when it’s all sorted out.
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Post by Miss Ang on Apr 27, 2019 19:11:08 GMT
Thank you very much for the advice (and opinions. ). This is a friends daughter and prom is tonight. The asthma has been ongoing but the seizures are new in the past few weeks. I am so upset for her! As if she hasn’t been through enough lately with her health, now the school tosses this into the mix. I’m angry and I am so disappointed.
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 27, 2019 19:11:53 GMT
Is she going to attend? I hope she is.
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Post by snugglebutter on Apr 27, 2019 19:19:28 GMT
Thank you very much for the advice (and opinions. ). This is a friends daughter and prom is tonight. The asthma has been ongoing but the seizures are new in the past few weeks. I am so upset for her! As if she hasn’t been through enough lately with her health, now the school tosses this into the mix. I’m angry and I am so disappointed. Prom is TONIGHT and this is still up in the air???
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Post by leftturnonly on Apr 27, 2019 19:23:30 GMT
Are they afraid that any flashing lights/disco balls/etc may trigger a seizure? That's the only thing I can think of. Or that they'll have to pay the school nurse to attend, in case something happens. Or that the school would be sued if the student has a seizure. That sounds more like a trigger for an epileptic seizure than for asthma. If they can ban a kid for asthma, they're opening Pandora's box.
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Post by busy on Apr 27, 2019 19:23:37 GMT
That’s disgusting. Given the timeframe, I’d have my student go as planned and I would be there (in the car in the parking lot) so if they hassled her at all, she could text me and I’d be right there. I’d have stern but polite words with whoever was trying to bar her from entering and be sure they knew if they banned her, it wasn’t going to end there.
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Post by ntsf on Apr 27, 2019 19:24:24 GMT
I would be following up after the event.. because what they are doing is illegal. if it is sponsored by the school and held on school grounds.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 27, 2019 19:37:23 GMT
I'm assuming that because the student has been having seizures, they are worried about the lights causing one during the dance? I have known teens who had seizures that couldn't attend dances because of that (I believe that was their/their parents decision).
This is a tough situation. One hand, I feel bad for the student that has to miss prom. But on the other hand, it could really disrupt everything if she has a seizure during the dance, and might put the school at risk if parents decide to sue or she gets hurt. At our homecoming dance this year a student had a medical event. My son wasn't there, but he was told that the students had to go into the cafeteria during the dance because of this, which disrupted the whole event.
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Post by Country Ham on Apr 27, 2019 19:38:58 GMT
the seizures are new in the past few weeks. I am so upset for her! As if she hasn’t been through enough lately with her health, now the school tosses this into the mix. I’m angry and I am so disappointed. This is something so new I can understand the school being concerned. Whether legal or not I don't know. As a parent I would be keeping my child home because I can't imagine the child knows all her triggers. Or at the very least I would expect to sign a waiver releasing school from responsibility and attend the prom as a chaperone. Child's safety trumps disappointment. Perhaps there is time to make sure the venue is clear of all triggers which would be ideal. That sounds more like a trigger for an epileptic seizure than for asthma. If they can ban a kid for asthma, they're opening Pandora's box. That's what they talking about, a child who just started having seizure within the last couple of weeks. Not a long standing disorder where the child knows her/his triggers and the school could of planned the prom around triggers. ETA I know an adult who has seizures just if there a lot of activity going on around here like a dance atmosphere.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 27, 2019 19:55:55 GMT
If prom is tonight, I would have tries to figure this out previously.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 21:57:18 GMT
Has she been out for two weeks and the school is requiring some type of medical release from the doctor allowing her to participate in school/activities again or are they just straight up saying no?
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Post by CeeScraps on Apr 27, 2019 22:07:56 GMT
My girlfriend’s daughter had emotional issues. She was allowed to go to prom. To help the school out the mom, my girlfriend, went to a restaurant very close to the prom location. My girlfriend had given every administrator her phone number so she could be there if needed. Her daughter also knew she was going to be close.
This prom location was 45 minutes away so my girlfriend knew that if there was a problem and she was home then things could go bad really quickly.
Nothing happened. Her daughter thanked her for being close just in case their was a problem.
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Post by Miss Ang on Apr 27, 2019 22:08:15 GMT
If prom is tonight, I would have tries to figure this out previously. They were informed this morning that she could not attend.
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Post by freebird on Apr 27, 2019 22:09:10 GMT
please keep us updated as to what happens.
I'd walk in the door with a letter of intent to sue if my child wasn't allowed to go due to medical reasons.
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