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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 3:21:37 GMT
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Post by roundtwo on May 12, 2019 3:36:15 GMT
I know there are influencers but I had no idea how huge the industry is - this stat from the article you linked just blew me away!
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Post by freecharlie on May 12, 2019 3:40:00 GMT
I am obviously not their target audience
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 12, 2019 3:43:30 GMT
I have been following this all day today when I have been home. He really screwed up but is a vile person.
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valincal
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Post by valincal on May 12, 2019 3:44:22 GMT
I actually watched the entire video posted by Tati last night and I don’t even follow her....it came up as a suggestion. I’m just fascinated by the continuous drama between all of these beauty influencers. This is our world and it’s nuts. 😄
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 3:44:51 GMT
I know there are influencers but I had no idea how huge the industry is - this stat from the article you linked just blew me away! Totally shocking! There is another YT'er who has a huge mansion with expensive cars that throws parties. The neighbors aren't happy and are trying to get him evicted through the home owners association. |
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Post by wendifful on May 12, 2019 3:49:33 GMT
It's not really just about the fact that he went with another company. Tati and her husband spent a lot of time helping him with contracts and promotion while he was starting out. He always refused to promote Tati's brand because his audience was underage and also privately said bad things about Sugarbear Hair (the rival company), but then promoted their product after he refused to promote hers. (Edited to add: Then, when she called him out on it, all he was concerned about was the optics of the situation and how it was hurting his reputation, not how he had hurt his friend.) Additionally, he did some very problematic things sexually, harassing straight men and saying it was okay because he's a celebrity. Here's her video, although it's 43 minutes long. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 4:28:50 GMT
It's not really just about the fact that he went with another company. Tati and her husband spent a lot of time helping him with contracts and promotion while he was starting out. He always refused to promote Tati's brand because his audience was underage and also privately said bad things about Sugarbear Hair (the rival company), but then promoted their product after he refused to promote hers. (Edited to add: Then, when she called him out on it, all he was concerned about was the optics of the situation and how it was hurting his reputation, not how he had hurt his friend.) Additionally, he did some very problematic things sexually, harassing straight men and saying it was okay because he's a celebrity. Here's her video, although it's 43 minutes long. Well that makes more sense. Like I said, not into that stuff and had no idea about the sexual harassment 👎🏻 |
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 12, 2019 5:03:32 GMT
He is a pig and Tati went into what he was saying at her birthday party about sex and it was vile. He is disgusting and does not get a pass because he is a celebrity and he is not trans so he should stop calling himself Sister James. I just hate him.
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Post by Nink on May 12, 2019 5:14:25 GMT
Personally, I think the whole “influencer” industry is ridiculous. How did that even become a thing? They’re getting paid to hock a bunch of shit that I doubt they really use outside that one video.
Think and make choices for yourselves people.
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 12, 2019 7:02:31 GMT
Personally, I think the whole “influencer” industry is ridiculous. How did that even become a thing? They’re getting paid to hock a bunch of shit that I doubt they really use outside that one video. Think and make choices for yourselves people. Yes! Agreed and they get sent thousands of dollars of shit that they have to dispose of. We only see some unboxing videos. The packaging is disgusting and sending a white girl 60 shades of foundation when 10 would do??? She has 50 bottles of shit to get rid of times how many foundation launches a year are there? Oodles? Fortunately other products don’t have the same amount in production. I.e. a brand may launch 5 shades of blush and then none for a long time. Foundation and concealer are particularly bad. I have bought into the mentality until I realized I can buy one really good foundation for the same price as 2 or 3 others. I am talking nuclear level coverage it’s so good. Yes, it was expensive. Ask me how my other new ones are doing in my collection that I just had to have when this one is so much better (on my skin, of course). |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 12, 2019 7:51:45 GMT
I have only recently learned that being an "influencer" is a thing. Meaning it's a social media presence in which one creates a large following, which in turns brings them revenue and gifts because they have recommended a product.
My only previous knowledge of "influencing" is from the popular scrapbookers and mixed media artists that have parlayed their popularity into a profitable or free gifts accepted entity.
I thought it was "say you like an item, product, etc... and the "influencer" receives a tiny financial or free gift kickback form the mentioned company". I had no idea that it was a widespread extremely profitable business/career/job.
I am not a follower, of influencers, per say. If I follow someone it's because I have seeked them out, because I like their products or their creative style, and I wish to stay informed of future products, tutorials, or ideas. I certainly don't go buy every single product because one person says to.
It's one thing, to ask for recommendations or advice on something, like we do here on this board.
It seems crazy to me, that so many people are "followers" and purchasing things because certain "influencers" say to. It's alarming that there is such a mass mentality.
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Post by luvnlifelady on May 12, 2019 9:52:52 GMT
I think influencers are here to stay with social media. I saw a recent news story on an influencer that works with Nordstroms. They pretty much carry what she tells them to. In the news piece, it indicated that influencers might be the ticket to saving brick-and-mortar stores.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on May 12, 2019 11:26:20 GMT
Think and make choices for yourselves people. It's alarming that there is such a mass mentality. "Bandwagon" mentality has been a thing since the dawn of time. It appears to be hard-wired into the human psyche. I don't see evidence that people are getting any better at individual critical thinking. If anything, people are getting dumber and more sheep-like. |
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Post by muggins on May 12, 2019 11:40:18 GMT
I think influencers are here to stay with social media. I saw a recent news story on an influencer that works with Nordstroms. They pretty much carry what she tells them to. In the news piece, it indicated that influencers might be the ticket to saving brick-and-mortar stores. That’s interesting as I read an article recently (can’t remember where though) that states the opposite. There seems to be no reliable data to suggest that influencers have a discernible impact on consumers’ purchases and collaborating with them can be a crapshoot since one false move (James Charles) can have a very negative effect on their popularity. However, I’ve also noticed influencers like Jeffrey Star🤮 are always involved in drama but his rabid fans stay loyal. Also most influencers provide links to products on the YouTube video info so people can click and buy directly, so I’m not sure how they will save brick and mortar stores. If anything, their reviews means people don’t have to go to the store to see the product and try it for themselves. They can just buy online. luvnlifelady just wanted to add that my post wasn’t meant to dismiss the info you read or your opinions. Just another viewpoint and the influence of these YouTubers has yet to be quantified:) |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on May 12, 2019 11:55:18 GMT
I think influencers are here to stay with social media. I saw a recent news story on an influencer that works with Nordstroms. They pretty much carry what she tells them to. In the news piece, it indicated that influencers might be the ticket to saving brick-and-mortar stores. I would be interested in reading that article, as well as knowing which 'influencer' they were referencing. Like muggins , I have my doubts that 'influencers' will be the ones to save retail stores. In the case of Nordstrom, since they started throwing in heavily with the influencers, I spend significantly less there than before, mainly due to the changes in what they carry as well as how they set up their stores. "Bandwagon" mentality has been a thing since the dawn of time. It appears to be hard-wired into the human psyche. I don't see evidence that people are getting any better at individual critical thinking. If anything, people are getting dumber and more sheep-like. It sure seems that way. I don't know if they are actually getting dumber, or if they always were and we just notice it more now due to social media. |
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Post by ddly on May 12, 2019 12:19:49 GMT
I have only recently learned that being an "influencer" is a thing. Meaning it's a social media presence in which one creates a large following, which in turns brings them revenue and gifts because they have recommended a product. My only previous knowledge of "influencing" is from the popular scrapbookers and mixed media artists that have parlayed their popularity into a profitable or free gifts accepted entity. I thought it was "say you like an item, product, etc... and the "influencer" receives a tiny financial or free gift kickback form the mentioned company". I had no idea that it was a widespread extremely profitable business/career/job. I am not a follower, of influencers, per say. If I follow someone it's because I have seeked them out, because I like their products or their creative style, and I wish to stay informed of future products, tutorials, or ideas. I certainly don't go buy every single product because one person says to. It's one thing, to ask for recommendations or advice on something, like we do here on this board. It seems crazy to me, that so many people are "followers" and purchasing things because certain "influencers" say to. It's alarming that there is such a mass mentality. I totally agree with this. People seem to have forgotten how to think for themselves. |
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Post by pierkiss on May 12, 2019 12:41:01 GMT
Do you think that at some point this whole influencer world will crumble at one point?
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I hope so. They bug the crap out of me.
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Post by phoenixcov on May 12, 2019 12:52:50 GMT
And my dear ole Mum worried about me being badly influenced by Cosmo magazine when it first came out. Some of the crap on social media scares the life out of me.  |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 12, 2019 13:01:35 GMT
I have only recently learned that being an "influencer" is a thing. Meaning it's a social media presence in which one creates a large following, which in turns brings them revenue and gifts because they have recommended a product. My only previous knowledge of "influencing" is from the popular scrapbookers and mixed media artists that have parlayed their popularity into a profitable or free gifts accepted entity. I thought it was "say you like an item, product, etc... and the "influencer" receives a tiny financial or free gift kickback form the mentioned company". I had no idea that it was a widespread extremely profitable business/career/job. I am not a follower, of influencers, per say. If I follow someone it's because I have seeked them out, because I like their products or their creative style, and I wish to stay informed of future products, tutorials, or ideas. I certainly don't go buy every single product because one person says to. It's one thing, to ask for recommendations or advice on something, like we do here on this board. It seems crazy to me, that so many people are "followers" and purchasing things because certain "influencers" say to. It's alarming that there is such a mass mentality. You make a good point about scrapbooking and influencers. I think that any of the magazines, 2peas gallery, garden girls, etc were all influencers. We see great pages or projects made with certain products and then we all want them. Beauty influencers use the same concepts. It is a type of marketing for the companies. I don't see anything wrong with it. Like anything else, each person has to make the decision what they want to buy and what they don't. I do think that some of the influencers are more genuine than others, though. We are all "influenced" to a degree. Whether that is here, when someone posts about a good product that they like and others say, "Hey! I like that, too!" and want to buy it. Same idea with "influencers". To say that people can't think for themselves or run out and buy something just because an influencer said to is a pretty lazy way to think about marketing, the impact of your "friends" on what you buy, and so on. I do watch beauty videos on YouTube, but don't watch either of these two. Tati had some drama a few months ago as well, and I watched a few of her videos then. She just seems really fake and immature. I am totally not surprised she would call someone out like this, or become involved with a person that is vile (as some have said about James Charles, who I have never heard of) in the first place. The channels I watch are much smaller and better, IMO. I don't have any clue how Tati got so many followers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 13:15:45 GMT
Personally, I think the whole “influencer” industry is ridiculous. How did that even become a thing? They’re getting paid to hock a bunch of shit that I doubt they really use outside that one video. Think and make choices for yourselves people. People are much more easily led than they believe themselves to be. www.bbc.com/future/story/20160323-why-are-people-so-incredibly-gullibleThey also think their brains are much more reliable than brains actually are. If you haven't watched 'Brain Games' here's a sample: |
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Post by pilcas on May 12, 2019 13:21:35 GMT
When I first started watching beauty videos on YouTube One of the first influencers I started watching was Tati. While she is pleasant to watch she is not all that nice either. She can be pretty mean in her own sugary way. I moved on to other you tubers who focused on the makeup and did not get involved with teen aged drama about what so and so said and why she did me wrong.I don’t know these people so I am not interested in their personal relationships.
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Post by scrappinmama on May 12, 2019 13:34:53 GMT
I followed this a little bit on Friday because I follow Tati on YouTube. I don't watch every makeup guru video because the amount of stuff they have is overwhelming. All of that junk will end up in a landfill. They and the makeup industry that supports them show no concern for their environmental footprint that they are leaving. I only watch videos when I'm looking for a new product and want to see reviews. Watch one of their purge videos if you want to see how much stuff they accumulate. It's mind boggling.
James claims that he has mostly youth following yet that doesn't stop him from posting provocative photos of him wearing a g string outfit. Sounds like he's only concerned about his youth followers when it's convenient for him. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by scrappinmama on May 12, 2019 13:37:45 GMT
When I first started watching beauty videos on YouTube One of the first influencers I started watching was Tati. While she is pleasant to watch she is not all that nice either. She can be pretty mean in her own sugary way. I moved on to other you tubers who focused on the makeup and did not get involved with teen aged drama about what so and so said and why she did me wrong.I don’t know these people so I am not interested in their personal relationships. This is exactly why I don't watch her very often anymore. Plus why is someone her age surrounding herself with 20 year old influencer drama? |
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Post by busy on May 12, 2019 13:40:20 GMT
It’s really cute how people think they are above being influenced and are totally independent thinkers.
Anyone want to count up the “peas cost me so much money” posts over the years?
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Post by heather on May 12, 2019 13:44:29 GMT
When I first started watching beauty videos on YouTube One of the first influencers I started watching was Tati. While she is pleasant to watch she is not all that nice either. She can be pretty mean in her own sugary way. I moved on to other you tubers who focused on the makeup and did not get involved with teen aged drama about what so and so said and why she did me wrong.I don’t know these people so I am not interested in their personal relationships. This is exactly why I don't watch her very often anymore. Plus why is someone her age surrounding herself with 20 year old influencer drama? I stopped watching her when I realized how close she was with Jeffree Star. How does he keep escaping the cancelled culture? |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 13:50:53 GMT
It’s really cute how people think they are above being influenced and are totally independent thinkers. Anyone want to count up the “peas cost me so much money” posts over the years? Well then I must be super duper cute because I dont buy anything mentioned here. I actually go to consumer reports and buy based on reviews, what fits into what I need, and what fits into my budget. I mean I dont own a dyson. Lol |
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Post by craftmepink on May 12, 2019 14:18:02 GMT
I don't think the whole influencer thing will crumble anytime soon. It seems like influencers replaced/are replacing magazines or other celebrities who influence what other people buy. Nowadays, it seems like people are more influenced by these beauty gurus because they share every aspect of their life. And I think people like that, think the person is their friend, so would buy what the influencer is recommending, etc...
It's just like how Oprah would recommend a book and everyone who valued Oprah's opinions would buy the same book.
I actually follow Tati and watched the video. I think it felt like she was hurt because she was like a mother to this influencer and he sold her out.
It's interesting to watch, but I don't really care for the drama. I'm more interested in the makeup reviews, etc...
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Post by mustlovecats on May 12, 2019 14:45:40 GMT
It’s really cute how people think they are above being influenced and are totally independent thinkers. Anyone want to count up the “peas cost me so much money” posts over the years? There’s an extent to which what’s even available to purchase in stores is impacted by influencers. Influencer maeketing is everywhere and has been since advertising began. So much of what we do is influenced, this is true - even our dietary trends are influenced. I don’t think anybody is immune. On the other hand I think we can become influencer aware, and become more capable of seeing where we are being sold to and use that knowledge to help make our own decisions. I love Instagram because I learn about things I’m interested in from people who are interested in the same things but it’s ripe for marketing. It’s good to learn to be discerning. In a world where everything is “LIFE CHANGING” I think it’s essential to have a marketing-wise mindset. |
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Post by Sorrel on May 12, 2019 15:33:08 GMT
I don’t follow anyone on YouTube. I think I have suspicious personality, but I’m not interested in buying anything hocked at me by an “influencer”.
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